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Drogmir
16-12-2007, 23:39
The Inquisition is broadly broken down into two schools of thought; that of the Radical and that of the Puritan. To the Radical 'the ends justifies the means' in every instance, whether through the employ of Exterminatus, daemonhosts, or alien weaponry. By contrast, the Puritans adhere strictly to Imperial doctrine and typically persecute their more unorthodox brethren.

The main tenets of the Inquisition, beyond the Radical/Puritan divide, can be defined below:

Puritans

* Thorianism - These members of the Inquisition believe that the Emperor will some day be reincarnated. This is the most 'radical' of the Puritan ideologies due to the possible upheaval that could result should the Thorians actually be able to summon the Emperor into a new form, as Believers and Unbelievers turned upon each other. Named after Sebastian Thor.

* Monodominance - This philosophy holds that man can only survive in the Galaxy at the death of every other creature, be it alien, mutant, or even psyker (which would potentially harm the Imperium, seeing as all galactic communication and long-distance travel is psychic in nature). They are arguably the most extreme of the Puritans.

* Amalathianism - The conservative philosophy of Puritanism. It advocates unity between Imperial organisations and lack of tumultuous change. Amalathian inquisitors oppose the Inqusition's division into factions. Ironically, their idealisms mark them as their own faction in the Inquisition. It was at the birth of this philosophy, on Gathalamor, at Mount Amalath, that Lord Solar Macharius was spurred on to his grand conquest of nearly a thousand worlds.

Radicals

* Xanthism - The most obviously Radical grouping within the Inquisition, it advocates the use of warp-based weaponry, such as daemon possessed swords, daemonhosts, and generally turning the power of Chaos against itself. Named after Inquisitor-Master Zaranchek Xanthus, executed as a heretic in the 32nd millennium. Note that, unlike other inquisitors, Xanthite Inquisitors will be denied Grey Knights if they requisition them.

* Horusians - A sub-sect of the Xanthites, this sect wishes to create a new leader for humanity, much like the puritan Thorians. Both factions strive for a powerful, god-like figurehead to lead the Imperium into a new golden age. But the Horusians view the might of Horus as a wasted opportunity; believing that should the limitless power of Chaos be harnessed and bound into a great leader of men, Humanity could once more become united and crush all before it. Needless to say, even open-minded members of the Inquisition view the Horusians as dangerous in the extreme.

* Recongregationism - The Imperium, after millennia, has become decadent and corrupt according to this philosophy. To remedy this, Recongregators consider that the Imperium should be rebuilt, lest it stagnate further and collapse under the pressure of countless threats from both without and within.

* Istvaanism - To this ideology, conflict is desirable to further progress through strife. It holds that mankind has made its greatest achievements after periods of conflict, such as the Horus Heresy, or Age of Apostasy. It is the place of the Istvaanians to strengthen mankind through adversity, and so follow a 'survival of the fittest' doctrine. The philosophy is named after the Istvaan III virus-bombings that initiated the Horus Heresy.

DantesInferno
16-12-2007, 23:55
I suspect I'd be going for a controlled, measured form of Xanthism.

Since more Radicals than Puritans fall to Chaos, the idea of "ends justifying the means" tends to get a bad reputation. This bad reputation is not entirely justified: the ones who fall to Chaos simply miscalculated what the ends would actually be (for instance, failing to take into account the subtle taints which exposure to Chaos can cause).

But if we could take care to ensure that the power of the daemonic is used in a controlled, carefully studied fashion, there's a huge potential benefit to the Imperium as a whole we could provide....

imperial_scholar
17-12-2007, 00:08
Thorianism - my vote. The Emperor will return. He probably could be returned to the Imperium.

Monodominance - Dumb... the Galaxy was at peace... orks traded with squats, eldar interacted with man. War... just a fact of life. If we want something.. we can still take it.

Amalathianism - Specialization is good.... nah.. these dudes are dumb

Xanthism - Don't put me within the same space system of as a Demon. They are scary.

Horusians - Come on.. the emperor will be back.

Recongregationism - the Imperium is too vast to be rebuilt. Besides.. most worlds would think it's a trick and rebel thinking its the right thing to do.

Istvaanism - Darwinism is dumb.

Captain_Ardias
17-12-2007, 00:26
Amalathianism for me, it seems to be the least worst option in the scheme of things. Turning to radicalism, although not a death sentence, does have a higher rate of turning to chaos then most, and other puritans can have a bit too strict a reading of human domination.

