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ParadoX_83
31-08-2007, 16:08
I just recently purchased THE INQUISITION: An illustrated guide to the secretive protectors of the Imperium and it is fantastic. I love the illustrations and background/history of some of the most famous inquisitors and their henchmen. I give it 9/10 :D Whats your feedback on the publication??

WARNING: The data entries in this book give away the fates, fortunes and destinies of the Eisenhorn and Ravenor novels.

Jomee
31-08-2007, 16:28
Here's a BL thread on it (which links to another thread, which in turn links to another). I won't be buying it, but I knew that from reading the sample pages.

http://forum.blacklibrary.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14095

ChrisAsmadi
31-08-2007, 16:49
WARNING: The data entries in this book give away the fates, fortunes and destinies of the Eisenhorn and Ravenor novels.

This intrests me much. Does it have anything besides what's described in the novels?

ParadoX_83
31-08-2007, 17:10
I havent read the Eisenhorn and Ravenor novels but it does touch on the inquisitors careers lightly and in some cases a bit more formal + their wargear history. It also introduces some well known henchmen and some tactics and some excellent illustrations. I reccomend you fork out the money for this... ( its pretty cheap if you order it from blpublishing.com

Its set out in a dictionary style format. eg: A .... B..... G = Grey Knights blah background blah.

ChrisAsmadi
31-08-2007, 17:16
Does it have a picture of Ravenor, either before he got burned half to death, or in his forcechair?

ParadoX_83
31-08-2007, 17:25
Yes it has 1 picture only and it is before he got "burnt". He standing on a imperial balcony whilst troops pass under this said balcony. but thats it. It may have more background on him through the short descriptions of his henchmen....!? He has an oriental likeness in the said book and is portrayed in informal dress, extremely light armoured. ( unsure if he wears light or heavy in combat )

Jomee
31-08-2007, 17:42
I havent read the Eisenhorn and Ravenor novels but it does touch on the inquisitors careers lightly and in some cases a bit more formal + their wargear history.

That's probably why you liked the book. Apparently it's 80% Eisenhorn/Ravenor/associates, and barely plays lip-service to the rest of the ][ in the 40k universe. For people that have read Eisenhorn/Ravenor (I can highly reccomend Eisenhorn, the omnibus is probably in my top 10 books of all time, and Ravenor is above average for the most part), it apparently contains nothing of interest aside from the illustrations, which are supposedly quite good and also interesting. I might pick it up on the cheap for the art, but I won't pay more than 7.50 for a good copy.

Hellebore
31-08-2007, 17:54
I'm not getting it, and I would have (I've bought every other background book).

However, as Jomee says, it's pretty much the exploits of Dan Abnett's Inquisition, with nothing on Torquemada Coteaz, Horst, Kryptmann, Czevak etc.

It is an illustrated guide to the characters and events of Abnett's novels.

As I have those novels, having an entire background book explaining it to me is a little redundant.

I'm disappointed at the wasted opportunity this book is. Dan Abnett is not the be all and end all of Inquisitors in 40k; they existed before he ever wrote novels about them (Jaq Draco was the first novelised Inquisitor for christ's sake).

To me this seems like cashing in on Abnett's popularity.

It certainly is NOT about the inquistion.

It should probably have been called Eisenhorn and Friends, so as not to mislead those who wish to buy it...

Hellebore

ParadoX_83
31-08-2007, 18:17
That's probably why you liked the book. Apparently it's 80% Eisenhorn/Ravenor/associates, and barely plays lip-service to the rest of the ][ in the 40k universe. For people that have read Eisenhorn/Ravenor (I can highly reccomend Eisenhorn, the omnibus is probably in my top 10 books of all time, and Ravenor is above average for the most part), it apparently contains nothing of interest aside from the illustrations, which are supposedly quite good and also interesting. I might pick it up on the cheap for the art, but I won't pay more than 7.50 for a good copy.

True in some respects but it also includes ( in some detail ) inquisitors and characters such as Celestine, Corteaz, Torquemada, the 2 affor-mentioned inquisitors. Glaw, pontius. Hand, Silas. Karamazov, Fyodor ( throne of judgement ). Also it includes Brother Captain Stern of the Grey Knights. Stern, Ephrael ( Adeptus Sororitas ), interrogators, numerous henchmen and Inquisitors that have strayed. + more

*Last names first

ThousandPlateaus
31-08-2007, 20:04
I was sorely disappointed by this book; it's really dull!

I was expecting something akin to the Liber Chaotica or the Loathsome Ratmen texts, rather than this banal summary of Abnett's work: I'm not exactly keen on Abnett's vision of the 40k multiverse anyway, so I am biased, but for decent fluff, it pales in comparison with the =][= rulebook.

Hlokk
31-08-2007, 20:58
Please don't buy this book, its crap.

I bought it under the impression it might give us a little more detail on the actual factions within the inquisition, plus the chamber militants. Instead, what we got was a half-assed encyclopedia which really only tries to tie in Abnetts work with the inqusitor rulebook and a few random quotes from army books.

Here was the BL's chance to tell us something interesting about, for example, the deathwatch. How does it assess candidates? How is it organised? Does it maintain a normal chapter size even though it recruits from other chapters? None of that is addressed, instead, the entry reads:


From "The inquisiton" by Kyme, Priestly and Stirling. Copyright GW 2007 Yadda yadda,
Deathwatch
Space marine chapter and chamber militant of the ordo xenos, specialising in the hunting and extermination of alien races. Deathwatch marines are drawn from across the adeptus astartes, serving is for varying terms until they return to their chapters to shave the expertese they have aquired. The deathwatch are organised into kill teams and armed with speailst xenos neutralising equipment. Their chapter livery is black armus but for the shoulderpad showing the colours of their native chapter

And thats it. No detail on what exactly constitutes a kill team, or what these specialist peices of kit are, nor how candidates are selected. Instead we get some vague language, the obvious stated and thats it. Its the same for a lot of entries, and some are one liners not even worth reading. Even the entries whicha re filled out are vague and generally just comment on what people are armed with and what they looked like. It honestly seems little to no effort has gone into this book at all.

And its blatantly not finished, where, for example, is the entry on Grimm (The squat from Ian Watsons "Inquisiton" trilogy)?

To be honest, its typical of the Black library and its background books. They are very wonkey in terms of content to be honest. examples:

Xenology: Tau ethereal depicted with feet, even though all tau models have hooves
Lieber Necris: Back 20 pages (describing each vampire bloodline) are more or less a straight copy and paste from the vampire counts armybook
Lothesome Ratmen: Actually said nothing new and glosses over a lot of ares it could have gone into more detail (ie: Species Clan Moulder create [seemingly limited to rat ogres and giant rats], diseases used by clan pestilens [of which 2 are listed].)

I'd give it 2 out of 10 (and only for the cool picture of Pontius Glaw)