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Bregalad
29-11-2007, 22:05
Hi,
I want to dedicate this thread to unusual ideas of how to use non-tabletop toys successfully in 40k games, be it as terrain, vehicles or anything else.

As a start, I will show you an example that I found today while walking through a toy store. It is a Harry Potter playset called "Hogwart's Great Hall" (see pics below). It is a huge Gothic building with a 18x10" (45x26cm) base and a rooftop height of 13"/33cm. Doors and windows are scale-unspecific, but obviously too small for the Harry Potter action figures, perfectly fitting for 28mm. The hall is huge, but usable for big cities (full CoD tables or Apocalypse games). If you can't paint, it even is somewhat precoloured. It even has inner details.

What do you think of this one? What other toys have you reinterpreted for 40k games?

TheOverlord
29-11-2007, 22:08
If those toys are to scale as you have mentioned, with a bit of fiddling, breaking down, rebuilding and a good coat of repainting, they would look absolutely at home in 40k.

I have heard that the toy lightsabres that you can purchase from Toys'r'Us are excellent bases for a Laser Defense Turret.

The Song of Spears
29-11-2007, 22:16
I think Todd McFarlane makes a orc-thing that makes a great pre-painted squiggoth. Too back i forget the name of the toy...

Bregalad
29-11-2007, 22:33
Yes, right. Spawn figures are legendary for uses in 40k games. You are talking of Grey Thunder (pic 1). I also own this Vandalizer as generic big demon (pic 2).

That reminds me of another classic:
Making Ork Stompas (pic 3) out of Potato heads (pic 4+5)!
See this thread:
http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26233&st=0

squadiee
29-11-2007, 22:40
I'm currently trying to convert a eurofighter model and a tornado model into 2 "counts as" thunderbolts(stick a couple of Auotcannon barrels, a lascannon on each wingtip, sorted) and by converting either a lancaster (with jet engines attached) or a vulcan to make a marauder. When done, they should work nicely ;)

Malorian
29-11-2007, 22:41
I think they have their place in the game where an actual model isn't provided (FW doesn't count), but I'm not a fan of people using toys to count as things that do exsist (like a toy tank for a pred)

Khorghan
29-11-2007, 22:42
the harry potter building would definatly work in 40k, good eye

ive seen someone use a plastic baby elephant toy and but a imperial guard riding it and make sort of a baggage carrier thing

SquishySquig
29-11-2007, 22:42
:skull: Well being an ork player I'm kinda used to using toys. GI Joe has been the basis for a couple of vehicles as well as lego components and my Rhino from M.A.S.K. which I'll probably end up using as a skullhammer. My stompa which I have just built uses GI joe bits in it's infrastructure, but they're not too visible anymore. I'll post pics of that after I get it painted.

Here's some pivs of some stuff I've done:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c160/SquishySquig/ardwagonleft.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c160/SquishySquig/bassifront.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c160/SquishySquig/waaaghmachineleft.jpg

LususNaturae
29-11-2007, 22:43
three words:

barbie dream house

My friends and I got a good kick from the image of ten necrons jamed into an elevator, standing silently as crappy elevator music played.

squadiee
29-11-2007, 22:49
I really want to try that now. LMAO at the 'crons in the elevator.

Guardsmen frantically pressing the ground floor button while taking the stairs up, can just see that

Latro_
29-11-2007, 23:03
I used to use a flock of old toy animals as mobile terrain.
like random sheep, cows etc all in one flock.

move 2d6 in a random direction each turn cus of the gun fire.
used the old grot cover rule if firing at an enemy past them.

fengor
29-11-2007, 23:05
now that sounds interesting. in what edition/book can i find that grot cover rule? i might jsut introduce this idea to our gaming group ;)

starlight
29-11-2007, 23:10
3rd Ed Codex: Orks (actually the one out for a couple more months) :)

Latro_
29-11-2007, 23:13
Its simple enough, X grot unit Y

if Y fires at X who are behind the grots (sheep, cows whathaveyou) rolls to wound as normal, on a 5+ an animal is removed instead of a member of X.

it added quite a qwerky aspect to games that didnt mess around too much with the rules.

SquishySquig
29-11-2007, 23:26
:skull: I really like the moving cover save idea. :skull:

Shortseer
30-11-2007, 04:31
I gave one of these

http://www.collectiondx.com/node/196

to my friend to turn into a Stompa, he is quite happy

sukigod
30-11-2007, 14:35
I'm always on the lookout at our local thrift stores, toy departments and garage sales for toys for terrain. Some Hot Wheels scale "city" playsets make great building starters for indutrial and factory settings. I've got an entire craggy valley table set up using the parts from a childrens (like Little Tykes style) train set that's been re-painted.