The Imperium definitely has a corruptible system of governance, but if you work at it and watch the guys in charge you can keep things running. Plus, look at all the enemies who would love to go after the Imperium if things started going bad and breaking up.

Quentin
17-12-2007, 00:28
Amalathianist! Imperial brothers, stop these petty internal conflicts! They weaken and distract us from the true external threats to our Glorious Imperium, forged by our benevolent and Almighty Emperor and guided by the Supreme High Lords in His stead.

The Imperial system and doctrine is fundamentally sound, however the disparity of the Imperium's consituent organisations such as the Inquisition, Administratum, Ministorum, Departmento Munitorum and thier respective Chambers Militant is so vast, we insurrect amongst ourselves more than we wage war against the Xenos, Heretic and Mutant.

The autonomy of the Astartes is particularly worrisome, and often counter-productive.

Imperials unite! Imperiosus iunctum!

talos935
17-12-2007, 00:40
Who's been reading the =][= rule book recently? :rolleyes:

Can I be an Amalathian demon hunter who uses alien tech? ;) :D

Felwether
17-12-2007, 00:40
Ehm... I always thought that the Amalathians' goal was to maintain the status quo of the Imperium... That's what it says in the =][= RB as far as I remember...

Drogmir
17-12-2007, 00:42
This is directly lifted off wiki just so everybody knows

Quentin
17-12-2007, 00:48
Ehm... I always thought that the Amalathians' goal was to maintain the status quo of the Imperium... That's what it says in the =][= RB as far as I remember...

That's basically exactly what has been described. The status quo doesn't really involve Inquisitors setting the other organisations of the Imperium on one another in thier own personal fueds between thier factions.

The Amalathians believe in continuing the Imperium as it was intended by the Emperor, where Imperial dogma is strictly adhered to and the entities of the Inquisition, Admninistratum etc. whilst seperate, work harmoniously with one another instead of fighting. No need for a new Emperor, or any major governmental reform or dabbling with sorceries of any kind.

Felwether
17-12-2007, 00:53
Hahaha! I completely missed the 'lack of tumultuous change' part. Apologies. :angel:

talos935
17-12-2007, 01:08
This is directly lifted off wiki just so everybody knows

It's also in the first dozen [or so] pages of the Inquisitor rule book, which you can download from Specialist Games (http://www.specialist-games.com/inquisitor/default.asp)Website

Direct link to Inquisitor LRB here ("http://www.specialist-games.com/inquisitor/rulebook.asp)

LordXaras
17-12-2007, 01:27
Amalathianism ftw



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mistformsquirrel
17-12-2007, 01:36
Thorianism all the way. There's something about trying to bring the Emperor back that just has huge appeal.

Quentin
17-12-2007, 01:40
Hahaha! I completely missed the 'lack of tumultuous change' part. Apologies. :angel:

Hohoho! Do not fret yourself, it's quite alright.

*Draws Bolt Pistol*

Now state your allegiance... :evilgrin:


Can I be an Amalathian demon hunter who uses alien tech? ;) :D

No you may not! A true Amalathian uses only the divine technologies and weaponry of the Imperium, forged by our Techpriests of Mars, ritually blessed by the Ministorum, and distributed by the Departmento Munitorum. And of course, such a requisition will be noted by the scribes of our Administratum.

The power structures of our Imperium work in unison to guarantee our survival and dominance in these dark times.

Felwether
17-12-2007, 01:59
Now state your allegiance...

I serve the Master of Mankind and that is all you are required to know...

TheBlueGrassGamer
17-12-2007, 02:49
Greetings,

It seems that a conclave has been called, and all that have attained any rank in the Inquisition -- from the lowest rank to the highest or the highest Secret Masters of the Ordos -- has been called upon to speak. Well, Brothers, I say this: is not the true determination one's ideologies in one's mind? If so, then I am of two minds.

It is the calling of our Ordos to safe guard all that the God-Emperor has wrought -- we have been called upon to burn the heretic, smite the xenos, and abhor the witch. Are we to accomplish this by any means necessary? Perhaps. Most often, we are called upon to use the evilest of means.

And so, Brothers, I say this: The God-Emperor of Man must die. Do we not chain him upon the Golden Throne? Do we not hinder the great potential of the Master of Mankind? If we truly do desire to defeat the Ruinous Powers, then we must destroy the Emperor of Man -- for only the Emperor is strong enough to battle the Dark Gods.

All hail the God-Emperor of Man. May the Savior of Men die quickly and peacefully.

