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Yayale
13-07-2009, 14:02
I think they're just there to hold the building together and not for aesthetics.
Looking very good tho :D

Bane_sword
13-07-2009, 15:26
Really nice scratch building log here and the speed painted guards are awesome, how long does it take you to paint one miniature? All in all a really good log and i am looking forward to see that building done

Tommygun
14-07-2009, 12:20
No pictures yet, but I did paint it.
I started with white primer then 3 coats of GW rough coat and finally the terra cotta orange (it looks like rust color).
I was disappointed with the GW rough coating, it's too subtle.

Snuffy, what you are seeing are the original roof supports and a few pieces of plastic I added as stiffeners to the walls.
There is no real floor plan, though it would be a two story structure with what I would imagine is a small upper office on the second floor.

As far as the time it took to paint the five soldiers, I'm not sure.
This was a test batch and I played around with a few things.
It's a very simple color scheme. Just two colors, one of witch is sprayed on and a wash.
After that, just some silver and black on the uniform and weapons.
The most time consuming part is all those faces and eyes.
I think painting human like faces is the hardest to paint.
Because we are very familiar with what a human face should look like, any mistake are easier to spot.

Small teaser.

Well it is 5:30 in the morning. I should go to bed.:ozzzzzzzzzz.......

Tommygun
16-07-2009, 05:21
Viva the cheese!
The GW cheese factory is now completed.
A few quick notes on the building;
Those are supposed to be neon signs in the windows. I hope they look right.
The rough black line on the roof are tar seals for the roof membrane.

I have 6 to 9 more builds to go over the next year or so.
Next maybe the hospital or a KFC restaurant.
So what do you think of the store and the colors used?

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Kriegfreak
16-07-2009, 07:06
Personally, I love everything about it.

Faolan
16-07-2009, 07:49
It looks good, but it could use a bit more to break it up a little.

I'm not sure if there's any base texture on it, if not maybe use a filter to fake some texture on to vary the colours a bit?

Otherwise, it looks good.

bugbait_nz
16-07-2009, 08:18
I like the colour and the windows look good, the neon sign in the window is a great touch! I think it would benefit from a slight weathering a bit like your bank but VERY subtle.
This is all looking good together!

If any Infinity players see this they will start drooling!!

Bugbait out

Warlord Nazgred
16-07-2009, 08:41
wow i love it

Solun Decius
16-07-2009, 10:57
The windows and the Neon signs in them are really nice. The tar paper on the roof and the sealing all look just right. Perfect.
Is the sign above the door meant to be a scrolling sign? I feel the GW is too close to the left edge, like there's a part of the sign missing. Unless it's a scrolling sign and it's about to leave at the left side.
The whole look and feel of the french cheese shop is excellent! The whole town is of course very cool too.

Ethan Hunt
16-07-2009, 20:19
Veerry nice and very art-decō.
The only thing i would add to "imperiumize" it, would be the typical imperial propaganda posters and announcements, one or two on a corner or a wall.
But that's my personal opinion, it's very good as is. :)
Keep up the great work. :D

Tommygun
17-07-2009, 00:12
I will see what I can do for weathering and high lighting.
The problem with that though is despite three coats of GW rough coat, the surface is pretty smooth.
I find it hard to add washes and high light to smooth surfaces.

The sign above the door is meant to be neon as well. I see what you mean now.
Too late though, but I can live with that.

I may have some Art Nuevo advertising signs I can put on the sides of the building.
Maybe something like this?

Faolan
17-07-2009, 05:47
Check this out, TG..

http://ultrawerke.blogspot.com/2007/03/painting-and-weathering-tutorial-part-i.html

The turret he made for that was rather smooth at the start, so it's worth looking into.

Note that GW Rough Coat is only really rough at a microscopic level, it's basically just clear flat, as opposed to clear gloss which is smooth on a microscopic level.

Kriegfreak
18-07-2009, 09:07
Maybe you could always base the buildings, and add a tree here or there to cover up a bit you might not want? Some kind of art-deco type potted plant you'd find along a sidewalk. I like the idea of adding the art to the side at any rate.

bugbait_nz
21-07-2009, 09:36
I think those signs will fit in OK, how about showing us a test sample on a wall at different sizes?

Bugbait out

Tommygun
25-07-2009, 09:21
So here is where I'm at.
I weathered and high lighted the building, but it came out badly.
Fortunately it does show that much in the photos.
As you can see there are signs and propaganda now. The back has the most and this will be a "Wine & Cheese" tasting area on an out side patio.
Just a few chairs and umbrella tables. There will also be potted plants and plant boxes through out the city.
They will not be part of the buildings, but separate scenery elements.
Next up more troops and ether a medical clinic or the KFC restaurant.
That's it for now, more slightly out of focus pictures tomorrow.


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Dannage
25-07-2009, 12:45
They make intact buildings in the 41st millenium too?... Wow...

Great stuff. :)

Dragon Lord
25-07-2009, 13:46
I love the 40k cheese shop and the Imperial posters. My only suggestion would be to change the 'Kentucky' in KFC to something more 40k. Looking forward to the medical clinic or restaurant.

Warlord Nazgred
25-07-2009, 17:19
Mabye something like CFD ( catchan fried devil) but just ideas

Faolan
26-07-2009, 03:25
Kommissariate Fried Ceaguin

Tommygun
26-07-2009, 09:44
So here is the first batch. Only 105 more to go!
I love the Guard....I hate the Guard....I love the Guard....I hate the Guard....

I would also like to take a moment and blame global warming for the cause of my fuzzy pictures.
I believe it is actually a heat simmer that causes this effect.
My next project will be turning a wrecked camera into a Tau terrain piece.

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Pekel
26-07-2009, 12:09
I love the flamer guy walking past the damage he's done! I may have to try that with my Catachan, it's a great idea.

Tommygun
27-07-2009, 02:04
Mini up date.
35 of 120 done.
Just a group shot with better pictures.

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Tommygun
27-07-2009, 08:00
I had a request on how I make my M16/M4 style guns.
Basically cut where the red lines are and remember to save the wedge piece for later.
You will be gluing the wedge piece back on backwards, then gluing on the handle on top of that.
If you want the flat top M4, then just cut off everything on top and add some pre-scribe plasticard pieces to get the rail mount look.
From there use your imagination to add scopes, lights etc...
I hope that will help.

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bugbait_nz
27-07-2009, 09:24
Swiss army gun FTW!!

So many lights, what are they trying to say? Shoot me??

OutOfContext
27-07-2009, 10:24
That is my favourite gun as of now :p

I've been waiting for you to finish the building for a while now, and I must say, you've done a spectacular job on it, Tommy. The windows especially, are a stroke of genius.

lack0fbettername
27-07-2009, 13:15
Legos = Melta Guns?

Tommygun
27-07-2009, 13:32
Legos = Melta Guns?

I used a modified space marine bolter, plastic rods and piano wire to make the meltas.
Sounds like an episode of MacGyver?

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/1Col.jpg

lack0fbettername
27-07-2009, 14:46
I didn't see the holes drilled in the side before. At first glance it looke like you used one of these. Its about the exact same size.

http://img01.static-nextag.com/image/Lego-Building-Accessories-1X1/0/000/006/166/678/616667825.jpg

only joking...
27-07-2009, 16:45
Superb work Tommygun, loving the U.S feel to these guard it is the complete opposite to what I am doing at the moment :p

duckface
27-07-2009, 21:31
im loving the building and i like the idea of kfc wiv a commissar keep up the good work

duckface

Vimes
27-07-2009, 22:10
So here is the first batch. Only 105 more to go!
I love the Guard....I hate the Guard....I love the Guard....I hate the Guard...
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Figures/Landersep1.jpg


...and you love the guard!:D And your conversions rock.

I studied architecture and must admit that we never had amongst us a gifted modelbuilder like you! Congrats!
Is it possible to get some pics of the building on the far right? From what i can see it looks very promissing.
....aehmmm, any florplans, templates are always welcomed.

