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The Orange
18-10-2007, 01:53
Okay, maybe the Apocalypse threads are getting a bit old, but I'm genially curious. Given the general open'nes (:wtf: is that even a word) of Apocalypse, is their anything that suddenly looks a whole lot better then before in your army? Or have you come up with some crazy ideas and/or combos that just wouldn't have worked in regular 40k games?

I'll start off.
1st (finally) I can potentially field Kroot Merc.'s with my Tau army (I was always a bit jealous that other armies could take them but not my Tau the progenitors of the kroot :mad:).
2nd Unrestricted Farsight army :evilgrin:.
3rd,Ethereals (even Aun'Va) can really shine now that they have huge armies that can call upon thier LOS-required LD boost.

Mine aren't really that outrageous so what crazy ideas would you like to try?

boreas
18-10-2007, 02:02
-Definitely more than one Assassin.
-Inducted Imperial guards (I play SoB and usually fill out all my points with SoB units).
-My brand new Warhound :D
-More than one Orbital Strike
-3 Penitent Engines, 6 Deathcult assassins, 6 Arco-Flagellant AND 10 Repentia in the same army. Along with 3-5 shotgun wielding priests. Yeah, they usually suck, but what a sight that will be!!!.

You know, all those OMG they're coolz!!!1!11!! WOOT units that you end up never playing because you need the points for that extra seraphim unit or that extra exorcist!

Phil

CommisarMolotov
18-10-2007, 02:06
Or have you come up with some crazy ideas and/or combos that just wouldn't have worked in regular 40k games?


You know the Culexus assassin? He's armed with a groovy weapon that gets more shots if he's near a psyker...

You know the "Last Chancers?" You can have up to 20 of 'em in an Imperial Guard army. Well, you can upgrade each and every one of 'em to be a psyker.

That Culexus can end up with something like a twenty-two shot weapon. Yeowtch! And that multiple-assassin force that's on the GW website...

Four or five Culexus dishing out twenty-two shots a turn is certainly a whole bucketfull of dice, eh?

The Orange
18-10-2007, 02:20
You know the Culexus assassin? He's armed with a groovy weapon that gets more shots if he's near a psyker...


Friendly psykers shoulden't count :eyebrows:. Still great idea :evilgrin:.

More ideas:

The Tyranid endless swarm rule (or whatever it was for the gaunts) would be absolutely horrific in Apocalypse. Baneblade takes out a huge unit of gaunts, and guess what, their back again next turn, muhahaha.

Probably lame but what the heck, Ethereal Council all with honor blades and shield drones. Would be hell of expensive, but hey, I'd finally have an okay Tau hth unit.

Gensuke626
18-10-2007, 03:03
Ive considered buying a pair of buckets to proxy in a Warlord Titan...

Lord Merlin
18-10-2007, 03:08
A group of inquisitors working in concert and maybe an eldar seer council.

Feor
18-10-2007, 03:37
First thing I'm think considering is the Land Raider Helios. There's just something about a Land Raider with Ordinance that speaks to me. :)

Adept
18-10-2007, 03:38
Ive considered buying a pair of buckets to proxy in a Warlord Titan...

Just watch out someone doesn't proxy a bolt pistol as an volcano cannon.

"Aiee! My Void Shield!"

Adept
18-10-2007, 03:38
Generally, I've just been playing around on army builder and adding the stuff that I always wanted to put in my regular list.

So we've got a squad of sniper scouts, eight assault termies in a LRC, a jump pack chaplain with an assault squad, a thunderhawk gunship, a terminus pattern landraider, and a few other goodies.

EmperorEternalXIX
18-10-2007, 03:52
I'm the same way. With recent SM nerfage there are some things I'd never use, but now they aren't quite so stupid to take.

