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Tommygun
05-02-2008, 02:20
I have several projects in the works right now. I thought I might combine them into one log. First up is a heavy tank. Here is my attempt at a Macharius tank. I'm using a Banblade main hull and turret and the track assembly from a Land Raider. This version is armed with a vulcan auto cannon, but the barrels are removable, so I can change the armament. I started this tank 6 months ago but, put it aside until I saw Vemetic's tank log. So this is what I have and what I want it to be.



Index:
Aquila Lander & Thunderbolt: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=2

Vulture: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=3

Custom gargoyles: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=4

Thunderbolt Painted: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=4

Warhound finished: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=6

Marauder Destroyer: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=6

Marauder Painting: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=20

Blasta Bomber: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=8

Orkimedes and "Phatt Boy":http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=9

Faolan: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=11

Dread Line: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=12

Valkyrie & Ork Trucks: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=12

Ironclad dreadnought: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=15

Hammer Time: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=17

Nobs & Things: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=17

Box O Dread: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=17

Imperial Art Deco: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=18
And Here: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=34
Here too: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=37

Battle Wagon: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=21

Exorcist & Immolator: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=23

Modular armored troop design: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=25

Ogryns: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=27
& http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=29

Vendetta Valkyrie Mod: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=28

Death Roller: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=29

Kannons: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=30

Punisher: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=31

Cadian 3rd Inf Div : http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=31

Goblin Junknot: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=32

Penal Legion: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=33

lasgun to M4/M16: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=39

The Emperor's new clothes: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=41

Chain Axes: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=42

Macharius: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=44

Sherman Russ: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=51

Chimera/Bradley: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4542621#post4542621

M7 FIST/ Hellhound, M163/Hydras and M106 mortar carriers/Griffins : http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=64

Chimera/Bradley are Done!: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=65

Steve Tid's Vulture template: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126270&page=66

Heavy Support Imperial Guard: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?126270-Tommygun-s-Backwater-Forgeworld/page67

Full Frontal 7th Cavalry of Cadia's 3rd ID, Troop Crazy Horse: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?126270-Tommygun-s-Backwater-Forgeworld/page68

SOC-R Riverene boat: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?126270-Tommygun-s-Backwater-Forgeworld/page71

Custom Bases: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?126270-Tommygun-s-Backwater-Forgeworld/page72

Generic Camo Troops: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?126270-Tommygun-s-Backwater-Forgeworld/page73

Snake in a Box; More camo markers: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?126270-Tommygun-s-Backwater-Forgeworld/page74

Black Knights vehicles: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?126270-Tommygun-s-Backwater-Forgeworld/page75

Tommygun
05-02-2008, 02:25
Here are more views of the tank. It is mostly assemble, but I have a lot more detailing to do.

projectkmo
05-02-2008, 02:42
Thats really impressive! I'm subscribing to this!

Does it come apart? I mean, can we see more pics of what you did to the land raider tread assembly and some close ups of your scratch built plating?

Very cool!

Tommygun
05-02-2008, 04:15
I had some trouble with the land raider's track assembly. If I had to do it over again I might scratch build them. Basically I cut them in half and cut the track covers off the main hull. I added a 2 1/2 in.(63mm) spacer to the tracks. This caused a problem though, as this made the tank a little longer and taller than a Beneblade. So I rebuilt the tracks. I reduced the spacer on the tracks to 1 1/2 in. (38mm). Then cut them in half the long way to cut out 3/4 in. (19mm) out of the middle to reduce the hight. Basically you are cutting the tracks into four quarters, which is not easy. It might be easier scratch building them and make your own track links or buy some tank links off of some modeling web site. I will show you some of the early pictures before I rebuilt the tracks, so you can see the process. The last picture is after I rebuilt it. I will try and get better close up of the armor later.

cyrus
05-02-2008, 06:44
very nice, although I think you overdid it a bit on those mega bolters...

Tommygun
06-02-2008, 09:47
Here are some close up pictures of the armor plating. I used Grandt Line hex bolts (#81) and round rivets (#156) on most areas. The plastic armor plates help cover the holes on the land raider tracks. If you plan on doing this remember to mount the tracks backwards relative to the original land raider. I also included a picture of the turret mount. On the original Baneblade, the turret seats off to one side and the Macharius tank's turret is in the middle. I added the sheet of plastic so I could remount the turret.

Tommygun
09-02-2008, 04:55
I think I'm done detailing this guy. I'll probable add a heavy stubber to the commander's hatch, but that's it. The barrels on my vulcan are a bit longer than the original, but I wanted to exaggerate them some because I think they are the best feature of this tank design. I think I'll paint it green like the Forge World one with a lot of weathering. Later I will make different barrels for it for different armament load outs. I have already started a titan project and I'll post pictures of what I have after I paint the tank. Here is also a link to my Aquila Lander project.http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123104
Aquila Lander - WarSeer

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0285aa.jpghttp://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0281Web.jpg

MF3000
09-02-2008, 05:42
Dear lord good sir... you are a master with them plastic bits!

sj

Tommygun
21-02-2008, 09:43
I have finally painted the tank. I like to make my models well weathered. I think it gives them more character. I forgot to paint the tank commander, so he is missing in the finished photos. My next project is a Warhound Titan, I'll post pictures


http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0296a.jpghttp://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0294a.jpghttp://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0292a.jpghttp://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0291z.jpg

Brother-Captain De Angele
21-02-2008, 09:45
i like how this came out but i think you should've shorten the barrels or extended the armour but still this is f ing awesome cant wait to see the warhound.

MF3000
21-02-2008, 11:14
I think the barrels need some wear and tear... burn marks and such. That would really make this tank osome.

sj

El Presedente
21-02-2008, 14:30
That Is Class it really is, I'd been planning something similar but never came round to it, great work though.

warhound
21-02-2008, 15:15
While I cannot knock the build, skill or stamina, would it not have been better to buy one??
Reason- Original Macharius £90
baneblade £60
Landraider £35
spending hours adding rivets and gouging plasticard
£Priceless

Sorry, bit mean- but great build none the less!

cheers

Warhound

Tommygun
22-02-2008, 00:39
I think the barrels need some wear and tear... burn marks and such. That would really make this tank osome.

sj
Yes, I think you are right. I have some testors scorched titanium I could use on the barrels. I also have some black weathering powders as well.


While I cannot knock the build, skill or stamina, would it not have been better to buy one??
Reason- Original Macharius £90
baneblade £60
Landraider £35
spending hours adding rivets and gouging plasticard
£Priceless

Sorry, bit mean- but great build none the less!

cheers

Warhound
I bought the baneblade and landraider parts as bits from the warstore. I spent $80 US vs. $180. If I did it again, I would scratch build the track assemble and not use the landraider. This way, it would cost about $50 to build one. As far as time spent, it took me one week to build. The rivets only took an hour, so time is not a big deal.

Tommygun
22-02-2008, 08:42
And here it is. My Warhound Titan! Victory starts with De-Feet.:)
My titan will be running. One foot will be up in the air and not touching the ground. But so that the titan model will not fall over, I need to support the foot. I will let the foot rest on a brick wall. I am going to make it look like the foot is bursting through the wall as it is running by it.