Thanks,
Bluegrass

Quentin
17-12-2007, 03:07
You are a dreamer Bluegrass, The Emperor is the Guiding Light of the Astronomican. Whilst His Will within the physical world has been embodied in the Highs Lord of Terra, and ourselves, he still guides our vessels and fleets through the otherwise unnavigable chaos within the Warp.

Our Imperium as we know it would wither and perish if such a fanciful and impossible scheme were to be attempted, surely.

Drogmir
17-12-2007, 03:30
Fear not my brothers for saving the Imperium is a simple task of purging your mind of all possibilities except that of destroying the xenos. For without the Xenos nothing can hold back the Imperium!

( This isn't what i really believe in, i'm just throwing it in for fun)

Icarus
17-12-2007, 03:32
I'm a Thorian without doubt. Sod the status quo and the extremist nonsense - whats the point of begin an Inquisitor if you don't go for the big one and save the galaxy?

DantesInferno
17-12-2007, 03:40
I'm a Thorian without doubt. Sod the status quo and the extremist nonsense - whats the point of begin an Inquisitor if you don't go for the big one and save the galaxy?

Not entirely buggering everything up? :p

Even if the Thorians managed the reincarnation of the Emperor (and who's to say what comes back is the same as the original....), it would still cause the biggest turmoil in the Imperium since the Heresy...

orkdom
17-12-2007, 03:41
I'm a Thorian without doubt. Sod the status quo and the extremist nonsense - whats the point of begin an Inquisitor if you don't go for the big one and save the galaxy?

Because sometimes saving it is just a little more than one man can handle.

Amalathianism all the way. Sometimes it is enough simply that the galaxy should remain alive. And without the Emperor's guiding light, who are we to invoke such change but to maintain all that he has built?

And having said that, WAAAGH!! Weedy Inkwiziturz wiv olla dere no gud fakshunalizm an' pinkskinned oomie wotz-itz. Juss yoo lot keep ter yer skwabblin' whilez we orksez krumpz da 'ole lot uv yaz! ;)

Lost_Heretic
17-12-2007, 03:43
Radical Recongregationism, I'd think. I'm a strong advocate of shaking things up from time to time. :)

Icarus
17-12-2007, 04:06
Not entirely buggering everything up? :p

Even if the Thorians managed the reincarnation of the Emperor (and who's to say what comes back is the same as the original....), it would still cause the biggest turmoil in the Imperium since the Heresy...

Possibly true, but as far as I can see the Imperium is doomed anyway, its just dying slowly, under pressure with no hope of relief. Better to make one desperate gamble for a better future than to slowly get dragged down by your enemies in my view.

Plus being the guy who brought back the Emperor, would be pretty cool. Something to aim for ;)

Essia
17-12-2007, 04:38
Seems I am the only Monodomient so far.

The galaxy if full of xeno scum, the falling (and failing) Eldar, bloody thirsty Orks, all devouring Tyranids and the greedy upstart Tau, There is no peace except through the purity of the Human race.

Rise my fellow bretherns! and bring death to the foul Xenos!

Grimbad
17-12-2007, 05:21
I went with thorians cause I always liked the star child idea.

Also, because the Thorian sourcebook revealed that there is a minor ordo of the inquisition just for fighting plague zombies. Coolest ordo ever!

Iracundus
17-12-2007, 05:24
Star Child or Sensei followers need not necessarily be Thorians. Recongregationists work just as well as they try to reform the Imperium (or their local area of it) into a better place.

The Amalathian faction is ironic in its own way because they are presuming the Emperor intended for the status quo in the first place and/or intends no further change to it. They could be inadvertantly working against the Emperor's preferences by trying to maintain this status quo against change.

Quentin
17-12-2007, 05:26
I went with thorians cause I always liked the star child idea.

Also, because the Thorian sourcebook revealed that there is a minor ordo of the inquisition just for fighting plague zombies. Coolest ordo ever!

The Ordos Sepulturum, which I am a member of. We must purge the Curse of Unbelief, before it makes further mockeries of our noble martyred dead, and spreads from the Eye from whence it came!


The Amalathian faction is ironic in its own way because they are presuming the Emperor intended for the status quo in the first place and/or intends no further change to it. They could be inadvertantly working against the Emperor's preferences by trying to maintain this status quo against change.

We work to uphold the Emperor's Final Orders. It was his wish that the Imperium be forged as it is, and so it shall remain. If he were to descend from the Golden Throne and instruct otherwise, we would follow, alas it shall not be.

