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Green-is-best
20-09-2007, 05:55
If you could add any one thing to the 40k universe, what would it be?

Personally, I'd like to see a 3rd human faction, either a break away from the Imperium or a region of the galaxy that the Imperium never reached during the Great Crusade. This faction could have an active STC and technologies beyond the capacity of the Imperium. More interestingly, it could give a human perspective on the Imperium that isn't influenced by the Imperial Cult.

Obviously, GW would never add something even remotely like that, but its fun to imagine!

DantesInferno
20-09-2007, 06:01
If you could add any one thing to the 40k universe, what would it be?

Personally, I'd like to see a 3rd human faction, either a break away from the Imperium or a region of the galaxy that the Imperium never reached during the Great Crusade. This faction could have an active STC and technologies beyond the capacity of the Imperium. More interestingly, it could give a human perspective on the Imperium that isn't influenced by the Imperial Cult.

Obviously, GW would never add something even remotely like that, but its fun to imagine!

What do you mean, add? There are plenty of human planets outside the Imperium proper, according to the existing 40k background. They're what Macharius spent a lot of his time fighting, for instance. Do you mean "make an official army list"?

I'd make some chaos-worshipping alien races more prominent.

Green-is-best
20-09-2007, 06:07
Don't be cheeky! Of course that's what I meant! Why would I ask what people would like to see added as a two sentence blurb in the fluff of some irrelavent character?

Anyway, Chaos worshipping aliens would be pretty interesting too.

DantesInferno
20-09-2007, 06:15
Don't be cheeky! Of course that's what I meant! Why would I ask what people would like to see added as a two sentence blurb in the fluff of some irrelavent character?

....because you're in the 40k Background forum?

We live and die over two sentence blurbs here. :D

Terrordar
20-09-2007, 06:23
I'd have the Old Ones arrive in some form if I could add a major event.

If a less major event, I'd have the Word Bearers have a larger prescience in the south of the Galaxy. As in an actual prescience outside of the Maelstorm.

The pestilent 1
20-09-2007, 06:31
I'd have Unicron show the outsider what a planet sized deity can really do.
Yeah. That'd be funny.

Curufew
20-09-2007, 07:17
Space Ninjas !!!!

Ok cut that aside. I would like to see advance human civilizations. What the Imperium should be like if not for the Heresy

Tehkonrad
20-09-2007, 07:22
I'd like to see some kind of crab-alien things
or maybe as a lesser event the orks besiging terra...O.K thats not so lesser...

Shiakou
20-09-2007, 07:25
I'd have a race that runs purely on psychic energy. They'll be almost immaterial, each of them powerful enough to destroy an IG company. They'll exist almost totally in the Immaterium, have negligent effects on the material universe except where they create constructs to fight for them. They'll be extragalactic, arrive in the galaxy and promptly get their asses kicked by the Emperor/ChaosGods/EldarGods/GorknMork who don't want the new boys in town cramping their style. Said psychic race will then turn to creating material constructs (whether organic or not) to take over the material galaxy and/or get some of the current races to their side.

Think of a True Neutral race of Immaterium-bound Librarians, combined with Mechanicus/Shaper traits.

The nearest approximation would be the Maya from Tolkien or the Data Entity interfaces from Suzumiya Haruhi.

The pestilent 1
20-09-2007, 07:51
So you'd put the Enslavers in then?:eyebrows:

Shiakou
20-09-2007, 07:55
So you'd put the Enslavers in then?:eyebrows:

Probably, although much less powerful. Any race which could beat up the Old Ones, Eldar, and Necrontyr at the same time is just a bit on the wee side of "so damn overpowered it's ridiculous".

Maybe I can pass it off as "The Enslavers degenerated just like the Old Ones did".

Twisted Ferret
20-09-2007, 08:46
Any race which could beat up the Old Ones, Eldar, and Necrontyr at the same time is just a bit on the wee side of "so damn overpowered it's ridiculous".
You know, I never really thought of that before.

What the ****?

Why'd they leave, anyway, and where did they go? It makes everything feel so irrelevant now... even the mighty bogeymen C'tan and supreme incredible space frog Old Ones are as nothing before some random warp-jellyfish. :(

Lastie
20-09-2007, 09:14
I would add a less Humanocentric slant to the background fiction. Humanity shouldn't be responsible for three Chaos Gods, it shouldn't be the most important thing in those God's mind when there's an entire frikkin universe out there!! Humanity should be utterly insignificant in the grand schemes of entities far more powerful than we could conceive (a bit Lovecraftian, in other words).

