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kishvier
27-11-2007, 17:03
Stuff that is up to date:
Name: Warpseers
Colors: One shoulder pad painted black with blue trim.
Rival(s):Ahriman

Latro_
27-11-2007, 17:07
when i sawe the title of the thread i thought of the Ws colours as a sheme in my head
mainly black with various light blues, would be awesome.

feelnopain666
27-11-2007, 17:07
Dont you think that the original 9 legions are enought? I dont see the point of made a Chaos Legion, but there's always the two legions that we dont know anything about them.

Khorghan
27-11-2007, 17:14
the black with the bits of blue would look really nice on CSM

kishvier
27-11-2007, 17:33
I'm saying make a Warseer only Legion sort of like the space marine chapter. We had one being made on 40konline.

malisteen
27-11-2007, 19:48
Instead of a whole legion, I'd make it an individual warband. That way you don't but up against the 'only so many legions' problem. Plus it goes with the new book's warband focus.

Black with blue trim would be the obvious starting point, and that color scheme would cause me to think 'mostly undivided, with some tzeentch influence', which also fits with the general chaos player base on warseer.


Here's some things we'd want:

1) Name. Would 'The War Seers' be too obvious? Seer implies psyker to me, which fits with that 'slight tzeentch leaning' I was pushing above.

2) Background. Is the warband a breakaway faction from one of the original traitor legions, or a rebel marine chapter? Or is it a loose collection of units from a variety of origins that have gathered together under the banner of a powerful lord?

3) Warlord. All Warbands follow a powerful central figure. We should work out his nature and background. I'd lean towards a daemon prince, as that would be the most visually impressive. However a Tzeentch lord (how uncommon!) or Sorcerer has a lot of potential for story value.

4) Subcommanders. We should also detail a few of the lower level commanders. One or two undivided or tzeentchian heroes, with maybe one hero of each other alignment as well (mercenaries drawn to the slaugnter or the like).

5) History & Rivals. Who has the warband feuded with over its history? What bitter rivalries have grown between its subcommanders, and what are its most hated foes?

6) something rulesy. Unit leanings, maybe an apocalypse datasheet for a formation or 'unit of legend' that matches their background.


Thoughts?

PotatoLegs
27-11-2007, 19:57
Dont you think that the original 9 legions are enought? I dont see the point of made a Chaos Legion, but there's always the two legions that we dont know anything about them.

Sorry, but more than jsut the 9 Legions have turned to Chaos since the HH - the Red Corsairs are the obvious one, being pimped in the latest Chaos 'dex. But beyond that people should be more than welcome to create their own Chaos chapter anyways, as much so as they're able to create their own Marine chapter

starlight
27-11-2007, 20:10
Actually this is already a (somewhat) going concern. The Wastoids started a Chaos counter to The Warseer Battle Barge Chapter. :)

feelnopain666
28-11-2007, 01:19
Sorry, but more than jsut the 9 Legions have turned to Chaos since the HH - the Red Corsairs are the obvious one, being pimped in the latest Chaos 'dex. But beyond that people should be more than welcome to create their own Chaos chapter anyways, as much so as they're able to create their own Marine chapter

:wtf: Do you even know the difference between a legion and a chapter? a chapter is only a fly compare to a single legion. And I dont buy that "legions are gone" crap. If anyone have read the 13 Black Crusade, they know that the Black Legion (just for a example) is in full forçe when the invasion to Cadia ocurred. The only Legion who have fragmented since the Horus heresy where the World Eaters (they are nowadays a bunch of warbands seeking conflit)

PotatoLegs
28-11-2007, 01:33
Legion schmegion- so maybe the OP got his wording wrong, there's still no reason why there couldn't be a Warseer Chaos CHAPTER for the members of this forum to work on. Gives all the people who missed out the first time a chance to give it ago, without having to do SMs again

starlight
28-11-2007, 01:35
As I said, there already *is* :p a Chaos Chapter, it was just started by the Wastoids.

Additionally, the actual Battle Barge is still looking for more members...;)

TheOverlord
28-11-2007, 01:38
Should be nice. I've a Black Legion Fleet waiting to be done when the holidays start running in, wouldn't mind a look on this :D

MuttMan
28-11-2007, 01:43
Why say no to an idea people volunteer for? If someone wants to try, let them. Saying no to it is like telling them they cant walk on the sidewalk.

Let them make a Warseer Chapter/Legion/Whatever. A legion numbers more then 3000 marines or so, right? The Black Templars are essentially a legion, and loyal!

A name would be best voted on if its a community effort. I have a few ideas, like Warpseers or something along those lines. (I know I'm cheap with a P in there)

Make them black, with gray shoulder insets, and sky-blue trim with yellow eyes and insignias. (If it was yellow trim it be too black legion-like) Could go further with gray helmets and such.

Go with it, even if its just you doing it, could inspire others to do it too.

kishvier
28-11-2007, 20:12
Okay well we need a name. Any ideas anyone?
I say Sons of Pain.

MuttMan
28-11-2007, 21:15
Legio:
Warpseer(s?)
Mangle Fists
Gore Maws (Or Goremaws)
Bonecleavers
Insane Pupils (Learning pupil and insane look in their eyes)
Calculated Maniacs
Barren Hearts
Skeletors (couldnt resist)

Keep it commin guys, then we'll vote what is coolest.

kishvier
28-11-2007, 21:19
I like the Warpseers and Bone Cleavers. People keep the names coming!

