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pnweerar
28-09-2005, 02:34
I'm sick of "GW must die" threads. Instead, I'm going to talk about how awesome space hulk and Mordheim are, and ask the community for their own favorites.

Space Hulk. It's awesome. I'm going to make it a part of my training program for my new painter hires (they've all got to wargame in some way shape or form to understand who their painting for).

Mordheim, I find it even more awesome. Getting my painters familiar with wargaming is one thing, but if I can get them to WANT to wargame, then I think Mordheim would be good for a company league. They don't have to paint many figs (cheaper, less time to convert up an army), they can work on them as the league progresses, and the rules are mostly elegant.

And I want an excuse to go back to work in my Skaven... :) .

Does anyone have any ideas for good, easy, GW games that I can use to supplement my staff's training / get them to try out wargaming? Nothing too fig intensive, 40K combat patrol is the upper end (I haven't played WH Fantasy Warbands, so any info if this would be viable or not, is appreciated).

Thanks,

Navin

grave digger
28-09-2005, 03:41
Space Hulk is excellent in for your purpose and fun ta boot.

For small figure games you could go:

Blood Bowl, just good clean fun. I know Soccer is played there so they should get the point.

Necromunda, similar to Mordhiem but sci-fi. One of may all time favorites.

Talisman. If each painter has to do up one character it would make the game a little more fun. Plus boardgames are easier to get a handle on.

Just my thoughts,

Diggs

violenceha
28-09-2005, 03:48
bloodbowl, everyone can get into bloodbowl, i bought it 3 times and kept giving it to people just getting into the hobby then i'd buy it again

big squig
28-09-2005, 04:12
LotR. Its cheap, easy to model and paint, and can be done with as few as 5 figs. Everyone saw the movies, most people read the books, and everyone can understand the rules.

Jedi152
28-09-2005, 07:48
I loved Warhammer Quest til our little group all fell out (over a girl :rolleyes: ). Most enjoyable game i've played in ages.

Nowadays i love BloodBowl. Don't get to play it much, but i love it.

ironduke
28-09-2005, 07:59
Bloodbowl, warhammer quest, space hulk, necromunda and that free game you got with white dwarf ages ago set in gorkamorka pub where you had to beat the other orks in a bar room brawl.

Keravin
28-09-2005, 08:27
Loved Space Hulk.

My favourite free game remains Sleigh Wars from a very old White Dwarf.

rkunisch
28-09-2005, 10:28
It is Space Hulk for me. It has about all GW is about - packaged in an easy-to-learn and fast rule-set. It brought me into the hobby and still could do it for the next generation, if it was still available. :(

Other old-time favourites are Talisman and Warhammer Quest (and to a degree Hero Quest).

Blood Bowl is an easy going game (true for the painting effort as well as the rules). Certainly the best suited game for your training purpose.

Have fun,

Rolf.

pnweerar
28-09-2005, 11:06
Thank you everyone for the excellent suggestions. I'm especially keen to take a look at Bloodbowl, since I found the rules online at a certain, um, Russian website (I'll leave it at that).

Anyone know where I might find the Talisman rules?

Off to google me a few answers myself...

Thanks again,

Navin

PS: I do have the newer reprint of the Necromunda rules, but I personally found the gameplay a little static (especially with the overwatch rule). Still, its there, and people are welcome to say, "hey what's this? It looks cool. Why aren't we playing it?"

rkunisch
28-09-2005, 11:15
Thank you everyone for the excellent suggestions. I'm especially keen to take a look at Bloodbowl, since I found the rules online at a certain, um, Russian website (I'll leave it at that).
Are you aware that Specialist Games (http://www.specialist-games.com) has online "Living Rule Books" for all their supported games? There you can get the BloodBowl rules (as well as Warmaster, Mordheim, Battlefleet Gothic, Necromunda, Epic: Armageddon and Inquisitor).


Anyone know where I might find the Talisman rules?
Nope, but it wouldn't help you much, because it is a board game and the rules are quite simple. The main problem is the board (and the cards).

Have fun,

Rolf.

Luke
28-09-2005, 11:21
well i have to say, Gorkamorka is my utter favourite sub-game, for reasons too numerous to mention (aka, im too lazy to write them because im eating a sandwhich atm)

and though ive never actually played a game of epic, i did buy the penuktimate edition of the rules and collected a, shall we say VAST IG army which i loved to bits and gave numerous paintjobs over the last 5 years

also, Bar Room Brawl was hella funny and summed up the whole ork ethos.: fighting and fighting :D


good stuff, they should bring gorkamorka back and stick more games like Bar room brawl in WD (make it actually worth the 4 quid i shell out for it like a nob)

ironduke
28-09-2005, 11:22
You don't need cards anymore stuff like that is only dealt with when it comes to handicaps and the underdogs gettin benefits. Good choice of game though cause its a really social have a laugh game, not really serious unless you do tournaments.