If I could have a second wish, it would be to tone down the Emperor and the Primarchs; they're (mostly) Human, they shouldn't be able to pick up the galaxy and hit people with it. :p

Tarquinn
20-09-2007, 09:21
The next millenium.

Sureshot05
20-09-2007, 09:29
Enslavers would be a really interesting and different army to play. Imagine an army that has NO offensive weapons, but relies on taking over its opponents units to do damage. Very fragile, but would lead to very different and exciting games of 40K.

I would make a point of labelling one of the rules "Jones is acting strangely" though...

DantesInferno
20-09-2007, 09:42
I would add a less Humanocentric slant to the background fiction. Humanity shouldn't be responsible for three Chaos Gods, it shouldn't be the most important thing in those God's mind when there's an entire frikkin universe out there!! Humanity should be utterly insignificant in the grand schemes of entities far more powerful than we could conceive (a bit Lovecraftian, in other words).

We've had some debate recently over this, but I think it's pretty clear that humanity aren't solely responsible for the creation of the Chaos Gods any more.

Plus, the addition of the C'tan and the War in Heaven has left a few people wanting less super-powerful-ancient-entities-beyond-comprehension.


If I could have a second wish, it would be to tone down the Emperor and the Primarchs; they're (mostly) Human, they shouldn't be able to pick up the galaxy and hit people with it. :p

Again, it depends a bit on how you read the background. There are enough indications there that the Emperor and his Primarchs were not quite as powerful as some would have you believe.

Agamemnon2
20-09-2007, 11:28
Personally, I'd add rules for Demiurg landing parties to go together with their BFG fleet. Basically, tech-savvy opportunists nominally allied to Tau.

Vesica
20-09-2007, 12:54
I would add some balls to the Imperium so that it didnt just sit there and take abuse of every upstart alien,heretic and daemon.

Zapherion
20-09-2007, 14:33
i read about a race in one of the index astartes that Fulgrim and the Emperors childern wiped out way back before the HH. Unfortunatly i cant find it now so i cant tell you the name of the race. Basically, the race was heavily reliant on gene therapy and genetic modification on a level way past space marines. Each type of soldier was modified to fill a specific battle field role. So there was scouts who could run faster than speeders, combat divers who could breath underwater and sharpshooters who could see targets for miles around. They seemed so cool, but sadly, Fulgrim destroyed them all in one of his darker moments :( so, id probably add them to the 40k universe...though them all being dead would prove a problem for the Fluff writers

lord_blackfang
20-09-2007, 14:46
Umbra. An army of tiny black spheres. Perfect for beginners :p

Nargrakhan
20-09-2007, 14:56
Personally, I'd like to see a 3rd human faction, either a break away from the Imperium or a region of the galaxy that the Imperium never reached during the Great Crusade. This faction could have an active STC and technologies beyond the capacity of the Imperium. More interestingly, it could give a human perspective on the Imperium that isn't influenced by the Imperial Cult.

Obviously, GW would never add something even remotely like that, but its fun to imagine!

Actually, isn't this what the Tau are? Advanced technology. Full understanding of science. Modern usage and visualization of futuristic military application?

Chilltouch
20-09-2007, 16:16
The deletion of the infamous Ork psychic field.

Damien 1427
20-09-2007, 16:23
A "proper" robot army. The bastard lovechildren of Necrons, Tau and Tyranids (With the hive-mind mentality).

It'd be great to see the AdMech react to a whole race of Abominable Intelligences.

Mudir Nahya
20-09-2007, 16:31
Rogue Traders.

Why have these guys become utterly insignificant in the 40K universe? Surely human pirate space fleets would be noticed by someone? Unless they're all cloaked...

Hive Mind 33
20-09-2007, 17:02
[QUOTE=DantesInferno;1929610]We've had some debate recently over this, but I think it's pretty clear that humanity aren't solely responsible for the creation of the Chaos Gods any more.

I would love to know what debate you were apart of. It came down to posting evidence that they are human gods and you ignoring it. Just because it was created by humans does not mean they would not try and get a few different followers.

Quentin
20-09-2007, 17:07
Actually, isn't this what the Tau are? Advanced technology. Full understanding of science. Modern usage and visualization of futuristic military application?

Yeah the Tau and thier Gue'vesa allies fit that niche pretty well IMO.