L192837465
28-11-2007, 22:23
i'm in! i like The Warpseers, personally

black armour, light blue highlights, yellow eyes, boltgun insignia. perfect.

kishvier
28-11-2007, 22:28
Okay, another vote for warpseers (3 votes) to 0 on anything else! Come on people!

EVIL INC
28-11-2007, 22:33
I would like to see someone make a chaos army based on members from here. If someone does, dont forget to do one of me.
I was officially voted "Warmaster of Portent" by the masses a few years ago when Warseer still went by Portent. I am 6'11" and favor close combat weapons and dont really favor any single god. (Also one of the "Warseer bikers" in that I prefer choppers).

kishvier
28-11-2007, 22:50
Okay Evil, you got it! Keep it coming guys!

chaos
28-11-2007, 23:01
the warp claws?

Ordo Ouroboros
28-11-2007, 23:09
The Curor Sanctimonalis (Translated means Order of Gore/blood)?

Tordeck
28-11-2007, 23:31
Warpseers for the win.

EVIL INC
29-11-2007, 00:29
Oh, by the way, I also vote for Warpseers.

kishvier
29-11-2007, 01:21
Thats 5 for warpseers, 1 for Curor Sanctimonalis, and 1 for warp claws. Keep voting!

kishvier
29-11-2007, 20:03
Well if no one else wants to vote then we can just settle it at Warpseers!

Ordo Ouroboros
29-11-2007, 20:07
looks that way

kishvier
29-11-2007, 20:08
Yes it does, I'll give everyone til whenever I get on Friday (I'll be in school til about 2:30). If you want to post an idea or vote, do it fast!

Huoshini
29-11-2007, 20:16
*raises hand*
O O i wanna be in the army!!!!

Lol, anyways- Is it gunnuh be generic marines or we going to go with tzeentch or some other chaos god?

Cirrus the Blue
29-11-2007, 20:20
Okay well we need a name. Any ideas anyone?
I say Sons of Pain.

Ah, that's too easy. I'd say keep the name, but change at least the spelling for "Payne" or something. Makes it sound less blatantly obvious. ;)

I like this idea though and even if it's 'going outside the fluff' to make up a whole new Legion, it's still good fun. It's a good idea to get a theme going though first and formost. I like the idea of the whole blue/black colour scheme for starters, but to keep true to the Warseer logo it'd have to look like a cold and frosty sort of blue if anything. Possibly Nurgle or Tzeentch could go with a suitable background for these. The Legion coming from a seemingly deserted ice planet, perhaps? I've always enjoyed the whole aspect of the 'walking dead' Marines and with either one of those, it would work well enough for them to be all frozen walking corpses or something. Nurgle 'cause they're good as dead anyway, so what do they care? And Tzeentch for the aspects of they can do whatever the hell they want to a corpse to make it sing and dance if they want to! :p

- Cirrus

Cirrus the Blue
29-11-2007, 20:23
You know what? The Warp Seers sounds just great for a title. *thumbs up*

- Cirrus

MuttMan
29-11-2007, 20:37
I like Warpseers the most, I vote for Warpseers.

TheOverlord
29-11-2007, 20:41
Warp seers ftw

vampires are cool!
29-11-2007, 21:01
By (almost) unanimous vote, the name warband has been christened the Warpseers.

So, now for background. As Warseer is made up from the survivors of Portent and has many multiple domain users (people who use lots of wargaming sights) i'd suggest some sort of cataclysmic catastrophe in our past; possibly our original legion was destroyed in some previous action and our new glorious leader has risen from the ashes to lead us to a bright and bloody future.

Subcommanders. If the mods are interested they could fill these rolls.

As Warseer is full of rumours and forecasts for the future (again reinforcing the Tzeentch feel) possibly the legion gets benefits to pre-battle set up or other tactical bonuses.

kishvier
29-11-2007, 21:51
Oaky, it is agreed! We are the Warpseers! Now a color scheme, I like the black with blue trim. Shadow grey for the blue?

Cirrus the Blue
29-11-2007, 21:56
Nah. Shadow Grey is way too dark and not very distinguishably 'blue'. I'd say more like Lightning Blue or closest colour to that for the trim. My opinion though. *shrug*

- Cirrus

L192837465
29-11-2007, 22:16
go too blue and you'll risk looking like night lords

how about like, black with regal blue/enchanted blue highlights on the ridges

Satone
29-11-2007, 22:26
i`ll get in on this, sounds cool, and i have over 60 more csm`s still to build, warpseers is deffo cool name. Not sure about the tzeentch influence on the whole; so what if for the legion undivided and everyone that wants to do something takes a warband to make up the legion, so and so is dedicated to khorne, so and so is dedicated to slaanesh etc...
But keep something like the legion icon that everyone puts on there minis, or something as a rough idea?

malisteen
29-11-2007, 23:04
My proposed background for the Warpseers:

The warpseers warband was formed from the retinue of the Thousands Sons Sorcerer Velaquin Shazzar, one time captain of the Thousand Sons 14th company. After the route from Terra, Velaquin's Battle Barge, The Unfolding escaped into the Eye of Terror along with the rest of the Thousand Sons fleet. But upon reaching the eye, the ship was lost within the torrents of the warp, flung not through space but through time.