Grimshawl
28-09-2005, 12:55
I really love Necromunda, the growth system that lets a gang develope character in it is great. Epic is also one of my all time favorites although I dont think it would fit into what your trying to do very well, you can end up with a ton of figures, especially orks and IG, but the rules for epic are probablly the best GWs come up with. BFG has to be mentioned not only because I like it but because it takes relatively few figures to play but does offer paint and modelling/ converting posibillities.

Inquisitor Maul
28-09-2005, 14:18
Battlefleet Gothic. Must be one of the most balanced systems GW has ever made (atleast in the rulesbook).

pnweerar
28-09-2005, 15:01
Balanced!!! Will definitely look at BFG. I didn't know Specialist Games had LRBs for anything more than BFG, Mordheim, Necromunda, and Inquisitor (shows how much I know). Thanks for the tips!

Where can I find Bar Room Brawl? This is the first I ever heard of it. Has anyone played Punt a Runt? Came out in a recent WD as they were promoting Ogre Kingdoms. As much I wanted to, I couldn't get anyone to play it with me... :(

On another note, I'm interviewing a candidate tomorrow. I wonder if I should but them throw a round or two of 40K :) ...

Navin

ironduke
28-09-2005, 15:04
Where do you work by the way cause it sounds kewl (sorry)

Jedi152
28-09-2005, 15:05
Balanced!!! Will definitely look at BFG. I didn't know Specialist Games had LRBs for anything more than BFG, Mordheim, Necromunda, and Inquisitor (shows how much I know). Thanks for the tips!

Where can I find Bar Room Brawl? This is the first I ever heard of it. Has anyone played Punt a Runt? Came out in a recent WD as they were promoting Ogre Kingdoms. As much I wanted to, I couldn't get anyone to play it with me... :(

On another note, I'm interviewing a candidate tomorrow. I wonder if I should but them throw a round or two of 40K :) ...

Navin

The only LRBs available are the ones you mentioned and Epic. All the other games you'd be looking at eBay.

The Ork bar room brawl game was free in a UKWD a few years ago, around when GW were promoting Gorkamorka. It basically consisted of a cardboard bar room, and rules for fighting each other.



I personally always wanted to try out 'Bommerz over Da Sulpha River' - A game mentioned again in UKWD 309, but incorrectly called 'Bommerz over Death Sulpha River'.

VanDoo
28-09-2005, 15:08
BFG! Excellent game, and cheap to boot! Plus, it's a total departure from the standard GW games, simply because it deals with ship combat.

ironduke
28-09-2005, 15:15
http://uk.games-workshop.com/whitedwarf/database/issue.aspx

Theres the link so you can see the issue man i loved that game cause you could pick up broken bottles and kick the opposing ork "in da goolies"


Hmmphh! it seems the link is being a bit uppity jus click on the white dwarf database and look for number 223

rkunisch
28-09-2005, 15:17
The only LRBs available are the ones you mentioned and Epic. All the other games you'd be looking at eBay.
The last time I looked there was also one for Warmaster (http://www.specialist-games.com/warmaster/rulebook.asp) and BloodBowl (http://www.specialist-games.com/bloodbowl/rulebook.asp).

Have fun,

Rolf.

Jedi152
28-09-2005, 15:19
Ok, so i'm a bit dense today! :D

I don't know why i forgot, i've got them all on my computer.

pnweerar
28-09-2005, 16:03
Where do you work by the way cause it sounds kewl (sorry)

Nothing to be sorry about :) . I moved back home to Asia (Sri Lanka to be precise) in July to start my own miniature painting service (my banner ad pops up a lot on this site). Business has been good (so far) and I'm hiring on two more full time painters and wondering how to best train them.

I've got a friend in the US who worked at GW who is putting together a painting training manual for me, but I want them to wargame a little to better understand the product and our customers.

I asked another SL painting service for a quote for some space marines, and they asked me to send them the Osprey guide with their paint scheme :rolleyes: Getting my staff to understand and care about wargaming is the difference between them saying something like that versus "SMs eh? Any particular chapter or do you have your own?"

Call it gamer pride :) .

