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Getz
03-01-2008, 23:57
Hi all.

Well, with my loyalist Guard armies all more or less finished, my Orks in stasis and having lost interest in my Marine Army, I've decided to turn my attention to sprucing up and finishing off my Traitor Guard.

Previously I have run this army as a Blood Pact force based on the Lost and the Damned list. However, with Codex Eye of Terror becoming defunct once and for all, I've decided to convert the army over to the Vraksian Renegade Militia list at the back of Imperial Armour vol 5. At the same time I've decided to completely revamp the army background and make the army a bit more unique.

The idea is that the List represents the debased remnants of an Inquisitorially inducted Imperial Guard Regiment who have followed their master into worshipping the dark powers.

The Inquisitor is a radical follower of the Istvaannite creed that only through turmoil and conflict can the Imperium remain strong. However, his fascination with war and destruction has lead him onto the path of worshipping Khorne. At this stage the army bears no gifts of Khorne - worshipping him primarily in his aspect as a God of war rather than outright slaughter - and shows little outward sign of their corruption except for the odd Heretical symbol here and there. However, the Regiment has been declared diabolis extremis and is forced to raid for supplies, equipment and even new recruits - press-ganging civilians from wherever they make planetfall and forcing them to fight in large, poorly organised mobs, whilst those who swear devotion to the Regiment are bullied into slightly more organised Infantry squads with a lasrifle thrust into their hands. Over and above all this are the Inquisitors personal bodyguard, who are either assigned to Infantry Platoons to keep order by whatever means necessary, or are organised into elite teams and equipped with the very best equipment available where they act as fast strike forces.

The new (3000 point) army list is as follows...

HQ:
Command Platoon:
Exalted Champion with Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon and Carapace Armour
Veteran with Laspistol, Close Combat Weapon and Chaos Banner
Veteran with Laspistol and Demolition Charge
Trooper with Flamer
Trooper with Vox, Laspistol and Close Combat Weapon

Enforcer with Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon and Carapace Armour
Apostate Priest with Bolt Pistol and Power Weapon
Rogue Psyker with Close Combat Weapon

Anti-tank Squad with three Lascannon Teams

Anti-tank Squad with three Lascannon Teams

Fire Support Squad with three Autocannon Teams

Fire Support Squad with three Autocannon Teams

Elites:
Ordo Malleus Inquisitor:
Inquisitor with Plasma Pistol and Power Weapon
Veteran Guardsman with Plasma Gun
Veteran Guardsman with Plasma Gun
Gun Servitor with Plasma Cannon
Hierophant
Mystic
Mystic

Disciples:
Veteran Sergeant with Bolt Pistol and Power Weapon
Three Disciples with Melta Guns
Disciple with Shotgun and Vox
Five Disciples with Shotguns

Disciples:
Veteran Sergeant with Bolter
Three Disciples with Plasma Guns
Disciple with Lasgun and Vox
Five Disciples with Lasguns

Troops:
Infantry Platoon:
Champion with Bolt Pistol and Power Weapon
Veteran with Shotgun and Demolition Charge
Veteran with Shotgun and Demolition Charge
Trooper with Meltagun
Trooper with Vox and Shotgun
Frag Grenades for Squad

Enforcer with Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon, Carapace Armour and Frag
Grenades
Apostate Priest with Eviscerator
Rogue Psyker with Shotgun and Frag Grenades

Infantry Squad:
Veteran Sergeant with Sniper Rifle and Bolt Pistol
Missile Launcher Team
Trooper with Plasma Gun
Trooper with Vox and Lasgun

Infantry Squad:
Veteran Sergeant with Sniper Rifle and Bolt Pistol
Missile Launcher Team
Trooper with Plasma Gun
Trooper with Vox and Lasgun

Infantry Squad:
Veteran Sergeant with Bolter
Heavy Stubber Team
Trooper with Grenade Launcher
Trooper with Vox and Lasgun

Infantry Squad:
Veteran Sergeant with Bolter
Heavy Stubber Team
Trooper with Grenade Launcher
Trooper with Vox and Lasgun

Armoured Fist Squad:
Veteran Sergeant with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon
Missile Launcher Team
Trooper with Flamer
Trooper with Vox and Shotgun
Transport: Chimera with Multilaser, Heavy Flamer, pintle
mounted Heavy Stubber, Rough Terrain Modification, Extra
Armour and Smoke Launchers

Armoured Fist Squad:
Veteran Sergeant with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat Weapon
Missile Launcher Team
Trooper with Flamer
Trooper with Vox and Shotgun
Transport: Chimera with Multilaser, Heavy Flamer, pintle
mounted Heavy Stubber, Rough Terrain Modification, Extra
Armour and Smoke Launchers

Workers Rabble:
Two Troopers with Flamers
Eighteen Troopers with Laspistols and Close Combat Weapons

Workers Rabble:
Two Troopers with Flamers
Eighteen Troopers with Laspistols and Close Combat Weapons

