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Davout
08-11-2007, 03:21
So today I was at work and this guy in my office is taking off for the day and mentions that he may not be in on Friday.

I ask him why, thinking that he'll be throwing back a few on Thursday night. Well he sheepishly tells me that he and a budy of his are playing this game called Warhammer.

Well I gave him a big smile and told him I was into 40k

So how many of us are closet wargamers, going through life, passing other gamers and not even knowing it? I know I am...not ashamed or anything, just never advertising it to people

der_lex
08-11-2007, 04:10
I'm pretty open about it... when people visit our apartment, the glass display case full of mini's is pretty much the first thing they see. I also mention it as well when people ask about my hobby's. They never dwell on it for too long, simply because LARPing already takes up the 'weirdest hobby mentioned' spot :D

Justicar Jacob
08-11-2007, 05:23
I'm kind of quiet about it. In the circles I hang out with (other then primary friends) GW stuff would seem pretty weird. But it was funny that my girlfriend found out through my friend and I then found out she paints GW for her dad.

Darkseer
08-11-2007, 05:37
I keep it quiet.

I mean, have you actually been into a GW lately? Because that's what people imagine in their heads when you say "I play 40K".
Screaming kids, terminally geeky people and the hot stench of bodily odour!

Of course, some nobber at work at work sussed me out when I said I was off to Nottingham for a weekend with some mates, then openly talked about 40K and when he used to play as a young lad. *BRANDED*
Cheers mate :rolleyes:

Hicks
08-11-2007, 05:58
Almost all of my close friends play and the GF doesn't care. I don't mind talking about it, but I will almost never start a conversation on wargaming. I never got any bull about it though, but everyone not familiar with it seems to think that it's D&D.

Atrum Angelus
08-11-2007, 06:37
I've never been quiet about it. Models were always scattered across my desk when people came over (or earlier, to my dorm) and for most, when asked about them, I'd just say I painted models that were used in a game similar to chess or risk.
Now, well... I end up having to explain it everytime someone asks where I work. And while Darkseer is right about how people perceive the hobby (loud kids, terminal geeks, and body odor) not everyone who comes in to our store is like that... well, the kids are loud. I'd say only a handful fall into the terminally-geeky and smelly.

Shadowheart
08-11-2007, 06:55
I make no attempt to hide it, so anyone that knows me knows I collect toy soldiers. But then, how many people do you interact with that you actually know? It's not something that immediately comes up when you talk to someone. Depending on how much I'm into 40K at a given time (not much, at the moment) it may take a while for someone to find out about my double life as an Imperial Guard commander.

Jedi152
08-11-2007, 07:37
I tend to keep it quiet.

I worked with someone for a few years until i saw him reading a copy of White Dwarf in the tea room. I cautiously asked him if he played, and it turned out he'd been into it as long as me!

Dwarf Supreme
08-11-2007, 17:09
I tend to keep quiet about it also. My family knows about it, but my wife doesn't approve of it. Most of my friends aren't gamers. On job applications or during interviews, when asked what my hobbies are, I never mention gaming. If I lived alone, however, I would have minis on display.

Rabid Bunny 666
08-11-2007, 17:13
Well, half my friends are wargamers, and the other half are aware of it, used to collect, and gave up because they thought it was dumb.

A healthy balance :D

The pestilent 1
08-11-2007, 17:19
...

I'm a wargamer, I like Aly & AJ, I play Pokemon, I have an unrequited love, (I'm running out of things that people never admit to because they fail at life), I believe Science doesn't have all the answers, I'm pseudo religious and I think anyone who isn't true to the world about who they are doesn't deserve to be.

Mad Doc Grotsnik
08-11-2007, 17:38
If we're talking about the Wargaming Closet, I guess I'm the screaming queen you see on Big Brother every ******* year.

I'm here, I drink beer, get used to it!

Zink
08-11-2007, 22:20
I used to be. Only my closest friends knew because I got a hard time about it in school. But I grew up bigger, smarter and tougher than the guys that used to give me trouble. So now I don't care. I don't advertise much but I don't deliberately hide it either. My nephew is a 21 year old football jock and plays as well. His friends that find out he plays are shocked because he's the anti-geek. Once you're an adult geek or jock starts to lose it's meaning.

SV_Harlequin
08-11-2007, 22:23
I'm open and proud. I've also found that if you ask really nearly any geekesque male they will have some point played at least a GW game usually 40k.

Crazy Harborc
09-11-2007, 01:53
I've been talking up toy soldiers since I was in 7th grade. I've been talking up wargaming about 1968.