Tommygun
23-02-2008, 08:19
Next up, I have the legs done. You can see how one of the legs is bent. This is the leg that the foot will be resting/bursting through the wall as it is running. You might notice the bottom of the foot of this leg, that I added a tread pattern to it. I wanted more detail than just a plain flat surface. I keep feeling the legs need more details, like more bolts or scoring more panel lines on to the plastic. I'm not sure

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0298a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0300a.jpghttp://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0299a.jpg

Tommygun
24-02-2008, 08:36
Small update here. Completed the waist and the head. The head may not look that big of a deal, but it was the hardest part of this build! There is just a lot of cutting to put it together.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0304a.jpg

Mrlemonjelly
24-02-2008, 17:38
Aww man, your Warhound is still a long way off completion but already you've made mine look like crap!

Dracomancer
24-02-2008, 19:32
Woah, very nice work, i'll be watching this log with interest :).

Tommygun
25-02-2008, 10:59
Now we have a torso! I'm getting closer! Next will be the weapons, then the base for the titan and finally assembly and painting. I'm still not sure of how I will paint it. May be a three tone gray splinter camouflage? Does anyone know a good reference source for the different titan units and their coloring?

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0311a.jpghttp://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0312a.jpg

Mewy
25-02-2008, 11:38
I bow down to the plasticard master: HOLY ****! That's the best scratch build detail I've ever seen on a superheavy. The Macharius is perfect IMO and that warhound looks thusfar flawless. Surely you're using etched plasticard as well as the plain stuff... or have I missed something...

Tommygun
25-02-2008, 12:03
Thank you, and yes some of the plasticard is etched. I used a clapboard type plasticard for louvered air vent on the back of the torso and a few other details. The raised foot of the titan has tread on it and is made of strips of plasticard/styrene glued down to make the tread pattern.

Slaaaaaanesh
25-02-2008, 13:25
The macharius is great and the warhound is ace can't wait to see the finished model.

Also your Landraider hacking inspired me to crack mine open. Check out my link for details. (This is not shameless self promotion, reading your thread genuinely helped me.)

Mrlemonjelly
25-02-2008, 16:52
No pictures, but a lot of detail:

http://www.epic40k.co.uk/force/titanorders.pdf

Tommygun
26-02-2008, 01:52
Slaaaaanesh, yes I have been watching your drop pods. I like them and it will probable be a future project for me. The only advice I can offer, if you saw your landraider tracks, do it slowly and be careful to keep your saw at a 90 degree angle to the tracks. A sanding block helps afterwards to even things out.

Mrlemonjelly, thank you I can't deside on color or background on it. This may help me.

Tommygun
26-02-2008, 09:16
Say hello to my little friends! I have the weapons done now. I also have a base with the legs attach to it. I will post pictures tomorrow. I thinking about a three tone desert camouflage, I have seen on some of the renegade tanks in Imperial Armor 5. I don't think the Death Korp use titans but I think am going to use their markings.
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0308aa.jpg

Tommygun
26-02-2008, 09:25
More picturs

Lost Egg
26-02-2008, 09:31
Whoa...tis very impressive. You must be very patient with all that plasticard!:p

HN

Brother-Captain De Angele
27-02-2008, 09:10
wow mano, i see how you did your vulcan heavy bolter was it hard to attached the tubes of plasticard to the other bit or was it easy? the plasma blastgun is uber great cant wait to see the warhound it finshed!

Tommygun
27-02-2008, 11:28
De Angele, Thank you. I explained how I did the Mega Bolter in a different thread. Here is a link to it if your interested. You may have to scowl down to find it. It is post #4582, on a very long running thread!http://warseer.com/forums/m-p-t-general-discussion/14209-imperial-guard-tread-head-thread-230.html#post2381895
The Imperial Guard Tread-head thread - Page 230 - WarSeer

I'm painting it now, but I ran out of the color I need. I decided on a three tone desert camouflage.

aad
27-02-2008, 11:43
what i,am curious about is that you made one serious impressive vulcan mega bolter on that macharius tank.

and you made the vulcan mega bolter for your warhound a lot smaller in size.??:confused:

Tommygun
27-02-2008, 12:02
Aad, they are not that much different in size if you see them side by side. I did exaggerate them more on the tank by making them longer. I think thats what makes them seem smaller on the titan is that you only see a small part of the barrels coming out of the arm. I had an actual template to work off of for the titan, but the tank I made up as I went along. I wanted to exaggerate the barrels for the tank, because I think that is the best part of the vehicle. Also makes it more menacing.

Tommygun
28-02-2008, 04:58
This may be my last post for the next few weeks. At least for the titan. I have the legs together now and painted. I have run out of the paint I need and none of the stores in the area have it, so it will be a while until I can order it off the net. I have a lot more to add to the base. Things like flying bricks where the foot hits the brick wall and broken tiles where the other foot comes down.

Tommygun
03-03-2008, 08:45
I got bored waiting for the paint to arrive for my titan, so I made this Thunderbolt fighter over the weekend. I put magnets on the pylons for weapons. It was a quick little project that took 8 hours to build. Having templates helped. I may use an Italian WW II paint job for it. I don't have the right paint for that ether right now.:(

Mewy
03-03-2008, 10:32
You scratch-built a thunderbolt... in one weekend?! Holy mother of god that's fast. Not to mention it looks flawless. I can't wait to see the base completed for the titan though, really cool idea with it smashing through a building.

Tommygun
04-03-2008, 00:45
I'm still bored!!!! Waiting on paint. I might start an IG Vulture tonight. In the mean time I photographed some of my completed models I have made.

Tommygun
04-03-2008, 02:14
Walking Dread

Here are my dreadnots. I have about 8 more to assemble too. The first step with coping with an addiction, is admitting you have one.

Brother-Captain De Angele
04-03-2008, 06:14
holy christ! you have an f ton of dreads! So your gonna make a vulture hey? cant wait to see your magic at work on that.
Thanks,
De Angele.

codename_greendawn
04-03-2008, 06:54
Well, if it took 8 hours for a thunderbolt, I'll go for a walk and check for photos of this finished Vulture when I get back :P

Tommygun
04-03-2008, 09:12
These were originally posted on an other thread, but I wanted to combine them in one thread. I made it out of the Battle for Macragge box set crashed lander. Here is a link to the original that has information on the building of it.http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123104
Aquila Lander - WarSeer

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0211fna.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0212fna.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0216fna.jpg

Tommygun
04-03-2008, 09:15
More pictures:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0221fna.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0226AA.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0227AA.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0228AA.jpg

Tommygun
04-03-2008, 09:17
Even More:

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0255clseup.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0259cc.jpg

Tommygun
04-03-2008, 09:18
And Finally:

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0260.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0261aa.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0262cc.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0263dd.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/Aquila/DSCF0264dd.jpg

Lost Egg
04-03-2008, 09:39
I got bored waiting for the paint to arrive for my titan, so I made this Thunderbolt fighter over the weekend. I put magnets on the pylons for weapons. It was a quick little project that took 8 hours to build. Having templates helped. I may use an Italian WW II paint job for it. I don't have the right paint for that ether right now.:(

The Thunderbolt looks awesome! You have templates? Any chance of a copy please? :D

HN

Brother-Captain De Angele
04-03-2008, 10:32
Muhahaha! this is an example of the tommygun magic! great job the aquila, cant wait to see the titan painted up, speaking of that has the paint come so you can paint that baby? and cant wait to see you vulture, continue your great work.
De Angele.