Dalenator
20-09-2007, 18:40
Codex:Alien hunters
You could have puritan army full of specialist anti-alien warriors (Not Deathwatch)

Or radical full of techno-jokaero, Eldar Outcasts and other alien allies

Or a mix of both, whatever floats your boat.

Zapherion
20-09-2007, 19:03
isnt Codex Xenos on the horizon though?

Luthien
20-09-2007, 19:25
i read about a race in one of the index astartes that Fulgrim and the Emperors childern wiped out way back before the HH. Unfortunatly i cant find it now so i cant tell you the name of the race. Basically, the race was heavily reliant on gene therapy and genetic modification on a level way past space marines. Each type of soldier was modified to fill a specific battle field role. So there was scouts who could run faster than speeders, combat divers who could breath underwater and sharpshooters who could see targets for miles around. They seemed so cool, but sadly, Fulgrim destroyed them all in one of his darker moments :( so, id probably add them to the 40k universe...though them all being dead would prove a problem for the Fluff writers

The Laer i think you mean

Dalenator
20-09-2007, 20:40
isnt Codex Xenos on the horizon though?
There has been no confirmation of codes:Xenos at all. But I will wait however long it takes.


How about Codex:Gretchin "never outnumbered, always outgunned" :p

Arkley
20-09-2007, 20:55
What to add... The Machine God birth and kicking that piece of crap Dragon to kingdom come... Or just a device to wipe the C'Tan out :)...

Acolyte of Bli'l'ab
20-09-2007, 20:58
a truly "alien" race of xenos that arent another race of damn Bipeds/humanoids or even creatures that have legs.

Its the one thing missing from 40k miniature range and one of the things that really bugs the hell out of me. Everyone always wants god-damn bipeds..or MORE humans. I'd be happy with even a small mini-range (like second ed necron raiders). Whoever says theres too many races is WRONNGGG dammit, theres not ENOUGH variety, especially for weird-alien loving freaks like myself!

so get on it GW!! gimme a race of truly freaky nightmarish creatures! It gets tiring DIYing -everything- I seem to want grrrrrr :P

shin'keiro
20-09-2007, 22:47
A complete Harlequin Codex - Solitaire, High Avatar etc.

MadDogMike
20-09-2007, 23:03
Why'd they leave, anyway, and where did they go? It makes everything feel so irrelevant now... even the mighty bogeymen C'tan and supreme incredible space frog Old Ones are as nothing before some random warp-jellyfish. :(

I got the impression the only reason the Enslavers got so bad is they depend on psykers and can pop into the material world much easier than demons can, so when the Old Ones provided tons of psychic races with no major psychic defense it was pretty much an all-you-can-eat buffet for the Enslavers. After they overgrew their "food supply", their numbers dwindled back down to standard. I think Rogue Trader had their stats, so they're still around, just not nearly as populous since psykers are now a much rarer and better guarded resource.

As for what I'd add, I would take one thing that Xenology provided and add the Thyrrus. Very non-human in shape, and a NEAT fighting philosophy; they fight to create epic "art" battles. Somebody who fights just to create a cool battle scene seems like the perfect screwy addition to 40K :D.

Shiakou
20-09-2007, 23:25
Somebody who fights just to create a cool battle scene seems like the perfect screwy addition to 40K :D.

They'd get along very well with the Orks; they'll set a time and place of battle, slaughter each other, and then the survivors will go off to a bar and celebrate their mutual victory and recruit more fighters for the battle sequel the next day.

the varks
20-09-2007, 23:32
the imperium going outside the galaxy/the next millenium.


Marco

Ktotwf
21-09-2007, 00:05
I'd like to see the timeline advance, and I want an all Deathwatch army goddamnit.

Oh, and I want Imperial Guard armies to be good broken instead of bad broken. :skull:

El Presedente
21-09-2007, 00:16
A "proper" robot army. The bastard lovechildren of Necrons, Tau and Tyranids (With the hive-mind mentality).


Secconded, a self sufficient artificial intelligence is the only sci-fi genre that 40k is missing.

Although i'd really like to see more mercs, bounty hunters , hired guns, assassins, rogue traders, alen alies and more gray areas when it comes to heretics and aliens in the imperium, as in more, 'i have a good reason to use kroot against the tau with my guard army'.

Ktotwf
21-09-2007, 00:21
There definitely is room for a few more 40k armies...as long as they don't come in and be like "OMZORZ! TEH ARE TEH ULTIMATE THREATZORZ!"