Fast Attack:
Hellhound with Inferno Cannon, Hull Heavy Bolter, Pintle Mounted Heavy
Stubber, Rough Terrain Modification, Extra Armour and Smoke
Launchers

Salamander Scout with Autocannon, Hull Heavy Bolter, Pintle Mounted Heavy
Stubber, Improved Comms, Extra Armour and Smoke
Launchers

Heavy Support:
Heavy Weapons Platoon:
Champion with Sniper Rifle and Bolt Pistol
Heavy Bolter Team
Trooper with Plasma Gun
Trooper with Vox and Lasgun

Enforcer with Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon, and Carapace Armour

Mortar Squad with three Mortar Teams

Mortar Squad with three Mortar Teams

Mortar Squad with three Mortar Teams

Basilisk with Earthshaker Cannon, Hull Heavy Bolter and Indirect Fire

Basilisk with Earthshaker Cannon, Hull Heavy Bolter and Indirect Fire

As is customary with my Project Logs, the Green Stuff is finished (or as finished as I can be arsed to get it for now), the Yellow stuff is constructed but not painted and the Red Stuff is under construction.

Getz
04-01-2008, 00:01
Anyway, I expect you want to see some pictures.

First up, some of the armour.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0580.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0548.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0550.jpg

this stuff has been finished for some time and I'm rather pleased with the way it came out, so I'm loathe to repaint it. As such, red will probably remain the base colour for the Regiment, even if I change the infantry uniforms a bit...

Getz
04-01-2008, 00:10
And now for some infantry:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0601.jpg

This is the command section, less it's advisors. Since this picture was taken I have finished building the Exalted Champion and the missing veteran, but they're all far from painted.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0602.jpg

The Infantry command section.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0603.jpg

A close up of the Champion, who was made out of a spare FW officer torso I had lying about.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0604.jpg

The Enforcers, who are made from a mixture of Chaos marine and Cadian bits. These guys used to be Aspiring Champions in the old list, hence the bulky armour and why I've given them Carapace armour now. The heads are new, and come from a Company called Pig Iron Productions (http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/)for a very reasonable 3 for 20. I'm also using them on my disciples to make the Elite Bodyguard units stand out.

Getz
04-01-2008, 00:14
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0605.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0606.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0608.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0610.jpg

The infantry squads. Again, I've tinkered with these guys a bit since I took these pictures, equiping the Sarges with sniper Rifles and making on of the squads a new plasma gun made out of a Chaos Plasma Pistol and a Lasgun. I should have some new pictures soon so you'll be able to see the squads in their final form

Getz
04-01-2008, 00:16
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0609.jpg

My Autocannon team, showing the urban basing I intend to use for this army.

Again, the heads come from Pig Iron, and as you can see the Rank and file get rather more basic kit...

Triggerdog
04-01-2008, 00:36
I love that champion but where did you get the head? at first I thought it was a marine head but I wasnt sure because of the scale.

dr.oetk3r
04-01-2008, 00:43
Nice army! Pig iron heads right?

Keep up the good work.

Eater of Small Things
04-01-2008, 05:38
I was hoping to see someone do a renegade militia army using Pig Iron heads. Did you have to cut them down to make them fit on the cadian torsos? Look forward to seeing them painted!

EmMeTt
04-01-2008, 05:51
I love the Autocannon teams bases. The Pig Iron heads look great. Keep them coming, mate.

DarkSoldier
04-01-2008, 09:13
Aye, they look good. I'm using Militia heads for my own renegade Guard.

Easy E
04-01-2008, 10:45
I was thinking about using some of those same heads for a traitor force. They look swish. Are your enforcer heads from Pig Iron as well?

Getz
04-01-2008, 14:09
I love that champion but where did you get the head? at first I thought it was a marine head but I wasnt sure because of the scale.

It's part of the Renegade Militia head set from Pig Iron. You get six "womble" gas masks and four other rebreather heads on each sprue of ten. I've tried to give officers and Veterans the rebreathers a) to mae them stand out a bit and b) because the gasmasks would be very restrictive of peripheral vision and I honestly can't see a Veteran putting up with that for long...


I was hoping to see someone do a renegade militia army using Pig Iron heads. Did you have to cut them down to make them fit on the cadian torsos? Look forward to seeing them painted!

Actually, the fit on very, very easily. Almost as if they were made for them... :eyebrows::angel:


I was thinking about using some of those same heads for a traitor force. They look swish. Are your enforcer heads from Pig Iron as well?

Yes they are, they're Kolony Inner Guard heads. Initially I bought a big bag with a single sprue of each of Pig Iron's head ranges in it and I was quite taken with them. I think they look quite sinister, don't you?

Luke
04-01-2008, 16:35
I love the ways these guys look. Th sm bodies on those guys look pretty cool and the heads are fantastic, I gotta check them out sometime.

tinfoil
04-01-2008, 17:12
Great start on what looks like a potentially fun and characterful army. I like the background fluff a lot, and look forward to following your progress.

No Malcador? Seems as though one would fit in nicely.