Dark Apostle
04-03-2008, 10:49
Really good work on the lander! Much better than the on in Firebase I think, which had the dust and gravel still on it.

Tommygun
04-03-2008, 11:48
The Thunderbolt looks awesome! You have templates? Any chance of a copy please? :D

HN

Hairy Norseman, PM and send me your Email and I will send you templates. Anyone else who wants them can do the same. I have a dozen deferent templates. I can't post them on the tread because of copyright issues.

Tommygun
05-03-2008, 10:32
I am still working on the Vulture. I'm grateful to have templates, but these are the hardest I have ever used. No pictures or instructions on what to do. Some of the parts I'm not sure what to do with as well as some fitting problems. Some major parts aren't even shown. You have to make them up as you go along. The template is more of a starting point then a real template. I should have pictures in a few days. It will probable be 2 or 3 weeks before the paint gets here for the titan. I did photograph my "Wazzdaka". Did I spell it right? I made him out of 40k and fantasy parts a week before GW announced there would be new bikes for the orks and new rules for Wazzdaka! I'm not sure if he still has the twin autocannons and the grot helper?

Tommygun
11-03-2008, 11:29
I just got an Email from the company I ordered my paint from. They say they don't have the right credit card information, so I have to redo my order again. So I have to put off the titan another 3 weeks! My IG Vulture is driving me crazy. Some of the parts on the template are just wrong. It is going to take a lot longer than I had planed. I took a break from it before I went "Postal" and finished off my Tyranid Veterans squad. I'm posting their pictures here along with some of my HQ boys. I need to make a light box to photograph them in, the colors are all washed out.

Faolan
11-03-2008, 11:34
Very nice Tyrannic Vets, Tommygun.

Don't suppose you'd be willing to give an overview and your thoughts on the Vulture template and construction?

Tommygun
11-03-2008, 11:52
Very nice Tyrannic Vets, Tommygun.

Don't suppose you'd be willing to give an overview and your thoughts on the Vulture template and construction?

Vulture Template=SUCKS!!!!

If I had to do it over, I would do my own scratch build. I'm already halfway through the build, so I'll finish it. It won't be great, but it will be serviceable. If you are interested in building the Vulture I can Email the templates to you, if you PM me your Email. Just don't use the templates to build the Vulture. Look at the templates as a rough note book. They show you how to break down the Vulture into subassemblies. They can help get you started.

Tommygun
13-03-2008, 11:48
So here is what I have so far on the Vulture. All the major areas are done. Just the lift jets and detailing is left. I don't hate it, but I'm also not real impressed by it. The proportions aren't right and some of the major shapes are wrong. If you could see a top view of the wings next to a real Vulture, you can see a major difference. The tail booms are too short as well. Originally I planed on using the templates to build a Valkyrie, but I have canceled that idea now. Just hoping GW come out with one this year. Maybe I'll call it a "Pluto Pattern Vulture"?:eyebrows:

Braad
13-03-2008, 11:52
You seem to be very good with plasticard...

Faolan
13-03-2008, 12:28
Hey Tommy, to track back a post or three...

Do you tend to glue together the legs and torso, then paint, or paint each one seperately, and then tack 'em to each other with the glue?

I ask since I'm about to dive into 2 Armoured Fist squads and there's all that body armour, belts, etc.

Tommygun
13-03-2008, 12:46
Hey Tommy, to track back a post or three...

Do you tend to glue together the legs and torso, then paint, or paint each one seperately, and then tack 'em to each other with the glue?

I ask since I'm about to dive into 2 Armoured Fist squads and there's all that body armour, belts, etc.

I try to assemble as much as I can. With the Marines the only thing I leave off is the power backpack and sometimes the bolter. I do this because I spray paint the primer and base color. The backpacks block the spray to much. I don't like to paint then assemble too much, because it means ether scrapping paint off to glue with plastic cement or using super glue which is brittle. Also super gluing over painted parts also causes problems. The glue bond is only as strong as the paint bonding to the model. I have had a number of models come apart as the paint cracks or peels off the model.

Tommygun
15-03-2008, 11:01
I think I'm done with the airframe? I'm not doing any cockpit details. I have some dark green clear plastic I will use for windows, so you can't really see inside. I will make weapons for it and the Thunderbolt this week. All will be mounted with magnets, so they can be changed out. I'm thinking of calling it a Turkey Vulture.:eyebrows: The paint job for it will probable be a three tone green splinter camouflage with a sky blue bottom. It was a bit frustrating at times, but in the end, I still like the ugly bastard. If you can think of anything that would make it better, I will keep an open mind.

codename_greendawn
15-03-2008, 12:14
You can quit worrying Tommygun, your vulture has my approval. I reckon it might be a bit more realistic than the GW one, since it's a military aircraft, where aesthetics are secondary to functionality - so it doesn't matter if it's an ugly bastard! xD Lol, definately looks great!

El Presedente
15-03-2008, 12:20
I must say, I think thats a belter piece of work. Can't wait to see it painted. how did you get the engine at the back to look so good?

Tommygun
15-03-2008, 12:29
I must say, I think thats a belter piece of work. Can't wait to see it painted. how did you get the engine at the back to look so good?

I get a lot of my plasticard (styrene plastic) from a company called Evergreen and Plastruct. They have a lot of precut styrene strips, tubes, and other shapes which helps out and saves time. I used Grandt Line for bolts and guitar wire for hoses.

Tommygun
17-03-2008, 09:17
I have my base colors down. I still have a lot of touching up to do as well as all the detailing and weathering. The engine too. I like how the paint came out. The blue was darker than I originally wanted, but after seeing how it came out, I like it. I'm feeling a lot better about the model now with it partly painted. There was one small disaster when the spray can started spraying half dried globs of goo at the model!:mad: Was able to fix most of the damage.
It should be done by next week.

Tommygun
18-03-2008, 07:42
I started a small project today. Plastic gargoyles. Made the wings out of 0.5mm plasticard and half round plastic rods for the bones structure. I used hormagaunt bodies with termagant arms and a few warrior parts for the head crest. Added a small piece of plastic for the tail spike. I have too many other projects I need to paint right now, so I will not be painting these for a long while. Over spring break I hope to paint the titan and vulture. By the way, I just went to the US GW online store and saw these new ripper swarms. I have never seen them, does anyone know if they are new or reissue?
http://store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.us?do=List_Models&code=306086&orignav=300836&ParentID=259981&GameNav=10
Games Workshop US Online Store

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0391a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0389a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0393a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0395a.jpg

Faolan
18-03-2008, 07:56
Tommy, make me a Vult!

