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Sholto
03-12-2007, 12:47
Making a complete Chaos/ Khornate conversion of the Baneblade, with a Titan thrown in for good measure. Oh yes - my attempt at a Titan Baneblade!

(EDIT: see post of 9 Dec for concept pics)

Although I have an army of over 5000 points, this is my first ever kit assembly. Not for nothing is my army known and feared as the Chaos Horde of Ebay. As my Khorne Lord Nauzagedyn of Purgatio says,
http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/avatar.gif
"The sweat of others is the greatest sweat of all!"

Ick, frankly, but that's what he says, and it makes a change from, "BLOOD, BLOOD, BLOOD!" I can tell you.

Given such lack of experience, it either shows an unrealistic and nave ambition on my part or a level-headed desire to work with very large and forgiving pieces that I chose the Baneblade.

But – I am not going to make it easy on myself – no, anyone with opposable thumbs, an iota of post-Cambrian evolution and a non-vegetative mental state can put a kit together! (Dammit, I just ruled myself out!) No – I am not only going to fully magnetise this mother, I am going to Chaos-ify it to the Eye and back. Indeed, as my Khorne Lord says,
http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/avatar.gif
"BLOOD!"

Good. He's back to his old self, again. Moving on.

I started by reading a few reviews of the Baneblade kit and building guides, and here they are, in no particular order:-

1. http://www.angrybluebird.net/LostGamers/viewtopic.php?t=175

2. http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/index.php?showtopic=9205

3. http://warseer.com/forums//showthread.php?p=2056040

4. http://warseer.com/forums/m-p-t-general-discussion/107860-baneblade-kit-review.html

as well as a couple of excellent magnetising guides:-

1. http://www.40konline.com/mos/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=861&topic=147391.msg1784717

2. http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108170 This is the one I followed.

I also went to The Wookie Hole - http://wookiehole.com/ - and ordered some spare side armour panels and top track plates so I could configure the tank without sponsons for AV14. (However, I see that the Wookie Hole don't distinguish (or don't realise there is a difference) between left and right versions of these plates, so you might want to wait and order once they have twigged to this. I have emailed them.)

Moving on.

A poor workman blames his tools. A good workman surpasses his. A mediocre workman collects them like a squirrel in a nut factory and pretends they make him better than he really is. I have lots and lots of tools…

These are the ones I used:-

• Side cutters. Indispensible. I got mine from Maplin.

• Rocket Max superglue, with fine applicator tip. Superb stuff. Stays where you put it, bonds in <10 seconds and fills any minor fitting gaps. I got mine from Antenociti's Workshop. I cannot imagine trying this build with GW's excuse for superglue. You can get the fine applicator tips on Ebay – ten for 1. Search for "non clog applicator tips micro precision cyano glue"

• Needle files. For smoothing out the pieces after they are cut from the sprue. Maplin again.

• Long nose pliers. From Maplin. Indispensible for precision lifting and placing duties, general grabbing and holding as well as snapping off tiny bits of plasticard. The only things you can't use them with are:-

• Supermagnets. 3mm x 1.5mm. I got 50 for 3 from Ebay. Use a toothpick with a tiny bit of bluetack on the end to move these guys about. See the pic below - more on that later.

• A Spot Face Cutter. A what? One of these:-
http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/CIMG1917.jpg
It cuts smooth holes in plastic in the blink of an eye, and the diameter just happens to be 4mm, making it perfect for putting my magnets in! I used to make headphone amps and condensers, so I have loads of this kind of thing lying around. I got this one from Maplin. A pin-vice or a Dremel will do just as well, although the Dremel might melt the plastic if you raise the speed too high.

Sholto
03-12-2007, 12:54
1. The kit itself.

There are enough kit reviews. Suffice to say I was hugely impressed with the kit quality. How good is it? Take a look at this picture:-
http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/Redline.jpg
The red lines show where I have NOT glued the model yet. It holds itself together through tight fitting parts made to very close tolerances. And, yes, I can pick it up and move it around and it stays in one piece.

2. Best advice.

Take it slow. Dry fit everything and think the next step or two through before applying glue to anything. I am a complete novice and, so far, this approach has worked for me.

Also, as you can see from the picture above, do not glue what you don't have to. You never know when you might need to take something apart, especially if you are planning on converting it.

3. Magnetising.

Supermagnets are cool. I have a primal urge to buy more of these things, in bigger sizes, and play with them until something breaks!

Top tip for magnetising is to use a permanent marker to colour one end of the magnet you are working on. If you always colour the same way, you ensure that the black sides stick to the non-black sides all over your model = maximum flexibility for moving parts around.
http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/CIMG1913.jpg
Use a toothpick with some bluetack to manoeuvre these guys around. Metal tweezers are an obvious no-no. If you try and use plastic tweezers you risk the superglue sticking to them as well. Go lo-tech!

An alternative to sticking magnets to magnets would be to use magnets on one side and adhesive backed "steel paper" on the other. This paper is ferrous, and can be cut with scissors. I have some steel paper, so will give this a try and see how strong the bond is.

UPDATE EDIT (7 Dec): Steel paper is useless for this purpose. Even 6mm magnets barely stick to it. Handy for pinning notes to boards, but no use for modelling.

For magnetising the side armour panels, my magnets were too thick to fit into the square recess on the top of the track housing. As you can see in the picture of the Spot Face Cutter above, I simply cut right through this square recess. Then I glued some tiny bits of plasticard on the underside of the holes:-
http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/CIMG1918.jpg
And stuck the magnet on top of that:-
http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/CIMG1919.jpg
You will see the black pen marks, showing me which way round this magnet is to go. Always test its polarity against another magnet before you mark it, and always mark it before you glue it!

Sholto
03-12-2007, 13:02
Once you've done those it's time for the side armour panels. Note that I could not get these to fit on without cutting off the two rectangular extrusions on the inner face of each panel. You can see where I have clipped these off (with the side cutters) and sanded the remainder flush:-
http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/CIMG1928.jpg
Actually gluing the side armour panel to the top armour panel (making the "L" shape you see above) was the trickiest bit, I found. If you glue them in place on the tank, you risk the glue squeezing out of the joint and gluing your armour panels to your Baneblade – exactly the opposite of what you want to happen! On the other hand, if you glue them together by themselves, how will you know if you have the angle right? How will you know if they will fit on the tank?

My solution was to combine these two approaches. I put a very fine glue line on the larger of the two pieces and pressed them together carefully on the table top. Then I quickly transferred them to the right place on the track guard and made sure they were in place before the glue set up, thus ensuring both pieces were flush. Only once did the glue squeeze out of the joint and try and bond with the main body of the tank, but I caught it and broke the joint with a tiny amount of pressure before it set too hard.