Mr Feral
04-01-2008, 17:45
Nice conversions!
I like the colour scheme, but then again my Renegades and Heretics (http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101940) are done the same way :p. I like the use of alternate heads, they definitely make them far more sinister looking.

Getz
04-01-2008, 21:17
No Malcador? Seems as though one would fit in nicely.

Umm maybe... :angel:

I've got four Leman Russ' and a squadron of Stalk Tanks to go with these boys as well. I was thinking I might put together a Renegade Armoured Company to go with them and having a pair of Malcadors as the centrepiece...

In order to make the army look a bit less "Blood Pacty" I've come up with a camoflage scheme for the armies fatigues. It basically requires me to put Snakebite Leather, olive green and black splodges over the Scab red base. It's inspired by a kids camoflaged parka I saw in town today and I've tried a couple of test models to see how it looks. Pictures as soon as they've dried.

Ishmael
04-01-2008, 23:47
Everything is looking great. I especially like your choice in heads, and also the heavy weapon bases. Can't wait to see the test camo scheme.

::Subscribed::

Da Reddaneks
05-01-2008, 00:06
Very nice getz. You dont see enough chaos / renegade guard armies out there. One thing i do like about the guard codex is that nothing in it explicitely makes one scream, "for the emperor!" You can make a fluffy chaos guard army just as well. And quite frankly, with far superior conversion possibilities.

Good job there. I look forward to seeing more.

Colonel Stagler
05-01-2008, 03:05
pig iron seems to be the way to go for renegades and heretics nowadays ! nice stuff there Brigadier Getz, keep up the good work mate!
Stagler Out

Easy E
05-01-2008, 10:33
I think the heads make them look Nurgely myself. Perhaps a more putrescent color scheme is in order?

Go, go, renegade AC!

Getz
05-01-2008, 15:54
Okay, Update time...

First up, some pictures of a WIP infantry squad, chosen because they show off the camoflage quite well...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0616.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0621.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0620.jpg

This last one has a plasma gun converted out of a Chaos Plasma pistol and a lasgun.

Getz
05-01-2008, 15:57
And now for an actually finished model...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0611.jpg

This is the test model for the new colour scheme. As you can see he has blackened steel armour and I've inked everything to darken up the finish.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0612.jpg

Viewed from the other side you can see the squad markings, which I managed to cock up. Being the officer for the Heavy Weapons Platoon command section it should read 710, not 711...

Luke
05-01-2008, 16:01
Its amazing. The whole look of the cadian plastics can be changed entirely with the simple swapping of the head.


Loving the camo scheme by the way, its very cool. that dude looks frikking hard-core.



edit----

5 stars for you!

Getz
05-01-2008, 16:02
Next up, my Disciples...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0613.jpg

This is my WIP Plasma equipped Disciples squad. One of them was fully painted as the first test model for the army.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0614.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0615.jpg

This guy retains the plain red overalls and I am currently undecided as to whether the Disciples should keep the red overalls to make them stand out, or go with the camo look. Opinions sought...

Mr Feral
05-01-2008, 16:02
That's some mean looking Renegades you've got there. The camoflage looks much better toned down and the blackened armour fits the gritty appearance you've got there. Well done and I'm anticipating the rest.

Getz
05-01-2008, 16:07
And just to round things off, a few other bits and bobs...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0623.jpg

The Company Command squad, still less it's Preacher and Psyker (who should be arriving in the post any day...)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0624.jpg

The finished Enforcer, although he might need a little ink work here and there to flatten down the metallics...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0626.jpg

One of the Bassies. It's sort of nearly but no quite finished - most of the work has been done but there's a bunch of little things I could do to make it look better. The other looks largely the same. I would like to make a crew for them, but not have enough spare guard bits at the moment. I'm also considering putting some camo on the tanks but haven't any good ideas how to do it. Any thoughts?

Luke
05-01-2008, 16:13
An even darker, near black perhaps? Big broad bands would look good. Loving that Khorne symbol on the shield. Looks good.

Ishmael
05-01-2008, 18:45
Great stuff, Getz. Tell me, what color did you paint that missile the loader is carrying in the second picture on this page?

anselminus
05-01-2008, 19:01
on your tank if you want a rusty aspect, you can use a bestial brown with a lot of water,
do a test because i don't know of it's good with your colors:)

Getz
05-01-2008, 20:56
Great stuff, Getz. Tell me, what color did you paint that missile the loader is carrying in the second picture on this page?

Tamiya Olive Green

A13X
07-01-2008, 10:37
Bah, traitors, where is your faith in the Emperor?

Nice work though, keep it up.

I really like the plasma gun guy and the tanks are pretty awsome aswell.

Great Stuff!

Easy E
07-01-2008, 11:01
Nice... Traitors are full of win and awesome.

These guys seem like a very well equipped traitor force. That's a change from how most of the other traitor forces out there look.