Life has taught me that as time has past I've met more than a few wargamers who were not geeks. Doctors, lawyers, successful business owners, career employees, retirees

I mention my hobby when my wife and I travel to Ragtime and or Dixieland Jazz concerts and festivals.

Decades ago, I heard a classmate (at a reunion) make a comment along the lines of...."The nerds (called geeks now) now own the businesses the long ago jocks work for.:D

Kulgur
09-11-2007, 02:02
Look through the penny arcade archives, one of them has Gabe telling some kids at school "Yeah I know things are tough now, but outside? We run things"

der_lex
09-11-2007, 02:05
Life has taught me that as time has past I've met more than a few wargamers who were not geeks. Doctors, lawyers, successful business owners, career employees, retirees

Don't think those things are mutually exclusive, though. If I only look at the executive committee of our LARP society, I count one doctor, a lawyer, the regional head of school inspection, a psychologist, a freelance photographer, a freelance translator/copywriter and an internal coordinator at a major corporation. Successful, yes, but all geek/nerd through and through :D

I have to admit that I've never had a bad reaction when mentioning any of my geeky hobbies to non-geek friends and acquaintances, though. To my experience, people will react positively if you explain things with enough patience and let your passion for the hobby shine through.

Penitent
09-11-2007, 02:18
I neither advertise my wargaming, nor do I hide it. It if comes up in conversation, so be it.

Every so often, someone has a smart remark about the hobby, always someone immature and too self-absorbed in being "normal".

Light of the Emperor
09-11-2007, 03:22
A friend of mine who I've known for a few semesters asked me what I was doing in Baltimore last weekend. I told him I went to a wargaming tourny and he said "Cool, I play Blood Angels". I've known the guy for that long and never knew he gamed...sometimes you just gotta ask although all of the gals I've asked have said no...but statistics are with me!

thegnome
09-11-2007, 05:29
My professor for my Learning and Behavior in Advertising and Marketing (4th year psychology advanced topics course) is a closet gamer. I've heard that he's been known to lament how nobody plays BFG anymore, which gets me thinking about the fleet I've got sitting in my carrying case behind my door, and the unfinished ships on my top shelf...

Easy E
09-11-2007, 15:09
That's an easy A.

Just the other day I was at a wine dinner with people I had never met, and we all had a good laugh about my penchant for "war dollies".

Crazy Harborc
10-11-2007, 01:35
Since retiring I have had no hassling about my hobby from people I have met. I start it of mentioning historical wargaming. I tell them we don't shoot paper clips at them or roll marbles across the table or floor. We use dice and tape measures with lots of paperwork and charts.:D

polymphus
10-11-2007, 01:56
I don't openly advertise it, but I don't exactly hide it either. My desk is covered in WiP minis and said desk takes up about a third of my bedroom, so anyone coming in can take a look at whatever I'm working on if it takes their fancy. My friends all know that I play and some of them do themselves; just not quite so fanatically as myself. :p

Damien 1427
10-11-2007, 19:25
I don't admit it, but I've never had to deny it. Nor would I bother. Most (Read - All) of the gents I work with play WoW. One of them is something of a comic fan.

*Shrug*

Also, Kuglur, the comic was the other way around. He was telling them "we don't run ****".

RavenMorpheus
10-11-2007, 22:40
So today I was at work and this guy in my office is taking off for the day and mentions that he may not be in on Friday.

I ask him why, thinking that he'll be throwing back a few on Thursday night. Well he sheepishly tells me that he and a budy of his are playing this game called Warhammer.

Well I gave him a big smile and told him I was into 40k

So how many of us are closet wargamers, going through life, passing other gamers and not even knowing it? I know I am...not ashamed or anything, just never advertising it to people

I'm not a closet wargamer but apparently I play with Toy Soldiers. :wtf:

I'd say you only know if someone is a wargamer if you either see them playing, ask them or they tell you. BUt no-one intentionally keeps themselves in the "closet" afaik.

I don't know of anyone who goes around advertising the fact either though - I mean people don't wear nametags saying I play with children and toy soldiers, maybe a badge saying I play with miniature facsimiles of science fiction/fantasy based military troopers and people younger than me :p

theunwantedbeing
10-11-2007, 23:19
I dont brag about it, but I see no reason to deny it if asked.
Its a hobby and I enjoy it.

Lord Lucifer
11-11-2007, 11:28
Life has taught me that as time has past I've met more than a few wargamers who were not geeks. Doctors, lawyers, successful business owners, career employees, retirees

Every wargamer you've ever met (and every one you have not) is a geek. Simply because they game, they're a geek. Geekdom does not mean being socially inadequate, it just happens there's a lot of cross-over there.

