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Lord Aislinn
03-01-2008, 15:33
I'm completely new to high elves, and I've coem up with the following list, what do you guys think?

Archmage 225
Level 4 35, Folariath's robe 45, Talisman of Saphery 35, Silver Wand 10. 350.

Noble 85
Great Weapon 8, Armour of Caledor 25, Guardian Pheonix 25.
143.

21 Spear men 189 (ranks of 7)
Full Command 25, Lion Standard 25. 239

12 Archers 132
Hawkeye 10. 142

12 Archers 132
Hawkeye 10. 142

20 Pheonix Guard 300
Full Command 30, War Banner 20, Amulet of Fire 20. 370

15 Sword Masters 225
Full Command 30, Standard of Sorcerey 50. 305

Tiranoc Chariot 85.

Bolt Thrower 100

Bolt Thrower 100

EvC
03-01-2008, 15:38
I like the list, very neat- but I'd really recommend making the Noble a BSB, you can drop the Phoenix for that price. Another Mage with the Ring of Fury would be ace, but you might not be able to find the space for that.

winkypinky
03-01-2008, 22:15
no.

(And why 10 unit reply limit when the first post obvious should have more in it?)

Please dont make threads that takes longer to make than to reply to, even if it just whining like this.

Semi_Bunny
03-01-2008, 22:16
I'm completely new to high elves, and I've coem up with the following list, what do you guys think?

Archmage 225
Level 4 35, Folariath's robe 45, Talisman of Saphery 35, Silver Wand 10. 350.

I'm not too keen on the high elf magic items but it looks alright for a mage

Noble 85
Great Weapon 8, Armour of Caledor 25, Guardian Pheonix 25.
143.

You're probably better off either mounting this guy or making him the BSB...or both. He'll be more beneficial to the whole army that way

21 Spear men 189 (ranks of 7)
Full Command 25, Lion Standard 25. 239

I'd honestly run these in 4 ranks of 5 or of 6, because spearmen arent very powerful and maximizing their attacks wont help them win as much. Spearmen are much better at winning through static CR than attacks.

12 Archers 132
Hawkeye 10. 142

12 Archers 132
Hawkeye 10. 142

Drop both of these units to 10 each and get rid of the hawkeye, you really dont need the extra two or the champs

20 Pheonix Guard 300
Full Command 30, War Banner 20, Amulet of Fire 20. 370

This unit looks alright but its a little pricey for a 2k point army. Maybe move them down to 15

15 Sword Masters 225
Full Command 30, Standard of Sorcerey 50. 305

This unit also looks a little pricey, but I believe with the points you would be better off with Dragon princes. You need more faster movers and speed in the army in general. The dragon princes will also hit harder (on the charge, especially if you add the noble to the unit) and wont die as easily to shooting as the swordmasters will. Your preference though on this swap because if you already have the models you probably dont want to go out and get new ones.

Tiranoc Chariot 85.

This looks fine, I personally like lion chariots but if you prefer tiranoc or thats just how you assembled it, it will do a fine job.

Bolt Thrower 100

Bolt Thrower 100

These look okay but I would consider adding in an eagle or two at 50 points each. You might have some free points from the changes above and the eagles will add some march blocking, redirecting, and war machine/mage hunting to your army.





My overall suggestions are simply to increase the mobility of your army and lighten up some of those elite infantry units on the points as they could possibly fall victim to shooting before they get in combat (especially the swordmasters). Both of these changes will do you much better if you are up against a shooting or magic heavy army.

Another mage also wouldnt be a bad thing for more magic versatility and defense if you can free up the points anywhere, but it wont be completely necessary unless your up against a lot of big magic armies.

Dragon Prince of Caledor
05-01-2008, 16:38
I like to have more units personally. Since he are so expensive naturally they are smaller units. I think u need dragon princes.
My general idea of how my list will be (just a ball park list)

Archmage
l4 100pts of magic items
bsb on horse lance blah blah no magic banner
noble on foot with great weapon armour of caledor and guardian phoenix.

20 spearmen command
12 archers

5 dragon princes
banner+wb
15 phoenix guard with command
15 white lions with command, lion standard, gem of courage
10 swordmasters

2 great eagles
2 bolt throwers.

That should be around 2000pts. Shooting, elites, fast moving, eagles for march blocks + war machine crew and magic coming out of a ying yang.

It will be hard for me to ever come up with a "list" because I like playing more themed armies and/or using crazy things like dragon mages.
Good luck!

One-S
05-01-2008, 16:50
Looks like a fun list to play with.
You can finetune it a little.
Units of 15 or 20 are OK, but elfs stand on small bases, you might want to consider to play them with 6 models wide frontages.The extra attacks in the front rank are worth it, especially sinds you ALWAYS strike first.
Drop the hawkeyes of the archers.
You've got a warbanner in your phoenix guard (+2 static CR), You can drop a rank of them and still have a descent static CR (6 wide frontage, 2 ranks = 18 models, 17 models if you put only 5 models in the last rank).
Play Swordmasters in units of 12 (1rank, 6wide) or 12 (7 in the front, 5 to get a rank).

One-S
05-01-2008, 16:57
2 great eagles
2 bolt throwers.


In the new book, boltthrowers and eagles aren't 2 to 1 anymore.
2 eagles are 2 rare slots now, the same counts for 2 boltthrowers.

Rekmar
05-01-2008, 17:13
In the new book, boltthrowers and eagles aren't 2 to 1 anymore.
2 eagles are 2 rare slots now, the same counts for 2 boltthrowers.

Yes but at 2000pts HE now get 4 rare slots / choices, so this is fine.

@Lord Aislinn - The only advice that I'd give you would be to change teh archmage to either a Prince and a mage or a pair of mages. One lucky shot means that you lose your entire magic capability...

Dominatrix
05-01-2008, 17:13
HE have access to 4 rare slots so nothing illegal about 2 bolt throwers and 2 eagles.

i am chaos
05-01-2008, 20:02
your list is good but you do need to get rid of the hawkeyes because they are 10pts each and if i remember they are only 1bs more i think