Getz
07-01-2008, 11:14
The idea is that they're a bona-fide Guard Regiment dragged into Heresy by their Inquisitorial Master. They were well equipped and they know how to keep their weapons working up to a point, but if you look you'll notice that the army relys heavily on logistically undemanding weapons like Lasers, flamers, autocannons and Heavy Stubbers (notice also that all their vehicles are based on the common as muck Chimera Chassis). The only thing that stretches credibility in my mind is the proponderance of plasma, but even then Plasma weapons run on replenishable hydrogen flasks rather than expensive munitions - and besides, most of my armies are plasma light, so I though I'd indulge this time...

Lord Cook
07-01-2008, 14:59
All very nice. The infantry have a really unique feel thanks to the different heads. I look forward to seeing these traitorous scum completed.

Getz
07-01-2008, 20:28
Just a quick update this time.

First of all, the Apostate Preachers arrived in the post...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0627.jpg

They are, of course, Necromunda Redemtionists. I think that if such a thing as a Khornate Preacher exists, then they would be virtually indistinguisable from Redemptionist - after all, don't the Redemptionists Kill, Maim and Burn for the Emperor!

I'm quite taken with these guys and have decided to include them in the Regiments backstory a bit - the idea being that the Preachers come from an apocalytic Khorne-cult who wish to plunge the universe into a bloodbath of anarchy and barbarism so as to purge it of the weak. This sounded rather close to the Inquistor's philosophy, so under the pretense of wishing to destroy the cult, he commandeered a Regiment and a Grand Cruiser and set off in search of them. The Inquisitor swallowed their doctrine lock stock and barrel and now seeks to spread it across the Imperium...

Now, the WIP Chaos Standard...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0629.jpg

The idea here is that the Standard is actually the defiled tatters of the Regimental Standard - but before I can defile it, I have to come up with the Regiment's colours. This is my first attempt.

Across the top it reads "108th Morian," which is the regiment's original designation - Moria being a world I've made up where the Regiments are noted as being dutiful and obedient rather than pious...

I'll add the remnants of some Imperial Iconography across the bottom where the banner is torn up to make it look as if it has been purposely defaced, then dirty the whole thing up and crudely paint a huge Chaos symbol over the top. I'll also add a few trophies to the crossbar (there are some thongs moulded into the banner I can dangle them off) including the head of the Commanding Officer (from the Ork Boys sprue...)

Mr Feral
07-01-2008, 20:42
Good choice of classic figures with the Apostate Preachers / Priests, that first one with the old style bolt pistol and curved sword is awesome. You banner looks great at the moment, good luck with that one.

Triggerdog
07-01-2008, 20:49
finally a renegade army that actually has Disciples of Xaphan in it. Your army now has the triggerdog stamp of arroval.

this is Trigger the Corgi of doom and he approves of your army.

Getz
07-01-2008, 23:14
I've been fiddling with the Banner a bit. The first thing you should notice is the spangly new chaos star on top of the standard... (it looks wonky, bit it's not. Thats wide angle lens distortion...)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0630.jpg

As you can see here, they've bolted the Chaos Icon onto the defaced remnants of the Imperial Aquila, the dirty Heretics!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0631.jpg

The sharp eyed may also have noticed that I've renamed the regiment's home planet, opting for Medea (named for Jason's wife in classical mythology, who flipped out and murdered their kids when he left her alone for years on end and went whoring with his mates around the Adriatic - alledgedly in order to find some valuble sheep fur) instead of Moria. It occured to me that Moria looks and sounds a lot like Mordia, and I wanted to avoid that.

Getz
10-01-2008, 20:06
Another quick update...

Some more bits arrived in the post so I've been able to put together the three warriors in the the Inquisitors Retinue. Ask you can see I've modelled them to be the same as the Enforcers, the idea being that they're both part of the same "elite within the elite" bodyguard unit.

Also, Veteran Guardsmen and Guns Servitors both get BS4 and Carapace, just like my Enforcers...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0635.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0636.jpg

The Plasma cannon comes from the Necromunda Van Saar range, and the rest is just stock bits and pieces I had lying around. The Plasma Cannon guy needs a little bit of GS work around the hands especially, but on the whole they're finished and waiting for paint...

Lord Cook
11-01-2008, 16:07
I like them a lot, but I'm not sure the guy in the middle needs a 40mm base. Are you planning on adding anything special to the base?

As for the actual models themselves, I think they look exactly how elite bodyguards should look. The marine torsos really give them that necessary 'bulky' look.

Getz
11-01-2008, 17:34
You're quite right, he doesn't need a 40mm base, but as all my other heavies are mounted on 40mm or bigger bases, I though I'd be consistant and give myself the oppotunity to do a scenic base.

Apologist
11-01-2008, 18:59
A dead gritty looking force I like it very much. The Pig Iron heads make a surprising difference to the cadian troopers, and you've done a great job building on the difference with nicely selected pieces like the backpacks.

The bodyguard in particular are really well executed; distinctive and cool. They're recognisable and fitting for 40k, but at the same time not obviously conversions: very impressive!

If there were a change I was forced to make, I'd swap the bodyguard's legs for legs from the scout sprue. You can pick 'em up from Wookie Hole for 3.50 for a set of five, and they'd fit nicely with the carapace.