Geeks are folks with entertaining specialist interests (sci-fi, roleplaying, wargaming, anime, cartoons, cult tv shows, following sports a little too closely, etc.), and aside from this can be as successful and extroverted as they want.
The stereotype is harsh and misleading.


It's an easy breakdown. Geeks like 'childish' things like games (computer, miniature, whatever) or fiction. Nerds are diligent and intelligent and enjoy intellectual endeavours. Dorks are socially awkward.
Some geeks are nerds, some nerds are dorks, some dorks are geeks.
This definition is supported by popculture, they pointed it out on The Simpsons (Milhouse telling Bart he's not a nerd, he's a geek, because nerds are smart)

inq.serge
11-11-2007, 14:24
I don't talk about it, but I don't deny that I play if someone asks me "Do you play wfb/40k?".

When people ask what's my favourite game, I answer "INQ".

If they ask what you do in the game, I answer "Cleanse aliens, burn witches, banish daemons, execute heretics and purge mutants."

And If someone asks "On what console do you play?" I answer "You don't play it on a computer or such, you play it on a table with dice and all."

And if they ask "Is it like 40k?", I answer "yeah, it's actually the same game universe."

But I never talk about it unless someone starts.

Here are some real life happenings.

1:
[Sitting on a rock on the beach with my class, next to an other chick who sit on a rock, she says spontaneously:]
Random Chick: Yesterday, I played Warhammer.
Me: What do you play? Nids? Squig heavy orks?
She: No, it's my boyfriend who plays, and he let me try, I played as some kind of humans and fought some other humans, it was fun.
Me: Fantasy or 40k?
She: Why does all nerds say 40k?
Me: because that's the name of the game; 40 is 40, and K is 1000.
She: oh, but it was fun anyway.

Ex2: [Design class, a guy is behind me, we are turned back to back, since we stand at two different tables, he starts to comment my bloodthirster that I've put up on the intraweb, and the small miniature of Nike of Samothrace, that I made of GS.]
Finnish triplet 1 : Nice mini.
Me: Thanks.
He: I bet you sculpt your own warhammer.
Me: It would take to long time, I mostly sculpt characters from different armies, so I don't have a real army fully sculpted, but I prefer to sculpt lahmias.

Adept
11-11-2007, 14:53
Also, Kuglur, the comic was the other way around. He was telling them "we don't run ****".

No, he has it right.

Gabe was telling the school nerds that out in the real world, nerds run things.

Gaz
11-11-2007, 18:07
I kept it quiet in school, since the ****** would give me and the other players hassle for it. But since I've left school, I haven't had any hassle. I don't openly brag about it, but if people ask I will tell them. I've had a few people say "My god why would you do such childish crap?" but they soon shut up when I said "Well it's either that, or a spend my money on crack and develop an addiction". :d

My girlfriend wasn't into the army when we started going out, but now she has 1000pts of Tau, 1500 Orcs/Goblins and a load of scenery painted up and loves to read the novels. It's suprising how many people do check the hobby out when you give them a decent description of it.

heretics bane
11-11-2007, 19:00
I dont deny it im just a quiet gamer, People use to give me cr@p about it but when word spreads of you bein a rather ferocious rugby player the comments seemed to have disappeared;) My older uncle plays it and originaly got me into the hobby and i know a load of guys in the milatry who play it.

Its not "nerdy/geeky" its just clever:D

inq.serge
11-11-2007, 20:53
I dont deny it im just a quiet gamer, People use to give me cr@p about it but when word spreads of you bein a rather ferocious rugby player the comments seemed to have disappeared;)


Yeah, It's even better when there's a rumour spread that you are a "hate filled psychotic 1/4 Russian who hates everyone, and trains MMA, and can beat everyone in your school, and often have sadistic ideas, and is treated by almost everyone with fearspect". When you have a rumour like that following you, no-one dares to call you nerd. (I like that I have that rumour following me.).

Burnthem
11-11-2007, 22:02
The British army is full of closet wargamers, mostly you find them out by seeing paint marks on their tables in thier rooms :D

silence
11-11-2007, 22:59
LOL indeed the forces are full of closet gamers, but sometimes can you blame them?

Either way, I'm not in the closet, I read WD and WI at work on my break and have been asked about it a few times and i've never had any bad comments, but then I work with a diverse group of adults with alot of different hobbies, from trainspotting to one guy who does sky surfing.

Alathir
12-11-2007, 02:07
I don't go proclaiming my love of warhammer to the world or anything but if someone asked me, I wouldn't deny it. If it was a first date or something though.. I'd be tactful and say I just painted models for a hobby etc.