That Harry Potter Cathedral looks incredibly cool and easy to "convert" to 40K for a cityboard. I'll have to lok for one (or two) of those online. Great find!

gingie
30-11-2007, 14:43
i used a toy dinosaur as a mount for my kroot master shaper. the scale is good but there's somthing that just doesnt look right about it

Darnok
30-11-2007, 14:55
I play Orks, and every now and then I stumble across toys that make nice bases for "Ork toys". For example, the model of a Star Wars AT-TE (the sixlegged bugger from Episode II) was a great start for a walker/tank thing. Also model planes make a great start for Fightas and Bommers.

I also use two toy animals (a bear and an ox) as the basis for Ogre stuff, more precisly a selfmade Scraplauncher and a Rhinoxrider (riding... a bear). It fits quite well.

reds8n
30-11-2007, 15:06
Yes, right. Spawn figures are legendary for uses in 40k games.



QFT. My Basilisks use arms and heads from the Violator and Vandilizer figures.I'm going to use the rest of the body and some left over tyranid bits to make a large chaos spawn type thing.:skull:

Stormhammers
30-11-2007, 15:13
I use a number of toys in my guard army. Tanks for army men make a great base for vehicles, also wal-mart had some $5, 1:48 scale tanks, humvees and the like, they work great as well. As for terrain, most deffinately use toys. I made a Ork fortress out of some corrugated cardboard and some TMNT weapons (some of the guns they had in that line are very...orkish)

Zorz Muaddieb
30-11-2007, 15:16
I still have my Shogun Warriors. 20+ inches of mecha goodness. :) Using them as titan stand ins.

http://wildtoys.com/shogun/ShogJumbo/raydeen.asp

and

http://wildtoys.com/shogun/ShogJumbo/gaiking.asp

-Z

Penitent
30-11-2007, 15:20
This reminds me of a White Dwarf way, way back in the day, where they took Star Wars AT-ST walkers, and converted them into 40k Titans, one imperial, one chaos. They looked great.

Sholto
30-11-2007, 15:21
Anyone tried a Robosapien as an Orky Stompa? Bonus feature - it will literally stomp your minis ;)

Sholto

Ordo Ouroboros
30-11-2007, 15:24
SOme good scale tanks for Imperial armies at my dollar store I am tempted to convert. Although not the same I am also converting two Wyrd Minitures for my chaos army too

Easy E
30-11-2007, 15:41
Back in RT, using toys was practically required.

I've used all sorts of old SW and G.I. Joe stuff at some point.

IN more recent times, I have only used toy Dinos for my Feral Orks. You have to convert and repaint them to help them fit in.

srg.cutter
30-11-2007, 16:22
anything and i mean anything can be used to make ork vehicles. but i find some toy cars can be remodeled to give city terrain that extra layer of realism

Wyatt
30-11-2007, 16:31
I use Corps! toys as scenery and stuff.

Things like the mortars, crates, and even bunkers and walls, look good in 40k.

This is a cruddy image and shows my poorly painted army I got off eBay and my awful scratch builds, but you can see the mortars and walls I think.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/dudemaster/tank2.png

Da Reddaneks
30-11-2007, 16:54
The master of toys in 40K is, in my opinion, one of our regular ork contrubutors Irondog! Not trying to steal his thunder but i am posting pics of his stuff. His stuff is really impressive, while highly converted and using GW parts, mostly comes from toys-r-rus or walmart.

Irondog is a mad mek!

SKORTCHA (http://www.irondogstudios.com/images/skorcha.jpg)

WARTRUCK (http://www.irondogstudios.com/images/trukk.jpg)

ROCKET BUGGIES (http://www.irondogstudios.com/images/rokkittrakk.jpg)

DA BIG TRUCK (http://www.irondogstudios.com/images/bw1/mek_bw1.html)

THE AMAZING 'TATER TITAN'! (http://www.irondogstudios.com/images/tater/mek_tater.html)

MEKS SHOP (http://www.irondogstudios.com/images/mekshop/mek_mekshop.html)

DEFF COPTERZ (http://www.irondogstudios.com/images/vommitkommitz/mek_vommit.html)

Ordo Ouroboros
30-11-2007, 17:02
I used an old games workshop glue pot for an exorcist launncher

Sholto
30-11-2007, 17:14
Irondog is a mad mek!
Great stuff, and it shows you why everyone should have a few boxes of Robogear stuff in their conversion shed :)

Sholto

emperorpenguin
30-11-2007, 17:53
there was a guy at Conflict Bristol 2003 who used toy rhinoceros as his Space Marine "rhinos" and a sabre-tooth cat as his "predator", complete with weapons strapped to its back......

misterboff
30-11-2007, 18:02
That reminds me of another classic:
Making Ork Stompas (pic 3) out of Potato heads (pic 4+5)!

Glad you like it!