12,000 years later, Velaquin's ship finally stabilized and regained contact with what remained of their legion, though only a dozen years had passed for those trapped on The Unfolding. Velaquin was shocked to see what had become of his Legion - the vast majority reduced to mindless shells, his primarch removed, content to rule over a demon-planet of sorcerers and endless, pointless scheming. Apart from the main body of the Legion stood Ahriman's exiles, who were more concerned with their own personal knowledge then with the Legion itself, and who, in any event, had been the cause of the disasterous Rubric to begin with.


Rejecting both of these factions, Velaquin declaired the marines of The Unfolding an independant warpand, and dubbed them the Warpseers. His goal was to gather sorcerous power to himself, with the goal of doing what his primarch would not or could not do: undo the Rubric of Ahriman, and restore those destroyed by it to concious, if not physical life. Since that time Velaquin has been scouring the galaxy for mystical knowledge, while striking what blows he could against the imperium. Along the way he has picked up numerous additional forces, including a few of Ahriman's exile sorcerers who had come to regret what they did to their Legion. These sorcerers have pledged themselves to help Velaquin, and show their sincerity by endlessly polishing, cleaning, and repairing the armor of the Thousand Son automatons under their command.

Velaquin has also gained the services of a traitor inquisitor, Lorianne, who helped lead two entire companies of space marines away from their chapter and into Velaquin's service. In the way of Chaos Warbands Velaquin's Warpseers have also recruited several other bands of chaos marines from a variety of allegiances who have all been drawn to the successes of Velaquinn's banner. Even a group of plague marines under lord of Nurgle have joined with the Warpseers, if only for the chance to spite their mutual enemy, Ahriman. Overall, though, the majority of marines at Velaquin's disposal have no particular alignment to any of the chaos gods. It is only the elder chosen of the Warpseers, the veterans of The Unfolding that are primarily aligned with Tzeentch.


Two particular Rivals dog Velaquin's Warpseers. The first and greatest is Ahriman the Sorcerer, and his forces clash with the Warpseers whenever they encounter one another - typically in pursuit of some rare sorcerous artifact or tome. Velaquin believes that one of his own subcommanders has been subverted by Ahriman and is serving as a spy, but he doesn not know which one it is. He had suspected one of the banished sorcerers who have pledged themselves to him, but in time he came to believe that such a spy would be too obvious, and that someone closer to him is the traitor. For now he pretends not to know that there is a traitor at all, and feeds conflicting information and plans to his various leutennants, hoping that some resulting action from the Sorcerer may reveal the spy's identity.

The second are the zealous marines of the Lodestone Warriors space marine chapter, who were shammed when the inquisitor Lorianne turned their third and fifth companies to chaos and led them into Velaquin's service. They have embarked on a crusade of penance to rid the galaxy of their onetime brothers and the villains who led them astray. Their chapter master, Tallot Maegnus, is driven to slay Lorianne and Velaquin with a passion that boarders on madness.


But the Warpseers also have allies, among them the daemonic entity known as the Eleventh Sign. This mysterious being taught Velaquin dark rituals that could stave off the mutation effects of Tzeentch's influence by shunting them onto a third party, transforming them into a twisted chaos spawn to buy a few months reprieve from Tzeentch's favor. Through this method, Velaquin has been able to keep those chosen who remain from his original company relatively free of crippling mutation. It is said the the Eleventh Sign also gave Velaquin a complex device of xenos origin capable of ripping a whole directly to the immaterium, and it is thought that Velaquin has been charged to use this device in a hidden place, at a pre-ordained time, letting the daemonic forces of the Eleventh Sign into the material universe in repayment of the services that have been rendered to the Warpseers.

It is believed among some circles that the Eleventh Sign is a daemonic servant of Magnus the Red, or possibly may be Magnus the Red himself. Whether this is true, or, if it is true, whether Velaquin Shazzar knows of it, remains a mystery.

kishvier
29-11-2007, 23:53
I like the fluff but we may need to rename some guys to some mods (you know they want it). We still need to agree on a shade of blue though. Keep the ideas coming and fluff is good too!

MuttMan
30-11-2007, 04:48
My vote on the color scheme in detail.

Black armor, Light Blue trim of course, the grey I thought about and having so many bland schemes out there we gotta stand out a bit right? So the gray will be lined with the trim separating the black from the blue. Not like shading but like a military line to make the black seem more bold.

Anyone like the idea? (Since the gray here lines with the black with blue names inside the gray)

adreal
30-11-2007, 10:15
I like the idea, and I would love to join up and hlep out, but I already have my army under way...........so yeah, good luck guys

Reaver83
30-11-2007, 10:30
i think i might dedicate my converted chaos sorcerer to warseer, i'm thinking that mainly black armour with enchanted/ice blue highlights and runes on his armour would perfectly match my world eaters warband... or maybe they'd not kill him if they knew his support!

Ordo Ouroboros
30-11-2007, 12:45
The Ordo Ouroubus may dedicate some Infected Marines to the army, if spare parts allow, a Consumer too

Ddraiglais
30-11-2007, 13:03
There are only 9 legions. You might be able to say 10 with the Red Corsairs since they get fresh recruits all the time and might be as big as a legion.