TheOverlord
18-10-2007, 03:56
A brass scorpion! Although that's only for apocalypse T_T

My dream of the 30 man terminator squads all marked with the Icon ofKhorne and upgraded to champions with combi flamers :D Led by a Lord with terminator armor and marked with the Mark of Khorne and a daemon weapon!! :D

Pendragon
18-10-2007, 04:05
More than six troop choices (finally).
More than three tanks (finally).

A baneblade.

Also, I'm scratchbuilding a smaller dropship (than the thunderhawk) for my Templars.

/Joel

galahad67
18-10-2007, 05:10
Air units - I just scored a vulcan (it goes in the mail friday!)

Heavy and super-heavy tanks (macharius vanq and VMB are somewhere enroute from nottingham)

Landraider companies! wheeeee!

25 termies!

I now have a reason to put all those IG together.

if only my rulebook that I preordered would arrive...

Grimbad
18-10-2007, 06:16
1 stompa
1 armed and fully operational battle gargant
1 rapid-firing air-pressure squig launcher light artillery tank
I'm considering paradropping the squig herd I used to field under feral ork rules.
3 grot-sized fighta-bommas.
Weeeeeeeeeeee!
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/grimbadgrotkikka/P7103857.jpg

Bob5000
18-10-2007, 08:28
3 Falcons
A Baneblade
All my GK Terminators

jansuza
18-10-2007, 10:46
Alot of my DE stuff I haven't used in ages.

A talos or two
Asdrubael Vect
Jetbikes
Mandrakes
Incubi!! I haven't taken them in so long, and I love the models.

IJW
18-10-2007, 10:52
Multiple Eldar Support Batteries, a Revenant. :)

Biomass Denial
18-10-2007, 10:55
20 point gaunts ha ha

Maren
18-10-2007, 10:59
My only idea is a whole conscricpt company. I.e only conscripts and commisars and some HQ squads. No armour, just meat.

mistformsquirrel
18-10-2007, 11:01
>.> I wonder what would happen if I VDR'd my cat as a 4 legged titan...

thegreyman
18-10-2007, 11:02
6 of each assasin, and 240 Death cults... Were pulling in every non GW assasin for every game we've ever played to simulate someone attacking a Temple...

The pestilent 1
18-10-2007, 11:04
I can now field EVERYTHING.

Even my Four Daemon Princes and Five Chaos lords.
What can I say, when I get an idea I do a conversion.

I do need more tanks though, I seem to be a bit short on the old heavy weaponry.

EmMeTt
18-10-2007, 11:10
310 guardsman and a baneblade:evilgrin::evilgrin:

If they don't move thats about 620 lasgun shots:eek: hahaha

Ilmarinen
18-10-2007, 11:15
An Inquisition armoured spearhead, with all three ordos represented:
a Deathwatch kill-team in a Land Raider Prometheus (house rule!)
Grey Knight terminators in a Land Raider Crusader
a Witchhunter Inquisitor with retinue (using some SOB models) in a Land Raider Purifier (twin-linked MM on the sponsons, twin heavy flamer on the front mount and a pintle storm bolter)(VDR).

graveaccomplice
18-10-2007, 11:37
My plan: Lots and lots of spore mines. :evilgrin:

Darnok
18-10-2007, 12:08
My WIP-Skullhamma. Possibly a Stompa (still to be built). As my Orks are Blood Axes I can field some unusual allies, which make sense from the background: a squad Ogryns, a squad of Kroot. Stuff like that.

marv335
18-10-2007, 12:20
masters of the chapter in terminator armour attached to a terminator command squad with a chapter master, master of sanctity, and an epistolary and a reclusiarch leading a 10 strong terminator assault squad in a thunderhawk
:D
there's 3000pts right there

Godgolden
18-10-2007, 12:49
Everything, i have alot of tanks and specialist vehicle such as tarantulas etc, superheavies and heavies (stormblade,BB, mecharius) all playing together playing pattycake with ordnance with the enemy.