Iracundus
17-12-2007, 05:33
The point is we as players know a lot of the Imperium's current shape and institutions were not formulated by the Emperor or were contrary to his initial wishes. Much of the Imperium's current shape stems from post-Heresy re-organization or post Age of Apostacy changes. The Imperium is an ad-hoc structure of compromises and balances between numerous factions and subgroups. The 40K universe characters such as the Amalathians however don't know all of this history and so are under the mistaken assumption that everything was planned this way from the beginning. They are also mistaken in thinking that one status quo has endured unchanging since the founding of the Imperium. The Imperium's changes occur at a glacial rate but looking at the stretch of years from the inception of the Imperium to the "modern" 40K era, one can see slight changes down the millenia.

Brother Siccarius
17-12-2007, 06:37
The future vessel of the Emperor's soul is out there, we must find it and reunite the Imperium! All Heretics will be revealed once the non-believers show themselves against the Emperor's new vessel. He will lead humanity into a new age of greatness, and cast off the shackles holding the Imperium back.

Eetion
17-12-2007, 07:07
Istvaanism... Resolve is strengthened through adversity.... adversity that gave the Imperium the Land Raider Crusader and the Predator Variants, as initiative was required to adapt....
Could this work on a larger scale? its worth a try.

vogelfrei
17-12-2007, 07:22
Radicals Recongregationism & Ordo Heareticus.
Movement is life, anything status quo will die or is already dead. And I dislike traitors.
I'm also in one of the most powerful inquisitorial lobbies. And never can have enough power, can you?

imperial90
17-12-2007, 08:39
I agree with the istanivism point of view, humanity needs adversity to keep it united, only by having something else to fight do people stand behind the same banner

(yes i know im a pesimist)

Hector
17-12-2007, 12:32
*Walks into room brushing dark bluish blood off a "skull" white leather lab coat and wiping hands on a servitor's robes.*

Sorry i'm late, just gota fresh "Ethereal Caste" specimen to go with my Eldar, fascinating things really, what are we talking about oh... that

Well i beleive research will show us the way, but the Imperium sits pretty well at the moment. Sure it has its problems, corruption and Corruption if you know what I mean, I but I sit with the Amalathianism faction. It is just a theory that should the Emperor die he shall reincarnate his form to another vessel, which it should be noted has never been specified where or what it shall be, forsooth, it could be a lumbering Oak that the Emperor chooses to come back as, and then how shall we take his orders to our men!?!

No, the Emperor himself upon that fateful, unholy, Battle Barge asked His body be put upon the throne. We cannot disobey such a decree. He must be able to heal his own wounds and whilst He does we must protect Him, His Imperium and, possibly most importantly, His People. The Status Quo may not be the Utopia that the Emperor has invisioned for us, but it is His Will that we maintain it, as gardeners of a rose bush, though covered in thorns and requiring much work, it remains beautiful as the Owner wishes it to be. I despise faction, and call upon all of my Brother Inqui...

*Crash Wallop* blast, sounds like that Carnifex is trying to escape. Sorry you'll have to excuse me.

Felwether
17-12-2007, 14:40
Radicals Recongregationism & Ordo Heareticus.
Movement is life, anything status quo will die or is already dead. And I dislike traitors.
I'm also in one of the most powerful inquisitorial lobbies. And never can have enough power, can you?

There are more powerful forces at work than the Ordos. Remember, friend, the Eyes of the Emperor are upon you...

Richter Kless
17-12-2007, 14:56
Im a Monodominant by heart.

How could you possibly even think of living alongside filthy aliens and mutants? Their heresies and corruption must be erradicated, lest it will fester.

Dalenator
17-12-2007, 16:11
Recongregationism for me

Like a phoenix from the flames the Glorius Imperium shall rise again and with those flames we shall burn all unbelievers.

LexxBomb
17-12-2007, 21:43
ORDO HYDRA - nuf said

Tehkonrad
18-12-2007, 00:25
Brothers we must tear down this corrupt mockery of the emperors most holy imperium!!!
Recongregate Now before its too late!

The Judge
18-12-2007, 02:00
I like a cross between Recongregator and Isstvanian... blow everything up, progress through struggle, then rebuild

Icarus
18-12-2007, 02:50
I like a cross between Recongregator and Isstvanian... blow everything up, progress through struggle, then rebuild

So... basically you have the same ideology as the Shadows did in Babylon 5 ;)

Cry of the Wind
18-12-2007, 16:56
What better way to bring mankind together than through the destruction of our enemies? How else can we prove our faith to Him if not through the defeat of His foes? We should always strive towards the conquest of the galaxy in His name and those who are too weak to serve Him will fall be the wayside and be forgetten. Through the fires of battle we shall cleanse ourselves of our own weakness and bring about a new age of faith in the God Emperor!