P.S.: You could call it CFD (Catachan Fried Devil) The Colonel/Comissar looks the part.

Tommygun
27-07-2009, 23:32
Is it possible to get some pics of the building on the far right? From what i can see it looks very promissing.
....aehmmm, any florplans, templates are always welcomed.


Sorry I don't have any templates.
I don't have Lackofbetterame's talent with 3D software programs to make them.
If you look back to page 18 on my log it shows the building process for that building.
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=18
It used to be a Greyhound Buss Station. Sadly, I don't think it exists any longer, as the only picture I can find of it are old ones.

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only joking...
27-07-2009, 23:35
Are you going to weather it a bit more Tommygun?

Tommygun
27-07-2009, 23:43
I decided that the buildings in this city will have very little to no weathering.
They will all be colorful with no battle damage.
Something like a Walt Disney World of the Future where war has arrived for the first time.

only joking...
27-07-2009, 23:47
Woah okay that is going to be awsome. How many buildings are you planning on doing?

Tommygun
28-07-2009, 00:12
9 to 12 buildings. Maybe a park in the middle of town.
This will be done over the next 18 months or so in between other projects.

sigur
28-07-2009, 00:31
Legos = Melta Guns?

Exactly what I was about to ask. ;)

Great stuff as always, Tommygun. Nice tutorial on the lasgun and the RL gun model looks just wicked. I love the window glass on the building, great use of that textured foil. Also fits very well with the art nouveau posters.

There's also very amusing bits like the GW cheese factory and the KFC poster.




Good work, mate!

Ghaust Mortium
31-07-2009, 18:40
So, do you make all this stuff with platicard? If so, is it all hollow? Do you use templates?

Sorry bout all the questions. I think your stuff is the work of a master craftsman...purely genius.

Tommygun
01-08-2009, 09:07
I think everything in this log is made out of plasticard.
I may have used some other materials here and there, but primarily it's basically made out of plasticard and is hollow.
I do use templates for some stuff. The Thunderbolt and Warhound were made from Lackofbettername's templates.
I did get the idea for the Aquila conversion from Eater of Small Things and I can't remember who I obtained the Valkyrie templates from.
The rest comes from watching other people's logs or the dark recesses of my mind.
Maybe you can find something you like here and give it a try.

only joking...
01-08-2009, 09:31
Tommygun is basically the da vinci of the plasticard world :D

bugbait_nz
01-08-2009, 10:59
If you have access to a flatbed scanner you could do templates the barbarian way like me, trace around them onto paper and scan them.
Not pretty but it works!

Can I put my vote in for a SUBWAY shop?

Bugbait out

Slaaaaaanesh
01-08-2009, 11:27
Seconded.

The only surviving franchise in the 41st Millenium: Subway!
like Taco Bell was the only surviving restaurant in the film Demolition man!

Tommygun
01-08-2009, 11:52
Seconded.

The only surviving franchise in the 41st Millenium: Subway!
like Taco Bell was the only surviving restaurant in the film Demolition man!

Demolition man was a 2 hour infomercial for Taco Bell.
Stallone was/is the worse abuser of product placement Hollywood has ever seen!

I will keep it in mind, but if I use too many fast food places in the city, it will start to look like an American suburb.
Though I may be forced by the laws of averages to place a Starbucks and a Barnes & Noble Bookstore in the city.
Maybe two of each.

Slaaaaaanesh
01-08-2009, 12:32
LoL the Starbucks is probably a better idea. Have caffine'd up gretchin running around the place. OrkyBucks!

Faolan
01-08-2009, 13:11
Screw Barnes & Noble. Put in a Powells ;)

Then you just have to build 1 large building, the size of a city block, and 3 or 4 stories.

Ghaust Mortium
01-08-2009, 14:15
Hmmmm, Maybe I'll make a warhound...or a thunderbolt...Maybe I'll start of small and make a tank or somthing...I don't know. I'll figure it out.

"Also, what is the red stuff that you have sometimes smeared on some parts of the platicard? It looks like clay to me.

Tommygun
01-08-2009, 18:14
The red stuff is car Bondo. It helps to fill in the gaps.
I go for speed over accuracy in my building.
I just figure once it painted you won't see the problem areas.

Ghaust Mortium
01-08-2009, 19:03
I see. that was my second choice.

Dragon Lord
01-08-2009, 23:18
A Starbucks would be good, though what would perhaps be even better would be a model/hobby store, maybe Tommygun's Hobby Supplies? I love the marine conga-line going into the blue shop too (I know it is probably just a queue but it is far more funny to think of it as a conga-line:D).

Yayale
04-08-2009, 14:26
Looking great as always.
Maybe GW has changed rough coat since I first bought it a little while after it came out as personally I found it too rouch for buildings and didn't really like it.

Tommygun
09-08-2009, 07:42
Inglourious Basterds
Our business is killing xenos.....and business is a Boom-en.

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You Two....a big smile for Mom.
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Tommygun
09-08-2009, 07:42
One more.
CMP= California Men Prison

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I was playing around with a photo shop program.

Kriegfreak
09-08-2009, 07:46
lol, i love em dude

OP master N
09-08-2009, 09:06
:) !!!
Sure is standing out from the norm!

Azmo

SDKFZ
09-08-2009, 10:13
Great, Tommygun !!

Im still trying not to laugh anymore, its hard ...........hi, hi, hi ......:D

/ SDKFZ

Tommygun
09-08-2009, 23:03
I have a few possible building ideas for future designs.
I'm thinking of a promethean fuel station. The one I want to build is not Art Deco, but it has a 1950s feel.
Their is also an observatory which could double as a dice roller and this movie theater that is in my town I live at.
It looks more impressive at night with all the custom neon lights on.

SSG Snuffy
10-08-2009, 00:31
The fuel station doesn't really fit, in my opinion. The theater is quite nice, and consistent with the other buildings you've already built. I really like the observatory - my vote goes there.

Faolan
10-08-2009, 04:08
I'm a huge fan of the observatory, myself. Making a model off another model is great, some days!

Kriegfreak
10-08-2009, 22:52
Makes me think of BioShock with all the art deco stuff

SSG Snuffy
11-08-2009, 01:39
Now this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Drop_Inn)is an art deco filling station...

Tommygun
19-08-2009, 23:56
For The Emperor!
...0r not, ether way.


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These are just the base colors, so it looks a bit cartoony right now.
I have had this guy along with Horus and Sanguinius for years.
Just felt like painting something small, so I pulled him out.


Snuffy, that gas station is a bit too elaborate for this layout.
I'll probable use the basic shape of the gas station I showed, but incorporate Art-Deco elements into it.

SSG Snuffy
20-08-2009, 00:44
No harm, no foul... just trying to help. I'm looking forward to seeing whatever you come up with, as well as seeing some more detailing on His Holiness. ;)

Tommygun
20-08-2009, 23:20
The Emperor's new clothes.
Over all I'm happy with him.
I had a lot of trouble with the face. It's not sculpted very well and lacks detail.
I used four shades of skins tone and a wash on it, but you can't tell.
The sword was disappointing too, but I can live with it.
I am happy with the cape and the flooring area, just wish the camera would show more detail.
The armor was a dark bronze with a brown wash, then high lighted with two shades of gold and a little silver trim.
Do you guys thinks the armor is too dark?

Eventually I pain on converting some silent sisters for him.
Maybe a combination of SOB and Dark Eldar bits from 40k and fantasy, plus a few others.
Well anyways, here you go.


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Nexus Trimean
20-08-2009, 23:23
Awesome, (The White trim reminds me of santa.)

only joking...
20-08-2009, 23:25
Damn tommygun those penal legion dudes are superb, would you mind if I stole the idea?

Tommygun
20-08-2009, 23:31
Go for it.
The color scheme is courtesy of the California Prison System.

only joking...
20-08-2009, 23:40
Go for it.
The color scheme is courtesy of the California Prison System.

:D

Thanks very much California via Tommygun...

bugbait_nz
25-08-2009, 22:12
Some possible inspiration for you.