Scythe
18-10-2007, 13:09
You know the Culexus assassin? He's armed with a groovy weapon that gets more shots if he's near a psyker...

You know the "Last Chancers?" You can have up to 20 of 'em in an Imperial Guard army. Well, you can upgrade each and every one of 'em to be a psyker.

That Culexus can end up with something like a twenty-two shot weapon. Yeowtch! And that multiple-assassin force that's on the GW website...

Four or five Culexus dishing out twenty-two shots a turn is certainly a whole bucketfull of dice, eh?

What about adding a Callidus to the mix? Enemies with a Ld reduced to 7 mesh well with a template weapon which targets leadership. :D

Anyway:

- hormagaunts. Haven't used them for quite some time. However, in an endless swarm, they will be priceless.
- close combat carnifexes. Just deep strike them in, and start the rampage.
- a hierophant. Just because I can. :evilgrin:

Taking my Callidus alongside a Tyranid horde filled with psychic scream would also be pretty nifty, but I won't be trying that out in practice. ;)

Enanus
18-10-2007, 13:22
Should I have the money: Warhound titan of chaos as first options. Other goodies:

- Minimum 1 baneblade
- Possessed (just to use the minis, because they are a bit unplayable now...)
- All characters I have (Kharn, Abaddon, Arhiman, soon to come Typhus...)
- Older minis like beasts of nurgle and some very old chaos space marines I have harvesting dust in the shelf...
- My 2 dreads (maybe even a third from FW)

gLOBS
18-10-2007, 13:39
Was thinking about taking some lictors but even in apocalypse the amount of lictors needed to seriously hurt a 10 man tact squad would be a third of my points.

EVIL INC
18-10-2007, 13:51
I dont have the book and likely wont until christmas. My personal choice beyond "taking everything" would be to build terreign. Does it allow for static fortifications with "big guns" built in Like volcano cannons and such? If so, I would be making them as that would be less expensive then keeping up with the joneses and buying the titans and such. Are there rules out now for the cannon of khorne to be used as what it is rather then proxying it as a vindicator? That would be cool.

darrelltmcd
18-10-2007, 13:53
a monolith or 5.

I like the idea of the 20 point gaunts.

EVIL INC
18-10-2007, 13:54
[QUOTE=Enanus;2014530]
- Older minis like beasts of nurgle and some very old chaos space marines I have harvesting dust in the shelf...
QUOTE]
I have a large ammount of those original renegade models (30+ I think). I actually use them as possessed. They look different enough from reguler marines to stand out and the built in blades and mutations demonstrate what they are perfectly.

Enanus
18-10-2007, 14:22
[QUOTE=Enanus;2014530]
- Older minis like beasts of nurgle and some very old chaos space marines I have harvesting dust in the shelf...
QUOTE]
I have a large ammount of those original renegade models (30+ I think). I actually use them as possessed. They look different enough from reguler marines to stand out and the built in blades and mutations demonstrate what they are perfectly.

I normally have the courtesy to include one or two in my army, just for the simpathy they inspire and me and the giggliness they inspire in my fellow players which are quite newbies in the hobby :D

Commodore Perry
18-10-2007, 14:38
I'll bring out the Reaver titan, the soon-to-be commissioned Leviathan and the rest of the 20K in guard.

IJW
18-10-2007, 14:44
Does it allow for static fortifications with "big guns" built in Like volcano cannons and such?
You can find a Defence Laser fortification datasheet on the GW site. :)
http://uk.games-workshop.com/apocalypse/datasheets/1/

There may be a Cannon of Khorne datasheet in the player's datasheets thread (see below), but nothing in the book.

Killgore
18-10-2007, 14:55
Phantom Titan bwahaha

I'm looking forward to fielding all my wraithguard and wraithlords without being branded a beardie bugger :D love the spirit host datasheet

EVIL INC
18-10-2007, 15:03
IJW Thank you. Looks like I will have to get started. :)

john-connors
18-10-2007, 15:12
I always fancied deep striking all my 150+ Chaos Terminators led by Abbadon. I managed over a hundred in a 32k list I played last xmas, just need to finish painting and converting all the plasma combi-weapons so I can rock 'n' roll.