I like the idea of the Istvaanian way of working. My Inquisitor Adian Vernius (see link in sig ;)) feels that the best way to serve the Emperor is to build the Imperium's faith in Him and the best way to build faith is to bring war to the people. By uniting against the Xenos humanity can witness its own greatness and the greatness of the Emperor who leads them and thus bring power to the Emperor in the same way that the followers of Chaos bring power to thier gods through their actions. Those who are not worthy of the Emperor will be destroyed in the conflict and so humanity will be the greater for it.

Chilltouch
18-12-2007, 17:28
Recongregationism.
The Imperium is old and stale. It relies too much on old traditions. There are so many chances that I would try to force upon the Imperium.

Revlid
18-12-2007, 17:43
Recongregationism, with an (un)healthy dollop of Xanthism.

The Imperium must learn to change. It must become more moderate, more flexible. With its resources it could begin to understand and improve on its technology within decades. Planetary Governors and Warmasters raised to their station based on loyalty and skill, rather than money and blood. Alien technological advances understood and incorporated into our own rather than simply condemned and destroyed. Chaos and the Aethyr understood and appreciated rather than ignored and allowed to creep into the dark corners of planets.

And, in the meantime, the broken and remastered tools of Chaos can serve me well in gaining enough power to affect these changes.

Supremearchmarshal
18-12-2007, 20:13
Recongregationism, but the changes should be gradual and carefully planned - a revolution in such a huge Empire would result in chaos and civil war.

badnewsblair
18-12-2007, 20:31
I myself would follow Amalathianism.

Now, if I were making up a character of myself, as in what I'd like to play (read: most interesting), I'd be of Istvaanism.

Killgore
18-12-2007, 21:26
Radicals Recongregationism

why keep using a broken blade when it can be reforged into something stronger?

cpl_hicks
18-12-2007, 21:30
Radicals Recongregationism for me, which does actually echo my political idea's :cool:

Tanith Ghost
19-12-2007, 03:08
Thorianism None would rejoice more than I when our Lord and sabiour returns tol ead us again, but it is a realistic and pertinant concern that it could trigger a civil war. When Imperials fight Imperials, only the enemies of humanity win.

Monodominance Where the xenos is concerned, I'm all too happy to strap on the power knuckes and look for some alien scum to beat up. Most Monodominates though, take it too far- We need our astropaths, and we need navigators. Psykers are not inherently evil. The Emperor, praise his name, knew this. Who are we to question His judgement?

Amalathianism This is where I fall in. The Imperium is a sledgehammer and a half when mobilized and everyone does their jobs. It was by working together, one and all from naval rating to Astartes Primarch that humanity seized this galaxy for our own. Every one of our foes would have cause to tremble in fear of us if we just fight for all we're worth, stand together as one, and let the Emperor do the rest.



Radicals
Xanthism Chaos is inherently destructive. If the fate of the eldar and what became of Magnus the Red are not proof enough of the evils of chaos,
then look at the average follower of the four. They all become the very worst a human can.


Horusians They're out of their minds. Horus almost ruined all we stand for and set humanity to it's damnation and demise by trying to control chaos. Trying to bring him back is the worst thing that could happen.

Recongregationism 'Rebuild the Imperium' is like saying 'Humble the Eldar'.
It's too vast a task to accomplish. The current Imperium has endured for ten millenia. It doesn't need changing.

Istvaanism Why stir the pot when you don't need to? There's plenty of conflict and adversity going on as it is without setting Imperial troops loose on eachother for the sake of a war.

stormblade
19-12-2007, 09:11
Istvaanism- everything else is boring.

Universe of warhammer thrives on conflict and what better way is there to be good at it than practicing it all the time.

Xgladar
19-12-2007, 15:56
Istavanism is quite possibly the dumbest idea ever.

to make the world strong we must weaken it!-yeah,great logic there!

unfortunately natural selection doesnt work that well,a dumb unorganised slob could win while a veteran of 100 battles might lose,so while in a conflict the good could be weeded out from the bad through time,in the end the sacrifice would be too great...

if you want skilled people,rather train them in a non-lethal environment

Cry of the Wind
19-12-2007, 16:33
Ah but Istvaanism is not about darwinism, it is about urging the people to purge themselves of their weakness. That weakness may be the cults that their governor has allowed to fester unpunished or pehaps the ignorance of the threat of a nearby xenos colony that is growing in power and may threaten the planet. We Istvaanians do not simply make war so the sake of war but rather we encourage to people to route out and remove the cancers in their bellies rather than sit and watch them grow. That sometimes we need to help our enemies to convince others of their true threat is of no consequence as long as the unclean are purged.