TerraGenesis terrain by IvanTT (http://www.terragenesis.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5483)

Bugbait out

Yayale
27-08-2009, 13:54
Nice paint job, I'm guessing it's just the camera that makes the gold look matt.

MrP
27-08-2009, 14:02
Hm, reminds me of the House of Lords. Nice work!

Tommygun
28-08-2009, 00:39
-Bugbait, I like the gas station a lot.
I may go with that one. I had also planned on a restaurant like that too.
I was think about converting an O scale train dinner car, but that looks like a good alternative.
I'll keep it as an option. I put the pictures on the hard drive.

-The armor on the Emperor does have a flat coat.
I was a little worried about using a flat sealer on metallic armor.
Maybe I'll go back and hand paint a gloss over the armor areas?

-School started last week, so not a lot done, except a few chain axes I'm making for Faolan.

Faolan
28-08-2009, 05:41
Ahh, school started, that explains so much!

Post up the axes when you're done with 'em, they're definitely good enough to show off.

Tommygun
04-09-2009, 07:28
Faolan I'm afraid these are the best pictures I could take.
My camera is just not able to photograph white plastic.
It can't handle the white balance, so some of the detail is lost.


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Faolan
04-09-2009, 10:31
Hey, those look pretty good to me :-)

Solun Decius
04-09-2009, 13:20
Very nifty Chain axes (and chain halberds?) there!
Do you mean to cast them (or you Foalan)? i'm just wondering if it might be tricky to cut the wound handles on the originals to fit hands in.

Yayale
04-09-2009, 13:20
V nice! Sometimes fiddling with the contrast can help bring up details.

Faolan
04-09-2009, 15:47
Yes Solun, they'll get cast in white metal. Which, of course, means no difficulty in getting them (the casts) into hands, just a quick whack with the snips and a file, or the razor saw, and it's all good.

I'm really looking forward to these, as they've been one of the major hold-ups for my SM chapter.

SSG Snuffy
10-09-2009, 17:04
Ha! :D Lochaber chain-axes... that's good stuff!

Faolan
10-09-2009, 17:37
I'll be damned, someone picked up on it :)

I can't wait to get my grubby little hands on these bad lil mofos.

T_55
11-09-2009, 01:54
Those axes are really cool!

SSG Snuffy
14-09-2009, 00:10
I'll be damned, someone picked up on it :)

I can't wait to get my grubby little hands on these bad lil mofos.

Man-powered weaponry is something of a hobby. I held a fascination with all things Scottish for a long time, so it was easy enough...

Shadowphrakt
14-09-2009, 08:26
Damn Tommygun, those are great. I really wish once Faolan has cast them he'd sell a few ;)

SSG Snuffy
15-09-2009, 22:29
Tommygun, I know you love Art Deco-styled buildings and whatnot, so I thought I'd share this... there's a fellow by the name of Neal Crankshaw that I found over on the TerraGenesis website. He's made some great Art Deco buildings (for wargaming terrain) that are right up your alley.

You can find some photos of his work here (http://www.terragenesis.co.uk/gallery/gallery.php?album=0&uploadedby=64&keyword=&bookmarkedby=0&sort=0&start=12).

Tommygun
15-09-2009, 23:21
Snuffy, I had seen those a while back.
In fact, that is in part where I had gotten the idea from.
I had also seen an infinity board that got me thinking about an undamaged city.
Right now I'm working on a small project. I'm making some paper scenery props from Ebbles.
Just a few things to put around a city or warehouse.

Tommygun
18-09-2009, 23:20
Box Office Success

It's not plasticard, but I have been wanting to do these for a long time.
I'll use them as props to add some details and flavor to my set ups.
Most of this stuff is from Ebbles.

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Tommygun
18-09-2009, 23:20
More Stuff to look at.
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1482ca.jpg
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SSG Snuffy
19-09-2009, 00:49
I love the shrink-wrapped pallets of boxes... that's great!

bugbait_nz
19-09-2009, 08:00
Great terrain for a kill team game!

Bugbait out

Faolan
19-09-2009, 08:19
Looks like you have the makings for a scene from HEAT there, TG.

Solun Decius
19-09-2009, 12:42
Heh, that's great warehouse stuff. Can really spice up an indoors style mission.
Love the wrapped cardboard boxes ;)

nooker
21-09-2009, 15:40
Where did all the props come from? They're awesome! I use World Works Games stuff, but being a Necromunda player, I'm always looking for more little thing to scatter across the gaming table.

cthorpe
21-09-2009, 17:18
Hi there..

I think that most of Tommyguns stuff came from here

http://www.ebblesminiatures.com/shop/index.php

Some lovely models Tommygun.. looking forward to see what you next turn your hand to..

Best wishes,

Carl

Faolan
21-09-2009, 17:55
I keep trying to convince him to make some Battlemechs, could you lads give me a hand?

Tommygun
21-09-2009, 19:46
Ebbles has some great stuff and the store room props are just a $2 down load.

Faolan, my Warhound is a battle mech, just not a BattleMech.

Faolan
22-09-2009, 04:22
I'd still put my money on a mixed Timberwolf/Mad Dog lance over the Warhound.

The Ebbles stuff looks interesting, but I've never really been sold on paper scenery, etc.

synapse
22-09-2009, 09:37
i love the shrinkwrapped craqtes... adn those chain axes are superb :D great work on those... as a world eater player you know how much i love my chainaxes :D

Pelenor
24-09-2009, 07:19
Just spent a few hours readin through the whole thread, Amazing what you can do with plasticard.

I Especially love the Orc Bomma'

if your were not already starting on a shop i would beg you for comissions.

Keep it up!

-Pelenor

Tommygun
02-10-2009, 01:44
OK, I promise, this will be the last of the boxes.
I think I'll call this my Cubism Period.



http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1495ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1492ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1493ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1496ca.jpg

Tommygun
02-10-2009, 01:46
Metal Container

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1506c.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1509c.jpg

Tommygun
02-10-2009, 01:51
Here are some boxes I photoshopped myself.
I included the sheet below if anyone would like to make their own.
On the sheet are boxes from Amazon.com, UPS, Priority Express Mail, Dell Computers and a medical bio hazard box.
They work best printed on 110 Lb (200 gsm) thick paper.



http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1501ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1504cc.jpg

Boxes Below:

Tommygun
02-10-2009, 01:57
Back to plastic.
This little guy is a loader for the boxes.
It's from an Ebbles design.
It was made by using Ebbles paper loader as a template over plasticard sheet.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1499cc.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1498cc.jpg

Original Ebbles loader below:

Eater of Small Things
02-10-2009, 02:29
Tom, you are my hero.

It's actually really refreshing to see scenery like this.

bugbait_nz
02-10-2009, 07:11
Nice, thought about any wooden pallets? (http://img1.tradeget.com/sujathawood/ETBCDIM01woodenpallets.jpg) might not fit in with your loader.

Like the loader, waiting to see pics of it painted (dirty yellow?) how tall is it?

Only one crush box? intergallactic couriers must be better than the ones around here!

Bugbait out

Kriegfreak
02-10-2009, 08:36
I love the loader robot and the UPS boxes. Stuff is pretty rad man.

Tommygun
02-10-2009, 09:21
The loader is about 40mm or 1-7/8 inch tall.
He's about as tall as a terminator and a bit wider, but a lot bulkier.
He will be a dirty yellow when done.
I have done mini real wooden pallets before at 1/35 scale, but didn't feel like making them this time.
Maybe I can make some high tech steel ones latter on?
There are actually two crushed boxes in the pictures, but no one has spotted it or why it's "different".:)
There are a few of my mini books in there too.
I also have an odd fetish like thing about making miniature books with individual pages.
I have no idea why I'm compelled to make these books, I even made a huge hollowed out book from scratch that looks like some monk's secret Codex.

Solun Decius
02-10-2009, 10:13
Shrink wrapped boxes in the container ... crushed UPS box ... and the books lying around on the transcargo box. There's actually loads of character in those simple things.
Brilliant stuff dude!