It didn't cost too much to make. Mr Potato Head (Optimash Prime from pic 4) cost £10, the armour plates are cereal box card, and the Deth Kannon is the tube of a highlighter pen (4 for 57p!). Everything else was from my bitz box. I think it probably took about 4/5 hours from start to finish to build and paint.

misterboff

Forlorn
30-11-2007, 18:42
I will be using 1:48 F-4 Phantoms as IG Fighters.

Bellygrub
30-11-2007, 18:52
I have this old McFarlane Lizadon thing that's been awaiting some conversion work. Here he is in a crappy picture next to my FW mini Squiggoth.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/WarBossGrash/Good%20Orks/SquiggothCompare.jpg

Meriwether
30-11-2007, 19:21
I have three Jurassic Park T-Rex that I use for squiggoths. I scratch-built howdahs for them, and each can hold a full 20 orks. My brother hates them with a passion -- I love 'em!

The last paint pot tops are great for making rocket-style engines as well as killa kans when you glue two together. Just as well -- they sucked for preserving paint!

My ork trucks and battlewagons are a combination of the old 'gubbinz bags', calculator covers left behind by students at the end of the year, and bits of toy trucks, tanks, cars, etc.

I have an orky dreadnought with four spider legs, two big claws and a scorpion tail I hocked from a 'scorpion robot'. The other four legs are on the back of a battlewagon.

Most of my terrain is made from junk, not toys... But I'm always on the lookout! I almost bought a really terrific 'haunted house' at a garage sale last year -- it was just about 38mm scale -- but they were asking a bit more than I really wanted to spend.

Cheers,

Meri

Ordo Ouroboros
30-11-2007, 19:24
I would love to convert these into Demonic mounts for the four aspects of my Chaos army

http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=478085&ppid=1122&image=81220973&images=81220973,81220976,81220983,81220991,8122099 6&formats=0,0,0,0,0&format=0

or more like these

http://cgi.ebay.com/MCFARLANE-DRAGONS-SER-6-FALL-OF-DRAGON-KINGDOM-SET-OF-4_W0QQitemZ120188037017QQihZ002QQcategoryZ348QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

VanHel
30-11-2007, 19:40
If I ever do an ork army I am so making a stompa mob out of Mr. Potatoheads.

Bregalad
30-11-2007, 19:56
This is becoming a really productive thread! I like it :)

Star Wars merchandise is another great source for 40k. Here some examples:
1.) The Millenium Falcon playset as generic space ship on a space port, also the Death Star playset (doubles as Necron terrain ;)).
2.) The Star Wars miniature range, esp. the AT-AT (Titan proxy) and AT-ST (Sentinel), but all the minis can be used, as civilians, as Tau allies, as monsters or mission markers. Just browse through their galleries: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/products .
3.) I use a big Sandcrawler as mobile Kroot base and the big MTT playset as big Tau Earth Caste transporters (terrain, mission markers)
4.) All Action fleet has about the same scale, so have a look. I like Luke's Speeder and the Droid Escape Drop Pod!
5.) Pod racers in different scales are perfect to loot!

Alien Queens in different scales make nice Tyranids , esp. Biotitans.
And the big Star Trek Borg Cube would make a fine Necron base!
Some dragon toys are sold in big alien eggs -> Tyranid drop pod or mission marker!

ObiWan
30-11-2007, 20:03
I've also seen Banthas used as G. Squiggoths. Hairy but I liked them :p

dugaal
30-11-2007, 20:04
Orks and gi-joes are a good match; I only had a couple things and sadly they all got tossed a few years ago, including one of these (http://www.gijoepit.com/images/specs/173301s1.jpg), the tracks would have been a great start to a battlewagon
also made this from some toy truck,
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/Stevix/orks/sale/Buggy.jpg

RexTalon
30-11-2007, 20:41
THE AMAZING 'TATER TITAN'! (http://www.irondogstudios.com/images/tater/mek_tater.html)

THE BOWLER HAT FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

That is the most awesome thing I have ever seen.

floyd pinkerton
30-11-2007, 21:00
oh my, that's a Mr. potato head converted into a gargant:wtf::D

Templar Ben
30-11-2007, 23:44
three words:

barbie dream house

My friends and I got a good kick from the image of ten necrons jamed into an elevator, standing silently as crappy elevator music played.

You are not the only one that thought that.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/images/1124-02.jpg

Eulenspiegel
01-12-2007, 00:38
I´m wondering if that potato head with the bowler can be made broadcasting "singing in the rain" .... ;)

Anyway, whenever I remember it, I always take a detour through the toys department, to check if there´s something my Imperial Guard or my Orks (I have lesser hopes for my Blood Angels) can use.
Toys are great. Most of the time almost as good "sculpted" as GW products, easily convertible and not even half as expensive.

soul destroyer
01-12-2007, 01:54
Loads of great ideas! if only I had an orc army.....
I am currently converting a jedi starfighter (Ertl easy kit) into a chaos hell talon. I also have an imperial star destoryer kit waiting for some serious butchery into some sort of epic scale IG drop ship or something.