TheNZer
12-11-2007, 05:29
I'm pretty open about it, when I collected LOTR I used to bring BGIME's into class and read them, after a while several guys aproched me asking to read them then when is started to bring WD's in they began to ask questions and now they both collect.

Several other guys now read them, so who knows GW might get several more collectors.

forgotten hero
12-11-2007, 11:11
I dont advertise that im into Warhammer, but if asked i will say.

i used to be a person that hides a GW bag inside another one, but that stopped a few months ago, because i stopped careing what people thought of me.

-Rob

Tzaryn
12-11-2007, 11:19
I'm a trainer and will put various names into the scenarios I use in order to seek out fellow geeks.

This worked until a couple of years ago when someone came up to me after an event and asked who came up with the scenarios. I told him it was me and we had a great discussion about RP'ing and wargaming. He then described me to the rest of the people in the office as "A DungeonMaster."

I got a few funny looks after that...

Darkseer
12-11-2007, 11:32
The things is....all the people who are judgemental about these kind of hobbies have no real life skills.

The Broxbourne Massive was down the pub last night and we got chatting about what everyone at the CARNAGE tournies do for a living.
We had army, navy, RAF, police, doctors, engineers, carpenters and all sorts. Practically no office workers.

When the **** hits the fan and the zombie apocalypse is upon us, won't you be glad you know a lot of wargamers!

Easy E
12-11-2007, 12:18
Hey, I'm an office worker! Although I prefer the term Wage Slave of the Supervisory Class. Alternately known as Mr. Expendable!

SV_Harlequin
12-11-2007, 14:43
The British army is full of closet wargamers, mostly you find them out by seeing paint marks on their tables in thier rooms :D
Oh that's so true, it seems to be the same with the US aswell.

RavenMorpheus
12-11-2007, 19:17
I just confirmed my suspicions about my manager - he's a gamer, not necessarily in the closet but he's been gaming for 20+ years.

And guess what - he advocates powergaming - well he is a manager :rolleyes:

Darkseer
12-11-2007, 20:12
I just confirmed my suspicions about my manager - he's a gamer, not necessarily in the closet but he's been gaming for 20+ years.

And guess what - he advocates powergaming - well he is a manager :rolleyes:

I bet he 'dice cushions' too!

RavenMorpheus
12-11-2007, 20:40
I bet he 'dice cushions' too!

Dunno - what's dice cushioning?

The Dude
12-11-2007, 22:24
The things is....all the people who are judgemental about these kind of hobbies have no real life skills.

The Broxbourne Massive was down the pub last night and we got chatting about what everyone at the CARNAGE tournies do for a living.
We had army, navy, RAF, police, doctors, engineers, carpenters and all sorts. Practically no office workers.

When the **** hits the fan and the zombie apocalypse is upon us, won't you be glad you know a lot of wargamers!

Do you think Id be on here this often if I wasnt an office worker?

I have far better things to do at home ;):p

nazrag
13-11-2007, 09:56
Definetly not closet gamer.. Though I hardly mention it to anyone if they dont ask me directly if I play with GW stuff. If asked about my hobbies, I usually answer beer anyway :rolleyes:

All of my closest friends play, so they know I play. Most other people will soon find out anyway, as that black suitcase with an imperial eagle I carry around a lot tends to draw some attention :p Also the t-shirts with loads of GW stuff on them dont help much either ;)

Bombot
13-11-2007, 11:33
When the **** hits the fan and the zombie apocalypse is upon us, won't you be glad you know a lot of wargamers!

Yeah, plenty will think that they can take on the zombies with their 'l33t skillz', giving me a chance to run away :p

DeathlessDraich
13-11-2007, 11:43
I think many gamers in England will agree that these are almost certainly factual:

1) Most British males below 35 have heard of Warhammer but less than 10% have dabbled with the game at least once in their lives.

2) A combination of high intelligence, an especially lively imagination, scientific propensity or historically/military minded youngsters have a higher probability of attempting the game once.

3) The dropout rate of Warhammer far exceeds continual interest.

SV_Harlequin
13-11-2007, 16:36
I think many gamers in England will agree that these are almost certainly factual:

1) Most British males below 35 have heard of Warhammer but less than 10% have dabbled with the game at least once in their lives.

2) A combination of high intelligence, an especially lively imagination, scientific propensity or historically/military minded youngsters have a higher probability of attempting the game once.

3) The dropout rate of Warhammer far exceeds continual interest.

Oh agree entirely, it should also be added

4) If dropped during Teenhood its entirely likely that hitting 30 it will be picked back up again.