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eleveninches
12-11-2007, 10:59
475: Teclis
125: 10 Archers (standard, musician) [5 wide]
231: 24 Spearelves (standard, musician) [7 wide]
275: 14 Swordmasters (FC, talisman of loec, banner of arcane protection) [7 wide]
285: 13 Phoenix Guard (FC, skeinsilver, banner of sorcery) [5 wide]
180: 6 Dragon Princes
140: Lion Chariot
140: Lion Chariot
100: RBT
50: Great Eagle
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2001
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CAST: 8-12 PD (expecing 2 irresistable spells per turn)
DISPEL: 5-7 DD + Scroll of Hoeth + Magic Res (2) on swordmasters

brambleten
12-11-2007, 17:55
i cant really fault the list, very magic orientated. would you be using high magic with teclis or different lores per opponent?

Kaleb79
12-11-2007, 19:31
I'm sure he'll just pick whatever suites him - so sweet being able to know all 6 spells!

personally I'd try and get a few more magic banners and magic items in there to improve survivability of your bigger units. and why not drop one Lion Chariot to get a BSB Hero in there?

eleveninches
13-11-2007, 12:25
and why not drop one Lion Chariot to get a BSB Hero in there?Because lion chariots will cause more damage than a BSB will, and i dont really need a BSB. I'll probably get more CR from a single swordmaster than from a BSB.

Teclis will chose the lore according to the opponant. With banner of sorcery he will get 6+2D3 dice per turn, enough to do 2 5-dice casting attempts and thus get 2 iresistable force spells per turn (well, most of the time)
Shadow for pit of shades and unseen lurker (great against TK and dwarf gunlines, Irresistable pit of shades = 1 dead slann)
Light for cleansing flare against VC
High magic for most armies just to get vauls unmaking and flames of the phoenix both cast on 5 dice and irresistable.
With skeinsilver, i can expect +2 for first turn, then cast unseen lurker on a lion chariot or dragon princes in my first turn, charging the enemy before he can do anything at all.

Talisman of loec is a steal for 10 points. For the swordmaster champion, I will almost be guarenteed to cause 3 wounds, and then lose my champion, but his death does not count towards CR because it happens at the end of the phase.

eleveninches
19-11-2007, 10:49
cavalry alternative:

125: 10 Archers (standard, musician)
125: 10 Archers (standard, musician)
150: 5 Dragon Princes
150: 5 Dragon Princes
150: 5 Dragon Princes
150: 5 Dragon Princes
75: 5 White Lions
75: 5 White Lions
100: RBT
100: RBT
100: RBT
100: RBT
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1400
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then, either:

596: Lord (star dragon, heavy armour, lance, vambraces of defence, enchanted shield)

OR:

475: Teclis
70: Dragon Prince Standard bearer with Banner of Sorcery
37: White Lion Champion with Skeinsilver
15: +1 White Lion

(using min white lion units to screen bolt throwers)

eleveninches
26-11-2007, 12:59
Another idea:

475: Teclis
460: Asarnil (on Deathfang the Dragon)
135: 10 Seaguard (standard, musician)
135: 10 Seaguard (standard, musician)
315: 14 Swordmasters (FC, Banner of sorcery, skeinsilver)
090: 6 White Lions
190: 5 Dragon Princes (champion, talisman of loec, musician)
100: RBT
100: RBT
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2000
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(asarnil counts as 1 rare and 2 hero choices, not a lord choice, so can even be used in 1000 point games)

EndlessBug
26-11-2007, 14:40
good original list, only thing I'd do is drop the spearelves to 21 and give them a war banner instead of those extra 3. I know they require only 3 casualties to reduce rank atm but the +1 CR more than makes up for that IMO

grhino
27-11-2007, 12:04
Damn, I did not even notice that special troops are now 5+. They make good cheap flanking units... unless you get shot: obviously.

eleveninches
27-11-2007, 13:57
And now 5-6 white lions in a unit are a perfect cheap screening unit for your bolt throwers and archers. Striking first at S6, they wont have many attacks back at them, then they are stubborn at Ld 10 (when within rancge of the general), so they hold up units for many turns.