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SilentTempest
23-11-2007, 04:11
I'm trying to find the Fantasy army that's right for me, and I've got a question about the character of the armies that I'm hoping folks can help me with.

The preamble: I've done some roleplaying in my time, and there's one character that I keep coming back to. He's my favourite creation by a country mile. He's a paladin. His village was attacked by a necromancer, his sister (his only living family) killed. He was severly wounded, but rescued by a band of religious warriors/paladins, and inducted into their order. He is inherently good. He always tries to be good, but inside him there festers a deep need for vengeance. He does try to be good, but will not always take the most lawful approaches to achieving that. To give an example, it's possible that, in a rage, he would cut down a captured evil-doer, because they had slaughtered some innocents. Basically, he is a flawed hero.

I enjoy this type of character far more than the knight in shining armour. I like the internal struggle, the indecision of not knowing what they should do, the fight against themselves. They are good, but there is a sadness about them. If anyone's seen Sin City, none of the 3 main characters were BAD, but they did some bad stuff as a means to an end.

What I'd like to know, is what army most embodies this type of character? If people have any ideas for specific flavours of a given army, hit me with those too!

Finnigan2004
23-11-2007, 04:30
I would say a Brettonian from Mousillon or a Blood Dragon vampire.

Luisjoey
23-11-2007, 04:38
Men EMPIRE is your army!

See luthor huss he does the good following his god sigmar, but he is rebellous and inspires fear.

Warpriests are kind of Lawful paladins! not good at all.
Empire is full of flawed heroes! that could kill a enemy because he thinks is evil.

Bretonia is more like shining as you donīt want, but you could make errand knights and those things with humilty vows.

and the blood dragons fits good, but they are very dark powered

CaptScott
23-11-2007, 05:46
He was severly wounded, but rescued by a band of religious warriors/paladins, and inducted into their order. He is inherently good. He always tries to be good, but inside him there festers a deep need for vengeance. He does try to be good, but will not always take the most lawful approaches to achieving that.

Sounds like Empire to me, priests, knights, flagellants. Remeber you don't have to follow the 'shining knight' path for Empire, the beauty with them is that you can build an army with any feel you like, and the Empire has all the choices you would want.

Dranthar
23-11-2007, 06:01
This would probably be a somewhat unorthodox suggestion, but what about Chaos? Theere's two options that come to mind;

1. Misunderstood tribe of beastmen. Want only to practice their beliefs and traditions in peace, but keep getting attacked by 'do-gooder' humans. It's not quite the 'flawed hero' idea you explained, but the concept is close enough that it might appeal to you.

2. A champion of the Chaos God Malal. If you can find some of the background on Malal, he's actually a sort of 'anti-chaos' Chaos God, and I believe tends to emphasise hatred of all things in it's purest form. Champions of Malal are often those who have had their families/town/lives destroyed by the forces of Chaos, and vow to seek vengance against them. In a sense they're doing 'good', but use very dark methods to acheive their aims.

mistformsquirrel
23-11-2007, 06:54
Empire it sounds like to me; though I think Hordes of Chaos also has a possibility.

And there's also nothing to say you can't go with Bretonnia as well; not EVERY Bretonnian knight is a shimmering beacon of shininess after all. (Heck, most of them are actually pompus jerks anyway - your character would likely be one of the most honest of the lot!)

*Edit*

I want to expound on the Chaos comment I made.

Hordes of Chaos offers you a great moral turmoil if you avoid the pitfall of "ZOMG CHAOS IS EVIL"

Chaos worshipers are not necessarily crazy murderers or diseased half-zombies or porn addicts or wizards flying around on disks with eyeballs. Some, like Aekold Helbrass (see Liber Chaotica - Liber Tzeentch) actually want to elicit good from Chaos because they can see the current system is simply not working for the common folks. Unfortunately these people are hunted and killed, at the very least removed from society and shunned.

Heck - my own Chaos Lord is somewhat similar in some ways. She's a Tzeentch worshiper leading a rebellion into the southern Empire in an attempt to break the peasantry free from their bonds. The great thing here with Chaos, is that because it encompasses ALL possibilities - your character can believe they are doing good - and indeed, the gods may even grant them power as they do good works (the Chaos gods only care that you serve their ends; the morality of it, good or ill, is irrelevant) - and yet at the same point they still have to contend with those occasional maddening whispers at the back of their minds. The question of if perhaps they would not do better for themselves if they were to simply become a tyrant themselves. This comes to anyone with power; but its especially true for someone wielding the stuff of Chaos.

And then there's mutation - what better sign of inner turmoil than that you can wear on the outside? It doesn't all have to be tentacles and spikes. It can be subtle things - mirrored eyes like a cats, mercury for blood, mystical insights or intuition, etc...

I'm not sure if that's actually what you're after mind you; but I figure its a worthwhile suggestion. Empire certainly makes sense as well with what you're after too; but I figure that's the most obvious one so I want to suggest something a bit different.