Captain Brown
11-01-2008, 19:10
Subscribing to the thread. Neat to see another take on the Chaos Militia. Keep it up.

Captain Brown

Getz
11-01-2008, 19:15
A dead gritty looking force – I like it very much. The Pig Iron heads make a surprising difference to the cadian troopers, and you've done a great job building on the difference with nicely selected pieces like the backpacks.

The bodyguard in particular are really well executed; distinctive and cool. They're recognisable and fitting for 40k, but at the same time not obviously conversions: very impressive!

Thanks!


If there were a change I was forced to make, I'd swap the bodyguard's legs for legs from the scout sprue. You can pick 'em up from Wookie Hole for 3.50 for a set of five, and they'd fit nicely with the carapace.

If I were starting from scratch I'd proabably do just that - in fact I'd proabably base the Enforcers and Bodyguard entirely on the Plastic Scout kit if I was starting over...

Getz
15-01-2008, 22:45
Okay, less a few details like the basing, the command squad is complete...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0637.jpg

The Standard bearer: I'm in two minds as to whether I should paint a big Chaos Icon over the standard or leave it as it is - I rather like it the way it is, you see... What do you guys think?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0638.jpg

Vox operator, Trooper with a flamer and Veteran with a Demo Charge: I'm especially pleased with the Vox operator for some reason...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0639.jpg

The Exalted Champion and Enforcer:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0640.jpg

Still missing is the Apostate Preacher, who is about half done, and the Rogue Psyker who still hasn't arrived in the post...

boogle
16-01-2008, 01:40
some of the semi bare heads look great, more than good enough to do Savlar Chem Dogs

Colonel Haizelhoff
16-01-2008, 11:57
I like the camouflage choice

Mr Feral
16-01-2008, 12:12
Impressive stuff so far.
On the banner, I think it would look better with a half-Chaos star or perhaps some heretical graffitti text.

Getz
17-01-2008, 11:33
I was thinking I might just obscure the Imperial aquila with a Chaos symbol, implying that the Regiment still identifies itself as a unified force, merely with a new alignment...

sainthale1988
17-01-2008, 12:05
love this thread. I have always liked tratour guard armies (despite being a fanatic supporter of imperium and a puritantical outlook with the inquisition). will be keeping an eye on this thread. keep up the good work!

Getz
17-01-2008, 21:19
Okay, Question Guys.

I've been thinking about putting a Salamander Scout into the the list instead of a second Hellhound. This would give me something to run out and exploit flanks or grab objectives and save me a few points into the bargain.

I also have never made a Salamander and converting one up might be fun.

What do you reckon - should I do it or should I stick with the Hellhound?

boogle
17-01-2008, 22:15
The Salamander Scout is a very fun vehicle to play with, i'm planning on taking 2 as part of a Recon Formation in my apocalypse army

sainthale1988
17-01-2008, 23:40
hellhounds are incredible! save your salamander to be the command vehicle for an artillary battery in apocolypse! any chance of some pics though?

dr.oetk3r
17-01-2008, 23:45
Man, great stuff!

Getz
18-01-2008, 11:04
I've been having a bit of a think, and it occured to me tht I could do this:

By loosing the Inquisitor and his retinue from the regular list and dropping the Unholy Icon (which I've come to the conlusion never works as well as it sounds like it should) I get enough points to take two more Infantry squads, which I then give the chimeras currently allocated to the Disciples.

The disciples function as infiltrating foot troops from now on, I get 20 extra renegades as a mobile reserve and the list still fits inside 3000 points...

The Inquisitor and his retinue still get made, but only come out to play in special games.

What do you all think? I've got some spare catachan/cadian hybrid guardsmen left over from another aborted army that I can use to make up the balance of the models. All they'll need is some new heads...

Easy E
18-01-2008, 15:44
I'd like to see the cadian/catachan mdoels in need of heads before commenting. On a lark I would say more infantry is good, but the Inquisitor adds more character to the army.

sturmtruppe
19-01-2008, 02:16
Looks good

Qdeu
19-01-2008, 09:31
Trully epic stuff, five stars and subscribed:D

Chatto
22-01-2008, 09:30
Loving this heretic army so far. Oh... wait... Pig-Iron heads with Krieg or Heretic models... mmmm... tasty!!! *Proceeds to suffer poisoning from so much resin*...

Eh hem, anyway, you're heretics are winning in a big way, keep it up!

Getz
24-01-2008, 13:06
Hi there all.

No update I'm afraid, but rather a little bad news. I'm redecorating my home so modelling and stuff has been pushed onto the back burner a bit and this log is probably going to go quiet for a week or two.

Still. thanks for all the encouragement and comments, and I promise I'll get back into action as soon as the house is back in order...