Now if you guys want to start a renegade chapter, that would be really cool.

MuttMan
30-11-2007, 14:53
Hey if Black Templars can make it to 6k marines, so can any other chapter.

EVIL INC
30-11-2007, 16:11
A few suggestions...
1. Try to keep it to only the chaos players or players who have ties to chaos. For example LatD players, renegade inquisitors, ext ext. This would allow those of us who wish to be represented higher ranking abilities as our "troopers" can be made up of names of members who arent actually chaos.
2. I know the mods would love high titles but Why not treat them as everyone else instead of just giving them high titles? Why not let reguler members who have proven themselves to be loyal to chaos have a chance at rank rather then a mod just becausem of title?
3. We have memebers who favor all the gods or specific ones. I would like to see in the fluff that the overall commander has the ability to unite the different factions so that we can have reps from all four of the biggies.
4. Who will make the army? If someone does, I would like to see pics. =)

Ordo Ouroboros
30-11-2007, 16:13
4. Who will make the army? If someone does, I would like to see pics. =)
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I think we all should, all we need are standard clours for the main army and specialist regiments

kishvier
30-11-2007, 20:16
There are only 9 legions. You might be able to say 10 with the Red Corsairs since they get fresh recruits all the time and might be as big as a legion.

It can be called a legion no matter the size, it is our own preference. Only the loyalists have a crappy system.

I think a good scheme is black with regal blue trim. We can highlight with fortress grey and have their eyes Golden Yellow or Scorpion Green. If anyone will do a test scheme, it would be great. We can also make it kinda like the SM chapter for Warseer but we need to contact some mods/owners to figure it out and get us our own thread spot. This way we can donate a guy or a squad to the legion.

EVIL INC
30-11-2007, 20:34
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I think we all should, all we need are standard clours for the main army and specialist regiments
Ahhh, count me out then unless someone else wants to do me. I was in on the battlebarge thing and someone was kind enough to send me a model to me myself and I lost that along with a LOT of my modeling stuff and other odds and ends in my divorce. I am not really able to participate in that kind of joint effort and am unwilling to accept gifts to participate after the last debacle.
I was just hoping to be included as a model in whoever does it army because I am one of the longest standing members of the community and am really into chaos as well as think I wouldmake a great model (well, I do stand out at 6'11" and in my close combat wepons use (although we dohave a number here who are like me in that respect). That and ofcourse, I am vain enough to want to be "immortalized" in that fashion lol.

Ordo Ouroboros
30-11-2007, 20:39
It can be called a legion no matter the size, it is our own preference. Only the loyalists have a crappy system.

I think a good scheme is black with regal blue trim. We can highlight with fortress grey and have their eyes Golden Yellow or Scorpion Green. If anyone will do a test scheme, it would be great. We can also make it kinda like the SM chapter for Warseer but we need to contact some mods/owners to figure it out and get us our own thread spot. This way we can donate a guy or a squad to the legion.

Bugger let me repost that :)

Ordo Ouroboros
30-11-2007, 20:44
Like this colur scheme?

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=11471

kishvier
30-11-2007, 20:47
Gah! Double post. That looks sweet but I'll leave my other post the same (below).

You guys know we could use the colors as a base. We could then customize our own marines a bit while still keeping our colors. Sorta like black armour with blue trim but our Khrone beserkers can have red helms or have blue shin plates. Unlike the loyalists we have many types of units that are not normal marines (Spawn, Beserkers, thousand sons, DP's, daemons).

Ordo Ouroboros
30-11-2007, 20:50
Yep, my army has a standard colour for basic marines which the thousand sons share. The other named regiments have colours al their own liek the ones at my gallery here

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=11318

kishvier
30-11-2007, 21:00
See, we can do it sorta like the deathwatch and dedicate a shoulder pad to the legion.

Frep
30-11-2007, 21:06
This sounds neat, but why don't you guys set it up like the Warseer chapter, everyone interested donates a marines, tank whatever. That way we could have a counterpoint for the Warseer chapter and give all of you chao loonies a place to put your spikey bits.

Ordo Ouroboros
30-11-2007, 21:07
Okay how about like how I do it then. The main legion has it's own colours and each of us didicate a regiment or commander to the Legion? Say like I give you a legion of Infected Regiment Marines and Void Marines with a shoulderpad bearing the coulours of the Warpseers?

kishvier
30-11-2007, 21:09
We can also make it kinda like the SM chapter for Warseer but we need to contact some mods/owners to figure it out and get us our own thread spot. This way we can donate a guy or a squad to the legion.

That is what I said. Please read the thread dude (Frep as Ordo and I seem to be posting in a web).

kishvier
30-11-2007, 21:11
Lets put it as a model. That way people can afford it.