As for the swarm, not sure, it doesn't look much like the FW one.

I'd think that checking the product number vs other numbers could tell you, however.

dblaz3r
18-03-2008, 10:13
Very impressive log you have here. Will be keeping my eye on this for sure!

Ironjens
18-03-2008, 18:14
Ah, those are the real genuine 2ed. ripper swarms. All mouth and no eyes :)

I was also thinking of doing plastic gargoyles (their statline is impressive, the models not so much), but I was thinking of doing it more among the lines of jetpack gargoyles (pictures have been floating arounnd the 'net for a while). Nevertheless your plasticard skills amaze. Keep up the good work!

Captain Brown
19-03-2008, 15:52
Neat conversion work there Tommygun. If you are interested in another template for the Vulture I seem to remember someone on CMoT doing one out of plasticard and foamcard.

CB

Tommygun
24-03-2008, 07:36
I finished painting the Vulture and making the weapons loadout. I decided to scratch build the lascannon and auto cannon. It was cheaper to build them than ordering them as bits. I also used green windows on the cockpit to help hide the fact that I didn't really build an interior. Most of the markings are from 1/48 scale F-16 and F-18 aircraft. Finished base coating my titan with tan paint too. Need to find my air brush to paint the camouflage.

Faolan
24-03-2008, 13:09
I like it.

Only thing I might have done differently was coated the windows with the transparent gold paint, like NASA and some EW birds use for protection of the crew.

Lost Egg
24-03-2008, 14:37
It looks better now its finished but it is a shame about the cockpit. I think I would be tempted to black-out the windows. Looks good though.

HN

Tommygun
27-03-2008, 10:22
Done painting the Thunderbolt! I gave it a paint job loosely based on Italian Fighter planes of WWII. Now the only unfinished project is the titan. I have other real world projects to do, so work on it will be slow. I'm still not sure of what camouflage pattern I will use on the titan. So do you think the paint job looks right on the Thunderbolt?

nedsta
27-03-2008, 12:58
t-bolt's looking awesome mate,colour is good,the build is good,what can i say apart from bravo maestro

Tommygun
27-03-2008, 23:06
Small update on the titan. Finished base coating it with African Mustard color. I did this last week, but didn't get around to photographing it. The head and torso are held on with tape right now. It will be easier to paint in pieces.

Triggerdog
28-03-2008, 00:04
The pin-up noseart on the Thunderbolt is a nice touch

can't_decide
30-03-2008, 22:36
First off I want to say your models are awesome! I just finished a Titan scratch build, but yours has a ton more detail that mine did. I was wondering why you decided to base your macharius off the landraider instead of a complete scratch build. I want to do a macharius, but i'm having trouble figuring out the back end. Do you have any suggestions on that?

Norsehawk
30-03-2008, 23:46
there are some amazing scratch builds and conversions in here. Definitely a thread I have to watch

Tommygun
31-03-2008, 12:33
First off I want to say your models are awesome! I just finished a Titan scratch build, but yours has a ton more detail that mine did. I was wondering why you decided to base your macharius off the landraider instead of a complete scratch build. I want to do a macharius, but i'm having trouble figuring out the back end. Do you have any suggestions on that?

The reason I based it off the landraider was I noticed the side profile of the landraider's tracks, when mounted backwards, are similar the the Macharious. If I had to do it over, I would scratch build the track assembly and save the $40 (US) dollars it cost for a landraider. The back is partly the landraider too. This would not be too hard to scratch build. Use plastic tubes and drill a dozen holes in them for ventilation. Then take plasticard and drill more holes in that and next bend the flat plasticard over the tubes to make a heat shield. When you start to build the back end, break it down into steps in your head. First make the sides look right, then the back hull plate, next the finders to cover the tracks and so on. It is just a series of flat angles. So try and break it down into steps ahead of time. Try not to let the overall structure worry you. Just do one step at a time. Drawing it out also helps.

Roel?
31-03-2008, 14:55
Your work is amazing, man. You definetly have great scratch-building skills :>

Sent you a pm btw. ^^

can't_decide
31-03-2008, 17:32
Thanks for the tip, I really do like how yours turned out though!

Lord Malorne
31-03-2008, 17:35
My god this thread is nothing but pure skil.

Subscribed :D.

synapse
31-03-2008, 17:37
is that betty page on the thunderbolt? nice... lol

love the gargoyles

Tommygun
01-04-2008, 01:01
Thanks for the comments everyone. Synapse, I don't know for sure, but I think it is Betty Page on the Thunderbolt. I bought it as a big decal sheet with a number of women on it from Starship Modeler web site. They have a lot of SciFi scratch building supplies. I used them a lot. Here is a link:
http://www.starshipmodeler.biz/index.cfm?currentpage=11&fuseaction=category.display&category_id=31
Starship Modeler Store: Decals

zealot!
01-04-2008, 02:13
amazing, im subscribed

Tommygun
01-04-2008, 07:52
I got some work on the titan done. The camouflage is down and some of the weathering. I put decals on too. Had to make a spacer between the hip and torso, because the weapon arms were hitting the legs. I still need to pick a legion for it and make banners.

Triggerdog
01-04-2008, 07:56
I like the camo titan. makes it look kinda Metal Gear-ish

nedsta
01-04-2008, 09:11
loving the camo dude just awesome

Codsticker
01-04-2008, 15:49
Lovely camo pattern there, nice work all around. I'm curious as to how you did the recessed hex "bolts" on the leading edge of the Vulture's wings.

Deus Ruinus
01-04-2008, 15:56
wow the camo effects are pretty! NICE JOB!

Tommygun
01-04-2008, 22:50
I'm curious as to how you did the recessed hex "bolts" on the leading edge of the Vulture's wings.

I used a paper hole punch to make round holes in the 1mm thick plasticard. I then glued the plasticard piece down to the wing. Next, I took the round circles that were punched out and cut them to look like hexagons and glued them into the holes.

Faolan
02-04-2008, 03:46
I assume the thought of punching out the spaces and then simply cutting off a bit of evergreen hex was entirely too easy?

Tommygun
02-04-2008, 05:15
I assume the thought of punching out the spaces and then simply cutting off a bit of evergreen hex was entirely too easy?

I don't think evergreen make hex rods, but Plastruct does. The problem thought is the largest size they make is 1/8 inch (3.2mm). The hex on the Vulture are almost twice as big.

Faolan
02-04-2008, 07:29
Good enough reasoning!

If, for the future, you're going to be doing a lot of head heads of a given size, I know there's different sized and shape punches available.

Lost Egg
05-04-2008, 20:48
Whoa that Titan is shaping up nicely!

HN

Tommygun
07-04-2008, 09:52
Mini update. Worked a little on the base today for the Titan. I have my Titan running across the base, with one foot ploughing through a small brick wall. I am trying for the effect of the bricks flying through the air as the foot mashes the wall. The effect, I hope, looks as if a photo was taken as it happened. More photos tomorrow?