Qdeu
24-01-2008, 14:15
Redecorating means removing as much stuff as possible to create a gaming room right?:D

Getz
29-01-2008, 23:19
Okay, I'n more or less back in business now - so here's some stuff that I've been working on in my spare time...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0632.jpg

Three Mortar Teams. I have all the parts for the remaining six, but no large bases to put them on and GW has stopped selling them in packs. :mad:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0634.jpg

The Heavy Weapons platoon command squad. The guy without arms will eventually get a plasma gun when my FW Rengeade arms finally show up...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0633.jpg

And finally, the Inquisitor himself... He really needs a name. Any suggestions?

Mr Feral
30-01-2008, 00:27
Good progress. I like the inclusion of Mortars, but I'm not so sure on the tall backpack thingys (the word escapes me ;)) I can't think of any name suggestions for the Inquisitor, but I think some tattoos across his face would look neat.

Lord Cook
30-01-2008, 00:49
Names for a radical inquisitor? How about "Scott Shawn DeRocks" or "Quint S. Henschel"?

Sorry.

Codsticker
30-01-2008, 01:36
I know a fellow with the last name Darkangelo (I'm not positive of the spelling but it's pronounced dar-KAN-jello :D). I always thought it would be a suitable 40K name, even if it is close to dark Angel.

Imp of High Noon
30-01-2008, 02:10
I've just finished Gormenghast, and come away with a fondness for the name Barquentine for an inquisitor. Also Faust, who germanic legend has it made a pact with the Devil Mephistopheles, who agreed to serve him until such a time as Faust reached ultimate happiness, then of course his soul would be forfeit. So anyway, Lord Inquisitor Barquentine Faust.

Getz
30-01-2008, 09:12
Good progress. I like the inclusion of Mortars, but I'm not so sure on the tall backpack thingys (the word escapes me ;)) I can't think of any name suggestions for the Inquisitor, but I think some tattoos across his face would look neat.

The backpack thingys are rangefinders. What you see above is not actually a complete battery, but rather half of one and the "command" group of another. Once I'm finished each mortar squad will have a rangefinder and a vox included, even though they have no game effect.


I've just finished Gormenghast, and come away with a fondness for the name Barquentine for an inquisitor. Also Faust, who germanic legend has it made a pact with the Devil Mephistopheles, who agreed to serve him until such a time as Faust reached ultimate happiness, then of course his soul would be forfeit. So anyway, Lord Inquisitor Barquentine Faust.

Barquentine Faust... hmm... <strokes chin> I like it.

sainthale1988
30-01-2008, 09:37
Three Mortar Teams. I have all the parts for the remaining six, but no large bases to put them on and GW has stopped selling them in packs. :mad:

And finally, the Inquisitor himself... He really needs a name. Any suggestions?

i've got loads of large bases from my guard army that i don't use. want them?

faust just remindes me of panzerfaust.... mmmmm inquisitor bazoka. not a very constructive comment but hey.

Getz
30-01-2008, 12:18
i've got loads of large bases from my guard army that i don't use. want them?

Ooh! Yes please! I'll PM you about this...

Getz
14-02-2008, 22:43
Right, a little bit of an update.

First up, thanks to sainthale1988, I've been able to sort out the missing Lascannon and get some mortars made up.

Second, I've remodelled my Catachan guys and folded them into the army, so now I've got two Armoured Fist Squads without having to buy any more models... Huzzah

And finally, I just about got all fourty workers rabble built.

Pictures tomorrow hopefully.

sainthale1988
14-02-2008, 22:50
glad to be of service. anything else your looking for ask. with mail order parts out trading is going to be the only way forward from know on.
what are workers rabble?
very interested in the catachans, as i'd like to re organise some i have into a urban gang conscript platoon for my loyalists.
looking forward to next update (with pics?)

Getz
15-02-2008, 09:12
Workers Rabble are conscripts, except they only have a 6+ save and can take laspistol and CCW at no cost. I have modelled mine to mostly be armed with tools of one sort or another.

Lord Cook
15-02-2008, 17:18
Workers Rabble are conscripts, except they only have a 6+ save and can take laspistol and CCW at no cost. I have modelled mine to mostly be armed with tools of one sort or another.

Which actually makes them vastly superior to normal conscripts. Twice as many attacks in return for a decreased armour save that you will still hardly ever get to use. And they get much cheaper flamers as well. IG conscripts pay 50% more for the same weapon.

Any pictures of the rabble?

Mr Feral
15-02-2008, 17:27
Workers Rabble only have a 6+ armour save. Hmm interesting...

I agree with the Lord Cook, we demands pictures now you've teased us with your talk of tool-wielding cannon-fodder :p

Getz
16-02-2008, 16:19
Okay...

Behold, my workers rabble

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0642.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0641.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0643.jpg

They're armed with a mixture of Machete's, entrenching tools, hand axes, clubs and other miscellaneous tools, plus the odd chainsword or combat knife.

Luke
16-02-2008, 16:21
Hmmmmmm, fleshy! :D Looking quite sick there, get em finished!

Colonel Haizelhoff
16-02-2008, 16:34
Truly magnificent! Although they lack the 200 more to make a difference:p.