MrP
02-10-2009, 11:55
Lovely work, old boy! I have a hankering to see a Chaos raid on an Imperial Post Office at Christmastime. :D

can't_decide
02-10-2009, 15:33
Those did turn out great!

SSG Snuffy
03-10-2009, 15:50
What sort of paper do you use for your mini-codices?

SDKFZ
03-10-2009, 18:28
Thanks, Mate ! Those boxes will look great on any battle-field !

Very nice loader too. Might do me one of those, when im done with all of my other projects :D

Keep it up, Mate !!

/ SDKFZ

OutOfContext
03-10-2009, 18:45
Those are some excellent boxes, Tommy :D

Love the UPS ones.

Tommygun
04-10-2009, 04:03
What sort of paper do you use for your mini-codices?

I just used the left over 110 Lb paper from the boxes.
Thinner paper is better for the inner pages with thicker for the outside.

I'm working on a tank right now, but I may have another printable sheet of boxes next week if people are interested.

Nexus Trimean
04-10-2009, 07:11
Wow, I seriously Wanna Make an entire table around your box idea, A warehouse of sorts.

SSG Snuffy
04-10-2009, 20:19
I'm working on a tank right now, but I may have another printable sheet of boxes next week if people are interested.

I'd definitely be interested! Thanks for the tip with the books, by the way.

Tommygun
06-10-2009, 11:24
Thanks, I hope you guys can find a use for the boxes on your tables.
I'll have another sheet of them soon.

Here is something new. I started this thread with a Macharius a year and a half ago and now this is my second attempt.
The first was a conversion, this one will be a scratch build.
I am using Steve Tidwells? templates with some modifications.
His template is vary good, but I wanted the hull to be a little more accurate.
My version is still not perfect, but I didn't want to redo the hole template.
I also took about 5mm off the main hulls width and a few millimeters off of each track width as well.

For reference I'm using a photocopy of the Macharius line drawings from IA five, scaled up 118%.
The reason for the 118%, is at that size the hatches on the Macharius drawings are 20mm wide, which is exactly the size of the hatches on a FW Leman Russ. (Both kits use the same hatches)
This gives me a good way to measure the Macharius without owning one.
Steve's template seems to be about right in track length and height, but the width was a little wide on the tracks and hull.
Hull length was close enough for me. I have not started on the turret yet so I don't know how close that is.
The driver's area and twin stubber mount in front will need some changing too.
Well that's enough for now.
Bye.


http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1523ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1522ca.jpg

lack0fbettername
06-10-2009, 11:33
Looks good TG, to bad this is one of my least favorite tanks.

Tommygun
06-10-2009, 11:51
Looks good TG, to bad this is one of my least favorite tanks.

Is it the rules or looks?

I think the Vulcan Macharius is like armor plated sex.

lack0fbettername
06-10-2009, 15:09
The Model. I a malcador Man. The Macharius is like the Anit-Malcador.

Eater of Small Things
06-10-2009, 16:14
Jeff likes his superheavy tanks like he likes his women. Reliable, sleek, and with the engine damage rule.

Good luck on the new tank. Nice to see this log come 'full-circle' in a manner or speaking. Also, that's some good work on the side-trim-- which is possibly my least favorite part about scratch-building tanks.

Just curious, how are you going to go about making the tracks? Are they of the same width as land raider tracks?

bugbait_nz
06-10-2009, 20:29
This is looking very sharp!
Im wondering how you do the side trim (the bottom bits)? the ususal partial cut and snap wouldnt work.

Bugbait out

SSG Snuffy
06-10-2009, 20:39
While "armor-plated sex" is an interesting mental picture, mentioning "women" and "superheavy" in the same sentence is probably bad for your health...

Looks great so far, Tommygun. I'll echo EoSM in saying that your side trim looks great! Plus, seeing Bondo on your scratchbuilt armor always makes me smile.

Nexus Trimean
07-10-2009, 00:38
Where did you get your mini shipping container?

Tommygun
07-10-2009, 06:03
Hay guys,
Well lets see, the tracks I'm not looking foreword to, as they will be scratch built.
Tinner is giving me a bad inferiority complex and Mr P does everything in sixes.
So I can at least do one super detailed tank.
The track side details are done with scoring and snapping, but I use 0.5mm plasticard for the details.
With 1mm it would be too hard. I use 1mm for the basic hull and 0.5mm for details/panels.

Bondo is like the plasticard equivalent of having a rubber eraser on your pencil.
I'm not as precis in my cutting as others on this site. Bondo makes the bad things go away.

The shipping containers are from that game AT-43.
Unfortunately I'm not sure if you can still buy them in the cheap scenery packs.
You may have to buy them with a robot model?
Look around the net:http://www.wargamersheadquarters.com/category/accessories-and-rulebooks/

That's it I guess.
-Tom.

SDKFZ
07-10-2009, 17:10
Best of luck with your Macharius, Mate ! Ive had Steves templates for some time now but still not got around to do something with them.
Like you say they, need to be corrected on some parts, to better replicate the FW-model.
Ill be watching your progress, Tommygun !

/ SDKFZ

dood515
07-10-2009, 19:39
Holy "insert your gods name here", all this stuff is amazing.

seeing the 1950s image you found with the 57 chevy in it made me think, as you're such a plasticard ninja and all would it be possible to make one?? if you would accept such a challenge (or be it not for someone of your skill) how much would this cost me? plus being posted to the UK.

Penguin of Death
07-10-2009, 20:47
Hay guys,
Well lets see, the tracks I'm not looking foreword to, as they will be scratch built.

I'm planning a Mach at the moment and was going to use 1/35 Tiger tracks, which at around 20mm wide seem about the correct size

SSG Snuffy
08-10-2009, 01:57
I agree with Penguin of Death... is it really necessary to re-invent the wheel (or track, as the case may be)? Unless you're determined to build the tracks just to prove something, I'd look for an aftermarket alternative.

Tommygun
08-10-2009, 02:09
-Dood515, I'm afraid school has me pretty busy right now.
I have done some commission work, but that was for possible resin casting for sell.

-Penguin, I also have some Academy 1/35 Tiger tracks, but I want to try and make this guy all scratch built if possible.

-Steve's templates are a great starting point if you want to make a Macharius, but the templates are not meant to have all the detail, just the basic shape.

Edit:
I agree with Penguin of Death... is it really necessary to re-invent the wheel (or track, as the case may be)? Unless you're determined to build the tracks just to prove something, I'd look for an aftermarket alternative.
Just proof of mental illness.

Faolan
08-10-2009, 03:19
Ah trying to secure some dole money, eh TG?

I'll take a look and see what I can do for you for tracks, or maybe have done.

Tommygun
08-10-2009, 05:42
Ah trying to secure some dole money, eh TG?

I'll take a look and see what I can do for you for tracks, or maybe have done.

I actually came up with an idea last night that would use c channels with a few minor changes.
So it shouldn't be a big deal after all.

Tommygun
08-10-2009, 06:01
I know......more damned boxes.
Nuclear powered power tools!
Two types of beer.
Medical supplies.
Soda and computer box.
The Gateway box was the hardest.
I had to make it so all the cow spots lined up when you fold the box.
See the attachment below for the printable box sheet.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1526ca.jpg

SSG Snuffy
08-10-2009, 10:31
Just proof of mental illness.

It's all good! :D

Thanks so much for the additional boxes, by the way... I can't wait to see someone's Space Wolf Rhino or Land Raider stocked full of cases of beer!

lack0fbettername
08-10-2009, 11:33
Looks like you got all the essentuals to survive in the 40k universe right there.

Tommygun
08-10-2009, 11:44
Maybe I need snack food?
I almost did potato chip bags, but they would be so small I don't think you could read them.

lack0fbettername
08-10-2009, 15:50
Pizza Boxes?

Penguin of Death
08-10-2009, 16:44
Baked Beans!

Faolan
09-10-2009, 02:33
Pizza boxes and cases of Ramen noodles are all you're missing, mate.