Ordo Ouroboros
30-11-2007, 21:12
I don't mind a small regiment. Most of my models are converted from second hand scrap anyways :)

blackcherry
30-11-2007, 21:21
Would love to be a part of this. Despite the avatar, I've always been a chaos player, so something like this i kind of have to part of. Just to clarify, any potential alignment can be part of the legion? Only I have always been a big Death Guard/World Eaters (what a contrast, i know) fan and would prefer to have something from that background of allegiance, though of course i would change the paint scheme to resemble the core scheme of the warpseers

ctsteel
30-11-2007, 21:39
Perhaps their name and colour scheme could be based on the original Portent scheme - sort of a homage to the origins of Warseer and a nice counterpoint to the Warseer space marine chapter. Otherwise it becomes 'Warseer marines with spikes'

Background wise that could work too - a chapter who were betrayed by the Administratum or Inquisition or such, and went renegade, their jaded veteran members harbouring angst and bitterness over the loss of their past glories and betrayal by those they served :p

Satone
30-11-2007, 21:43
what about the users individual colour scheme with the shoulder pads done in the colour scheme of the warpseers, that way each persons force whether they be slaanesh, death guard etc can still look the part but with the warpseers shoulder guard? Or if someone else has a suggestion?

EVIL INC
30-11-2007, 22:25
I actually prefer and use the Portent Theme (color scheme) as I cant stand the new one.

Frep
01-12-2007, 01:49
Well I do fell kindof stupid with my earlier post now, but as I understood it earlier it sounded like people would be donating whole squads and the like. So I thought that copying the battle barge would be a good idea, but I guess you guys already have that figured out. Good luck!

ckysam1
01-12-2007, 20:04
name ideas:
betrayers
seers of pain
changers of the warp
soul curses
soul eaters

kishvier
01-12-2007, 20:07
what about the users individual colour scheme with the shoulder pads done in the colour scheme of the warpseers, that way each persons force whether they be slaanesh, death guard etc can still look the part but with the warpseers shoulder guard? Or if someone else has a suggestion?

OMG! Again, that is what I said earlier! Donate a shoulder pad to the legion colors!

And to ckysam1, we already have a name, the Warpseers.

vampires are cool!
01-12-2007, 20:31
Count me in. Lets see... Havok Marine Hill. I can roll with that.

kishvier
01-12-2007, 20:46
Okay, can anyone give us a pic of a painted marine using the scheme? I'll start working on one but I am know to not paint to fast.

vampires are cool!
01-12-2007, 20:48
Love to, but no camera capable of decent shots.

The Orange
01-12-2007, 21:48
Maybe I'm a bit too late, but why not red instead of blue? I'm assuming everyone likes the blue because Warseer has a (ice) blue banner, but they've got a red flaming one too, and since the loyalist WS marines already have the blue, why not go the opposite with red (as proper traitors would).

Off topic: was the old portent color scheme red as well? I though it was but its been so long, I can't even remember :chrome:.

kishvier
01-12-2007, 22:28
Why blue? Well for one the Icy banner but we are only dedicating a shoulder pad or two to the color scheme. Otherwise our beserkers are red and our thousand sons are yellow and blue. I'l going to get to work on the marines but it'll take me forever. Again, if anyone else wants to try they can go ahead!

Grand_Marshal_Kazan
01-12-2007, 23:52
Dont you think that the original 9 legions are enought? I dont see the point of made a Chaos Legion, but there's always the two legions that we dont know anything about them.

I think some Chaos warbands would call themselves a Legion just because they think it is cool/a way to bring fear to their victims/because they are insane to believe it/etc.

kishvier
01-12-2007, 23:58
"Only the insane prosper"-quote from the rulebook

ankara halla
02-12-2007, 00:05
"Only the insane have strength enough to prosper, only those that prosper truly judge what is sane"

kishvier
02-12-2007, 00:11
I was looking for that quote, but couldn't find it.:(
Oh well, I will now become angered at any other traitorous remarks. This may result in angry yells.

Anyways, I seem to lack the correct blue paint so I cannot paint the models. Gah! I hate not having paints!

ankara halla
02-12-2007, 00:22
Heh, it's my favourite quote from 40k all the way back to RT. As corny as it is, I still find a kind of a Zen thing in it.

kishvier
02-12-2007, 00:26
It's my favorite quote too.


For everyone just starting in this here is what we have:

Name: Warpseers
Colors: Black w/ blue trim

The Orange
02-12-2007, 02:10
You should edit your first post and include that info. (Though I still think red trim is a good idea :()

kishvier
02-12-2007, 02:16
Gotcha and I will do it (not the red trim though). The shoulder pads need to be blue trim but your leg trim can be red or anything for that matter if you please.

kishvier
03-12-2007, 19:49
Okay that stuff is done. I have so far painted about 3/4 of a marine in the warpseers colors. I should be finished by tommarow evening (no promises though). Anyone got any new fluff or models to show?

malisteen
03-12-2007, 20:13
Okay that stuff is done. I have so far painted about 3/4 of a marine in the warpseers colors. I should be finished by tommarow evening (no promises though). Anyone got any new fluff or models to show?

So far the only fluff I'm aware of was my draft article back on page two of the thread. Other then the suggestion that we use the names of actual posters and moderators for the characters (which is fine by me, the names I put forward were only placeholders), I don't think there were any comments. I don't know if that means people liked or disliked my suggestions, or just missed them. Mostly it seems people were more interested in getting the color scheme down first.

On that subject, did we decide if the Warpseers were to be all over black w/ blue trim, or just on the shoulder pads?

kishvier
03-12-2007, 20:18
Yep, color scheme is black with blue trim on shoulder pads. That way people can show their full legion colors as well as their normal (like khrone beserkers that have joined the black legion, they still have red helms but the rest is balck legion).