Ironjens
07-04-2008, 19:21
Sweet! You've really managed to capture the moment with the flying bricks. It looks awsome, since it looks like it's caught in the action and not just bricks glued together in strands. Three thumbs up!

Tommygun
08-04-2008, 04:15
Here it is, the Titan is done. Still need to finish the base and maybe some banners? My next project maybe a bomber. UKBulldog's log has my mind thinking about it. Also a small project too...Death Korp of Kansas. A few Dough Boys to give the Huns a run for there money.

Tommygun
08-04-2008, 04:17
More Pic of the Titan.

Tommygun
08-04-2008, 04:20
Close up of weapons.

BDJV
08-04-2008, 06:46
Frakin' Awesome!

OP master N
08-04-2008, 10:43
Awsome titan! I'm waiting for some plasticard in order to start my own, but I doubt it will be as good as yours...

Faolan
08-04-2008, 13:40
Like I don't have enough on my desk.. and around it, and under it, etc; but dammit now I feel the urge to pick up the titan project over here.

Damn yous!

Excellent Tommygun, excellent work.

The plans, etc, worked well? Fit better than, say, the aircraft?

Tommygun
08-04-2008, 23:48
The plans, etc, worked well? Fit better than, say, the aircraft?

Faolan, the Titan plans by JSV are well thought out. I found it to be an easy and quick build. The only change I would suggest is a spacer between the hip and the torso. There was a problem with the weapon arms rubbing on the tops of the legs. I made the spacer 9/16inch(15mm) thick, but the thickness will very depending on how you attach the arms. I also wanted the torso to rotate like a tank turret, to give it a better firing arc. It does not have enough clearance in the original plans to do this. You can see the spacer in these two pictures. It is the black and silver disc.

P.S. Does anyone know if the rules for the Warhound state anything on their firing arcs of it's weapons? Or if it's torso does rotate?

Tommygun
19-04-2008, 07:11
I finished the base. Not as dramatic as I originally had planed, but I'm pleased with it.

Tommygun
19-04-2008, 07:13
Big scary laser

Slaaaaaanesh
19-04-2008, 11:30
Great stuff Tommygun! I like the base, especially the no parking sign, although perhaps you could add a few peices of recognizable 40k bits to it.

That Titan red dot lazer sight if a nice touch.

Tommygun
21-04-2008, 14:59
perhaps you could add a few peices of recognizable 40k bits to it.


That's a good idea, I was thinking it looked a little bear. I see what bits I have around. Thanks.

Faolan
23-04-2008, 06:29
Lighten up the asphalt a bit, then oil drizzle it some. Chuck in a crushed servo skull, maybe an abandoned bolter or the like, that sorta thing.

Col. Wales
24-04-2008, 19:38
a wrecked bike would also work.

Shonuff
24-04-2008, 20:56
Question for ya, on the tank:

How did you do the rivets? did they come off sheets? or were they from something else?

Tommygun
25-04-2008, 09:07
Shonuff, the rivets and bolts are from Grandtline. O scale works the best. You can find them here:
http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?manu=300&split=30
www.walthers.com -- search page

or here

http://www.barrule.com/workshop/scratch%20builders%20paradise/Augmentables.html
Augmentabls for wargames, dioramas, scratch building, scenic modeling,s cale modeline

Also thanks to everyone for suggestions on the base. I'm going to use some Tamyia weathering powders on the asphalt and some miscellaneous parts for debris.

Tommygun
03-05-2008, 00:55
I have started a Marauder Destroyer two days ago. The fuselage is mostly done. I was not sure how big I wanted it to be, so I took a look at the Imperial Armor Measurements. It states the length as 19.2 meters by wingspan of 24.6 meters. This caused me to notice, if you measure the fuselage from nose to tail, not counting the guns that stick out, the aircraft is almost exactly as long as the wings are wide. So the measurements in IA 1 have to be wrong. So I used the 24.6 meter wingspan as a stating point. 24.6 meters converted to 1/56 scale equals 439mm or 17.3 inch wingspan. Most models made by GW or Forge World are usually 15 to 30% smaller or more than what is stated in their books. So I decided on a 13 inch wingspan for mine and photo copied the drawings from my book so they would measure out to this size. This will allow me to make measurements right off the paper without having to scale them each time.

As a side note: after I started my Marauder I found that the Forge World site list their wingspan as 18 inches. That is surprising, in that they are usually smaller.

Tommygun
03-05-2008, 00:56
More views

Lost Egg
03-05-2008, 10:14
Looking good so far Tommygun...you must be amassing quite a collection of big-ass vehicles now!

HN

Faolan
03-05-2008, 18:06
Nice Tommy, nice!

I'm cheating with mine, as you noticed from my thread, but yours look mighty fine.

OP master N
03-05-2008, 18:07
Nice lines on that flyer...

What thickness of plasticard do you use?

Tommygun
04-05-2008, 00:54
Thanks everyone, I hope to have wings started today and more photos in a few days.



What thickness of plasticard do you use?


I use 1mm thick card on almost everything I build with 2mm, 0.5mm and 0.25mm card in some areas as needed. The 0.5mm and 0.25mm stuff is usually used for bending around objects and making curves. I will be using 2mm card as the main part of the wing.

I made a web order with Squadron Mail order for some ejection seats and various bombs and missiles for this aircraft. Hope to have it by Tuesday.

Tommygun
06-05-2008, 00:12
Christmas came early! Not a true update, but I'm excited about this. I just receive half my $600 order from forge World, five days after I ordered it! I used my $600 dollar tax stimulus check for it. Unfortunately I stimulated Britain economy with it instead of the US.;) Mostly future Death Korps projects. I'm planning on building a tank squadron mostly from plasticard and a few Death Korps tank parts.

Tommygun
06-05-2008, 11:35
The wings are on now. I also have the nose together too. Still waiting on the seats for the cockpit. Tomorrow I should have the dorsal turret and rear turret done.

Tommygun
06-05-2008, 11:36
Three more photos

Faolan
06-05-2008, 14:06
Tommygun,

I know who's getting free drinks next time I'm in California!

OP master N
08-05-2008, 21:15
Thanks everyone, I hope to have wings started today and more photos in a few days.




I use 1mm thick card on almost everything I build with 2mm, 0.5mm and 0.25mm card in some areas as needed. The 0.5mm and 0.25mm stuff is usually used for bending around objects and making curves. I will be using 2mm card as the main part of the wing.

I made a web order with Squadron Mail order for some ejection seats and various bombs and missiles for this aircraft. Hope to have it by Tuesday.

How do you cut the card?

Tommygun
09-05-2008, 10:50
How do you cut the card?

Master N, I prefer to use a box cutter tool to cut the card and a metal ruler. You don't have to cut all the way through it, you just score a line half way through the plastic and then bend it to snap the piece off. You don't need to press very hard as long as you keep sharp blades in it. This will keep your hands from getting tired when you are cutting for several hours. Don't use scissors or shears, it takes too long and they will get dull. You can't get accurate cuts or smooth straight cuts ether. I would also suggest getting a small cutting mat too. Another really great tool is a circle cutter. I bought one for $6 dollars (US).