Tommygun
10-10-2009, 08:43
Tank update:
Mostly done with the left side.
Not completely happy with my rivets I made out of 1mm plastic rod.
They are a bit too tall. Overall the model looks OK, but a little clumsy in places.
I may start the tracks tomorrow or do more photo shop stuff.

My hard drive just malfunctioned twice tonight. I have been getting The "Blue Screens" more and more over the last few weeks.
So If the computer hard drive dies, I may disappear randomly.
If so, I may be gone for 6 months until school is over and I find full time work.
Just wanted to warn you, so you can mourn or celebrate.


http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1531ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1534ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1530ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1527ca.jpg

bugbait_nz
10-10-2009, 09:50
NICE! I think that if you hold the tanks at arms length then the rivets will look Ok.

Hope the hard drive survives!

PS have you got an up-todate antivirus installed? viruses can produce problems like this,
Plan B reload your operating system.

Bugbait out

Faolan
10-10-2009, 11:16
Hard drives are cheap mate, cheaper than the anti-virals you seem to need after visiting certain street corners.

In other news, I can't believe it's home made, that's insane looking.

Ash
10-10-2009, 18:29
Awesome scratch build. Good pictures as well.
What make of circle cutter are you using, I picked one up from an Artist materials shop and either I'm crap or it is (I blame the tool!) as I cannot cut good circles.

le Mediko
10-10-2009, 22:28
Very interesting conversion on the Baneblade!

Tommygun
11-10-2009, 03:21
Well my computer is still not dead yet.
I do have four up to date anti virus systems on my computer.
AVG, Zone Alarm, Ad-Aware and Search and Destroy.
They all auto update and run bi weekly. My computer is 6 or 7 years old now, so it's probable hardware.
Today I did reset the power saving settings.
A few weeks ago (about the time I started getting the blue screens) I set the computer to go into standby after an hour to save on electricity.
I'm hoping this could be the source of my problems.
Years ago I gave up on the power saving settings because they kept crashing my game software.
I had hoped they have gotten better over the years, but perhaps they have not?

Back to modeling.
Thank guys, I'm glade you like it.
I'm using two brands of hole punch. Fiskars and a multi-hole leather punch with rotating head (C.S. Osborne & Co. size No. 223).
Unless you are talking about the one for big circles?
That is just a cheap plastic one. Just cut your first pass or revolution very lightly then go a little heaver each pass.

MrP
11-10-2009, 10:10
Ooh, jolly nice, old boy! The rivets don't seem too tall to me.

Ash
11-10-2009, 12:44
Yup. Thats the same piece of kit that I have.
Must be pressing too hard as I find the blade tends to slide out wider on each pass.

SDKFZ
11-10-2009, 18:49
@ Tommygun : Dont know if you want to do something about those rivets, but you could try to use a fine ( say 800-1000 ) sandpaper and gently rubb those rivets down, Mate !

Sides look absolutly wonderful !

/ SDKFZ

Dragon Lord
11-10-2009, 22:27
Great work on the Macharius, the boxes are very nice too (I will more than likely find a use for them in some of my own stuff at some point).
Hope you computer improves, though having 4 different antivirus packages may not be helping, different antiviruses often conflict with each other.

Tommygun
12-10-2009, 03:39
-SDKFZ, I did use sand paper on the first batch. It helped but some of the detail gets in the way.

OK, my obsessive compulsive disorder continues.
More boxes! If you're bored by theses things I should have more tank next week.
I'm an old 1/35 scale tank modeler and I always like adding stuff to the stowage racks of my tanks.
The crews add all kinds of non-military items to them.
These boxes and items I will add as stowage to some of my vehicles.
Note about the boxes:
The Marlboro cigarette cartons and Doritos are best made with regular paper instead of the 110 Lb. paper the boxes are made out of.
You have to stuff the Doritos bag with something soft like cotton balls to fluff it out.
I should have made little orange triangles to go with it, but only just thought of it.
The water bottle box is the most complex to make.
I drew fold and cut lines on them, but they are printed so small you can't see them.
Hopefully the pictures will help.
I wrapped them in plastic wrap for looks. There is a lot of light glare on them from the light, but are earier to see in person.
Two magazines are GQ and FHM, just glue the inside pages to the outside covers.
Several items are just for fun.

Printable sheets below:

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1543c.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1544ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1548ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1550ca.jpg

Tommygun
12-10-2009, 03:41
More photos to help build water bottles.
Notice the slanted bevel on the top of water box or bottles.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1536c.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1538c.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1540c.jpg

Siam-Tiger
12-10-2009, 06:02
Again and again i am absolutely stunning about the things you do here.

I hope your hd will make it, keep up the good work!

TomG
12-10-2009, 08:20
Great line of pasticard stuff. Not sure if we want know counts of used rivets. :)
Iīm thinking on some more plasticard stuff, but you know. I play with 3D to see, how it will look until I start cut plasticard.

SSG Snuffy
12-10-2009, 14:40
Personally, I'm loving the assorted boxes and accessories. Thanks for sharing, Tommygun!

Tommygun
12-10-2009, 17:57
I put these tracks together last night. They are simple to make and I think they look good.
They have a First World War feel to them I think works well with the tank.
I'll call them "Mark I Tommy Squasher Treads?"

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1553ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1555ca.jpg

Bladelord
12-10-2009, 18:02
My realization that I was seeing a full plasticard hull that easily could have been some kind of sold GW tank felt quite odd. Commendations on your untiring production line, sir!
Those tracks are really smartly done, and yep, they have that Great War style that easily finds a fitting home amongst IG tanks.

Ash
12-10-2009, 19:37
Tracks look just right. Good job.

SSG Snuffy
12-10-2009, 23:05
They do look great, no doubt about it. Dare I ask how long it takes to make a single "link?"

bugbait_nz
13-10-2009, 06:55
10 bits per link!!
And just think, in a mere 3 weeks you will have all of the tracks done ;)
Im guessing you arnt going to do the bottom ones?

Makes me want to quit terrain for a while and build a Kil Krusha Tank!!

Bugbait impressed.

Solun Decius
13-10-2009, 09:31
Those tracks look very nice although they look like a fair bit of fiddly work. Of course scratchbuiling a tank always is, so I guess that's a given.
The tank itslef is also very good and the rivets look great.
Not much else to say ... keep us posted!

MrP
13-10-2009, 09:47
They are gorgeous, but I think you're bonkers! :D

Faolan
13-10-2009, 13:06
Ok Tom, here's the deal: You have casting stuff there, ja?

Make a stretch of 3, and a stretch of 5, plus 2 singles, and cast the hell out of them.

TomG
13-10-2009, 13:17
Make a stretch of 3, and a stretch of 5, plus 2 singles, and cast the hell out of them.
I just asked him today with same question via PM. It saves a lot of time, when you can cast own components.

Tommygun
13-10-2009, 18:38
It doesn't feel like it takes that much time to make them.
I have never been able to estimate time when I do a model.
I have the attention span of a gerbil.
So I will cut out 40 sections of C-channel for ten minutes and go check my Email.
Then cut rod for ten more minutes and stop to go look over Warseer.
Next ten more minutes of work followed by another distraction.
Luckily I don't have my work area next to a window or I would probably be casing squirrels ever time one went scrambling past my view.
I did get half a track done last night in less than a hour while watching TV and surfing the internet.
If I have enough C-channel I will do a simplified version of the tracks on the bottom.

lack0fbettername
13-10-2009, 20:20
Tommy gun as always your plasticard work is ace. Makes me look at my stuff and cry.

Tommygun
17-10-2009, 07:18
There have been workers here the last few days repairing the subflooring, so not a lot done.
I did get some work on the tracks finished. One is done, the other is 2/3 done.
I had to hide in my room while the flooring work was being done (small house).
So I was forced to play on my computer, which lead to photoshopping.
I found a photo of a Soylent Green machine on Freaking news.com and turned it into a paper model.
I also made a 28mm scale server farm........I have no idea why ether.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1556ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1557caa.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1558ca.jpg

bugbait_nz
17-10-2009, 08:05
Hmmm, those server racks would look great in my Defence Laser control room, hint hint.