And there we are – swappable sponsons and side plates with internally swappable heavy bolter and heavy flamers:-
http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/CIMG1936.jpg
http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/CIMG1937.jpg
The top section is, of course, not glued down yet! It is not quite a perfect fit as you can see at the front. There is a gap of a millimetre. Easily taken care of at the gluing stage, but worth noting. No kit is perfect.

My spare side panels have not yet arrived from The Wookie Hole, but I will do the same to them when they turn up. I will also order their sponson and turret kits (20 for a set of two sponson & turrets – cheaper than buying another Baneblade!) so that I can have 2 lascannons and 2 twin-linked heavy bolters per side :D Or maybe 4 twin-linked heavy bolters, if I magnetise the lascannons. Or 4 twin-linked heavy flamers for the Hellblade variant!

Next up I will magnetise the main battlecannon (I think I will add a wire pin for extra strength). I might also magnetise the aerial, since I hear it breaks off easily. Either that, or I will replace the antenna with guitar string.

4. What's next?

This is going to be a Khornate Baneblade, and I will be trying the following:-

• Making a Vulcan mega-bolter to swap with the Baneblade turret. I have a Macharius on order at Forgeworld, so I can use this as a template to make a plasticard version.
• Making a Stormblade cannon.
• Adding various Forgeworld goodies (Chaos symbols and so on) as well as the more usual GW Chaos vehicle bitz, chainz and so on.
• Adding spikes erupting through the armour plating. There are a few ways of doing this – plasticard and greenstuff being the most obvious.
• Imbed skeletons in the armour. This should be pretty striking, and involves some careful sanding of skeleton warriors and/ or some simple casting in plaster.
• Khornify the main cannon with skulls (Antenociti sell a nice resin dragon skull that should fit).
• Nearer the turret I will be adding more signs of daemonic infestation. I quite like the idea of stiff, black hairs erupting from cracks in the armour. I can also supplement them with bits from the Chaos Spawn sprue.
• I have also tried making snaking worms of glistening ooze (if you have seen The Thing, you'll know what I mean) coming from these same cracks. Vallejo Water Effects coloured with pink and purple inks and squeezed out a needle tip looks fantastic!
• If that works as the tests indicate, I might try and make the tank bleed as well! Nothing says Khorne like a tank bleeding from between its hull plating!
• The crew will be imbedded in Chaosified greenstuff at the turret – just their heads, either submerged in Chaos filth or sprouting on tendrils. I will be using flagellant's heads for the right crazy/screaming look.
• I also like the idea of cutting holes in the armour and modelling just a fraction of what's in there. Natural sponge painted the right way might look appropriately daemonic, pulsing away inside the tank! If not, I will just GS something.
• A Khornate colour scheme and some rust and dirt should finish it off. I might use real rust – I have one of these rust-making kits, but I will try it out before slapping it on my precious Baneblade.

After that I have a rather cool idea for a Brass Scorpion that I haven't seen anyone try yet, and I want to post up pics of my proof-of-concept Chaos Daemon Prince with literally glowing eyes (fibre optics, a button battery under the base and some careful drilling!)

Sholto

Pekel
03-12-2007, 15:02
Sounds like you've got a lot of interesting things to share. I'll be following this, as I plan to make a magnetized Baneblade someday myself. Keep on posting!

Sholto
05-12-2007, 09:39
Thanks

I magnetised the lascannon turrets and the demolisher cannon last night. I will have pictures up fairly soon.

The lascannon turrets don't really need magnetising, but I did it anyway because it allows me to remove them in-game to simulate 'weapon destroyed'.

As for the demolisher cannon, I sawed the barrel off at the base and then glued the barrel of the Defiler demolisher cannon to the ball joint. I then magnetised the cover plate so that the demolisher cannon can be removed.
http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/Baneblade%20(8).jpg
Drilling the holes through the existing mounting slots

http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/Baneblade%20(14).jpg
Gluing the socket to the back provides a flat surface under the drilled holes to put the magnets on - as if by magic! And the depth of the plastic hull is exactly 3mm - or the depth of two magnets.

http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/Baneblade%20(15).jpg
Magnets installed and the barrel under construction

Several reasons to do this (1) to simulate 'weapon destroyed' as above, (2) to make it easy to paint and (3) to allow me to turn the Baneblade into a Macharius, which does not have a demolisher cannon. I cut a rectangle of plasticard the same size as the hatch, cut and glued some rivets on it and attached a Chaos symbol for some decoration. That way I can pop off the demolisher cannon and put the hatch in its place.

As for magnetising the cannon hatch and the plasticard hatch it is amazing how well the Baneblade kit is set up for 3x1.5mm magnets! It is as if it was designed with their dimensions in mind. The pictures will show just how easy it is.

Got a nice set of Fenryll resin dragon skulls, and they will look suitably vicious on the main battlecannon. Speaking of which, I have ordered some slightly larger magnets for that (6x0.5mm) since I think the smaller ones might not cut it.

More to come...

Sholto

Sholto
06-12-2007, 00:53
A few more pics:-

http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/Baneblade.jpg
The magnetised lascannon turrets

http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/Baneblade%20(20).jpg
The plasticard hatch replete with rivets (cut from Plastruct rods) and Chaos decoration

http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/Baneblade%20(16).jpg
The magnets on the back of the plasticard and the real hatches

http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/Baneblade%20(22).jpg
How the demolisher cannon looks. I had to cut the 'face' up a little - you can see the joins. A little GS should fix that.

Sholto

Voleron
06-12-2007, 01:20
Looking like a good start. Are you going to be replacing the other weapon muzzles with the chaos versions, too?

kiwichild
06-12-2007, 06:25
Nice, now if you could get your hands on some large resin human skulls you could have a field day. Check out the LR in my signature, un-updated pbase photos, for an idea of what I`m getting at.
http://www.pbase.com/chaoson/image/4762997

Sholto
06-12-2007, 17:31
I have loads of daemonic muzzles, but while I can fit them to the lascannons and HB turrets, I cannot fit them to the sponson weapons. If I do then the sponson weapons will no longer be removable.

I also plan to drill them out before fitting them, so the muzzles match the weapon barrels.

The main weapon(s) will be getting the most attention, however, and I have a few things planned for them.

@Kiwichild - love that LR! I will have plenty of skulls on mine (see above) but none that big :)

Sholto

Inquisitor Konig
07-12-2007, 06:08
The few bitz you have used so far have really given it some character.

Sholto
07-12-2007, 11:05
Thanks. Only a couple of pieces have gone on so far. I got the items below from Forgeworld this morning, so I will see where they might go.

The Khorne symbol might replace the shrine at the rear of the tank. The Chaos symbol might look good at the front - we'll see. The brass etchings will just provide some detailing around the hull.

Sholto

ZAChos
07-12-2007, 12:08
I want to watch this and see how it ends. It looks like a lot of thought has gone into this project, something that most lack.

