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Beragond
16-01-2008, 11:53
I have been thinking about starting a 500 point wood elf army and I am not sure what to include in it. I have thought about the one in LOME. What do you think about it. I will be greatful for any suggestions :)

Pitalla Crimson
16-01-2008, 21:07
well personally I woud go with full of haldir elves, they good good defence.
Also if you want a kick ass hero go for celeborn and galadriel for a kick ass magician.

I have not many experience with wood elves so I cant really say:(

Beragond
18-01-2008, 21:20
Yeah Galadriel is included in the one in LOME, this is it

8 Wood elves with wood elf spears
8 Wood elves with elven blades
5 Haldirs elves with elven bows
Wood Elf Captain with elven bow
Haldir with armour and elven bow
Galadriel with Mirror of Galadriel

Rodman49
19-01-2008, 00:10
Wow, you need more elves than in that list.

I'd say:

8 Wood Elves w/ Throwing Daggers and Elven Blades
8 Wood Elves w/ Spears
8 Wood Elves w/ Bows
9 Wood Elves w/ Armor and Elven Blades
1 Wood Elf w/ Armor and Banner
1 Wood Elf Captain w/ Armor and Elven Blade
Haldir w/ Armor and Bow

Which is 36 models including 1 Banner and 2 Heroes.

nieto666
19-01-2008, 05:15
Wow, you need more elves than in that list.

I'd say:

8 Wood Elves w/ Throwing Daggers and Elven Blades
8 Wood Elves w/ Spears
8 Wood Elves w/ Bows
9 Wood Elves w/ Armor and Elven Blades
1 Wood Elf w/ Armor and Banner
1 Wood Elf Captain w/ Armor and Elven Blade
Haldir w/ Armor and Bow

Which is 36 models including 1 Banner and 2 Heroes.

that sounds like a good list right there!!

Cirrus the Blue
19-01-2008, 08:24
Some might say Terror in a 500 point WE list is cheezy, but it's very possible and hilarious when it happens! :p

- Cirrus

Kroot Lord
19-01-2008, 08:36
I'm "against" taking two handed weapons for Elves because you will never use them. Elves are about being outnumbered, and 2h weapons are there so if you are fightin 2 (Elves) against 1 (enemy) one can use the 2H weapon, but with being outnumbered quite often and defence 3/4 you don't have the chance to do that at all (or very, veyr little).

My only suggestions to the list are drop elven blades which saves you 22 points and the banner, another 30 points, and get some extra Elves with bows in there (armored ones with bows, you can fit 3 in with the points) so you even have enough to volley.

Beragond
19-01-2008, 08:38
Wow, you need more elves than in that list.

I'd say:

8 Wood Elves w/ Throwing Daggers and Elven Blades
8 Wood Elves w/ Spears
8 Wood Elves w/ Bows
9 Wood Elves w/ Armor and Elven Blades
1 Wood Elf w/ Armor and Banner
1 Wood Elf Captain w/ Armor and Elven Blade
Haldir w/ Armor and Bow

Which is 36 models including 1 Banner and 2 Heroes.

That sounds good but there is one thing you are leaving out, Gladariel. She is one of the most important things you need with wood elves as they are only defence , she can cast blinding light, she causes terror, she can immobolize, shes just ausome :)

Rodman49
19-01-2008, 14:38
I'm "against" taking two handed weapons for Elves because you will never use them. Elves are about being outnumbered, and 2h weapons are there so if you are fightin 2 (Elves) against 1 (enemy) one can use the 2H weapon, but with being outnumbered quite often and defence 3/4 you don't have the chance to do that at all (or very, veyr little).

That's why you take the banner. The banner basically gives the Elves 2 Attacks for the fight roll, so on any 1v1 circumstances when you have the banner you use the two-handed weapon.

Kroot Lord
19-01-2008, 15:23
True, but if the enemy has spears it will almost always have 2 attacks against one, and there is still the chance that the enemy rolls a 6 and wins automaticly.

Haldir's ELves could be ok with D4 as the opponent would need 5's (most of the time), but against Strength 3 it would be 4's against Wood Elves and I wouldn't feel safe at all to use a 2H weapon, if you get what I mean.

Beragond
22-01-2008, 11:55
Do you have any suggestions for a 250 point wood elf army?

Rodman49
22-01-2008, 18:19
Do you have any suggestions for a 250 point wood elf army?

250 point armies . . . note that at this value you are going to see armies like Moria and Barad-dur completely annihilate most competition. I would say look at taking something like 20 Wood Elves and two Sentinels.

Beragond
23-01-2008, 11:30
What do you think about this?

6 wood elves with spear
6 wood elves with bow
6 wood elves with elven blade
Captain
Banner

Rodman49
23-01-2008, 17:28
What do you think about this?

6 wood elves with spear
6 wood elves with bow
6 wood elves with elven blade
Captain
Banner

A pretty standard list - its not bad. A Banner is pretty critical for the elves especially considering your low numbers.

However you could just take more elves and go with:
8 Wood Elves w/ Elven Blades and Throwing Daggers
8 Wood Elves w/ Spears
6 Wood Elves w/ Elven Bows
2 Wood Elf Sentinels

Which gives you 4 more elves and the Sentinels can attempt to counter enemy heroes. All in all though, I'm really a fan of banners, too bad you can't take two at this points level (it would be prohibitively expensive).

Hoggle_Moggle
25-01-2008, 16:09
for 500 points, against your casual evil opponent I would use Legolas and Haldir, Galadriel won't do much anyways, and reserving her only for spells is a waste of her points IMO, CBL is okay, but other then a dragon and crossbows what could you possibly fear in shooting? -

Crossbows tend to come in 8-10 packs, and even so you'll have better shooting so you can count on doing better then him either way, and you'll never find a yourself facing a dragon in competitive play -

I would build like this -

Haldir + Elf Bow + Armour + Elven Cloak = 90
Legolas + Armour + Elven Cloak = 105
20 Wood Elves + Wood Elf Spears + Throwing Daggers = 200
10 Wood Elves + Wood Elf Spears + Elf Bows = 100

Might - 6
Models - 32
Shots - 15 - 20 Throwing Daggers


the elven cloaks are only there cause I had the spare points to add them, but basically your whole force if needed can shield, can support each other, and with 20 Throwing Daggers you can basically tear apart any calvary threats!

Rodman49
25-01-2008, 17:03
I would build like this -

Haldir + Elf Bow + Armour + Elven Cloak = 90
Legolas + Armour + Elven Cloak = 105
20 Wood Elves + Wood Elf Spears + Throwing Daggers = 200
10 Wood Elves + Wood Elf Spears + Elf Bows = 100

Might - 6
Models - 32
Shots - 15 - 20 Throwing Daggers

That's a really good list, if a lot of conversion work.

Beragond
29-01-2008, 12:43
This Sunday I just did a battle with the army list I suggested and it went well. I only lost 3 models in the game and I will be using the army again

nieto666
29-01-2008, 16:08
what army were u playin against??

Beragond
30-01-2008, 09:32
It was a 3 on 3 and I was playing against 750 points of Gondor, Uruk-Hai and High Elves

nieto666
30-01-2008, 16:23
sounds like it was a interesting battle

Rodman49
30-01-2008, 23:48
It was a 3 on 3 and I was playing against 750 points of Gondor, Uruk-Hai and High Elves

Want to give us a quick overview/summary/report?

Kroot Lord
31-01-2008, 06:42
Yeah, show those High Elves what the tree lovers are made of!

Well done :)