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Count Sinister
10-12-2007, 00:14
Back in May and June of this year, there was a long (and very interesting) thread about the possible re-release of the GW game Man O War. One of the posts suggested that it might well follow on from a Warhammer Historical release for a Naval warfare game.

Well, the new White Dwarf had a small ad about an upcoming WH Historical release, called Legends of the High Seas. Is it possible that this might herald the return of Man O War? I've checked the WH Historical site, and it's actually difficult to tell if Legends of the High Seas is a WH scale game where the individual crew members are the focus of things, or if it's a game about combat between ships/fleets.

Does anybody have any information about this? The rumour thread back in the summer about the possibility of GW re-doing Man O War simply stopped, and, rather than resurrecting it, I decided to start a new thread linking it to the Legends of the High Seas release. I'm interested in both, as it happens, so any info on either would be great!

Hope there are other Man O War fans out there who might know more!

swordwind
10-12-2007, 00:39
Unless there has been a massive change since Games Day the rules for LotHS is the same as Lord of the Rings and Legends of the Old West, only with rules for ship based combat added aswell.

Count Sinister
10-12-2007, 01:06
So is the idea behind Legends of the High Seas to have 28mm scale models (humans) on 28mm scale ships? This is very interesting, for a few reasons. The first, of course, has to do with models. I know that GW tends not to support Historical Games with figures (ok, doesn't support them at all), and I know for a fact (because I've looked for them) that there are very, very few 28mm ship models out there. For this reason I'm curious about what Legends is going to do. Will it simply provide guidelines for how to build ships from scratch, or will the ship-fighting rules be something different altogether? If the answer to the second question is 'yes', I'm curious if that might mean a link to a re-release of Man O War...

wat_dabney
10-12-2007, 16:51
Don't get excited about the prospect of new Man 'o' War models - the LotHS book gives some examples on how to scratch build 28mm ships. There are some companies that already make 28mm scale resin ships though so people do have the option of purchasing some if they don't like converting/constructing. Old Glory make some cracking ships, for one...
http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/products.asp?cat=208

Count Sinister
10-12-2007, 22:33
Thanks for the info, Dabney. So, it's a 28mm skirmish game with ships as part of the rules - but there are rules for ship-to-ship combat, right? What I'm more interested in is the possibility that ship-fighting rules might be the precursor to a new release of Man-O-War. The ships are not really the issue, but in addition to my curiosity about Man-O-War, I'm also interested in what the Legends of the High Seas is like. So, thank you!

wat_dabney
10-12-2007, 22:55
That's right. The main feature of the game will be skirmishes between Pirates, Privateers and Naval Crew using the LOTR core game system. That worked really well for Legends of the Old West as it led to fast and furious gaming. On top of one off scenarios, there will be a campaign element so your crew will develop over time, gaining skills and suffering injuries - you'll also be able to recruit new crew members, buy new equipment and, of course, ships! Not all games are going to be ship to ship boarding actions - lots of games will be land based. The pure ship to ship combat rules won't need to be 28mm scale so you may have a chance to use some Man-O-War ships - but bear in mind that this is a Warhammer Historical product so there won't be any fantasty armies included.

If you're after more info, join the LotHS Yahoo group as you'll be able to chat with Tim Kulinski who's written the book. He won't give out any hard rles but he should be able to let you know what to expect from the game.
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/LotHighSeas/?yguid=59634712

Count Sinister
10-12-2007, 23:38
Excellent! Thank you, Dabney. I have all the Legends of the Old West books, and like the system a lot (with only one or two exceptions). I play Mordheim for WH fantasy, and it has a similar feel to me, because of the experience system, although of course with cowboys and lawmen! If Legends of the High Seas is similar, it should be excellent. Also, it's an excellent excuse to paint lots of pirates!

wat_dabney
11-12-2007, 07:50
One of the nicest things about the LotOW books was the layout - it'll be similar for LotHS as Pete Borlace is also doing the new book.

I've already got my Pirates painted and I'm painting up some British Naval crew for them to battle against now. I can recommend the Old Glory range of European sailors and captains as you get loads of models for your cash - so many that it's probably sharing the packs (one pack gives you thirty sailors and the other fifteen captains - far too many for a single crew...) Here's a couple of my Foundry pirates to get you in the mood!

http://www.howlinggriffon.co.uk/resource/pirates/pirate1.jpghttp://www.howlinggriffon.co.uk/resource/pirates/pirate6.jpg

talismanisland
11-12-2007, 13:31
At Games Expo I saw that the Black Scorpion stall had some really nice character models, unfortunately I was going to buy some the day after but they'd gone home!

There are some nice female pirates on the workbench pages too...

http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/range.asp?the_range=PIR

http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/workbench.asp

http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/images/PIR/PIR_PIR4_1.jpghttp://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/images/workbench/workbench_120_large.jpg

scarletsquig
15-12-2007, 17:20
I've decided to pick up a bunch of those black scorpion pirates next year, along with the LotHS book.

Excellent sculpts and 1.60/ model.

Plus, they can double up for use in warmachine. :)

wat_dabney
21-01-2008, 21:54
Just to note, the Legends of the High Seas book is now on sale through the Warhammer World online store. It's still being distributed to independent resellers but you can expect to start seeing it on sale widely in the next month or so...