Sholto
07-12-2007, 12:11
I want to watch this and see how it ends. It looks like a lot of thought has gone into this project, something that most lack. A fair bit - I have a 2 page Word doc containing my plans and ideas for this. I am nothing if not prepared, which is my sole substitute for a lack of both talent and experience :p

Sholto

THE CHIEF
07-12-2007, 12:30
Wow this looks fantastic. This will be my bible if I ever take the plunge and get a BB!

kiwichild
08-12-2007, 05:59
Giant FW Khorne icons, brass etched parts! That`s it!:mad:.......................... I`m subscribing!:D

Vaktathi
08-12-2007, 06:27
Looks cool so far, I'm looking forward to the finished result.

Sholto
08-12-2007, 09:01
(Uh-oh - people are expecting this to be half-decent! I don't like pressure :cries:)

Turns out the Khorne icon (the very large one) is larger than I thought. It covers the whole rear of the tank (shrine and exhaust pipes). Still, Chaos don't do things by half and neither do I!

If I don't put it at the rear, alternatives for it are either to be the centre-piece of a detailed interior for the tank (not so likely - may be biting off more than I can chew, although I have some FW chaos interiors I could use) or the main piece for a Fortress of Arrogance-style turret conversion (a bit more likely - nothing says Khorne like a massive temple of blood mounted on top of a tank :D).

And I suppose I ought to warn people - I have 3 young kids and a day-job, so this is a very occasional hobby for me. Updates may not be as frequent as you might like, but thanks to everyone so far :)

Sholto

Shad0wblade
08-12-2007, 16:12
i want see pictures that the baneblade is painted..

Sholto
09-12-2007, 21:35
Been brainstorming some ideas for this - see what you think. I am by no means going to go with any of these, but any massive daemon I add on top will be fully magnetised so I can remove it and restore the model to 'just' a tank.

http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/DaemonBaneblade2.jpg
Here it is without the main turret.

http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/DaemonBaneblade.jpg
And here it is with the main turret, with added dragon skulls. My Khorne Lord Nauzagedyn of Purgatio
http://incunabulum.co.uk/Baneblade/avatar.gif
was momentarily overcome with something he later strenuously denied was love upon seeing this monstrosity. What he did do was whisper, "Blood!" over and over again while licking his lightning claws. Ick.

As I try variations I will post them. Please let me know what you think.

I am guessing most of you can tell where the parts have come from, but they would be Khornified if I went with this (horns for the head and so on). I think the guns would count as Vulcan mega bolters :D

Sholto

Inquisitor Konig
09-12-2007, 22:52
I dont even know what to say... that thing is crazy looking!

dcook22
10-12-2007, 03:27
That's absolutely insane. Uh...what is it? I mean, what does it play as? Just a baneblade or more?

Either way....wow. You've got talent.

Dan

deathwing_marine
10-12-2007, 03:48
That things wicked cool.
It looks like an evil Wintermute :D

shaso_iceborn
10-12-2007, 04:16
subscribed and I don't even play chaos (though I have been converting a brass scorpion actually 3 of them!)

Sholto
10-12-2007, 09:40
Thanks for all the comments :)


Uh...what is it? I mean, what does it play as? Just a baneblade or more? It would be a Baneblade Daemon Engine of some kind. I was thinking about a datasheet for it. I used the VDR. How about this:-


Baneblade Daemon Engine - Synu Volcica

Pleased with the bloodshed and horror wrought by his child, the Defiler, among the frontlines of the hated Imperium, Abbadon charged arch-heretic and fallen Magos of the Mechanicus Bel Sendentious with creating something even more foul and bloodthirsty - a new, agile class of Chaos titan born and bred within the Eye of Terror itself.

Sendentious enslaved whole worlds to carry out the necessary research for the prototype, but his labour was far from complete when an enraged Abbadon came seeking his much-delayed prize. Unwilling to disappoint his Lord, Sendentious hastily completed his project. Without any method of locomotion, Sendentious was forced to meld the upper body of the titan with a captured Baneblade that had been dedicated to Khorne, while his panicked Choir of the Unholy cast around in the tides of the Warp for a suitable daemonic entity.

As Abbadon approached, they found and bound a blood-ravening horror known as Synu Volcica, whose insane scream of fury greeted the Despoiler on his arrival.

To say the Warmaster was displeased would be an understatement. His prototype agile titan, which was to have been fielded in the hundreds to devastate whole worlds, was crippled in the form of a lumbering tank made by the weaklings of the Imperium. But when Synu Volcica, maddened by its sudden encasement in material form, turned on Magos Sendentious and ripped him apart in a hail of heavy bolter shells, Abbadon gave the abomination his blessing and left.

Since then Synu Volcica has been a dark rumour, glimpsed only in the shattered remnants of pict recordings of worlds laid waste and in the cold eyes of the myriad dead, a dread whisper in the barracks of the Imperial Guard. A new shadow has fallen on the battlefields of the 41st Millennium.

VEHICLE DATAFAX
Name: Synu Volcica - Legendary Unit
Points: 695
Front Armour: 13
Side Armour: 13
Rear Armour: 12
BS: 3
Type: Tank
Size: War machine
Speed: Lumbering
Weapons:
1 x Battle cannon + co-axial autocannon
1 x Demolisher
2 x Lascannon
3 x Twin-linked Heavy bolter
2 x AA Mega bolters
Special Rules:
Daemonic Possession
Crazed
D6
1 = Fire Frenzy. Synu Volcica may not move this turn. At the beginning of the Shooting phase it must pivot on the spot towards the closest visible unit (friend or foe) and fire all of its weapons against it - twice! Observe the usual field of fire rules for sponson weapons. If Synu Volcica cannot fire any weapons, treat this as a 2-5 'Sane' result instead.
2-5 = Sane. The player controls the model normally.
6 = Daemonic Rage. In the Movement phase Synu Volcica must move as far as possible in the direction of the nearest enemy (excluding Super Heavies and Gargantuan creatures), tank shocking anything that is in its way. Treat Synu Volcica as Fast for this Turn only, as it daemonically powers its engines way beyond their design limit.
Vehicle Category: War machine
Structure Points: 2


Reallyt nice looking stuff so far. Where's the head on that demon-thing from? That is Hammerstein, from the 12" tall vinyl model.

Sholto

Inquisitor Konig
10-12-2007, 10:28
That sounds really crazy (and fun)... dont know about the points cost but then again who cares what the points cost is when you play with something as crazy as that!!!

Question... what happens if you kill the closest unit with the first gun? Would you just move on to the next closest target until everthing is dead or you have used all the guns? I mean shooting 2 Mega Bolters Twice could kill an entire army!

Sholto
10-12-2007, 10:43
It is based on the Chaos Dreadnought 'Crazed' special rule, so the answer is "whatever the Chaos Dreadnought would do."

I think it would keep firing, even if the target was dead, so you would resolve any template or ordnance weapons (the scatter might hit other units) and then ignore any other weapons since they are just hitting a corpse/ wreck.