Imperium Ordo Malleus
16-02-2008, 16:48
ok, first of, i have to say i love your guardsmen, they look very much the traitors, the pig iron heads and other conversions look cool and do them great justice as renegades as does the paint scheme, its your vehicles im not sure about, they could do with some more conversion work to make them look more renegade in keeping with your troops.

great stuff though. :)

Mr Feral
16-02-2008, 17:08
Mad props for Worker's Rabble!
Painting cheap cannon fodder might drive you a bit mad though :p
I like the tools, they're cool. What parts did you use?

Colonel Stagler
16-02-2008, 17:24
gonner take yer a while to take a chunk out of that workers rabble mate, good stuff tho getz mate!
Stagler Out

Getz
17-02-2008, 02:56
They'll probably be the last units that I paint, although I'll probably keep them simple to speed up painting them.

The tools come from a variety of places, but are mostly either the spade and pick from the tank accessory sprue or the entrenching tool from the heavy weapons crew sprue. The axes, clubs an machetes come from the Empire militia kit and the hammer and starting handle come from the Baneblade kit.

Getz
23-02-2008, 19:01
Right, my FW order finally arrived in the post, giving me a pair of Rogue Psykers and a pack of renegade arms.

I've been busy converting up some of my guardsmen with autoguns and have assembled and started painting my psykers. Pictures tomorrow.

Getz
12-03-2008, 14:51
Gah! Sorry everyone, I've been rubbish and not taken the pictures I promised. However, I have put together the salamander, so i'll try and get pictures of it and of the Psykers up before the end of the week.

Catferret
12-03-2008, 14:57
Gah! Sorry everyone, I've been rubbish and not taken the pictures I promised. However, I have put together the salamander, so i'll try and get pictures of it and of the Psykers up before the end of the week.

Just see that you do mister! :mad:

:p

Faolan
12-03-2008, 15:10
Pretty. Faolan want more pictury goodness to kill his internet.

PICTURE NOW!

kiwichild
12-03-2008, 15:46
Wow! The workers rabble is amazing. The pig iron heads are the iceing on the cake, I`m convinced to get some now! They are mostly a mix of catachan, cadians and empire milita, right? I am making some another batch of broodbrothers at the moment and these pups will definately be a source of inspiration, thank you:D

Mr Feral
12-03-2008, 16:29
Would these be the FW Renegade Psykers?

*commences waiting*

I love this project, it's so grimy (in a good way of course :p)

FurryMiguell
13-03-2008, 22:11
oh, not again! this is one of those where I get the "why didnt I think of that first" feel every time I scroll to a new picture! this is just too cool! which forces a question to my head: why is there no such cool converted armies in my gaming club!?

and talking about heads, do you have a link to a web-page or something where I can see those heads with original minis?

I really liked the workers with guns. they look like, well... workers with guns! great work(ers):D

Cheers!

Getz
16-03-2008, 13:48
Some are born Lame, some rise to Lameness and other have their Lameness thrust upon them.

I'm definately falling in the later camp this week. However, after the batterys in my camera running out and two days without an internet connection, finally here are some pictures...

Rogue Psykers

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0646.jpg

One is converted from a regular Psyker and the one clutching his head will end up as a mystic in my inquisitors retinue.

My Salamander.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0645.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0644.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Blood%20Pact/DSCN0648.jpg

Needs a little work here and there, but it's nearly ready for the paintshop.

Catferret
16-03-2008, 13:58
That Salamamnder looks far better than the FW in my opinion. The cage around the rear and pintle weapon mounted higher up works far better I think.

For that cage, did you heat the plastic rod before bending it? If so, what did you use to heat it with?

Colonel Haizelhoff
16-03-2008, 14:33
Nice stuff mate. The salamander is great and I like the psykers.

Infernal_devices
16-03-2008, 17:30
very cool army. I like the camo, looks dirty and gritty, without being overly heretical.

what are you counting the worker rabble as?

Faolan
17-03-2008, 01:32
Love the Salamander! LOVE it.

Now make me a few. Pwease?

Getz
17-03-2008, 11:47
For that cage, did you heat the plastic rod before bending it? If so, what did you use to heat it with?

I warmed it up a little by rubbing it between my fingers, I find that's usually enough to prevent them from snapping.


what are you counting the worker rabble as?

Workers Rabble?

sainthale1988
17-03-2008, 11:58
hi getz, nice to see progress. i love the psker on the left (GET OUT OF MY HEAD! lol) and i am very impressed with the salamander: an most effective conversion. did you put all the 'rivets' on by hand? do you still have the templates/ measurements for them, as i'd like to knock a few up, as yours look more imposing than the forge world one.

KEEP GOING!

Getz
17-03-2008, 12:14
All done by eye I'm afraid...

On the bright side, it's a very simple conversion.

Lord Cook
17-03-2008, 17:22
what are you counting the worker rabble as?

Worker rabble is an actual unit choice from the IA5 Renegades and Heretics army. Similar to conscripts, but better.