Hellebore
09-05-2008, 11:18
By box cutter do you mean an ordinary cutting blade? Do you use a metal ruler as well?

I've always had trouble cutting straight plasticard even with an exacto knife and a straight edge.

Hellebore

Tommygun
10-05-2008, 03:49
By box cutter do you mean an ordinary cutting blade? Do you use a metal ruler as well?

I've always had trouble cutting straight plasticard even with an exacto knife and a straight edge.

Hellebore

Hellebore, Yes I always use a metal ruler. I forgot to put that in my post, I will go back and edit it, thanks. Use the metal ruler with a light first score line. Using light pressure gives you more control over the line. Then go back and let the cutting blade fall into the small valley created by the first scoring and re-score it again. You may have to re-score the line 2 or 3 times with 1mm card. It goes faster than it may sound. If you find your fingers or hands are getting tired, then you are pressing too hard. I use the box cutters with break away blades (9mm size). The 9mm blades are very common and cheap. Be very careful when breaking them off, they sometimes shatter and send pieces flying (think flying razor blades!). I press the dull blade against the cutting mat, while holding the palm of my other hand over the blade area to block any flying pieces. If you are not comfortable breaking the blades, they are cheap enough to just replace the whole blade.

Lost Egg
10-05-2008, 10:38
Be very careful when breaking them off, they sometimes shatter and send pieces flying (think flying razor blades!). I press the dull blade against the cutting mat, while holding the palm of my other hand over the blade area to block any flying pieces. If you are not comfortable breaking the blades, they are cheap enough to just replace the whole blade.

I bought one once which came with a pack of spare blades. The pack also had a special bit you push the dull blade into then turn the knife sides ways and it snaps it off without bits flying everywhere.

Now I just use wire cutters to grip the blade on the weak join between blades, throw an old flannel over the top and snap...dull blade gone with no flying bits as they're caught in the flannel.

HN

Tommygun
11-05-2008, 11:21
Hairy, I have used pliers too and it works pretty good. Never thought of using an old piece of cloth. That is a good idea and I also wear glasses, which helps protect the eyes.
I have gotten more work done. The main areas to still do are the engines and cockpit. The ejection seats I ordered turned out to be too tall, so I made my own. Hope to be done in a week or so. There is also a lot of detail work to do like drilling holes to look like recess rivets etc...

Tommygun
11-05-2008, 11:23
Smaller pieces.

Ironjens
11-05-2008, 12:04
Tommygun there is no reason at all to believe that it will look anything other than absolutely stunning when you're finished. I bow down deeply to your plasticard skills.

On another note, how come you started making plasticard vehicles? Was it the forgeworld pricing or is it the pride in making everything scratchbuilt? My own excercise (a card crusader (http://warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2423218&postcount=20)) definitely proved to me that the time it takes to make something greatly exceeds the money saved so that unless I'm un-employed with loads of time on my hands I won't be doing it again. Of course, ork vehicles are a totally different question, since there aren't any, also with orks rough detailing is ok cutting down on building time (such as this little beauty (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3153/2459879819_0d3046f758_o.jpg)).

Anyway, keep up the good work, you're an inspiration for us all.

cheers

OP master N
11-05-2008, 13:11
I'm stunned by your plasticard weapons, great work. What is the red/brown stuff on the turret?

Azmodai

Faolan
11-05-2008, 15:40
Which ejection seats did you order that weren't quite the right size, and how much were they off by?

Inquisitive minds with Squadron access want to know!

can't_decide
11-05-2008, 15:57
I am completely jealous of that marauder! I wish I had more time to work on my scratch builds, and now too I want to make a marauder for some bombing runs before my tanks roll in.

OP master N
11-05-2008, 20:13
I'm beginning to see the end of my titan project, may be in need of some CAS...

Tommygun
12-05-2008, 05:53
--Ironjens, I like making things with my hands. It ranges from scratch built wooden ship and plasticard models to gun smithing. I need to keep my hands busy. I am also pretty fast at building. I spent may be 60 hours on my Titan and saved 300 British Pounds, while having fun doing it. So having fun while saving money is a double plus.

--OP Master N, the red stuff is auto body putty, Bondo brand name. I assemble the models quickly and don't worry too much about a perfect fit. I go back later and fill in the gaps. After painting, you can't tell.

--Faolan, I ordered 1/48 scale Mk 7 F-4 Phantom seats and they are about 28mm tall. About 5mm too big. I think I'm going to still use them. I need to cut the cockpit floor out and lower it 5mm. It is just a pain to do it now. By the way CNC cheater, you should have a dozen or more vehicles to post by now. Where are they? Speaking of cheating, I found this machine that can cut out templates! It prints and cuts at the same time. It's $300 in the US. I don't think I can get enough use out of it to spend that much. The attached file is a brochure

--Can't Decide, history has shown that combined arms is always a good choice.

Faolan
12-05-2008, 07:31
I sent them off to be prototyped, Tommy, since I don't have my machine yet. Specifically 3 sets - the universal parts set (front end, suspension, bed and accessories), the IFV parts (no more stinking Chimeras for Faolan!) and the rocket parts (no more Basilisks, either!).

Tommy, I think you might get enough out of it to justify it, although I'd more look towards all the toys that Rolanddga has to offer.

Actually, on second thought, hence the editting, I don't think it'd work for our template needs. It won't cut thick enough paper/card/etc to be truly useful.

Now if you find a decal printer for that rate...

OP master N
12-05-2008, 08:00
Is this auto body putty better and cheaper than Green Stuff, for this kinda work?

Combined arms is a force multiplier...

Faolan
12-05-2008, 08:42
It's fairly cheap per volume, and pretty strong.

Depends on the "Green stuff" you mean- the 2 part GS for sculpting that can be used as a gap filler too, or the "green stuff" that's filler/putty and comes out of a tube, like Squadron/MDM offer?

Tommygun
12-05-2008, 09:25
Yes the Bondo is better at filling gaps and cheaper. The only draw back is that it is brittle when dry. You can't use it in areas where the plastic will flex. The two part Green Stuff is good for sculpting, but has a tendency to fall out of small gaps. I think that is because there is not enough bonding surface for the Green Stuff to hold on to. Since we are talking about it. "Green Stuff" is made by Polymeric Systems Inc. for GW. It is called "Kneadatite Blue/Yellow" epoxy putty and if you buy it online or hardware store it is several times cheaper by volume. I bought a 3.5 oz (100g) package for $13 (US).

Titan Wolfe
12-05-2008, 16:06
some awesome stuff my friend .......must have some spare time and patience........or be very good and quick ........very impressed.

Faolan
12-05-2008, 17:28
That man has an ability I envy- to cut a straight line with a straight edge. Hell, even using the end of the straight edge I'm hard pressed to get a 90 degree angle.

Grrr @ you, T.G.