Stormhammers
01-12-2007, 09:23
That ork stompa from the potatohead is amazing, almost want to go out and make one...dont even play orks. I actually just bought up another set army men (with tanks) as well a contruction playset, it comes with a few trucks that are just the right size for my IG.

Dragonlv8
01-12-2007, 10:46
http://www.wizards.com/global/images/swminis_article_ATATannouncement_pic1_en.jpg

I have to get some of this stuf, make my own Titan thingy :p

Stormhammers
01-12-2007, 10:55
here is a pic I think you will like involving your AT-AT titan project. Oh, and what makes my tanks and trucks even sweeter? they were only $1.50 each bag (2 tanks in one, 3 trucks in the other)

Bregalad
01-12-2007, 15:29
Here some suggestions for the not so feeble minded and people with fantasy:

1.) Playmobile trees (see pic 1-5). They are big (20-35cm, 8-14"), cheap, precoloured and gamer proof (ever seen what average gamers do to delicate CoD buildings ?:rolleyes:) . I prefer them to model railroad trees.

2.) Lego and Mega Bloks
a.) Exo-Force set with "Warp gate" and some Tau buildings and walls (pic 6)
b.) Mega Bloks set of a dam (pic 7)
c.) Bionicles (pic 8-10) (Bionicle Eldar thread: http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52301)

Logarithm Udgaur
01-12-2007, 16:38
I have to agree that legos are some of the most useful things in the world for terrain building, they can even make destructible buildings.
I have made a Steg 4 for my Blood Pact from an old Corgi toy (currently waiting for two more in the mail).
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q212/mr_gask/DSCI0266700.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q212/mr_gask/DSCI0265smaler.jpg
I am also working on converting an old Tootsie M-8 into a N-70 using tracks from a Gi Joe vehicle.
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q212/mr_gask/DSCI0291.jpg

Bregalad
06-11-2008, 11:12
The recent Wall.E movie justifies an update to this thread:
1.) The Wall.E truck playset has the right size and feeling, about 50cm length, both for Imperial and Ork stuff. Want an Ork superheavy? (pic 1-4)
2.) The big Wall.E might be the basis for an alternative Ork Stompa (pic 5)
3.) With some painting and conversion, you get a fine terrain from the Axiom Station playset. (pic 6).
What do you think?

Also have a look at trees from Schleich:
1.) Baobab tree with good size (height 26cm), alien look and good LOS blockage (pic 7)
2.) Acacia (34cm high, 40cm wide) (pic 8)
3.) Cactus (pic3)
4.) Normal decidious tree (34cm high) (pic10)
All prepainted of course. I esp. like the Baobad and the Acacia.

Jellicoe
06-11-2008, 21:46
A mate of mine and I converted one of these

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3063/2387640451_3241fe1564.jpg?v=0

for use in a Rogue Trader game which would these days be classed as apocalypse scale. We used the jugger rules and allowed targeting of individual turrets tracks etc as well as having a floor plan for boarding actions. Extra pieces used in the conversion included a 1/35th Royal Tiger turret, some 1/72nd M47 turrets and half of a lunar landing module

it was ace

FeetOfClay
06-11-2008, 22:33
I have to agree with Bregalad, for fantasy, lego and playmobil are perfect. Lego is a similar scale (IIRC), so the weapons, despite being a bit boring, work fine, and the playmobil pirate ship? Makes an awesome empire man-o'-war with some sanding, hell, it can probably fit a dozen cannons on the top deck alone!

Rutteger1
07-11-2008, 01:45
i dont like toys for models... it just doesn't fit the game =(
BUT! in my opinion, anything can be terrain! I wanna play with a barbie as like, a tower =D A giant person maybe. LOL! OH NO BARBIE LOOK OUT!!! ITS A LAND RAIDER!! "AHHHHHH!!" Barbie explodes. Even the 2+ invulnerable of the gigantic barbie monster can't withstand a lascannon.

Jellicoe
07-11-2008, 12:36
Also used one of these as air support/ground attack in a variety of guises

Buck Rogers is ace

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/BUCK%20ROGERS%20STARRFIGHTER%20PAGE.htm

TheBigBadWolf
07-11-2008, 13:35
Ive always thought a MiG 15 model kit could easily be converted into an ork fighta bomber.

That Mr potato head conversion is brilliant :D

EVIL INC
07-11-2008, 14:46
I have to say that the one thing in this thread that has impressed me the most is the potato stompa. All others pale in comparison.