Like, for example Rogue Trader Merc armies, or perhaps a really really freakishly alien Xenos race.

Acolyte of Bli'l'ab
21-09-2007, 00:38
There definitely is room for a few more 40k armies...as long as they don't come in and be like "OMZORZ! TEH ARE TEH ULTIMATE THREATZORZ!"

Agreed, three "major" threats are enough.


Like, for example Rogue Trader Merc armies, or perhaps a really really freakishly alien Xenos race.

Rogue Traders could be interesting but as stated im sick of bipeds. Theres room for tons of freaky alien Xeno races. If I can come up with 8-9 solid-original ones, I dont see why GW can come up with at least a couple.


A "proper" robot army. The bastard lovechildren of Necrons, Tau and Tyranids (With the hive-mind mentality).

It'd be great to see the AdMech react to a whole race of Abominable Intelligences.

Necrons are "proper" robots, they are completely mechanical. I think you just hate them so feel the need to use the term "proper" to put them down like many other haters. And besides they have things like Tomb Spyders, Scarabs which are self-sufficient AI machines anyway. What else could do they do ? The whole AI rebelling against its human-masters is way overdone and dull, and what kind of look could they give them ? a boring trendy sleek and shiny transformers image ? if they had to have another robotic race, they'd be better off being completely non-human. I certainly wouldnt mind somethine along the lines of The Daleks (yes im aware they have creatures inside them), but the idea could be taken and used to make something interesting, and if thats more what you were thinking then I agree.

RedStompa
21-09-2007, 01:03
The deletion of the infamous Ork psychic field.

the deletion of Chilltouch, and his tau noobs.


Probably give the imperium a little more strength to deal with chaos cults...

Chilltouch
21-09-2007, 06:06
Tau noobs..? For God's sake, didn't I already explain I don't play Tau and I just use this avatar 'cause it looks cool?

In that case, if all I am going to get flaming for wanting to make Orks more Orkier in my view, here's what else I want:

Logic and correct figures that would result in actual common sense. Actual armour and bombs that are far more effective than what our world has to offer. Armies that number over several million battling it out over worlds, rather than Armageddon, which barely even had a million on its own and is meant to be a massive resource drain. And also, more than a million Space Marines, at least a billion. The current figures are kinda idiotic, seeing as Space Marines come to the rescue everywhere, all the time.

Twisted Ferret
21-09-2007, 08:12
And also, more than a million Space Marines, at least a billion. The current figures are kinda idiotic, seeing as Space Marines come to the rescue everywhere, all the time.
They don't, really. It's just that everyone writes about it them so it seems that way. I do agree there need to be more, though, or they wouldn't be nearly so effective.

RexTalon
21-09-2007, 14:33
Just one thing?...

A technical writer and editor for codexs.

RedStompa
21-09-2007, 17:08
Logic and correct figures that would result in actual common sense. Actual armour and bombs that are far more effective than what our world has to offer. Armies that number over several million battling it out over worlds, rather than Armageddon, which barely even had a million on its own and is meant to be a massive resource drain. And also, more than a million Space Marines, at least a billion. The current figures are kinda idiotic, seeing as Space Marines come to the rescue everywhere, all the time.

Thats a flame? I agree with half the stuff there.... minus Billions of marinesis a bit much though.

so much for that tauloveing xeno worshiper!

Chilltouch
21-09-2007, 19:06
A billion marines?

That's only a thousand marines for each world, which I would say is just about right. It would mean they'd still be incredibly rare, it would allow for far more chapters. The current figures are just plain idiotically small.

RedStompa
21-09-2007, 19:22
Yes, I agree. Billions is far far too many though, considering that many planets wouldn't be worthy to be the home for a SM chapter...

Hostilius
21-09-2007, 19:34
Another alien race. Maybe something like the Tau, not too aggressive race like Orks but a proud race easily slighted by any perceived insult to their honor. Their policy would be survival for the fittest and they have no pity for the weak. They would place emphasize on close range combat (think Predator). They won't be as strong as Orks but stronger than an average human. Orks is all about brute strenght, Eldar close combat is about finesse, this new race would be about martial skill (like the Blood Dragons of fantasy).

On background setting they are clan based but loosely united under a great leader. They would be out to expand their various clan empires and sometimes come into dispute with other races and amongst themselves. Their location would be north of Ultima Segmentum. Maybe about 10,000 light years west of Gorkamorka.