And yes, I think your article was missed by most, though I like it a lot. I would help but sadly:cries: I can not write 40K fluff (or any fluff)(or essays)(or papers).

Ordo Ouroboros
03-12-2007, 20:22
Great. I got an old 1997 chaos marine ans space marine box set I want to put together. I'll dedicate some of the Infected Regiment to the Warpseers cause, in exchange for some a little shared access on the Fluff :)

kishvier
03-12-2007, 20:23
Okay, sure.

kishvier
04-12-2007, 22:22
Oh come on! Is anyone writing up some fluff??!?!?!

Ordo Ouroboros
05-12-2007, 02:10
Okay I'll add you some fluff. Give me till next week :)

MuttMan
05-12-2007, 09:41
I'll toss a draft your way if you want a teaser. Too busy atm to really take on a 17th project at the moment.

17? Dont believe me?
-Fluff for orks
-Orks for new codex, roughly 500 of them to consider
-Chaos still in remaking
-Tyranids being chopped up, tired of them, using them for chaos bits.
-Tanks, every tank... I hate their looks now (dont ask how many)
-Fluff for my new dragon tyranids, serving a nemesis of the Dragon C'Tan.
-Working on my new DIY chapter.
-Working on an old DIY chapter
-Working on another old DIY chapter
Ok done complaining!

Fluff fluff... Where did I leave that hairy moss... Ah here it is!

Warp Seers, or Warpseers? Eh I'll go with just WS acronymised.

"War, eternal bretheren of the warp I deny your escape, serve me until Jormangundr circles your souls with his iron coils! Serve me until the end, the end I make for you."

The weaklings submit to Murdrn the Despised, the detonation collars rub-sores at their throats are a constant reminder of their depression. Nicknamed the Murderer of the Ice, he keeps the watchful eye on his subordinates. Endless days where the sun peeks once every 10 hours on a world where a fixed axis does not exist. Cold wintery weather in one location, sweltering heat a mere hundred miles from the snow. Conditions of rain and hurricane winds whipping broken windows, just another day at the factory. Work until you drop is their motto. Clone factories working full time to make more dispensable warriors, more meat to grind to bone underneath the pillars of smoke bellowing from the factories below. We do not work for ourselves, no, scratch that, we work to be allowed to live. To live under the Seer Legion. We dare not speak the first of their name, our collars record key words within our collars, to prevent any conspiring against our masters. Let it be know though, that deep within our hearts we shall prevail, tonight the table of death we dine with... With... I cannot say it.

Pillars of black smoke and lightening strikes filter the sky, sending electricly-fused ash spikes down wherever the flash of light touched, skewering exposed flesh, as the black fog grinds unprotected longues. The battle commences. The constant flashes in the dark and musk, show silhouettes of dynamic poses. One side always appearing to have lost, blood unseen behind the white streaks that light the sky. The collars could be detonated at any time, at any moment, to why it is not done is left to the mischevious grin of the caretaker. Holding the candle in his hand he pays no attention to pressing the button that would end it all. He knows the outcome already. The victims know now what they face, the horrors hidden within the dark, unseen and unheard behind the howling wind and constant thunder. It lurks like a ending shadow. The Marines of the Warp Seer Legion. Tonight, war is but a slaughtering feast to their delight.

Mighty custom tanks fused together with light heat and ramshackle design, the slaves have managed a few support tanks. They hope that they can win some form of freedom. Little to their knowledge, this scenario has been played out a hundred times before on the very same dirt they stand. Beneath their feet, layers of human bone, weapons and rotting flesh show testament to the harvest. Ramshackle tanks fire up their engines and start pumping out several shells where they hear cries for help. They care not of their own, just that they could possibly kill a shadow or two out of sheer paranoia. Nine shellings until the main gun jams, they hear nothing from where they aimed. A silent moment passes, and then... A sound pirces the sharp howling wind from an impossible distance. Behind them but a second later, a large explosion and a pounding shcokwave hammers their senses. Stunned and half broken, they realise what happened. Their supplies were just hit, in what seemed to be a hidden location. Pondering for a second how the dark clouds could be seen through, they realise.. The dark is of no saftey. They begin to scatter, but its of no use. Following their panic, they hear weird sounds unlike lightening, like popping sounds at a distance. The chills sent up their bodies make them realise, they're dead.

The next morning the weather clears, bodyparts that belong to one person could be found spread hundreds of yards apart. No sign of a battle, just large dents in the surface could be noticed, and some flesh wild animals pick at. One must test new weapons to see their effectiveness in harsh enviroments. Like a kid with a new toy, one must push the button.

Ah I'm done, someone else edit/proofwrite it/continue it.. I dont care about it, just one of many spur of the moment fluffs I do. Enjoy.

kishvier
05-12-2007, 20:00
Okay, cool. Sounds pretty good. For editing the article you spelled lungs wrong. I have an invasion log I'm writing up. I'll incorporate this into it. Still working on it though. Almost got the marine done, sorry it's beeen so slow but at school I have been being pounded into the ground with homework (I still have 4 tests to study for and a huge amount of homework).

kishvier
06-12-2007, 21:32
Okay, well I seem to have beenside tracked in my painting because I always end up painting my lord (he is my avatar though he is now much better):wtf:. If anyone else would like to post pics of painted guys in the colors it is welcomed as my attention span seems to be thin.

kishvier
07-12-2007, 22:12
No one? Oh well. At this point we can see who is with us. If you promise to fight in our name ( just fight for the warpseers, no paintings needed and you keep them unlike the SM chapter on warseer) I will be taking a list.