Tinners
17-10-2009, 09:47
The tracks look fantastic.

Tommygun
17-10-2009, 12:50
OK, just don't ask me what protocol it is running.
The Black Box thing is 1 by 4 by 9 in size what ever it is.

Bane_sword
17-10-2009, 12:55
HOLY CRAP! You are talented with plastic card!

Why are you making all those boxes and stuff like water bottles? :D

OutOfContext
17-10-2009, 13:40
The plasticard work is fantasticly good, Tommy!
And the server shelves look brill as well.

Tommygun
17-10-2009, 14:08
Why are you making all those boxes and stuff like water bottles? :D

They are just things to hide behind or add character to a tank's stowage.
I wanted things I could scatter around a table to add some life to a battlefield.

can't_decide
17-10-2009, 14:54
The tracks look great Tommy! I think I'll have to use that on a couple of upcoming projects. The hinges just put it OTT. I'll also be using some of your boxes and stuff for terrain when i get done with tanks for a while.

Bane_sword
17-10-2009, 17:47
They are just things to hide behind or add character to a tank's stowage.
I wanted things I could scatter around a table to add some life to a battlefield.

Ahhh is see, nice idea!

SSG Snuffy
17-10-2009, 18:05
The Soylent Green vending machine is a great addition for the 41st millenium. Thanks for sharing!

SDKFZ
17-10-2009, 19:34
@ Tommygun: Those tracks look ace, Mate ! That Tank will look as good as the "real" one !

Oh, and thanks for the "paperwork"! Who knows, you might see some of them in future battlereports..........

/ SDKFZ

nooker
18-10-2009, 04:43
Your paper stuff is awesome!!! I mean your tanks are very cool too, but I can't use those now & don't know if I'll ever be that cool. I've actually made the Mountain Dew and Marboros (sp?) boxes (the cig box sucks with it being so tiny!!) for my Necro campaign since my buddies like pop and to smoke.

I was wondering if you had thought about using some universe specific stuff? Some of the things that I've come across are Wild Snake (a beer like thing from Necromunda), Iho sticks (cigarettes from Gaunt's Ghosts), and a beverage just called Caffeine which is used in place of coffee in several novels. Necromunda also has several drugs that are marginally legal that could be packaged.

Oh and I do have an offering. I found it long ago on the web. Someone had it posted to their site as a free download.

Khrangar
18-10-2009, 06:08
Tank looks great, as do the boxes. I think the Soylent Green machine needs some vandalism that has 'Is People' on it.

Khrangar

Tommygun
18-10-2009, 06:39
Nooker, I like the way the cardboard is represented as light and dark lines on the boxes.
I may try and reproduce that later on. I use name brand logos off the web as it is easier to get than making them from scratch.
I'll see if I can do something with those names after my mid-terms are over.
The cigarette carton is actually a bit over scale, but it would have been imposable to recognize it if it were any smaller.
It may help to bend the paper with the edge of a steel ruler.
I did most of the work with MS Paint. If you need graffiti it is easy to add it by opening up the box sheets in the MS Paint program.
I'm about to do a very simple cardboard box set next which is very similar to the one Nooker posted.

bugbait_nz
18-10-2009, 07:19
Thanks for the server rack pics! If I use them in my Defence laser project can I include the pics in my plans, with the appropriate disclamer about who the creator is?

Hint for card folding, for my Armoury I made a small pizza box printed on heavy card, the only way I could get a clean fold was to do partially cuts on the inside of the fold and scrape some of the card away.

Bugbait out

Tommygun
18-10-2009, 13:28
Thanks for the server rack pics! If I use them in my Defence laser project can I include the pics in my plans, with the appropriate disclamer about who the creator is?

Bugbait out

Sure, but you should probably include a statement that some images were taken from the internet and are not totally original.
As an example I used this picture to create the vending machine.

nooker
19-10-2009, 02:12
Nooker, I like the way the cardboard is represented as light and dark lines on the boxes.
I may try and reproduce that later on.

I wish I could say they are mine, but like I said I found them. They were freely given up on the web, so you should feel free.


I use name brand logos off the web as it is easier to get than making them from scratch.

Oh that totally makes sense and it doesn't retract from the general coolness of the pieces. I've printed them all out and am totally using them in my games.


I'll see if I can do something with those names after my mid-terms are over.

That would be awesome. I attached something I found in my google searches that might help you along.


The cigarette carton is actually a bit over scale, but it would have been imposable to recognize it if it were any smaller.

It's still very cool even if it is hard to do. The only think I could think to do is layer a few sheets of card stock with logos on the outside.


It may help to bend the paper with the edge of a steel ruler.

I score the folds with an x-acto and then edge the models with felt tip markers (I use sharpies). It makes it very easy to fold and the edging makes them look finished (but the brown I used on the boxes I posted was too dark so that looks bad). World Works Games (http://www.worldworksgames.com/) has some great free tutorials. They also have some really cool product. I've bought all the PC (Platform Command) and the Mars Stations sets and am very happy with them.


I did most of the work with MS Paint. If you need graffiti it is easy to add it by opening up the box sheets in the MS Paint program.

I'm a Mac user, but with Appleworks I might do similar things.


I'm about to do a very simple cardboard box set next which is very similar to the one Nooker posted.

I look forward to seeing what you do!

Tommygun
19-10-2009, 10:32
Quick update:
Tracks and sponsons are done.
...Well except for some small trim pieces around the edges.


http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1562ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1563ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1565ca.jpg

Tommygun
19-10-2009, 10:41
I also did this.
I had several images on my dying hard drive for some time, but never got around to putting them together.
Bugbait's defense laser project made me think about it again, so I threw this together.
I'm going to start a separate log in the terrain section this week for all the paper stuff.
So the printable sheet of this will be there.

Edit terrain log here:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226343


http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1561ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1560ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Scenery/DSCF1559ca.jpg

TomG
19-10-2009, 11:03
I also did this.
I had several images on my dying hard drive for some time, but never got around to putting them together.
Bugbait's defense laser project made me think about it again, so I threw this together.
I'm going to start a separate log in the terrain section this week for all the paper stuff.
So the printable sheet of this will be there.


Hm, when I look at these track links closer, then I have question. Canīt here some welding via putty between track and this rotation tube? Cos I donīt think, that in real they will glue it :)

Da_Killa
19-10-2009, 11:57
your plasticard skills are ace as always tommy, its starting to look great

SSG Snuffy
19-10-2009, 23:19
Wow, those drive sections really look great! I like the curved front on the sponson; it gives it a sort of steampunk or organic look.

elotsip
20-10-2009, 01:39
Very nice track links. It would be worthwhile to cast those puppies up to mass produce them.

Tommygun
20-10-2009, 04:45
Thanks guys.
I hope to get to the turret this week.

TomG, I can see what you mean by the wielding marks, but I would go mad trying to added wield marks to all the tracks.
Those individual tracks are to be used as spare tracks and I could add the wielding to them as there will only be ten of those.

I finished one med-term test tonight on National Electrical Code.
I didn't finish it in time and I'm usually one of the first to finish.
I think I did well enough to pass, but I'm not a happy modeler tonight.

TomG
20-10-2009, 11:01
TomG, I can see what you mean by the wielding marks, but I would go mad trying to added wield marks to all the tracks.
Those individual tracks are to be used as spare tracks and I could add the wielding to them as there will only be ten of those.


Yeah, this is it. But it is on you, if you use it to look these tracks more real.

SSG Snuffy
20-10-2009, 14:18
I finished one med-term test tonight on National Electrical Code.

Are you an electrician, or studying to become one? Just curious...

Eater of Small Things
20-10-2009, 19:22
I am happy that you didn't skimp on the track detail underneath the tank. Am I correct in guessing you have a psuedo-permanent layer of super glue on your fingertips now?

how's you make the rounded tip of the bit up near the front? I've noticed they appear on most of the IG tanks. Are they part of the drive train or something?