Damien 1427
21-09-2007, 19:50
Necrons are "proper" robots, they are completely mechanical. I think you just hate them so feel the need to use the term "proper" to put them down like many other haters. And besides they have things like Tomb Spyders, Scarabs which are self-sufficient AI machines anyway. What else could do they do ? The whole AI rebelling against its human-masters is way overdone and dull, and what kind of look could they give them ? a boring trendy sleek and shiny transformers image ? if they had to have another robotic race, they'd be better off being completely non-human. I certainly wouldnt mind somethine along the lines of The Daleks (yes im aware they have creatures inside them), but the idea could be taken and used to make something interesting, and if thats more what you were thinking then I agree.

Completley mechanical, hive mentality, and a more interesting aesthetic. I don't consider the the Necrons robots, I consider them Space Undead. Mores the point, my projected ideas for a race of Berserkers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_spacecraft#Berserkers) could certaily aim for a non-humanoid aesthetic.

'sides, I loathe C'Plot Devices. If that somehow makes me a "hater", fair play, but I'd rather have a race of self-sufficent, self-replicating robots without the Lovecraft Lite.

Hostilius
21-09-2007, 20:14
I'd rather have a race of self-sufficent, self-replicating robots without the Lovecraft Lite.

Now, this gives me an idea! At the end of the Dark Age of Technology, Iron Men, humanity's advance battle droids turned against humanity. They were ultimately defeated by humankind but it is a pyhrric victory. The devastation caused by the war and the increasing warp storms occurrence heralds the Age of Strife.

Now let's say a bunch of this Iron Men escaped destruction and were trapped in some remote part of the galaxy where they prosper as humanity devolves into anarchy. Forward towards the end of 41st millennium, they built an AI based civilization, a civilization running on Dark Age of Technology technology. They too got a working STC.

Now, some Mechanicus explorator fleet stumbled into their worlds, maybe in between the northern gap of Ultima Segmentum and Segmentum Obscurus where there was stretch of stars where the Halo of astronomicon did not touch. The Mechanicus saw they got the STC and wish to have it. Also, they regard AI machines as technoheresy and attacked immediately. So they register hostile humans once again and war started all over again for them. And this time......mankind facing an enemy with weapons from Dark Age of Technology era and while they have lost much of that technology....

Acolyte of Bli'l'ab
21-09-2007, 20:22
Completley mechanical, hive mentality, and a more interesting aesthetic. I don't consider the the Necrons robots, I consider them Space Undead. Mores the point, my projected ideas for a race of Berserkers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_spacecraft#Berserkers) could certaily aim for a non-humanoid aesthetic.

'sides, I loathe C'Plot Devices. If that somehow makes me a "hater", fair play, but I'd rather have a race of self-sufficent, self-replicating robots without the Lovecraft Lite.

Well, each to their own.

I consider them Death-Robots, and the lovecraft elements suit me as I'm a fan of both Terminators and lovecraft..put the two together and you get the perfect machine-race for me.

I did always like the Berserker novels by Fred Saberhagen though :D I'd totally be up for something along the lines of those in 40k...

Rockerfella
21-09-2007, 20:22
For me, i'd like to have more info on what actually happened to Cegorach. I'd like to know what they meant by 'he ran off' and 'he's still playing tricks now'.

There's plenty of fluff regarding Khaine, and he's still able to represent himself in some fashion, but Cegorach? Nothing...

So, just some more fluff and or information about the laughing god would do for me.

Cheers!

Acolyte of Bli'l'ab
21-09-2007, 20:27
Cegorach went off to star in his own reality-tv show in another galaxy while smoking, drinking and hanging out with thin-blonde Swedish women every day.

Dont you read the fluff ?

Nargrakhan
21-09-2007, 20:33
I've got it - powered armor-less Sisters of Battle!

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6365/canonesspadarmurkp8.jpg

I mean EVERYONE loves the new Daemonette line. :angel:

Rockerfella
21-09-2007, 20:34
Cegorach went off to star in his own reality-tv show in another galaxy while smoking, drinking and hanging out with thin-blonde Swedish women every day.

Dont you read the fluff ?

The thin blonde sweedish woman thing, now that sounds like fun. The drinking too. But please, Cegorach DIDN'T smoke. How can one 'throw one's voice' when suffering from smokers cough? Please....;)

Ktotwf
21-09-2007, 20:37
Yes, I agree. Billions is far far too many though, considering that many planets wouldn't be worthy to be the home for a SM chapter...