BTW - I deliberately lowered the front armour rating from the Baneblade's 14, since the daemon is so exposed. I also lowered the BS to 3 due to the Daemonic Possession, so those guns are only going to hit half the time!

I agree that 2 mega-bolters might be a bit much. Those guns could pretty much be anything, but they look far too big to be anything other than Scout Titan weapons. Maybe I could cut them off and put some kind of CC weapons in there, and call them Monstrous Creature CC weapons?

The other alternative I thought of was to use the first version of the model (the picture without the turret on), and then attach the main cannon to the left hand and the Hellhammer cannon to the right. That way it would not be much more powerful than a standard Baneblade.

Given that you can take a standard Baneblade and put two more sponsons on it for 100 points, you could make this a rules-compliant Baneblade if you (a) made the left hand the main Baneblade cannon, and (b) put all the extra sponson weapons on the right hand (2 lascannons and 2 twin-linked HB or HF). That way I could field it under Apoc rules as a proper Baneblade.

Sholto

Sholto
11-12-2007, 09:12
I think I prefer it without the Baneblade turret. I scratch-built a mount that fits into the turret slot on the Baneblade model, so the body of the daemon can rotate freely:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31590&stc=1&d=1197364258

As you can see, I have swapped the Hammerstein head for the Khornate daemon symbol/ face. I think it looks a bit madder. Try and imagine spikes and cables looping out from the edges to connect into the titan body at the sides.

Due to the location of the turret slot on the Baneblade model, the daemon body does not sit perfectly centrally, but I don't think that is an issue.

The red line on the gun on the left-hand side of the picture shows where I will cut the gun. I can then magnetise and pin that location, to allow me to add other weapons (Baneblade cannon, Hellhammer cannon and close combat weapon - I am thinking circular saw)

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31588&stc=1&d=1197363959
See - it can rotate freely!

The mount is just layers of thick plasticard, so it is easily strong enough to hold that weight of plastic above. I will decorate the sides in a suitable fashion.

Sholto

Inquisitor Konig
11-12-2007, 09:41
So are you gonna cut those Aquillas off or what? I know it is looted but come on!
haha j/k you have made so many different choices. I love it.

Sholto
11-12-2007, 09:49
So are you gonna cut those Aquillas off or what? I know it is looted but come on!
haha j/k you have made so many different choices. I love it. All in good time! I have already removed the ones on both cannons, but I will use the Dremel to remove the others, and I will do them all at once, then attach the brass etched parts/ Khorne symbols in their place.

I think I will order some the Grief model lenses (http://www.pdi-model-supplies.com/grief.php) and see how they look installed in the headlights - anyone used them before?

Sholto

kiwichild
11-12-2007, 09:52
Holy steaming bloody Khornation, that could be a modern redo of a classic
http://www.solegends.com/citcat9x3/c92408epicchaoswarmachine-02.htm
First thing I though of was the Lord of battle and then the old 40k bloodslaughter
http://zachary.org/games/gw/ch9.jpg

Wow neat, I thought you were just gonna make a shrine and `pow` you sock it to us with a half titan/tank. Brilliant!

kiwichild
11-12-2007, 09:58
Check out these pups:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/146285

Sholto
11-12-2007, 10:59
Very interesting - thanks! I found out about Stuff of Legends just this morning and here you are posting a link to it :)

I bet Forgeworld are working on something like that for Codex Daemons. Or at least I hope they are...

Rather than the circular saw (or as well as) I might go with a set of massive flails. I bought two mini camera tripods a few weeks ago and with some spikes on the balls and some detailing, I think they would make excellent flails (just like the Defiler, but much larger)
http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31592&stc=1&d=1197370737

Sholto

Sholto
12-12-2007, 09:48
I have been holding off detailing the tank, but some FW parts finally arrived (Chaos Rhino Upgrade kit) so I can get cracking. I am still waiting on about 20 skull emblems, but they are so small I can fit them in anywhere.

I will try and update this again sometime soon.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31632&stc=1&d=1197452902

My camera-phone doesn't do these pieces justice - the attention to detail is amazing.

(yeah, I know this is a Baneblade and not a Rhino, but a tank panel is a tank panel, and can go anywhere the way I see it. It's all about making it as Chaos as possible)

Sholto

Inquisitor Konig
12-12-2007, 10:27
I really hope you decide to model the inside of the Baneblade... I havnt seen anyone else do that yet.

Mad Larkin UK
12-12-2007, 10:41
Where did you find that model of an APU from the matrix, it looks awesome. How could u canabilise it to stick to your baneblade!! It would have made such a cool chaos titan!!! actually thats given me an idea ......:p

Sholto
12-12-2007, 11:36
I really hope you decide to model the inside of the Baneblade... I havnt seen anyone else do that yet. I am tempted to leave the top unglued anyway, in the rather remote hope that the plastic conversion kits will then fit right in - unlikely, I know. In all honestly, I doubt I will do an interior, but I won't rule it out entirely for now.


Where did you find that model of an APU from the matrix, it looks awesome. How could u canabilise it to stick to your baneblade!! It would have made such a cool chaos titan!!! actually thats given me an idea ......:p I got it on Ebay. I wanted the body for this and - in a freakish stroke of luck - there was a broken APU for sale when I looked. It was snapped exactly where I was going to cut it, and I got it for a song :D Khorne was smiling on me, that day...

I will do something with the legs, but am not sure what. Might blend it with some Imperial City sprues and make some kind of walking fortress, with Havocs concealed in mobile cover. A striding Temple of Blood that would basically function as a Rhino? Dunno, but that might be quite cool. I have a vinyl ED209 model that stands 12" tall and looks an awful lot like a Warhound Titan. Something will suggest itself, no doubt!

Sholto

synapse
12-12-2007, 13:06
WTF?

no!

it was so promising and you you went and stuck that matrix APU onto it?

i doubt my protests will be heard amid the screams of: 'OMG! thats so great' but i think a simple baneblade + 'subtle' khorne embelishments would have been cooler

Sholto
12-12-2007, 13:43
WTF?

no!

it was so promising and you you went and stuck that matrix APU onto it?

i doubt my protests will be heard amid the screams of: 'OMG! thats so great' but i think a simple baneblade + 'subtle' khorne embelishments would have been cooler Not at all - the APU is completely removable, so I can swap between the normal Baneblade turret and the APU. I made a custom turret mount for the APU for just that reason.