Tommygun
21-10-2009, 05:57
-I'm getting an A.S. in electrical technology, so basically an electrician.
Once I have the degree I can take the National Electrician's test, but I still need 4000 hours of on the job training to become an licensed electrician.
I have a couple of years working as an electrician/factory machine maintenance for Sara Lee, but I don't know how much credit I get for that time.

-Eater if you are taking about this: see picture.
I'm sure it must be a track tension device. Every conveyor belt I have worked on has one of these.
It is connected to an idler like wheel and it moves the wheel foreword to reduce slack and backwards to increase slack.
You just use a wrench on one of the middle bolts, on the threaded shaft, to make the adjustment.
I made it with a preformed half round rod that I purchased.
I just had to carve and sand the end to be round. Then add a bunch of detail to it.

Tommygun
26-10-2009, 10:42
I did a big rebuild on the chassis area. I decided I wanted it to be more in proportion to the line drawings.
Added 1cm to the front of the vehicle and stretched the upper hull 17mm more forward.
I also move the turret ring 13mm forward.

You may not be able to tell but there is also more detail added the the track assembly.
Just a bit of side trim. I need to now add track assembly detail to the side that faces the front hull.

The turret came out fine, but the turret basket was wrong, so that was reworked as well.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1569ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1571ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/Mach1a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1572ca.jpg

MrP
26-10-2009, 10:55
That really is a beautiful piece of Macharius, old boy!

SDKFZ
26-10-2009, 13:59
I can only second what MrP said : Great Marc. youre making here ! Ill be right here watching your progress.....:D

/ SDKFZ

Dark Fire
26-10-2009, 14:04
I'm definitely keeping an eye on this! Great peace of machinery! Blood for the Machine God!!! (is this right? :P)

Dictator
28-10-2009, 03:33
Wow. All hail the Omnissiah!

Faolan
28-10-2009, 07:01
Yeah, I'm just going to go cry now.

SSG Snuffy
28-10-2009, 23:56
Well, I can't really say that I have a preference for either the "before" or "after" shots, but if it makes you happy then all the better. The treads and drive units look great... I'm looking forward to whatever you cook up next.

belette
29-10-2009, 10:09
love that ^^

Bladelord
29-10-2009, 11:08
Ho my! You should design vehicles for GW or FW, Tommygun, and no joking - you're that good as made obvious with those very pictures.

Such a manic scratchbuilder as you might have some interest in these two links:

Tank treads (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=227319) (also a hint for you; you could cast your own and sell).

Mk. I Rhino conversion and smart rivetting (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225932).

Best of luck and joy, chap.

Faolan
04-11-2009, 03:51
Hey Tom, how do you get your wire wound so neat and tight around the tube? Do you do it, tighten, then glue? Are you doing it after the tube is cut to length, or before so its easier to work with?

I'm trying it over here on a thunderhammer for a conversion project, and it's giving me bloody fits.

Tommygun
04-11-2009, 06:14
Hey Tom, how do you get your wire wound so neat and tight around the tube? Do you do it, tighten, then glue? Are you doing it after the tube is cut to length, or before so its easier to work with?

I'm trying it over here on a thunderhammer for a conversion project, and it's giving me bloody fits.

I use really small gauge wire to start with and copper is preferable as it is a soft metal with very little spring back.
I don't use any glue. I start usually after I cut it to length, but before I add any detail.
When you start to do your winding, leave the first inch of the wire under your thumb to help maintain tension, then slowly wrap the rod tightly.
When you are done, cut the extra wire off at both ends.
You may just need to practice. I used to do Mil-Spec soldering for a defense contractor, so I did a lot of that type of wire winding.

Tommygun
05-11-2009, 03:27
Small progress, but I did something.
Driver's compartment and gunner's station.

I do like that Mk. I Rhino. Maybe future project?
I don't have the right machinery to cast tracks that small.
I can often build faster than I can cast on some things.
Casting can take a long time when you look at Preparation, drying time, cleaning molds up between casts and clean up at the end.
Plus the material is not cheap. You have to make a whole lot of something to make it worth while.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1580ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1578cc.jpg

Faolan
05-11-2009, 06:14
Metal's a bit better for that though, if you get a miscast you can simply melt it down, unlike resin.

Looking good TG, although I'm surprised you went with the many flat sides approach for the mini-turret, instead of round.

Klaus, not Santa
05-11-2009, 06:59
Oh, this baby comes along very, very nice!
Good job.

Casting can take a long time when you look at Preparation, drying time, cleaning molds up between casts and clean up at the end.
Plus the material is not cheap. You have to make a whole lot of something to make it worth while.

I second that!
Most people underestimate the effort with casting (till they try for the first time). The learning curve is quite steep, but the road to good results is steep, winding, and full of speed bumps and rocks :)
Cheers
Klaus

Tommygun
06-11-2009, 02:50
Thank you gentlemen.
My mid terms are over so I hope to get more done.
Those flat sides you are seeing are actually one piece of plastic that was scored every 3mm and wrapped around a couple of round disks.
I then added Bondo and sanded it a little. The result is a nice round surface.

On a side note. A mountain lion was seen chasing a small boar through town today.
That is the second mountain lion this year.
That's a little too Wild Kingdom for me. Although my car was attack by a deer two years ago.
It's getting to be a tough neighborhood.

Faolan
06-11-2009, 03:09
LOL TG, I've had my car attacked by deer before, and not those puny variety you get around there! 100kilo + buck charged into the left front quarter panel of the old Buick I was driving then- almost took it through the window except I had mad braking skillz.

Again though, surprised you went with the flat-wrapped face instead of using a PVC pipe or the like for a round turret. Not in a bad way, just surprised.

SSG Snuffy
07-11-2009, 03:18
I had a pheasant almost come through the (open) driver's window once on my old pickup. THAT was exciting...

I'm guessing it was easier to fabricate the stubber mount from a piece of flat card than to try to find a piece of pipe in the appropriate size. Or maybe he's just feeling persnickety... either way, it looks great!

With regards to casting... do you think it might be possible to pull a page from Hirst Arts architectural line and make molds from silicone rubber and cast parts in dental plaster? It seems like the dental plaster would be sturdy enough for wargaming usage (there are several different varieties in differing degrees of durability).

dblaz3r
07-11-2009, 03:41
Excellent stuff as always, your amazing skills have inspired me to try my hand. Which brings me to ask, do you have a template for making the Thunderbolt or a link to a good one that you might be willing to share? I would be very grateful for any help. :D

Drakon
07-11-2009, 05:00
Wow mate just worked through this entire log and I gota say you have a nice collection of scratch builds.

Especially like the maruader and Im trying to build one right now (first scratch build for me) and was wondering how you did the turbines. Can you share you technique?

Tommygun
07-11-2009, 07:18
Lets see if I can explain this.
Step 1 Cut out Three 0.5mm thick disk the diameter you need and cut two disk in to pie sections.
Step 2 Drill a hole into all three disk.
Step 3Put a post into the hole of the third disk without pie section cut into it.
Break off the blades (pie sections) you need from the two disk and overlap them around a central post.
You will have leftover blades. When done trim down the blades that hang over the bottom disk
Step 4 Feel free to curse a lot, as it is a big pain to get it to look right.
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Instuctions-1.jpg

Drakon
07-11-2009, 08:22
sweet thanks that seems so simple will try this out and see how it goes.

rev
07-11-2009, 22:13
*sigh*

I wish I had some of tommyguns skills. really I do. You're a legend!

*sighs again*

rev

TomG
11-11-2009, 07:30
Or try find and then buy some replacement set for regular plastic planes. As this Jet Intake from A-10 in 1/48 scale. I think it will be big enought for Thunderhawk.
http://www.quickboost.net/Obrazky/48173.jpg

Tommygun
16-11-2009, 00:57
I started detailing the hull and did a little bit of work on the turret.
It's not an exact copy, but it will do for me.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1604ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1603aa.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1602ca.jpg

Faolan
16-11-2009, 02:18
So is it that you want the entire thing to be scratchbuilt, or were you too cheap to simply buy the hatch bits?