I'd say about 10,000,000 is a nice compromise.

Acolyte of Bli'l'ab
21-09-2007, 20:43
The thin blonde sweedish woman thing, now that sounds like fun. The drinking too. But please, Cegorach DIDN'T smoke. How can one 'throw one's voice' when suffering from smokers cough? Please....;)

Pffft, he totally loved a bit of the green plant. Theres a reason he listens to reggae ya know, and it aint the C'tans fault this time!

Rockerfella
21-09-2007, 20:50
Pffft, he totally loved a bit of the green plant. Theres a reason he listens to reggae ya know, and it aint the C'tans fault this time!

Hah!!

And there I was thinking you were talking about 'malboro' or 'Rothmans' or any other standard ciggie.

Sure, I'm guessing he likes the odd toke every now and then. Having said that, maybe he knew just how ridiculous the act of consuming a reality altering illegal substance was, and so politely declined when offered. ;)

Yeah, I think thats what he did...... :angel:;)

Deathwing_Learn
21-09-2007, 21:09
I would be down with a new race like the laer. No humans, not stargod related. Just scrap the slaansh part from there race and your good.

Id also be down with have the AM get there over force. I know its another imperium thing but i think its got good potential for fluff. Maybe do a new rogue trader thing that has them along with other outcast items from different races. (rangers, Admech, kroot) Basically make a Dogs of War for 40K

Progena
21-09-2007, 21:29
Well, this isn't as much adding as removing, but I'd seriously like to see Ratlings get the same treatment as the Squats got. Hobbits or Halflings are the steriotypical LotR race. Sure, Tolkien laid the foundation for all Fantasy universes out there, but to me the idea of GW using Halflings/Ratlings in their worlds is like Blizzard copying Warhammer Orcs for Warcraft and claiming them for themselves (thus leading everyone and their grand-mother to thinking GW copied it of Warcraft). Whoever's most widely recognised get the public credit for an idea.

Seeing as Ratlings are supposedly a stable mutation of the human species, how can one defend Ratlings from an evolutionary point of view? What kind of hellish planet would cause humans to shrink and evolve big hairy feet and natural aptitude for running away?

Tolkien also invented Orcs, but WHFB Orcs and WH 40k Orks are fundamentaly different from LotR Orcs. The only thing that set WH Halflings and WH 40k Ratlings apart from their LotR counterparts are their dishonest natures and skill with ballistic weaponry.

Someone should capture some 'Stealers and set them lose on the Ratling planets, wherever they are.

Also on a not so completly different level, I'd like to see the Ordo Xenos and the Deathwatch (with assorted Space Marine Chapters and Imperial Guard Armies) go Xenocide on an Eldar Craftworld. Biel-Tan for example, they just don't seem to understand that their race is doomed and that they should all just lay down and die. The Inquisition should put the fear of the Emperor into them.

Yes, midgets with enormous feet and pointy-eared freaks of nature creep me out.

Adra
21-09-2007, 21:39
im pretty sure the halflings planet got ganked by Abbadon and then pwned by nids...and if not...why not....maybe have them exploded and eaten as well...just cos i hate Bilbo :D

Progena
21-09-2007, 21:47
I think the Chaos forces were beaten of by some Commisar who was there to recruit Snipers... damn shame...

And I hate them all and I can't even name any... well, I can name one, but I won't put that name in my mouth... why couldn't he just have given the ******* ring to the bad guy? Then he could've offed all the feet-freaks and pointy-ears before they got away.

Hellbore
22-09-2007, 02:16
i read about a race in one of the index astartes that Fulgrim and the Emperors childern wiped out way back before the HH. Unfortunatly i cant find it now so i cant tell you the name of the race. Basically, the race was heavily reliant on gene therapy and genetic modification on a level way past space marines. Each type of soldier was modified to fill a specific battle field role. So there was scouts who could run faster than speeders, combat divers who could breath underwater and sharpshooters who could see targets for miles around. They seemed so cool, but sadly, Fulgrim destroyed them all in one of his darker moments :( so, id probably add them to the 40k universe...though them all being dead would prove a problem for the Fluff writers

that would be the Laer

i would add more background, connect a few dots add more dots, kid of thing

Biomass Denial
22-09-2007, 09:05
Ad mech for starters, and the continuation of some wars that dont involve the imperium. Such as being told the outcome of the tyranid and orksih wars.