Sholto

teefkrakka
12-12-2007, 13:45
I am really impressed with this.This is what i thought a deamon engine would look like.I cant wait to see more progress on this soon.Stuff like this keeps me in the hobby.

floyd pinkerton
14-12-2007, 17:54
wow:0

You, Sir, are a ravenous loon!:D

This should be cracking when it's done

Darnok
16-12-2007, 10:21
Well. That is just sick. Gorgeous! :D

Honestly, I truely like the conversion, the monstrous turret thingy fits quite well for a Khrne Daemon Engine. I would do a bit more with the actual Baneblade, so more chaotic details, some spikey armour plating, stuff like that. Otherwise it is more than promising. Keep up the good work. :)

Glavemaster
16-12-2007, 13:37
Lovely! Absolutely spiffing. :D

That... Thing is Khorne incarnate. Amazing work. That said, I do think that the tank itself could do with some more Bitz of Chaos. ;)

Sholto
18-12-2007, 01:08
I really appreciate all the comments so far.

The bitz-ification has begun (only just). Things done tonight include:-

- magnetised the aerials and replaced the plastic rod with guitar wire, so no snappages here.

- added the two cupolas/ hatches. The one with the option of putting the tank commander in I have magnetised, so I can swap between Chaos tank commander (flagellant head from WFB and other bits), daemonic head and hatch closed. Because it is magnetised it can rotate freely.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31797&stc=1&d=1197940018

- The other one I have not magnetised, since all the crew heads will be emerging from there on tendrils of nasty, but for some reason I made it so it can rotate. I am not entirely sure why, but rotate it does.

EDIT: I've remembered why it rotates. I have ordered the Chaos Marine vehicle crew kit from Forgeworld (about 4 weeks ago, now - hey guys!), and I will put one in there and one in the other (on magnets).

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31795&stc=1&d=1197940018

- I added the two hatches on the tank body, but glued them in the open position and stuck plasticard under the gap. Some GS work will go in there (head imbedded in Chaos ooze or something). You can see one of them in the first and last photo. Yes, it blocks the turret from turning so, yes, I might chop it off.

- I sliced off all the Imperial eagles (except for the two on the side armour panels - missed those!) and started adding some of the brass etchings. The story of this tank is that it started out as a renegade militia, before slowly going over to Khorne, hence it will have Chaos Undivided and Khornate markings, with the Khornate starting to predominate. In fact, I think it is nearly fully possessed by a Khornate daemon at this stage.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31796&stc=1&d=1197940018

- I also sliced off some of the detail on the side armour panels and put skulls there instead. You can see them in the last photo.

- Lastly I had a go at detailing the sponson and turret. The metal blades on the lascannon are Dark Eldar.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31798&stc=1&d=1197940018

You can also see in this last photo that all the daemonic gun muzzles have been drilled so they look more like proper gun barrels.

Just a small update, then. More later.

Sholto

Vasteye
18-12-2007, 16:44
Simply gorgeous, which doesn't seem to be an appropriate description of a khorne daemon tank.

That said I'm sure anything that isn't "BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD" won't register with your lord anyway.

(btw love the stories on your fanfic site)

kiwichild
19-12-2007, 06:05
http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31798&stc=1&d=1197940018
The metal blades on the lascannon are Dark Eldar.
Sholto
Those blades would make great `C` spines for your praying mantis of khorne!

Sholto
20-12-2007, 11:07
Simply gorgeous, which doesn't seem to be an appropriate description of a khorne daemon tank.

That said I'm sure anything that isn't "BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD" won't register with your lord anyway.

(btw love the stories on your fanfic site) Thanks - at least when creating the stories I don't need to wait for weeks for Forgeworld parts to turn up ;)


Those blades would make great `C` spines for your praying mantis of khorne! Good idea - I hadn't thought of that. I have 4 left over, and I was going to add them to the sides of the Baneblade, but I might just use plasticard for that or - perhaps better - the Carnifex large rending talons, suitably disguised. The talons are more Baneblade 'scale' anyway, and suit the possessed feel I am going for.

(NOTE: Brass-etched pieces are vewwy, vewwy sharp!)

I tested out making the "spikes bursting through the hull plates" pieces last night, and I think it went well. I will make them for the tops of the side panel armour plates and see how it looks.

I also have a load of resin skulls from Fenryll on the way - this thing is going to be plastered with skulls when it's done! The main cannon barrel will be lined with them as per the WFB Hellcannon interior. I have already finished adding the WFB shield skulls to the side panels and they look pretty cool.

I will also try and make a start at the Chaos gribbly bits tonight.

Sholto

RobZie
20-12-2007, 13:38
ooh skulls is just what this monstrosity needs
great work dude, when you are finished please send to this adress:
86 whitby rd
nelson
new zealand

i will objectively evaluate it and send it straight back...i promise :P

Sholto
20-12-2007, 14:27
ooh skulls is just what this monstrosity needs
great work dude, when you are finished please send to this adress:
86 whitby rd
nelson
new zealand

i will objectively evaluate it and send it straight back...i promise :P My brother is in New Zealand - I'll have him bring it by ;)

Sholto

RobZie
21-12-2007, 02:17
what a coinkidink, i will hold you to that

Sholto
24-12-2007, 02:22
Some update photos. It's not finished - still quite a few things to do, but it's coming together.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31946&stc=1&d=1198462705

The 'dozer blade' is magnetised.

I added the spikes bursting through the hull, using two layers of plasticard and some cocktail sticks.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31942&stc=1&d=1198462668

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31943&stc=1&d=1198462668

I also magnetised the aerials:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31947&stc=1&d=1198462931

Sholto
24-12-2007, 02:29
Here is how the dozer blade is magnetised.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31949&stc=1&d=1198463051

I used 4 magnets for strength. There are 4 other magnets under the hull of the Baneblade. It was easy enough to line them all up.

You can see the skeleton on the hull. I sanded him down so he looks merged with the hull, then drove a spike through him! I will use GS to merge him with the tank more.

I wasn't satisfied with the main turret, and pinned it. It is now much more stable.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31950&stc=1&d=1198463075

The side view:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31951&stc=1&d=1198463089

As you can see, I have added some of the Forgeworld parts to the side armour, as well as some brass etchings. The side armour is still removable.

Sholto

Sholto
24-12-2007, 02:32
The rear view. The shrine is still a WIP - expect Chaos ghribbly bits coming out there.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31952&stc=1&d=1198463509

Some of the detail on the sides:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31954&stc=1&d=1198464337

I drilled out the smoke launchers, and you can see some Defiler leg armour over the headlights - I nicked that from Kordos :)

One last look:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31953&stc=1&d=1198463509

Sholto

Triszin The Wrath God
24-12-2007, 06:08
DAMNATION!!!
it would be called A DEamon Engine here's a pic of one
http://www.solegends.com/citcat9x3/c92408epicchaoswarmachine-01.htm
i plan on making a small one that uses a rhino but damn that thing would eat a titan, i want a bane blade now.

now that i got that over with.. ahhh i feel better.

"IMperial vs Chaos fight"

IG#1 "hey sarge did we call in artillery support?"
Sarge "Artillery, what Artillery?"

*you deamon engine just moving tearing their bunker to shreds*

sarge "holly mother of....."