I pledge my legion, The Sons of Pain to the warpseers and their cause!

Ordo Ouroboros
08-12-2007, 02:25
I pledge the Ordo Ouroborus to the Warpseers and their cause (for as long as it serves the Blessed Matriach)

malisteen
08-12-2007, 17:03
Hrm. Well, I'm already pretty solidly dedicated to the Black Legion, but I could see Abaddon accepting the services of a unit or two of warpseers within his next Black Crusade as a token of their leader's support.

That said, did we ever decide who that leader was? Or where he came from?

Ordo Ouroboros
08-12-2007, 17:40
The Matriach has no love for Abaddon or what she calls "His little acts of piracy" (She is not impressed easily eh?) but she'll work with him should his ideals work with hers. I love the political wranglings of Chaos

kishvier
09-12-2007, 00:21
Okay good but we still need more marines to defeat the emperor.

TheOverlord
09-12-2007, 04:40
Though our loyalty is only to Horus and our Warmaster Abbadon, the Oath Breakers of the 14th fleet of the Black Legion shall fight for you.

The fires and smog of a thousand thousand worlds shall be our prayer to the Dark Gods, and our blades and guns instrument of Abbadon's wrath on the weakling Imperium.

LET IT BURN! THERE ARE NO ROOM FOR DISBELIEVERS AND HERETICS OF THE FALSE EMPEROR!

MuttMan
09-12-2007, 07:46
Sorry I wont add any more, just like helping forum-led legions. Here's my fluff, and mind you I havent touched it in years. (Or even properly proof-written it either)

Use any of it if you desire. (Odds are I'll never see any of you guys using it so I dont care)

Last Scream Legion

The legion prides itself that of not traitors, but of harbringers of chaos. Proclaiming chaos 'enlightenment' should be spread across the stars to all races. This at the cost of the very lives of the released mortals. Crusading to bury all that is mortal in place of daemonic energies and expanding their territory rapidly every year. Those befallen by a member or daemon of the Last Scream Legion is dealt in two ways. Worthy opponents are hurled into limbo, with but one daemon assigned to accompany the slain. With the intent to turn and twist the mind to their cause, the daemon in the silence of limbo, will constantly bombard this warrior slowly chipping at their mind. Until one day releasing their old attachments to join the Last Scream Legion. This being done, they are to be bonded with the daemon in a partnership unlike any other. In return for souls to fuel the daemon symbiot, immortality, regeneration even reincarnation. Failure to supply sufficiant souls, will result in a possession where the daemon becomes master. Upon death, insufficiant soul power will have the daemon to devour the soul of the unworthy, awaiting another in Limbo to turn. Turned warriors and reincarnated worthy are summoned from long rituals with enough power to sustain it.

However, the warrior has a choice, they may abandon the daemon in return to service an even greater power, one of the four chaos gods. Doing so bans the tortured soul from any daemonic service, but in return, reincarnation in a fully daemonic form chosen by their patron. The more powerful the warrior, the greater the daemon it becomes. Souls gathered by these individuals are flung into the maws of their master instead of gathering for a daemon.

Only the greatest of daemons in Limbo pick the hardiest of warriors to corrupt, thus, returning as full fledged Daemon Princes.

Corruption isnt a choice, its enevitability.

Last Scream Legion chose their name with the many phases of Last Screams they undertake. First, initiation, the loss of their soul, screaming as its purities are cleansed by chaos. Second, the last screams of souls gathered by the legionnaire. Third, their own final scream as they depart the material universe to become part of the warp once more. Only the true worthy can come back to render more final screams, and only the deadliest continue to erect infinate screams.

Spare time leisure and play include contests of who can make their prisoner scream the loudest before dying. Sparing their life for hours before turning them into a lifeless husk of ripped, beaten and mutilated flesh. Turning to join the Last Scream Legion is not a choice given in life, but through death. The unworthy are souls to fuel their daemons and masters after all.

Unwanted followers, fearful of their elders, hopes of becoming worthy before death . Follow and are carelessly used as fodder, frontline assault and general substance of their nurishment. Meat, pleasure and soul. These pardened souls are not allowed to serve their masters patrons, to have them fight on the same level as they would be an insult. Insult worthy of death in the most horrible manner. These whom take up regimental formations and doctrines of Imperial Guard, properly named Nemesis Guard.

Nemisis Guard wish to please their Elder Leggionaires, supplies, gifts and surplus in not uncommon for a Leggionaire. Such gifts mean little to a lost soul bound to the warp. Nemisis Guard are always at the point of the common joke among Leggionaires, such is the fate of their belittled servants. Their true test lies after their Last Scream.

Armour of the Last Scream Legion, riddled with faces constantly shifting asking for release by their captors adversaries. Screaming at their delight, as their master ask their daemonhost to torture them endlessly during combat to achieve this chorus of cries.
Battlecry:"Crimson with blood, shifting faces of torment, forever our souls may scream, for the Last Scream Legion!" (endless screams echo through the army in waves of torment heard miles around)

Cult Last Scream Leggionaires, drawn to a god, to save themselves of their damnation from their daemonhost, by lack of choice, or pure desire to please the wanted patron. Each cult have their own screams and battlecries, in league with their legion.

