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Crube
25-09-2007, 09:42
Just a though, given the lack of support, plus from Sabbad, the ongoing lack of support, could FW take on the mantle of Specialist Games?

They have released their own game, Aeronautica Imperialis, and already produce some minis for Epic.

To me, AI is to all intents and purposes, a Specialist Game. A more indepth and advanced set of rules, requiring very few models and smaller investment form the player in terms of cash.

COud FW release BB teams, or Necromunda Gangs? A wider range of Epic or Warmaster models?

Of course, the question could be, Do they want to?

sigur
25-09-2007, 10:12
I think that FW don't want to find themselves in the position of being under real preassure from all sides to make miniatures for all the Specialist games. Apart from that, the distance between GW and SG would be even greater so they could be stopping all support for SG. I think it's pretty good as it is. SG games has their own little place. If they were supported better, things could work out quite nicely, getting support by GW and, occationally, FW.

orangesm
25-09-2007, 11:58
I think that FW could 'take over' the task of producing new mininatures for Specialist Games, but I do not want them to have to handle the entire range. I think it would great if FW began to fill the holes left by GW in their Specialist Games and slowly expanded those that are filled.

This would mean that FW is not going to make all new gangs for Necromunda, but might make a few 'gang' packs that have a particular body type and weapons sprue. It would mean FW would try to create more Epic vehicles (and maybe infantry!) to fill the massive holes left by GW.

But these would be slow and limited in coming in my opinion. It would not mean a new SG model every month.

CaptainSenioris
25-09-2007, 12:17
They could but like the other's have said I hope they don't. The good thing about FW is that we don't expect anything from them, they merely surprise us with new gorgeous models every now and then, which is great as it feels like christmas time when we finally see them, in an 'oooh pretty' kind of way. With GW we have expectations, we expect them to release 'such and such' at 'such and such' a time, FW has no pressure, no deadline, nothing and thats the beauty of them and why they always seem such nice laid back chaps.

My point being if they took on the SG mantle we would have expectations of them and I'm not sure they can cope, or that they have the rules writing staff as pasionate about BB and Necromunda etc as they are about cool planes, Tanks and Giant monsters.

precinctomega
25-09-2007, 13:37
Excatly. They could, but they shouldn't and they won't.

R.

scarletsquig
25-09-2007, 14:26
I'm happy enough with them handling epic.. them doing an entire tau army was neat... here's hoping they feel the same about chaos and tyranids at some point ;)

I don't think the other specialist games would work too well in resin, and for the most part, they have complete model ranges.

The main exception being inqusitor. Highly detailed 54mm models are the perfect thing for resin.

Bob5000
25-09-2007, 19:39
Of course , FW do some BFG as well

gunmonkey
25-09-2007, 21:21
Well since the thread above this (and now below after this post....this one http://warseer.com/forums/sg-fw-games-general-discussion/104553-games-day-revelations.html) says that GW are going to stop producing minis for the SG, nows as good a time as ever. Because any minatures, even for a system you dont play but with a promise for yours soon, is better than none at all.

Plus the SG lends well to a small run of high detailed minatures which the DKOK have proven to be well within FW skills.

Agamemnon2
26-09-2007, 08:55
I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that GW or FW will never release another SG miniature ever again.

Ever.

precinctomega
26-09-2007, 09:10
I think that FW will keep producing EPIC models, because they have a place in the AI range. I think that the might also produce some WM models.

But I think that NEC, BB, BOFA and INQ are doomed (not MORD, obviously, because it can just happily poach from the WFB range). And, of course, BOFA was doomed from the start.

R.

Bulldozer
26-09-2007, 11:18
Just a though, given the lack of support, plus from Sabbad, the ongoing lack of support, could FW take on the mantle of Specialist Games?I would find it more appropriate for ForgeWorld to take over some but not all of the Specialist Games. ForgeWorld already has a tremendous output for such a small company and having to produce models for up to ten different game systems would be unfeasible.

As ForgeWorld has produced a good range of miniatures for Battlefleet Gothic, they are in a good position to slowly expand their range and even recast some of the current models in resin. I could also see ForgeWorld producing some exceptional models for Necromunda and again even recast some of the current models. Although ForgeWorld has produced and to some extent still produce models for Epic 40,000, taking over this particular Specialist Game would require a tremendous commitment. Therefore I can only see ForgeWorld taking on two of the Specialist Games, if they take on any at all.

Chaos and Evil
26-09-2007, 11:33
Epic 40,000 doesn't exist, and hasn't existed for four years.

FW make models for Epic. :)

Bulldozer
26-09-2007, 11:42
FW make models for Epic. :)My apologies, it will not happen again. ;)

Darkson
26-09-2007, 21:38
or that they have the rules writing staff as pasionate about BB and Necromunda etc as they are about cool planes, Tanks and Giant monsters.

On this point, the majority of the SG rules haven't been written by GW staff for a few years now, so FW could just tap into the SG fanbase to carry on doing things as they are now, rules-wise.

Crube
26-09-2007, 21:44
Epic 40,000 doesn't exist, and hasn't existed for four years.

FW make models for Epic. :)


Epic Armageddon to be precise...

Steve54
27-09-2007, 06:32
On this point, the majority of the SG rules haven't been written by GW staff for a few years now, so FW could just tap into the SG fanbase to carry on doing things as they are now, rules-wise.


That would be ideal but FW have shown no desire to cooperate with the various epic army and rules champions and have, on several occasions, actually lied to them.

I think the best we can hope for is continued AI crossovers

Chaos and Evil
27-09-2007, 09:39
Epic Armageddon to be precise...

Epic Armageddon is the name for the first rulebook.

Epic Swordwind is the name for the second rulebook.

The game is called Epic. :p

(Read Jervis' intro in the Armageddon book)

Agamemnon2
27-09-2007, 10:39
That would be ideal but FW have shown no desire to cooperate with the various epic army and rules champions and have, on several occasions, actually lied to them.

It just goes to show that they really are a part of GW. FW's vastly superior minis sometimes blur that distinction.

What did they lie about, specifically?

Crube
27-09-2007, 14:35
I always thought the Game was the first book - Epic Armageddon, and Swordwind was the expansion - it does say you need a copy of Epic Armageddon to use Swordwind...

ah well, minor details :D

Steve54
27-09-2007, 19:52
The Tau, Tyranid and Chaos army champions (in charge of formulating the respective army rules) all, with introductions from Jervis, contacted Forgeworld to enquire about future model plans so as to incorporate them into the development of the lists. They were told plans, or lack thereof, which were either lies or indicate that FW plans no more than a couple of months ahead.

Chaos and Evil
27-09-2007, 20:03
indicate that FW plans no more than a couple of months ahead.
This, in many cases, is more true than you realise.

75hastings69
27-09-2007, 20:42
I'd love to see FW have a go at minis for BB.