Oh yeah, when are you going to have the thread name changed to "TommyguN's Backwater Forgeworld" from the current "Tommygum's Backwater Forgeworld" (note the M, Mister Gum).

Tommygun
13-05-2008, 00:33
Oh yeah, when are you going to have the thread name changed to "TommyguN's Backwater Forgeworld" from the current "Tommygum's Backwater Forgeworld" (note the M, Mister Gum).

I know, it bugs me too, but i don't know how to do it. Do you have to ask a mod?

Faolan
13-05-2008, 04:13
Yeah, just PM one of the mods, admit that you're slightly stupid, and they should fix it for you.

At least, I cop to slightly stupid and they're very understanding.

t-tauri
13-05-2008, 09:07
Title changed. ;)

Tommygun
13-05-2008, 10:40
My confused mind thanks you.:)

Tommygun
19-05-2008, 03:23
Getting close to finishing. I'm happy with how it came out. I did have trouble with the fan blades. They are a bit crooked. I used 1mm plasticard for the blades, which is too thick, instead of 0.5mm card. I was going to make the nose and tail removable so I could turn it into a Marauder Bomber with magnets, but at the last minute decided not to. I wish I had now. Oh well. Thinking of using this WWII bomber as the bases of how I want the Marauder painted. It was used in the Pacific as an anti-ship attack plane. It's a parrot head and I think each plane in the squadron had a different colored parrot head. Still need flaps and a few other details.

Tommygun
19-05-2008, 03:25
Five more views.

Faolan
19-05-2008, 03:50
Hrm..

Not a fan of the parrot myself, but I can see it looking good, especially if you painted the rest of the bird something like Gull Grey, with slightly darker numerical markings, etc.

"Low Vis + Noseart", which from a tactical point makes no sense, but shows off the colours very well and would fit in perfectly with the Guard's idea of operating.

Now maybe 4 Lightnings to go with it...

Which since I didn't like the templates for, I'm going to try to redesign them a bit and make them more idiot-friendly, so maybe even I could use it.

*Edit*

Hrm, was browsing IA2 earlier, and yeah, I think you might have erred a bit small, since the bloody thing is nearly as long as a T'Hawk, and THAT model is 19" long, which would bring the Marauder to about 18.

Tommygun
19-05-2008, 04:40
Hrm..

Not a fan of the parrot myself, but I can see it looking good, especially if you painted the rest of the bird something like Gull Grey, with slightly darker numerical markings, etc.

"Low Vis + Noseart", which from a tactical point makes no sense, but shows off the colours very well and would fit in perfectly with the Guard's idea of operating.

Now maybe 4 Lightnings to go with it...

Which since I didn't like the templates for, I'm going to try to redesign them a bit and make them more idiot-friendly, so maybe even I could use it.

*Edit*

Hrm, was browsing IA2 earlier, and yeah, I think you might have erred a bit small, since the bloody thing is nearly as long as a T'Hawk, and THAT model is 19" long, which would bring the Marauder to about 18.


Yes the Forge World one has a 18 inch wing span, but my Thunder Bolt is also small, so they look right together. I'm making two more Thunder bolts, one red and made to look like the Red Baron. The other painted tan like my first Thunder Bolt, but with a small Snoopy as nose art. But those are far off projects. I have not made my final decision on the parrot nose yet. The nose on the Marauder is not as smooth as the B-25, so it my not come off right. I will also be putting on black and white invasion strips. I think I am going to put painting off for a while, I need more time to think about it. My next Project is a big ork Blasta Bomber in 40k scale. It is close to the Marauder in size. My Marauder is 13.5 inches long by 13.5 wide, so I think I will make the Blasta Bomber about 15 inches long by 18 wide, so they will be in scale to each other.

Tommygun
21-05-2008, 11:39
Started working on the Blasta Bomber. I enlarged several photo copies of it to full 40k scale. This makes it much easier to make measurements off of it. there are several curved areas that I can simply trace straight onto the plasticard with this method. I do this by taping the photocopy down to the plasticard and using a sharp nail, I push holes through the photocopy and into the plasticard.
I will be using a modified technique that wooden ship modelers use, called bulkhead and planking construction. The last two photos show the start of the bulkhead. The bulkhead will give the basic shape. After it is done I will start laying down pieces of plasticard over the bulkhead and bending the card over curved areas. Some areas may need to be "double planked" , that is two layers. The first layer will help define the shape and the second layer is for show.

codename_greendawn
21-05-2008, 22:05
Sounds like you're making a bloody challenge for yourself this time! Might I suggest expanding foam to fill the empty spaces between your bulkheads? This would have the advantage of providing extra stiffness and support, and also can be sanded down to the contours you want for the body shape (see my log for example). I'm toying with the idea of applying fibreglass over the foam to make the outer shell nice and strong, but I think even paper mache would work just as well.

Elanthanis
22-05-2008, 03:29
Absolutely brilliant work. Great job!

Shadowphrakt
22-05-2008, 13:26
You know, I wasn't 100% convinced by this log at the start, but this has thrown me. Well done sir!

OP master N
22-05-2008, 17:09
You're inspiring me!
Your warhound convinced me to build my warhound, and I'm seriously considering to build a flyer..

Great work man!

Azmo

Tommygun
24-05-2008, 10:19
Here is how far I have gotten in the last two days. The bulkhead is 95% done. Almost none of the bulkhead will be seen when the model is done, so I used a number of scrap pieces when building it. You may see a few oddly cut or shape pieces in the photos. You may also see in two areas I cut round holes in the bulkheads, these areas will be where the hull plating has fallen off the bomber and exposing the frame.
Greendawn, foam is a good idea, but I don't think it will be necessary for this model. Most of my bends are along just one plane, there are only a few small bends that have compound bends. I have used double planking on wooden ship models before to achieve complex shapes, so I believe I can make it work in plastic. There is always Bondo to cover up my mistakes.:D I could never do that on unpainted wood.
Thanks everyone, Bye for now, Tom.

Tommygun
24-05-2008, 10:20
Four More.

Tommygun
31-05-2008, 11:07
Here you can see how I have started to skin the bulkhead. I laid down 0.5mm plasticard on every other spacing on the bulkhead in the first four photos. After that, I went back and filled in the other half in the rest of the photographs. This method, I hope, will create the look of old fashion hull plating you see on old ships. It took longer than I had planed. Because they are bent around a curved surface. I had to clamp each of the hull plates for several hours before I could move on to another section. I have only 4 large clamps to do this with. I decided to make the engines really big, because it is an ork machine and bigger is always better and more fasta!

I'm still not sure what rules to use for it. I'm thinking I can use modified Marauder Destroyer rules and point values. Areonautica Imperialis states that the Blasta Bomber can also carry troops with a decreased bomb load. I don't have the book so I don't know the specifics. I would like to know, if anyone has the book, how many they carry and do they land and jump out or do they fly off like storm boyz?

Tommygun
31-05-2008, 11:09
more pictures of plane

Tommygun
31-05-2008, 11:10
More stuff

OP master N
31-05-2008, 12:40
You are an artist with plasticard!
That Bomber looks great!!!