Killgore
18-10-2007, 15:15
I always fancied deep striking all my 150+ Chaos Terminators led by Abbadon. I managed over a hundred in a 32k list I played last xmas, just need to finish painting and converting all the plasma combi-weapons so I can rock 'n' roll.


got a pic? that i would like to see

Sister_Sin
18-10-2007, 15:16
Oh my! Hmmm...

A company of Baneblades.

More tanks than ever.

Salamanders Tank Army; 5 Land Raiders, 4 Predators, 4 Vindicators, Razorbacks, and Rhinos. You betcha!

A pair of Warhounds of the Warp Runners or Flaming Skulls depending on which army I play.

Aircraft.

Sister Sin

vlorlich
18-10-2007, 15:20
Heavy Destroyers... and Pariahs... are what I will field that I normally never use. I might actually finish painting my pariahs too.

john-connors
18-10-2007, 15:20
got a pic? that i would like to see

Moved house last Friday and everything is still in a box. I made the unfortunate mistake of couting everything in my Chaos armies, hence I discovered I had so many Terminators.

I'm frightened by how many (painted/ unpainted/ unfinished) Chaos Space Marines I have...:(

leonmallett
18-10-2007, 15:24
I plan on using all that 'negative VP' stuff that I am reluctant to take in competitive 1500 pt games (transports etc).

Cry of the Wind
18-10-2007, 16:08
I'm going to build my ultimate Inquisitorial retinue. My Inquisitor has a techpriest with him, no longer is he a simple Sage, now he really is an IG Enginseer. His psyker is not a simple Mystic but rather a seperate Elite Inquisitor with no gear but psychic powers. These guys will then join a squad of Hardened Veterans led by the Inquisitors friend who is also the commander of his Inducted soldiers and his personal troops. Plus now they can hitch a ride in their Valkryie finally, or maybe a Pre-heresy Land Raider...

Durath
18-10-2007, 17:42
My titan and baneblade, obviously.
Land Raiders.
Special Characters.
A Khorne and Iron Warriors contingent force.

The Orange
18-10-2007, 18:36
What about units with special rules? Do you see things like deep strike being more useful now (or maybe just funnier)? I'm almost tempted by that batttlesuit datasheet (I wonder if I could fit Farsight in there :evilgrin:).

stormtrooper154
18-10-2007, 18:51
Apocalypse has given me the inspiration to revisit my 2 armies. For the Tyranids Im planning on making 10+ winged warriors (crap normally but chuck with a pair of flyrants...), getting the malanthrope and scythed hierodule as well as some other stuff. As for my marines, an assault squad led by a chaplain, vindicators, inquisitorial stormtroopers with baneblade and inquisitor - the list goes on!

Culven
18-10-2007, 19:00
My Thunderhawksssss. :evilgrin:

Maybe I will finish painting all of my Last Chancers and field them all at the same time too. :D

ChaosMaster
18-10-2007, 19:12
Okay, maybe the Apocalypse threads are getting a bit old, but I'm genially curious. Given the general open'nes (:wtf: is that even a word) of Apocalypse, is their anything that suddenly looks a whole lot better then before in your army? Or have you come up with some crazy ideas and/or combos that just wouldn't have worked in regular 40k games?

Mine aren't really that outrageous so what crazy ideas would you like to try?
Openness is indeed a correct, English word.

Apocalypse is allowing me to take large numbers of items that I've built over the years for fun but could never fit in a game all at once, like 20 Chaos Terminators, multiple Chaos Lords (I fielded Chaos Masters of the Chapter last weekend), more large point vehicles, multiple Dreadnought conversions, etc. I absolutely LOVE it!