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greendan
14-10-2007, 02:08
Hi.
A much pained over Empire list for you to give advice on, which is as follows...


LORDS:
ARCH LECTOR OF SIGMAR
+sword of battle, shield & heavy armour
warhorse

HEROES:
CAPTAIN
+hand weapon & armour of meteoric iron
battle standard bearer

BATTLE WIZARD
+level 2
doom fire ring

BATTLE WIZARD
+level 2
rod of power

CORE:
KNIGHTS (5)
+hand weapon, lance, shield & full plate armour
standard bearer & musician

KNIGHTS (5)
+hand weapon, lance, shield & full plate armour
standard bearer & musician

SWORDSMEN (20)
+sword, shield & light armour
standard bearer & musician

HANDGUNNER DETACHMENT (5)
+handgun & hand weapon

HALBERDIER DETACHMENT (5)
+halberd, hand weapon & light armour

SWORDSMEN (20)
+sword, shield & light armour
standard bearer & musician

HANDGUNNER DETACHMENT (5)
+handgun & hand weapon

HALBERDIER DETACHMENT (5)
+halberd, hand weapon & light armour

FLAGELLANTS (20)
+flails

SPECIAL:
GREAT SWORDS (19)
+great sword, full plate armour
standard bearer & musician

HANDGUNNER DETACHMENT (5)
+handgun & hand weapon

HALBERDIER DETACHMENT (5)
+halberd, hand weapon & light armour

PISTOLIERS (6)
+brace of pistols & light armour
musician

GREAT CANNON

RARE:
HELBLASTER VOLLEY GUN


Okay...i like the character set up on the list (i would like the speculum for the arch lector but cant afford it :( ).

Are the detachments too small? honestly id like them to be a bit larger so they'll be much more effective, or are they fine as it is?? im thinking people would just whittle them away easily.

My flagellants will hold a flank and the volley gun will take the other.
3 block units for a strong centre.

2 small units of knights for flanking or combined charges. (is one big unit better?) one unit accompanied by the arch lector which will give them hatred.
Pistoliers for baiting and harassment.

And the cannon because its a cannon.

So..could i get away with small units of detachments??
could i drop the unit sizes of the flagellants and great swords and would they still be effective?

:chrome:

EvilIncarnate
14-10-2007, 06:31
Solid list good job.

I would take out the standards from the knights. They are shock troops all you are doing is giving the enemy an extra 100vp for breaking them.

Detachments

-each of your units have a handgun detachment, are you planning just sitting back with these units or is the battle line going to move forward? i would just make them archers then you can still move and shoot with them or just make them more halberdiers.

-Yes I think your detachments are too small I think a good number is 8, 2 ranks of 4. This means that they can take a kill or two and still have unit str 5 for flanking. And having a rank of 4 makes your battle line a little smaller.