Deamon Engine "BBBBlbblbooooooDDDD!!!!"

end of story

i'll shut up now :)

Amornar
24-12-2007, 17:25
Wow that looks amazing mate, great job. My only comment would be that logistically it seems like a shot from the main cannon would hit the skull, idk might be the angle of the picture but I think if u moved it back just a little bit so the tip was at the end of the barrel it would look better. Also if you could get a bottom jaw it would look really good. Great work so far though, can't wait to see some paint.

Sholto
24-12-2007, 23:17
DAMNATION!!!
it would be called A DEamon Engine... Once I finish this and the Brass Mantis, it's onto a proper Daemon Engine - a sort of walking Cauldron of Blood with a temple on top. Should be fun! The parts have been ordered, so watch this space :)


Wow that looks amazing mate, great job. My only comment would be that logistically it seems like a shot from the main cannon would hit the skull, idk might be the angle of the picture but I think if u moved it back just a little bit so the tip was at the end of the barrel it would look better. Also if you could get a bottom jaw it would look really good. Great work so far though, can't wait to see some paint. I have the bottom jaw (part of the Fenryll set of resin dragon skulls) and will stick it on pretty soon. I will move the top as you suggest, although it needs moving anyway since it is not quite centered.

As for painting it - eek! Not confident in my painting skills at all. That's going to be an interesting experience...

Thanks for leaving your comments :)

Sholto

Inquisitor Konig
25-12-2007, 17:55
That is looking really good! The shrine even made me laugh a little. heh heh

Sholto
26-12-2007, 02:03
Finished the Chaos Shrine at the rear. This is where it becomes obvious that the Baneblade is becoming possessed!:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32003&stc=1&d=1198634238

I drilled a hole in the bottom of the "shrine" and glued a capped tube on the inside of the hull. I just wanted to give the impression of a sizeable orifice! It is ringed with small teeth, but they are hard to see from this angle.

I also added a tentacle coming out one of the exhaust pipes, as well as some spikes and blades at the bottom.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32001&stc=1&d=1198634238

I used parts from the Chaos Spawn sprue, as well as a couple of Carnifex rending talons and some GS.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32002&stc=1&d=1198634238

I also added the tank crew's heads coming out the 2nd hatch, attached to more ghribbly Chaos Spawn bitz. There's some GS work on the base to blend it in, but you cannot see that here. It is magnetised so I can remove it.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32004&stc=1&d=1198634238

Sholto

Inquisitor Konig
26-12-2007, 02:30
Chuckle has turned to shock and horror. Lovely, that thing is very nice looking!

Sholto
28-12-2007, 01:50
The detailing goes on:-

The skeleton on the front of the tank is now properly greenstuff'd into the hull.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32043&stc=1&d=1198806404

This next bit is for a part of the hull where I glued the hatch open. You can see inside the Baneblade. Ordinarily there is nothing there (which is why the hatch should be glued closed), but this is the box I made to go under the hole:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32044&stc=1&d=1198806404

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32045&stc=1&d=1198806404

The idea is that the crew of the tank are being taken over by the daemon, and here we see an officer embedded in daemonic flesh grappling with a tentacle. He is surrounded by the skulls of his dead crewmates.

You will be able to see most of this through the hatch, and the arm and the tentacle stick out of the hatch, which I think looks pretty cool. I haven't glued it in place yet, since it will be much easier to paint like this.

Finally, this is the other hatch I had glued open. Nothing so fancy here, just some FW bits from the Chaos Rhino upgrade trimmed mightily and some GS packed in around them.

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32046&stc=1&d=1198806784

Sholto

Sholto
28-12-2007, 02:02
A couple of images of the "doomed officer" installed in the hull:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32048&stc=1&d=1198807586

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32049&stc=1&d=1198807586

Sorry for the odd angle on this one. I have added some daemonic tentacles from the Chaos Spawn sprue coming out a rent in the hull as well as out of one of the headlights:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32047&stc=1&d=1198807206

Sholto

Meticulous
28-12-2007, 04:43
Is the officer holding he be-tendriled-eye out of the hatch? Like it's limp? 'Cause that's a neat idea.

bnf
29-12-2007, 15:17
Totally amazing.

Inquisitor Konig
29-12-2007, 15:56
So much detail!

Sholto
29-12-2007, 16:35
I am working on the dozer blade now, so here are some shots of the greenstuff on the back. I added a couple of Chaos Spawn limbs, since I am love with all things Spawny at the moment!

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32105&stc=1&d=1198946199

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32106&stc=1&d=1198946199

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32107&stc=1&d=1198946199

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32108&stc=1&d=1198946199

I am still a total noob with the GS, but I did this using a needle, a toothpick and a clay scuplting tool. I am making sure to keep everything wet while I work, and it seems to be going alright so far! All comments welcome - especially criticism and suggestions for GS'ing better.

The next step is to add some GS tendrils at the front of the dozer, to link the back of the Chaos symbol with the front of the dozer (if you can picture what I mean). I will glue some lengths of plastic rod in there at various angles and then GS them to look like ghribbly tendrils. That's the plan, anyway!

Sholto

Sholto
29-12-2007, 16:43
I also assembled the Chaos Tank Crew from FW:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32109&stc=1&d=1198946640

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32110&stc=1&d=1198946640

I realise now I have assembled the main hatch wrongly, and that the lip on the bottom of all the hatch figures is meant to go under the hatch, and not on top. I might be able to change it, but I am not sure if I should bother. The hatch is pretty strongly fastened to the top hull of the turret with superglue, and getting it off might not be possible without damage.

I only realised I had made the mistake when I got the FW Chaos marine with the twin bolters and wondered why his base wouldn't fit on the hatch. I razor-sawed it off (very carefully!), and then started thinking about why FW would put such a large and useless base on - and then it hit me :p One look at the instructions confirmed my mistake. Doh! Oh, well, that'll teach me!

In the two pics above, you can also just about see the FW panel at the rear of the tank - I glued some plasticard microstrips around it and glued rivets to those. That ties it in with the body of the tank a lot better, I think. Top tip for making rivets - a rotary hole punch. Perfect round rivets every time

Room for one last pic - a side view of the 'daemon' at the back of the tank - you can see the spiky bits better from this angle:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32111&stc=1&d=1198947343

EDIT: Total magnet count to date - 56!

Sholto

Mewy
29-12-2007, 17:51
This is turning out very nice indeed. Can't wait to see your painting skills in par with your converting skills.

Nykster
29-12-2007, 18:59
you are my hero.

I just wish there was a font big enough to describe how awsome i think your tank is. You have actually convinced me to go out and get my own, and i'm getting in tomorrow. I'll not magnetise as much as you did, but everything that can be changed will be magnetised.

and as for your GS, it looks very good. I find that the simpler you keep it the better it turns out.

looking forward to seeing it painted.