EVIL INC
28-09-2005, 16:19
I have always been fond of Blood Bowl. Fun, fast not too heavy on the pocket.
Then again, Necromunda is somewhere between that and reguler 40k. It also adds a bit of roleplay to the mix.
Mordheim, havnt played it yet, but seems like a fantasy necromunda. Cant say as how I like the models and "gang" options. I would probobly prefer to convert models to suit.
Epic, I LOVED the older rules. Have not tried the new ones and no longer have the gobs of models for it I used to and am unwilling to invest.
Space Fleet, looks good, too poor to invest.
Always wanted to try Dark Future but after looking at it and longing to play for years, it was gone before I could afford to get into it.

Persephone
28-09-2005, 17:14
Man O war. Great models, a fun ruleset and so much you can do with the terrain.

Thoume
28-09-2005, 17:17
Does anyone have any ideas for good, easy, GW games that I can use to supplement my staff's training / get them to try out wargaming? Nothing too fig intensive...
Anyone remember Brewhouse Bash from WD 223? That used very few models, if not any! (if you were using the card 'figures' that is) and was a really simple one to play. I thought about making a 3D version of the brew house board that could also be used for scenery in normal 40k games.

Brother Othorio
28-09-2005, 19:12
i love them all!!! *sobs* (but for some reason i dont like playing the same game twice in a row, i'd rather alternate between games)

games that i REALLY want to play at the moment:
Might Empires combined with Man'o'war and either Warhammer* or Warmaster*
Advanced Space Crusade
Advanced Heroquest**
Space Marine 1st edition
Dungeonbowl**

*technically neither historical version is free or oop, but i could happily use either fantasy or historical.. or maybe even a mix ~gets image of imperial romans fighting beasts of chaos including a few chaos warmammoths~

** these two are really just waiting on me getting some Hirst Arts Molds

grave digger
28-09-2005, 23:07
Does anyone remember Squig Hopper Races?

I remember that it was at a Games Day years ago and that at some point they released the rules in a White Dwarf.

General gist. Squig Hoppers on the starting line. And their off!

Random roll for direction and distance. Fun effects depending on where they land.

Would be a great team building game. Weekly race, trophy, prestige of winning the Triple Crown. Oh yea!

Diggs

Sai-Lauren
29-09-2005, 13:34
My favourite free game remains Sleigh Wars from a very old White Dwarf.

Ahh, cybernetic reindeer, christmas pudding mines, the brandy flamer, the turkey cannon, and the greatest weapon ever...

The xmas-cette missile. ;)

I've got that WD somewhere, I think I'll have to make a personal photocopy of the rules and board and inflict it on some friends for christmas. :D

EVIL INC
29-09-2005, 14:05
Of course, Talisman was pretty good too.

boogle
29-09-2005, 16:25
in terms of 'free' game, nothing beats the Horus Heresy games that can free with WD 163? (there were counters for the Emperor, Imperial Fists, Horus and Daemons)

Opus T. Penguin
29-09-2005, 16:48
Man 'O War is the best of the bunch that's out of print. NetEpic is the best of the free ones (Not completely GW, but still the best).

However, I still have a thing for 2nd ed Talisman -- you'll just pay an arm and a leg to get it.

Orcdom
30-09-2005, 02:36
man o war, blood bowl, space hulk, and necromunda are my fav small games.
Steve

Jesse
30-09-2005, 05:43
BFG all the way... great and different minis, relatively low price to construct a fleet and quick, balanced game

Grimlaw
30-09-2005, 11:16
My favourite OOP game is Space Hulk.

I also got a book with some Genestealer Cult Rules so I can modify them to use in a Necromunda, sub-terranian campaign (my all time favourite GW game is Necromunda).

Hashut's Li'l Helper
01-10-2005, 01:49
if you're looking for rules near boston, I have almost all the gw games and live there.

P.S. I love man o war, but the rules and game are not supported.

pnweerar
01-10-2005, 08:06
Definitely looking for Man O War rules. I sent you a PM sir, I've got many minions in good old Beantown who would be happy to meet and try and get a copy for us.

Hey, there aren't GW games that could lend themselves to PBEM ([play by email), are there? It's all turn-based and all, right?

That way we could have the US AND the Sri Lankan staff play simultaneously :0 .

Thanks everyone, this thread has been good reading,

Navin

Orcdom
03-10-2005, 00:47
there is a group working on a man o war based video game right now on a list i belong to, when the game is ready i will post links.

Steve

pnweerar
03-10-2005, 06:43
Thanks Steve, I appreciate it.