MrP
17-03-2008, 18:05
Absolutely gorgeous Sally, old man! :)

FurryMiguell
20-03-2008, 15:56
yeah, still great, but the gas-masked heads my friend, the heads! where did you get them?:p

Cheers:D

Getz
21-03-2008, 18:12
yeah, still great, but the gas-masked heads my friend, the heads! where did you get them?:p

Cheers:D

Here...

http://www.pig-iron-productions.com

razormasticator
21-03-2008, 18:23
They are looking great Getz. Nice job man, really nice. They look a tad bit like Bloodpact.

Getz
21-03-2008, 18:24
Well... They used to be Bloodpact, but I decided to redo them...

BishopBlack
28-03-2008, 15:47
Good stuff going on!
You are a very organised painter, to paint all the same part throughout the army
before you move onto the next stage.

razormasticator
28-03-2008, 16:43
Well... They used to be Bloodpact, but I decided to redo them...

Bloodpact is cool with me.

But what you have going on looks great either way.

Getz
31-03-2008, 00:28
Good stuff going on!
You are a very organised painter, to paint all the same part throughout the army
before you move onto the next stage.

That's kind of you to say but it's not really true.

Truth be told, I'm a highly disorganised painter, only tending to paint in fits and starts when the spirit moves me - however, what does tend to happen is that I decide to to this squad or that tank or suchandsuc character, and then finish them before my latest bout of activity ends...

Logarithm Udgaur
02-04-2008, 18:30
Nicely done Traitors. My only real comment is to maybe lighten up on the black wash, as the finished product looks a little on the dark side. It could just be the photos though. Really love the look of the Traitor armor, and will be referencing this thread to get it right if I ever get around to painting my own army. The camo scheme on the troopers is tops also, which is why I think you should lighten up on the wash, because it flattens the whole effect IMO.

Gunner
03-04-2008, 08:32
Amazing stuff!
I really like your paint scheme, they look very industrial! :chrome:

Crucium Giger
20-04-2008, 10:37
Love the look of the army, going to pinch a few ideas from these guys if you don't mind (Pig Iron heads look very nice.)

On a slight side note does anyone know where to get (besides FW) accessories to convert IG into renegades, things like weapons etc?

Logarithm Udgaur
20-04-2008, 22:29
The Orlock Hand weapon sprue from the Necromunda range has a lot of autoweapons on it. I am not certain if it is still available though.
Just checked and it looks like the whole gang has to be purchased to get that sprue. Not necessarily a bad thing if you are looking to bring variety to your army.

Crucium Giger
21-04-2008, 12:12
The Orlocks look good and with a head swap should fit right in, cheers:)

Lister of Smee
21-04-2008, 12:29
would it be at all possible for you to post a tutorial on how you paint one of your troopers?

Great idea for the Pig Iron heads

Getz
21-04-2008, 13:15
would it be at all possible for you to post a tutorial on how you paint one of your troopers?

Great idea for the Pig Iron heads

Not a chance in hell, I'm afraid.

Sorry, it's just that my painting is just not organised enough to do a tutorial - and besides, by now most of the army is in various stages of completion. I'm pretty sure there aren't any that are still only in basecoat to show you.

Malachai
03-06-2008, 23:36
Just discovered this Log. Your renegade militia is great, i really want to see more!
I'm working on something similar and it is so much fun.
I also use some pig iron heads(form a friend of mine), but because i live in the netherlands, not having a credit card, i can't order much needed extra's which really sucks.
I like your dark camo-scheme. It represents them being tough guardsmen, experienced in war, betraying the rotting corpse of the emperor.

Lord Cook
27-06-2008, 12:26
Coming along very nicely. Don't envy you painting the rabble though...

Totenkopf
24-09-2008, 14:21
Just out of interest, the arms on the enforcers... Are those just unconverted SM arms?

Gdolkin
25-09-2008, 02:52
Brilliant matey. Where did you get the backpacks on the earlier minis? That Pig Iron Gasmask is ideal.

Getz
29-09-2008, 13:22
Just out of interest, the arms on the enforcers... Are those just unconverted SM arms?

CSM arms to be precise - but in principle, yes


Brilliant matey. Where did you get the backpacks on the earlier minis? That Pig Iron Gasmask is ideal.

Which ones in particular? Most of the backpacks come from the Necromunda range, but there are many exceptions...

Sorry folks, I've actully got a whole bunch of updates I'd like to add to the log, but I'm having problems with my home internet so I can upload the pictures...

Gdolkin
01-10-2008, 03:23
The plastic backpacks on pg3, with spades and flasks and stuff?

Getz
01-10-2008, 12:42
Those come in the plastic Cadian Heavy weapons kit. You get two different backpacks for every two troopers.

Gdolkin
01-10-2008, 13:56
Aha, thanks bud :) Get painting those rabble..

Raellos
23-01-2009, 17:37
I got onto this log from your very helpful post in the Guard thread. My my what lovely renegades! Certainly inspirational work. I was really straining to think of what I could use for Worker's Rabble.

elotsip
24-01-2009, 06:12
Nice renegades. You do chaos proud.