Sholto
29-12-2007, 20:34
Is the officer holding he be-tendriled-eye out of the hatch? Like it's limp? 'Cause that's a neat idea. That is a cool idea, and I guess it could work that way. I had imagined he was fighting with the tendril (even Renegade Militia don't particularly want to be devoured by a possessed Baneblade) but holding up a limp tentacle is nice :)


This is turning out very nice indeed. Can't wait to see your painting skills in par with your converting skills. Thanks, but's that's my worry. I haven't wielded a paint brush in anger for over 20 years, and even then I was never particularly good. I will stick with something simple and foolproof.


and as for your GS, it looks very good. I find that the simpler you keep it the better it turns out. Cheers - I am trying to keep it simple, and just go for Chaos ooze :)

Sholto

Vaktathi
29-12-2007, 21:18
Wow, this thing just keeps looking more and more amazing and putting my own planned Chaos baneblade to shame.

DaBrode
29-12-2007, 23:14
Your vehicle converting skills are great! It's posts like this that inspire me to do further work such as the vehicles in my project log linked in my sig. I'd love to have your input on my stuff too if you have the time to check it out.

Keep up the good work and don't worry about the painting...it'll all come together.

Lord Zso Sahaal
30-12-2007, 01:39
that is amazing, gruesom but amazing cant wait to see it painted

Sholto
30-12-2007, 10:03
Finished off the dozer blade. Here it is with the plastic rods inserted:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32151&stc=1&d=1199009288

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32152&stc=1&d=1199009288

And here it is after the GS was applied:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32153&stc=1&d=1199009288

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32159&stc=1&d=1199009478

Sholto
30-12-2007, 10:36
I decided that the side panels with the FW pieces on needed some blending in, so here they are:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32160&stc=1&d=1199011247

And here they are installed in the Baneblade:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32161&stc=1&d=1199011247

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32162&stc=1&d=1199011247

Just the main turret to do, and I suspect the skulls I need to finish that are sitting in my office, so I will get them during the week and finish up. And then it's on to the painting! Yay!! :rolleyes:

Sholto

Sholto
07-01-2008, 09:56
So my pack of resin skulls arrived. It got me thinking. While I liked the main cannon with the large dragon skull on it, it felt a bit - I dunno - clumsy. I know Khorne is not exactly renowned for his subtlety-

http://warseer.com/forums/customavatars/avatar16602_2.gif
"BLOOD! BLOOD! SKULLS!! BLOOD!!!"

-thanks, Nozzy. Hey - at least he's not just chanting "blood" endlessly. A bit of variation there. For him, that's almost a jazz scat solo.

Where was I? Oh, yes - skulls. Big dragon ones. A bit flashy. A bit Chaos bling, perhaps. It was nice, but I want less and, at the same time, more. Easy pleased, me.

So I took the dragon skull off, and made this:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32465&stc=1&d=1199699930

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32466&stc=1&d=1199699930

Instead of one skull, I now have just over 60 :evilgrin: I added some Chaos Spawn spines for the tip of the cannon and bent a Khorne symbol over the end of the barrel as well. Then I added some dangling chains.

I bought myself some silicon clay shaper tools, and I have found these to be very useful when working with GS. I still use the toothpick for pushing the GS into place and for large-scale sculpting duties, but a wetted clay shaper is great for smoothing out the GS and for blending it with the model. Highly recommended. I got two kinds - a fine point and a chisel point, both 0 scale.

What do you think? Do you like this one, or prefer the old dragon skull?

Sholto

Sholto
07-01-2008, 10:03
Some final pics of what I have now christened the Skullblade:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32467&stc=1&d=1199700365

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32468&stc=1&d=1199700365

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32469&stc=1&d=1199700365

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32470&stc=1&d=1199700365

I am working on a Plasma Blast Gun, which I am making out of blue foam. I have got it roughed out and it attaches to the main cannon mount (with magnets, natch!), but I think it might have got the dimensions wrong. It would be easy to shave some foam off and make it the right size, but I've only gone and glued the plasma coils on already (I am using PC ribbon cable). I hate ungluing things, but I don't think I have a choice. Pics of it when I am happy with it.

Sholto

kiwichild
07-01-2008, 10:28
Damnation that is one sexy/scary looking tank. Love what you have done with the cannon. Any thoughts on maybe putting some spikes onto the exposed track links? As it is grinding over it`s opponents it could give them a quick jab before squishing them. If you have a spare 24 skulls I think they would look nice if you had one on each of the bits that overhang the wheels on the side, just to tie the bottom and top together. Great work Sholto:D, it`s a beauty!

Dark Apostle
07-01-2008, 10:29
The main cannon is just superb this way! Much better than with the dragon skull. This is a crazy - and wonderful - model! I totally love it.

ZAChos
07-01-2008, 10:35
*dies*

Thats what chaos should look like. None of that painting over imperial eagles nonsense, this is the real deal.

Sholto
07-01-2008, 11:16
Any thoughts on maybe putting some spikes onto the exposed track links? As it is grinding over it`s opponents it could give them a quick jab before squishing them. If you have a spare 24 skulls I think they would look nice if you had one on each of the bits that overhang the wheels on the side, just to tie the bottom and top together. Two excellent ideas! Consider them nicked! :)

Sholto

Dreachon
07-01-2008, 16:30
Okay the new cannon, an enourmess improvement over the old one, this looks so much cooler.

Drong
07-01-2008, 16:34
Looking very good, love the cannon, might have to steal som ideas ;-)

Kveld-Ulf
07-01-2008, 22:09
Wow, simply amazing. That is indeed something to make Khorne proud.

The only problem I could possibly see with it is transporting it, so nothing breaks, and it doesn't stab you repeatedly.

Slaaaaaanesh
07-01-2008, 23:21
This is the best Chaos Baneblade I've seen so far, the szulls around the cannon barrel is very cool, as is your green stuffing.

Sholto
08-01-2008, 08:52
Thanks - looks like I did the right thing changing the cannon.


The only problem I could possibly see with it is transporting it, so nothing breaks, and it doesn't stab you repeatedly. Well, it's a Khorne tank, so it stabs me repeatedly anyway, even when I think I've put it away for the night :evilgrin: All the major pieces are magnetised, so can be removed for transport. That should make it less prone to damage, but I will still need to be v. careful.


Any thoughts on maybe putting some spikes onto the exposed track links? As it is grinding over it`s opponents it could give them a quick jab before squishing them. Aha - I remember now. I did think of this a while ago, and then realised that there is no clearance under the track guards for spikes - they would be snapped off as soon as the vehicle moved. The skull idea is still a good one, though!

Sholto

Starfarer
08-01-2008, 09:04
It looks really good. I wasn't really digging the dragon head on the cannon but the new version is really awesome. I'm not sure if I missed it but where did you get those skulls? I'll have to keep an eye on this to use as reference for when I start my plaguereaper.