Also something that everyone here should consider is that there are many many ways to follow a particular path. The line between radical and puritan is not so black and white. A monodominant who purges all psykers useful and heretical is just as much a radical as a Xanthite using a deamon weapon. My Inquisitor Aidan Vernius will not fight alongside the Xenos and will purge them where he finds them but is also not above attacking Imperial assests in order to frame said Xenos and encourage retalitory action against them. In this way his is both puritan and radical, as most Inquisitors will tend to be.

Dazed and Confused
19-12-2007, 21:52
Through the Darwinian process of choosing fluff for my own army I must declare for Monodominance.

Tolerance is overrated *fires up Eviscerator*

stormblade
19-12-2007, 22:15
Istavanism is quite possibly the dumbest idea ever.

to make the world strong we must weaken it!-yeah,great logic there!

unfortunately natural selection doesnt work that well,a dumb unorganised slob could win while a veteran of 100 battles might lose,so while in a conflict the good could be weeded out from the bad through time,in the end the sacrifice would be too great...

if you want skilled people,rather train them in a non-lethal environment


That's why Rome- who was always at war wasn't the greatest power of her age.

Sergeant Uriel Ventris
19-12-2007, 22:20
Brothers, fellow servants of His Imperial Majesty, the only hope for mankind is through Radical Recongregationism. The will of the Emperor is being thwarted by those faithless beaurocrats that have trapped his corpse in the Golden Throne. Only the most devious and scheming rise to the top, and implement their own twisted plots to consolidate power and keep grinding down the souls of the Imperium's citizens. If we are fighting for humanity, why is it that only the privileged few can reap the benefits of our labors?

The Emperor is dead. He died to save the Imperium that he built, and the mockery of stasis that he is kept in only serves the purposes of those who proclaim to know his will. But he made his will well known to all during his illustrious reign! His ideals of the strength of humanity and the glory of the Imperium live on and it is these ideals that we must fight for, not the bloated and corrupt beaurocracy that rules in his stead.

Let us not forget the example of the mighty Soul Drinkers Chapter, declared Excommunicate Traitoris for fighting against the scheming machinations of the Tech-priests of Mars and the petty ambitions of a Administratum Adept. These heroes of the Imperium, defenders of humanity with a record that stretched back to the Second Founding were cast aside by the Imperium they fought for for thousands of years. They continue to fight against Chaos but are now beset by those that used to call them brother, simply because they now realize that those who rule care not for the truth of the Emperor but only for their own filthy hides.

The Imperium has become corrupt and rotted. We must lance the wound so that the corruption can be drained and healing can truely begin. Only from the ashes can a new future of hope and promise be reborn.

Drogmir
19-12-2007, 23:11
The Emperor is dead


HERESY!!!

Word like this are almost heretical and must be PURGED!!!!!

trigger
19-12-2007, 23:18
Who am I ???

If your not part of the imperium you got to die , simple but effective policy!!!!

Have a nice day :D

logosloki
20-12-2007, 00:04
I voted recongregationalism but its actually a four way battle between istvaanism, recongregationalism, horusian and thorianism. more like an amalgam of their philosophies.

from an RP perspective my beliefs are that the imperium is slowly rotting, the current system cannot help any furthur and must be destroyed(recongregationalism), to do this terra, and more importantly the emperor must die(radical istvaanism) so that he can be reborn and re champine mankind(thorian). But the most important thing is that he cannot be the same emperor, he must be different so that the people will not be tempted into falling back to the old imperium model, such as the purging of psykers and non-humans.(horusian)

Xgladar
20-12-2007, 01:07
That's why Rome- who was always at war wasn't the greatest power of her age.

you mean the rome that was sacked by visigoths because its military was weakened from millennia of warfare?

Sekhmet
20-12-2007, 02:04
Istvaanism reminds me of the Shadow (B5) theory of evolution. I agree with it.

Sekhmet
20-12-2007, 02:05
That's why Rome- who was always at war wasn't the greatest power of her age.