Tommygun
16-11-2009, 03:54
I have 2 or 3 of the FW hatches, but I want this one all scratch built.
Now If I can just figure out how to do 6 at a time, like some tread heads do around here, my life will be complete.

Solun Decius
16-11-2009, 08:26
The tracks and sides look really great now. The track link design itself really came out perfectly.
The overall form of the tank is very cool, so I can't wait to see more of this thing detailed!

can't_decide
16-11-2009, 13:11
The whole thing is looking great, but the tread especially looks good on the Macharius like that. Like I said before I will definitely be using your method for the tread on my next one. It just looks too good not to. Can't wait to see more work done on this one! One question, how is your turret attached to the hull? I see the ring and hole in the middle. Does the turret have a pin that goes into the hole?

MrP
16-11-2009, 15:42
There is a lot of love and attention in that tank, old man. It's a damned impressive sight!

Tommygun
16-11-2009, 18:48
One question, how is your turret attached to the hull? I see the ring and hole in the middle. Does the turret have a pin that goes into the hole?

Yes it will. Right now I have left it off as it would be in the way.
I also need to design the front of the turret so I can easily change the barrels out for different weapons.
It will probably be similar to my first Macharius.

SDKFZ
16-11-2009, 19:29
This is coming along very nicely, Mate ! I see that youve corrected some of the "flaws" on those drawings, like that the driver and stubber should switch place.
Youve also redone the trackguards so they match the FW ones. GREAT !

Keep posting !

/ SDKFZ

Yayale
16-11-2009, 21:22
Looking very impressive :D

SSG Snuffy
16-11-2009, 21:52
I'm interested to see how you skin over the commander's cupola on the side of the turret. I'm betting there will be lots of Bondo involved!

bugbait_nz
16-11-2009, 22:06
Track Question
The tubes that are cut into 3 sections between each track, how do you cut then square and the same length?

Faolan
17-11-2009, 02:18
I can see him doing that Snuffy, or delicately cutting the cupola area out, and grafting in a piece of PVC pipe or would doweling in the same diameter.

Tommygun
17-11-2009, 03:37
Track Question
The tubes that are cut into 3 sections between each track, how do you cut then square and the same length?

I measure out the plastic rods with my steel ruler and mark them in pencil.
I'll have a dozen marks in groups of three on the rod.
When I cut them, I place my box cutter blade against the plastic rod and lightly press down while rolling the rod along the cutting mat.
I don't cut all the through them, just make a scoring mark all the way around.
You have to keep your cutting blade very straight so your scoring cut ends where you started.
In other words a perfect ring around the rod.
When I go to glue them to the tracks I break them off in groups of three and then break them into individual pieces for gluing.

Tommygun
22-11-2009, 09:05
More work on the Turret.
I wrapped two layers of 0.5mm plasticard over the round bulkhead area to form the area below the commander's hatch.
Three fourth of the detailing is done on the turret, not counting the rivets or gun mantel.




http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1616ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1615ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1617ca.jpg

can't_decide
22-11-2009, 14:13
That turret looks great Tommy. I forgot if you said it already or not, but what armament are you going for on this one?

SSG Snuffy
22-11-2009, 15:30
Nice! I love the lids on the stowage bins... the overhanging lip is a great detail.

Irbian
22-11-2009, 16:05
How do you blend the plasticard? with heat?

bugbait_nz
23-11-2009, 07:00
Good tip on cutting tubes, going to be using that! and the recent work is very nice as usual!

Bugbait out

Tommygun
23-11-2009, 10:25
That turret looks great Tommy. I forgot if you said it already or not, but what armament are you going for on this one?


How do you blend the plasticard? with heat?

-I'm going to arm it with two removable Battle Cannons.
I need to build the front so I can switch between the Vulcan and the other two types of cannon.
The Vulcan has a nice looking front turret. I could simplify things by building it like that and just changing the barrels like I had planned on my original Macharius.


-I didn't heat the plasticard, I just glued and clamped one layer of 0.5mm card over the bulkhead frame.
0.5mm card bends easily. After the first layer dried I sanded down any problem areas and then added the second layer of plasticard.

Arsenal
23-11-2009, 10:28
Tommy - any tips on cutting smooth circles from plasticard?

Tommygun
23-11-2009, 10:41
Get a circle cutter like this. I bought mine for $5 dollars.
Don't try and cut it in one pass. Start out by cutting a light circle and with each revolution of the compass cutter press a little harder.
After several revolutions it is scored enough to break it out.
Sometimes you may also need to score both side to get a clean break.

Arsenal
23-11-2009, 10:52
Perfect!

Thanks so much

sigur
02-12-2009, 19:03
Circle cutter, eh? I might have a use for such a thing once I actually get my lazy hinder to do some plasticard work. :p

Stunning work as always, tommygun!

SSG Snuffy
05-12-2009, 14:52
A question about the Bondo... how do you use it? Do you scrape it over the gap to be filled , trowel off the excess, and wait for it to dry, then sand/file it as necessary? I actually used spackle on some models and it worked fairly well for scenery applications, but it's too brittle to scratchbuild or kitbash with.

Tommygun
06-12-2009, 01:38
A question about the Bondo... how do you use it? Do you scrape it over the gap to be filled , trowel off the excess, and wait for it to dry, then sand/file it as necessary? I actually used spackle on some models and it worked fairly well for scenery applications, but it's too brittle to scratchbuild or kitbash with.

That is exactly how I use it.
The one compliant about it is that it is a little brittle, but nothing like spackle.
Bondo was designed to be used on rigid steel and plastic can flex more.
There are better materials for this, like Milliput, but they are much more time consuming to use and more expensive.
Bondo is quick and easy. Just don't use it in areas that may get flexed, like a thin wing.

SSG Snuffy
06-12-2009, 19:03
Thanks for the tips... I'll see if I can't find a small container and give it a try.

Col_Greif
10-12-2009, 21:49
Most excellent work on that Macharius, it looks great! And I also like your tutorial for making fans, I'll need one for a jet turbine I'm planning to build.

Greif

Tommygun
02-01-2010, 19:43
Small update and proof that I'm still alive.
The turret is 90% done not counting rivets.
I have two different barrel lengths for the two cannon types.
I'm surprised that the cannons are turning out to be the most time consuming part of the tank.
I'm still trying to make the guns removable so I can also build the Vulcan version as well.
I could be done in a week or two, but I just don't have the motivation to put into it right now.


http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1639ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1640a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1641ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1642ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1643ca.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Tank/DSCF1644ca.jpg

Solun Decius
02-01-2010, 19:49
Good progress man! The turret is excellent, with perfect detail (not too loaded and not too plain) and the barrels look great too.
If commenting on the thread helps the motivation, here you go! Otherwise it's always best to do these things in your own time, and they'll turn out much better, if a little later.

can't_decide
02-01-2010, 19:54
Looks great Tommy. I had toyed with the barrels being interchangeable, and I think you've nailed it. All the details are great on the turret.

OutOfContext
02-01-2010, 20:02
Gee, I haven't been here for a while!

Everything looks brilliant as normal, Tommy! The Macharius is amazing :D

Eater of Small Things
02-01-2010, 20:26
Those barrels are awesome. I was actually trying to build a vanquisher cannon last night and had an impossible time bending the strips around the barrel and getting them to stay put. I have much to learn from your plasticard-fu, Tom. Good to see the work continues.

Mega Nutz
02-01-2010, 20:52
Very impressive build!!

Detailing is amazing........

MrP
03-01-2010, 01:19
She's looking exquisitely detailed, old boy. Very beautiful work!

Faolan
03-01-2010, 01:38
Holy hell Tom, that's stunning.

Ghaust Mortium
03-01-2010, 02:02
Another bondo question: It appears to that you are only useing the hardener. Is this true or is it just your brand of bondo? I jsut bought some hardener cause thats what it looks like but i don't want to use it if thats not what you are useing