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Alpharius
20-09-2005, 17:13
Hello!

Does anyone know what the badges look like for:

Lexicanum
Codicer
Epistolary
Cheif Librarian

(And did I get the order right?)

Also, what does the line and arch on their tabards look like for each?

I am *pretty* sure that the "level" of Librarian indicates how many "points" are on the arch... But I'm not completely sure!

Thanks for your help...

Brother Othorio
20-09-2005, 17:29
tabards:
line = lexicanian
line + skull = codicier
line + skull + halo = epistolary
(i dont know if Chief Librarians have a specific tabard)

badges.. i *think* it may be the following, but i wouldnt swear to it
lexicanian = scroll
codicier = book
epistolary = horned skull

CELS
21-09-2005, 12:09
Actually, it's more like this. Tabards:

Lexicanium : Line with half circle.
Codicier: Line with halo (i.e. half circle with spikes)
Epistolary: Line with halo and skull inside halo
I don't think Chief Librarians have a special tabard. Check with how GW painted Tigurius.

Badges:
Lexicanium: Horned skull
Codicier: Horned skull on scroll
Epistolary: Book

No difference in points on arch.

(Source: Codex Ultramarines)

Alpharius
21-09-2005, 14:23
Thanks!

This is just what I was looking for/needed...

Minister
21-09-2005, 14:47
The Chief Librarian, being a unique rank, is generally based on the Epistolary markings with additional embelishment to the armour and the presence of a more personalised banner.

Shas'o'Fior
22-09-2005, 02:13
uh...lexicaniums? is that something pre-4th ed?

Master Fulgrim
22-09-2005, 06:32
Jep. Back in 2nd Ed you had Librarians with different degees of powers, who had also a lot more roles in the fluff, than being a demonkiller.

Fulgrim

Alpharius
22-09-2005, 14:47
Think of it as, basically, level 1 through 4.

Which, coincidentally, was the number of powers they could have, drawn randomly from a stack of cards.

I'm not kidding.

And I really loved the old psychic powers system from 2nd edition! I miss it...

Brother Othorio
22-09-2005, 17:05
interestingly back in RT (at least in Realms of Chaos) the Librarians rank determined if he was a marine/champion/minor or major hero, with the psychic level being independant (so you could have a 1 wound Lexicanian who was a level 4 psyker fighting side-by-side with a 3 wound Major Hero Chief Librarian who was only a level 1 psyker)

fluffwise Lexicanii and Chief Librarians are both still there (see the chapter organisation chart in the IVth edition codex) they just arent in the army list ~ presumably Lexicanians would be too weak and Chief Librarians too powerful