That's a gigantic oversimplification on why the Western Roman Empire didn't last. Constant war was actually a necessity for the Roman Empire. Only when it started to run out of people to conquer did it stagnate, then eventually collapse. :D

2_heads_talking
20-12-2007, 02:32
Radicals Recongregationism

A popular one, it seems, but to me it strikes the most truth;

Brothers, sisters, the Imperium is decaying, and in a sense is dying much like the hated Eldar scum are dying. It is beset on all sides by the foul enemy, both from within and out, yet it will not see the truth, it will not make the changes necessary to rebuild and strengthen, to ensure survival...

If they will not, then we shall; the Imperium must survive the petty beurocracy and schismd that keep us weakened, and we shall be the ones to lead her to that glorious new age.

stormblade
20-12-2007, 02:56
That's a gigantic oversimplification on why the Western Roman Empire didn't last. Constant war was actually a necessity for the Roman Empire. Only when it started to run out of people to conquer did it stagnate, then eventually collapse. :D

I was being sarcastic- that what you've written had been my point.

Baltar
21-12-2007, 15:41
I would be a Monodominant with Thorian sympathies.

The only way humanity can survive is to cleanse the stars, as are the Emperor's orders.

Drogmir
06-01-2008, 05:14
Well it seems we have an almost 3 way tie.

SpaceLanceCorporal
06-01-2008, 21:24
All these philosophies are silly. Only technology and the Machine God can free mankind.

Arhalien
06-01-2008, 21:36
I've voted for Xanthism; the trace of hypocrisy and the wonderful darkness that the actions that followers of that doctrine would perform are just so much more interesting than being a goody-goody puritan ;)
Horusian also sounds good too; and Inquisitor I've been thinking of some fluff for slots into that category perfectly (he believes he has discovered the primarch of one of the lost legions, and through hiding this fact he and his followers hoodwink several million guardsmen into following him and leads them on a crusade throughout the galaxy against imperial forces, claiming they are heretical. Of course in all this he believes he is in the right and that his targets are corrupt and heretical. Yes, I know how to limit my fluff to small events :D)

edit: oh, forgot to say. Thanks for posting up those definitions: I'd never heard of those different schools of though before :)

stormblade
07-01-2008, 11:03
All these philosophies are silly. Only technology and the Machine God can free mankind.


Yes, only through mindless servitude to not so elegant machinery can a man be free.

Warboss Jhura Ironfang
07-01-2008, 23:29
Radical Istvaanism represents me almost to a T. Good job! :evilgrin:

BTW- when I read Xanthism I though you meant Piers Anthony's world. What, do they worship the Good Magician Humphrey? :p

*adopts Inquisitorial voice*

Istvaanism is the only for the Imperium to survive. We must weed out the weak, the mutant that is beyond its usefulness, and the heretic. Those who cannot be of use will be cleansed in the holy fires of Exterminatus! By the way, fellow Inquisitors, I have a vortex grenade in my hand set to a deadman grip, so do not try to eliminate me, as the blast will destroy you as well. Besides, the Immortal Emperor is the greatest result of evolution, so we must strive to be the same! Now go preach my word to the masses so we may bring a bright new chapter into the legacy of Mankind...

Cheerz,
Inquizatur WB Jhura Ironfang

Green-is-best
07-01-2008, 23:54
Istavanism is quite possibly the dumbest idea ever.

to make the world strong we must weaken it!-yeah,great logic there!


/shrug

That's how muscles work. You beat them up until they can't take anymore, then they get stronger. Then you do it again. And then you use some steroids. Then you do it again.

Drogmir
08-01-2008, 05:00
/shrug

That's how muscles work. You beat them up until they can't take anymore, then they get stronger. Then you do it again. And then you use some steroids. Then you do it again.

lol then you use some steroids.

So the Imperium was beat up during the Horus Heresy and got better, then got beat up during the Age of Apotosy (or whatever it's called) and got better.

Then GW made a game about 40K and now SM and IG never loose! Post M41

just as you said!

Wolf Scout Ewan
08-01-2008, 12:54
My ideal would be recongreation, though saying that if I had been born in the imperium I wouldnt probably hold the same ideals. Oooh how deep is that?

Though, my inquisitor would be a bit of a heretic, I would, as would most imho that, they believe that the Emporer would "get better".

The only way the Imperium is going to survive is to come into some kind of mutually beneficial agreement with the less aggressive Alien races. By demystifying technology, reintergrating the different groups and factions within the Imperium.

Psykers, tech, xenos are all tools, we just need to learn how to use them. Chaos cannot be controlled because it isnt something you can just put in a box.

Excellent thread btw!