Khorne Battlecry:"Blood must flow! Skulls to reap! Make them scream!"
Slaanesh Battlecry:"Scream for us, scream, SCREAM" (Warp scream follows the second scream)
Nurgle Battlecry:"Die, let us hear you fade, our father awaits you!"
Tzeentch Battlecry: (Their cry is psychic, personal message tailored for each individual enemy)

Some make pacts as deep as a cult of 3 or more, crew of a daemonicly possessed vehicle. This vehicle is harder to run, under one great and powerful daemon. More souls can be reaped, at a higher chance of ressurection or being devoured. All vehicles save transports are mutated in some way being possessed by a host. The more powerful the daemon, the tougher and stronger the vehicle. Others refusing to leave their mortal coil sustained inside a dreadnought sarcophogas rely on their personal daemon. The power and rage of these beasts are legendary, and often mistaklingly slay legends to retain power. The more powerful the dreadnought, the bigger it becomes, and more stable. Until finally aquiring the souls needed to be upgraded to a Defiler.

Last Scream Legion cares not who dies, not even their brother is worthy when their daemon hunger.
This force is not made of traitors. But of the fallen, a great enemy of the warp that is truely inhuman. Any worthy soul may be turned into a humanoid in service to the Last Scream Legion. Your soul will be next.

LSL Jokes:

"Haha, see how that one screamed, I bet former brother Tarufus' daemon will make that one it's *****"

"Nemesis Guard? I thought your designation was Target Practice these past hundred years!"

Homeworld: Reiza (Former Imperial World Araban II)
Climate: Breathable, Wasteland

History

Araban located upon the fringe of chaos space near the eye of terror was garrisoned by the Cadian 102nd Regiment. Global defences were erected on this Jungle world within 2 decades and a sizeble colony of 17 million laid bed. Chaos ascended upon this planet in the 12th black crusade for one purpose. An artifact containing unique warp powers landed here some ten thousand years ago saught by Ahriman. He attained this artefact before a shot fired, and his rituals began. He casted his dark spell over a course of 5 days, those 5 days were to be the bloodiest of fights until the start of the failure. Ahriman casted his spell successfully, but to his faulter, he was not powerful enough to contain the spell and it broke loose. The warp energies contained in the artifact unleashed a massive ball of dark energy. This dark energy almost weightless pulls anything it touches inside, bouncing slowly across the jungle leaving bare pits where it lands. After that, strange occurances of trees, debree and corpses of the Cadian 102nd regiment found scattered across space. The ball of dark energy is found to be a one-way portal. This portal started to multiply every time it consumed enough matter and sent it across space. Ahriman left, knowing his plans are no longer viable, the portals continued to bounce freely among the planet. Almost nothing remains today, and decendants of the colony remain in cave system. Abandoned by the imperium in 998M40 as there were no planetary defences and chaos threat nearby, the defence line was repositioned elsewhere. Decaying atmosphere, a planet surface miles beneath of what it used to be, and few water reserves it is now a wasteland of pitted holes.

Dark Portal Research.

Research while I was upon Araban is based on actual events, and linked to matter found among the galaxy. I have elected to enter one of these portals with a ship, in fact because I was stranded when most of the planet was evacuated. The ship was thankfully supported, but ripped in half for the portal wasent large enough, my calculations were off. We dealt with the tragedy of leaving half our ship behind. I will start with what I know then turn into speculation.

These portals vary in size, smaller portals are the youngest, roughly 1% differance from their 'parent' portal. Being that these portals re-produce everytime it has consumed enough mass, about twice the portals size in mass must be accumilated. The density of these portals is close to mist like, so if 22% of its mass has been consumed from one side, it will go the opposite direction. The exits to these portals are one-way, seeing that planet debree was found among other planets the exit has collided with. Average diameter is 50-80 feet, the largest portal is called Darkmother. As portals collide they dissapear until they've passed through eachother. Passive until contact is released. I have witnessed if touching two portals, the matter will be split in half by the pulling forces of both portals. There is an estimated 9 billion portals roaming Araban.

Speculation of portals, I believe portals change exit points when they collide. The same portals the dirt and material similar have been found among differant systems from samples that were mere feet of each bounce after a collision. The larger the portals that collide, the further the distance of the exit is thrown. I also believe that the exits are attracted to other starsystems because the percent rate of my ship being so close to a system passing through a portal is near to nothing.

Orbit of Araban around its sun is at a decaying rate. The mass can no longer keep the orbit, and will be on terminal orbit in about two thousand years. I can only hope the portals will be destroyed when the planet enters the sun. If not, it could mean a decaying sun rate one trillion the rate of its normal decay, and hot sunspouts torching planets across the galaxy. The sun will be turned into a black hole, and if portals submit such torturous power, I believe a new Eye will be made that will rival the Eye of Terror.

Last Scream Legion History.

The legion appeared in 741M37 marauding munitions ships near Agripinaa Forge World. Boarding actions stealing whole ships, thunderhawk shipments and whole regiment munitions. Raiding increased as attacks on planet systems grew to invasion scales.

kishvier
09-12-2007, 20:06
Wow, thats amazing. I wish I had that kind of a attention span to write something like that! Keep it coming guys!