Sholto
08-01-2008, 09:42
It looks really good. I wasn't really digging the dragon head on the cannon but the new version is really awesome. I'm not sure if I missed it but where did you get those skulls? I'll have to keep an eye on this to use as reference for when I start my plaguereaper. Those are resin skulls from Fenryll, a French model maker. I got them from here (http://www.leisuregames.com/acatalog/Buildings___Accessories.html) - 72 for 9, although about 15 are skulls with fantasy helmets on (I only used 1 of those, and I disguised the helmet with some filing and some GS)

If you need even more you might want these (http://blackcatbases.com/product.asp?strPageHistory=category&numSearchStartRecord=0&strParents=95&CAT_ID=95&P_ID=542&btnProduct=Products...) - 100 metal skulls for 10. I don't know what the quality is like on these ones, however. They are also available in resin for 15.

For the Fenryll skulls I just clipped the back of each skull off and glued the flattened part to the barrel of the cannon, then I applied strips of GS in between. Simple, really.

Sholto

Mewy
08-01-2008, 11:40
The cannon... O. M. F. G. looks sick! 40k Hellcannon anyone? :p IMO you have perfectly captured the corruptive feel of chaos. Well done!

Sholto
08-01-2008, 12:26
It has just occured to me that the version of this tank with the arms:-

http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31590&stc=1&d=1197364258

is actually the Khorne Lord of Battle from Epic.

From White Dwarf:
The Lord of Battle is just not a machine - it is a Greater Daemon of Khorne in mechanical form. Its mighty pistons and grindning cog-wheels are driven by a mind as keen and determined as any of the Chaos God's other daemons. The Lord of Battle is constructed of black iron and brass, and embodies all the destructive power of mechanized warfare. Khorne is the god of war in all its forms from the most primative conflicts fought with swords and arrows to the lightning-fast wars of tanks and Titans. The Lord of Battle advances furiously, and its awesome destructive energies are easily seen in its deadly armament Here's some pics of the Epic mini - link (http://www.solegends.com/citcat9x3/c92408epicchaoswarmachine-02.htm)

I will need to find out what the rules are for it. Anyone know?

Sholto

Kveld-Ulf
09-01-2008, 02:17
I know how it can be with those damned daemonengines and their stabbyness/attention getting haha.

I believe someone had pointed it out that it does look similar to the Lord of Battles. I don't know where the rules can be found, however I just count mine as a warhound titan from the Apoc book.

Could always VDR it as well.

Why is it when I find a good project/battle report it has your name next to it? You continue to impress me.

Drakon
09-01-2008, 03:04
that would be aworsome to meet in battle good stuff

Sholto
09-01-2008, 09:45
I don't know where the rules can be found, however I just count mine as a warhound titan from the Apoc book.. They are in WD 148 and it just so happened one was for sale on Ebay yesterday, so I bought it. I don't know much about the Epic game system, but at least it will be a starting point and then, as you say, I can VDR it.

I did read somewhere that Daemon Engines don't get void shields (might have been at kofler.net) - hopefully WD will clarify that.


Why is it when I find a good project/battle report it has your name next to it? You continue to impress me. I heard that last line spoken in the voice of Darth Vader :evilgrin: I am glad you like my work - why not try the website (Incunabulum (http://incunabulum.co.uk/index.htm))?

Sholto

Kveld-Ulf
09-01-2008, 19:32
Hmm, interesting. Well, I think yours puts the Epic version of it to shame anyways.

Well that wasn't intended, but I'll take it haha. I've already read Matroyshka, The Last Stand, and Killing Time on there. I'd found the website in random searching, and read Killing Time. Then the other day when I noticed it in your sig, I followed it and read the other two.

Can definitely see where some of your sources come from. "Sleipnir" caught my eye in particular.

I fancy myself a writer as well, did pretty well from the comments I received on my 40K work. However, never got around to finishing it. Think your stories might be the inspiration to help me out.

Sholto
10-01-2008, 08:48
Can definitely see where some of your sources come from. "Sleipnir" caught my eye in particular. I actually had to look that one up again - I'd forgotten who it was! I tend to do specific research for each story and throw a jumble of ideas into the mix. I rarely remember it all later on. Given the nature of The Last Stand, a lot of the references in it were actually from life-after-death tales taken from various sources and religions - just me trying to hint at what was really going on.


I fancy myself a writer as well, did pretty well from the comments I received on my 40K work. However, never got around to finishing it. Think your stories might be the inspiration to help me out. That would be cool - I hope you keep writing :)

Sholto

Kveld-Ulf
11-01-2008, 06:35
Hehe, no worries. I still like Matroyshka most. I hope there does come a sequel to it.

Maybe when I eventually finish this story, I'll submit it to you for thoughts. If you've got the time that is.

It started a few years ago as my Khorne army Fluff, and has been a work in progress since. Reading good fan fiction like yours gives me hope I'll finish it though.

Mr Zephy
15-01-2008, 18:11
http://warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31590&stc=1&d=1197364258


I love this machine oh so much. Thanks for creating this monster.

mechu95
16-01-2008, 19:44
this is truly chaotic...that's what Chaos is supposed to be! I wonder how it's gonna look when it's painted...

Kveld-Ulf
01-02-2008, 04:05
Hey, I found some pretty good rules for the Khorne Lord of Battles for Apocalypse here, and thought you might make good use of it.

http://cyborgtrucker.blogspot.com/2007/11/return-of-khorne-lord-of-battles.html

Sholto
03-02-2008, 22:07
Hey, I found some pretty good rules for the Khorne Lord of Battles for Apocalypse here, and thought you might make good use of it.

http://cyborgtrucker.blogspot.com/2007/11/return-of-khorne-lord-of-battles.html
Excellent - thanks :)

Sholto

mallymoocow
04-02-2008, 00:38
amazing!

where did you get those arms from??

Brother-Captain De Angele
04-02-2008, 00:46
dude this **** is *********** awesome i look foward to seeing it finished

Sholto
05-02-2008, 09:31
amazing!

where did you get those arms from?? It is an APU from Matrix Revolutions, made by McFarlane Toys.

Sholto

mallymoocow
06-02-2008, 11:31
ah cool just seen it on their site
it is a wicked uppertorso have you been playing around with any superheavy weapon conversions?

Sholto
07-02-2008, 10:07
ah cool just seen it on their site
it is a wicked uppertorso have you been playing around with any superheavy weapon conversions? I have taken the long barreled autocannons from a Phaeton Pattern Defence Platform (a FW piece) and they attach onto the main guns to beef them up a bit. I have also modelled a plasma blast gun.

I plan to make a giant wrecking ball for a Titan-class close-combat option (foam sphere with skulls embedded in the surface, and then studded with cocktail sticks for spikes).

Sholto

Serg. Lynchbox
30-03-2009, 04:13
How much did it cost for the CPU? I wanted to get one and convert it into a Subjucator and use the pieces of another CPU for a Warhound.