Drogmir
12-01-2008, 05:55
It seems that my descriptions are more popular than the topic itself.

Chaplain of Chaos
12-01-2008, 07:20
Lord Inquisitors hear me, surely you recognize the value of the power that exists within the Warp. It is the next stage of our human evoluion, we must embrace the power of the warp bend it to our will. Is not mankind the master of all things material and immaterial!?

I say to you my colleagues, what have we to fear from the daemon when we may bind it to our will? It is the Emperors will that we achieve mastery of all that is seen and unseen. Thus it would be folly to deny the resources that exist within the Immaterium, as a Xanthinite I believe I am uniquely capable of making this a reality.

Sidri
12-01-2008, 08:00
Heretics!!!
The only way for mankind is through the cleansing fires of Faith, Zeal and Hate!!! Only righteous extermination of all heretics, mutants and xenos will please Him on Earth!
Be faithful, obedient and watchful for the name of Mankind Enemies is Legion and they always work to undermine, weaken our blessed Imperium. Be vigilant in the face of Evil, for those who stand are truly blessed and those who run away or hide are forever damned...
Thou shalt be dutiful alas be aware of snakes, those who take the guise of servants of Emperor, but hide their venom and forked tongues from the Light. They may try to guile you into heresy - have no fear for destiny of Mankind Enemies is to be purged and annihilated and their lies will vanish under the Light of Emperor!!!

Well, you may have already guessed - Monodominant...

Khaeron Baoth
12-01-2008, 09:07
Humanity needs strong leader, leader with limitless power bound to him. To create powerful leader we need to harness limitless powers of chaos to him. With such leader mankind can master chaos, not to be slave of chaos. And we would not need to worry about xenos. Galaxy will be in peace.

I am Horusian.

Rorschach
12-01-2008, 15:16
Are you all truly that foolish? Why you all squabble, the forces of chaos are getting stronger! We must unite if we are to hold back the Heretic scum that pollute the Imperium! Are you all so blind?

I am Amalathian.


DISCLAIMER: I only chose Amalathian because I accidentally voted for it... I was going to vote for Xanthism.

downundercadet07
12-01-2008, 15:49
Thorianism definately. A puritan inquisitor that can have star children and sensei in his retinue? Or possibly even be a star child or sensei himself? Win. "Yeah, I'm the emperor's great, great, great, great, great grandson, and I'm going to need you to come with me now." "Like hell!" "Oh, I also have a company of grey knights with me. I'll be waiting in the car..."

DioRa
12-01-2008, 16:15
thorian all the way....bring back the Mister E to the galaxy :D

would be funny if we could make gholas of the emperor all the time alla duncan idaho for every time mankind screws up and lets the E get killed....sorry got carried here a bit off...

and just think if the emperor gets back so do the primarchs :rolleyes:

Soulless Enigma
12-01-2008, 16:44
*starts up his his Khornate chainaxe, and butchers the Inquisistors whilst they argue*

"Blood for the Blood."

Though to be honest, after seeing it in action in Eisenhorn, I think mild Amalathianism with a spot of Recongregationism is the way forward for Imperial survival.

Johnnyfrej
13-01-2008, 02:57
Before I get started I would like to point out that I would most likely be a Inquisitorial Stormtrooper rather than a full-blown Inquisitor. I dislike all the political crap you pious Emperor*aquila sign*-lackeys get into, I'm just the guy with the gun :D

Puritans

* Thorianism - Doubtful. The most glorious Emperor *aquila sign* cannot be reincarnated as long as his body remains chained to the Golden Throne.

* Monodominance - Really, really, really, really bad idea(did I say really?). Without psykers we would have no intersteller travel, communication and the ability to navigate the warp. The Imperium would collapse in on itself.

* Amalathianism - Diversity is good, Amalathianism is bad.

Radicals

* Xanthism - Play with fire and you are going to get burnt.

* Horusians - Could have potential. If it could be done I would support it.

* Recongregationism - My personal belief. I mean if your government had made little to no advances in technology or developement within the last ten thousand years I would also be like "Come on guys, :wtf: happened!!!"

* Istvaanism - QFT. I see alien, I kill alien, I see heretic, I burn heretic.

DantesInferno
13-01-2008, 03:02
Though to be honest, after seeing it in action in Eisenhorn, I think mild Amalathianism with a spot of Recongregationism is the way forward for Imperial survival.

But........they're exact opposites!

VanHel
13-01-2008, 04:43
I'd probably be an extremely liberal Thorian.