Azmo

Slaaaaaanesh
31-05-2008, 16:01
Tommygun, you make bending plasticard and generally building anything look simple and very effective!

Tommygun
14-06-2008, 07:38
I have been away visiting relatives, so I didn't get as much done as I would have liked. Added details to the wings and engines. I don't know why a super charger and exhaust pipes make a jet motor go faster, but hay, it's an Ork vehicle. It makes it cool looking, so it must be faster. I will be adding a lot of hand made rivets to the main hull. Also need to add windows to the lower sides, so I can place guns there as well as a mess of guns and missiles in the nose. Maybe a few grot bombs under the wings too? I started building the tail gun tonight. God this thing has a huge number of guns on it! I'll be making gun barrels for a week. I have a box of unassembled Orks and Goblins/Grots for the crew. Planning on having a few hapless Grots hang for dear life off of various parts of the bomber. I still need to come up with rules for it too. Any ideas to make it better or for rules for it are very welcome.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0607a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0608a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0609a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0610a.jpg

Tommygun
14-06-2008, 07:39
Four more veiws

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0611a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0612a.jpg

Lost Egg
14-06-2008, 10:42
Impressive as always!

HN

Faolan
14-06-2008, 12:30
Loving the Spandau's!

Tommygun
14-06-2008, 12:38
Odd that you just said that Faolan, I just found a web site that sales Cad files for making Spandau Machine guns! Now if I just knew someone with a CNC machine? :evilgrin:

Edit: Dam, just rechecked it. They are made out of wood. Oh well you can still scare your neighbors with it.

Mewy
14-06-2008, 14:36
I'm going to have a go at the rules for this thing, it looks so cool! (I'm guessing the weapons judging by the model pictures)


Ork Blasta Bommer Points: 350(?)
Structure Points: 2
Armour
BS Front Side Rear
2 11 11 10

Weapons and Equipment:

1 hull-mounted supa-zappa
4 hull-mounted twin-linked 'eavy shootas with anti aircraft mounts,
1 turret-mounted twin-linked 'eavy shoota with anti-aircraft mount
1 payload of bomms
and either 4 supa-rokkits or 4burna bomms


Weapon
Supa Zappa Range S X AP 2 Special - Inferno, Random Strength
'Eavy Shoota Range - 48" S6 AP 4 Special - Assault 2
Supa-Rokkit Range - Unlimited S8 AP 3 Special - Heavy 1, one-shot
Bomms Range - Bomb S6 AP 4 Special - Apocalyptic Barrage (8), one shot
Burna Bomm Range - Hellstorm S5 AP 4 Special - Inferno, One-Shot

Special Rules
Supa Zappa: This gun has unpredictable power but is still supa-mega-awesome mk2! Roll 2D6 and consult the chart for the weapons strength.
2 - Phut! The gun fails to sustain its charge and doesn't fire this turn!
3-8 - The gun fires normally and is S8
9-11 - The gun gains 2 strength and -1 AP
12 - It's Supa-F-Ektiv! The gun gains 2 strength, -1 AP and has the Destroyer ability.
Turbo Chargers: Roll a D6 after you enter the table from the table edge, but BEFORE your opponent starts his shooting phase. If you roll a 1 or 2, the turbo chargers fail and cause the engines to put at 50% speed. Shooting against the Blasta Bomma without an anti aircraft mount is at best 5+ instead of the usual 6s. If you roll a 5 or 6 the Blasta Bomma screams across the sky as it delivers it's payload. It moves to fast you can only shoot at it with an anti-aircraft mount, and only on 6s.

Points cost is a rough guess, and it needs something else for its cost. I was thinking about the big zap gun but I'm not too sure.

Tommygun
15-06-2008, 00:19
Mewy, thanks for the rules. Here are the weapons I know I will mount and the ones you suggested.

Re-edited list:

All Big Shootas have anti-aircraft mounts.

In the Nose:
1 Supa Zappa Gun (Special rules apply)
1 Kannon(shells only no frags)
3 twin-linked Big Shootas
8 Supa-Rokkits (Up to 8 Supa-Rockits; 10 points each)

Right side: 3 open windows under the wing.
3 twin-linked Big Shootas

Left side: 3 open windows under the wing.
3 twin-linked Big Shootas.

Top dorsal: 1 twin-linked Big Shoota

Tail: 1 twin-linked Big shoota

Can carry either 4 Bomms or 4 burna bomms (+ 10 points each for ether) or 12 troops.
Areonautica Imperialis says something about it carrying troops.
I thinking about Stormboyz flying right out of it!

I was also thinking about some insane Ork weapon like a harpoon launcher.
You can aim it at a company captain or squad leaders.
On a roll of 6 you catch him and reel him in like a fish.
On 3-5 you miss.
On 1-2 you harpoon the ground and are stuck flying in a circle for the
rest of the game with a + 1 to hit the bomber and bomber can only attack
one target per turn. Pilot can choose to fly away and break the steel
cable, but will lose one structure point.

Super Charger Rules as above.

BS Armor Front Side Rear
2 11 11 10

The Marauder destroyer is 425 points and has 3 Structure points,
so I think they are about the same size and abilities?

OP master N
15-06-2008, 09:12
Damn, I wish I could build like you...
And as fast...

azmo

Faolan
15-06-2008, 13:21
Tommy:

Get me good pictures and maybe some measurements, and I'll see what I can do in general :D

Ironjens
15-06-2008, 19:45
That is one sweet looking Bommer. It makes me want to take my own feeble ork bommas and hide them away in a closet. Awsome!

Rulewise I think it is a good idea to use the Marauder as a template to base your rules on. Just remember that when it's a super-heavy flyer it can shoot all its weapons at different targets making it way more efficient and therefore garnering a higher points-value. For example the kannon, supa zappa gun and supa rokkits (are they grot guided) can all let loose on different armoured targets in the first round while at the same time the entire range of big shootas can let loose a hail of bullets on infantry as well as letting loose a quite enormous payload in the form of bomms/burna bomms.

OK the total wipeout factor is a bit balanced by the fact that the supa zappa is quite often a cannon shot and all guns are BS2 but still the big shootas are twinlinked. As it looks its an infantrykilling murderhouse.

I would say put it at 380 points but give it two structure points for that cost and you're all set to go.

I totally love the harpoon idea!

Tommygun
16-06-2008, 06:54
Ironjens, I had to look it up, but yes, the Supa Rokkits are Grot guided and hit on 2+. Range: unlimited, Str 8, Ap 3 . So I guess I should charge 10 points for each one. I really want to give the bomber 3 structure points, other wise it is too dangerous to try and use the harpoon launcher. I was thinking by charging 425, it would pay for the extra point for the structure?

Faolan
16-06-2008, 08:44
I'd say 430 and tack on two grots, one under each wing, with pistols. Just for.. cool factor.

Duckdude
16-06-2008, 11:50
The harpoon launcher sounds like an awsome idea, even thought it in sometimes would be to powerfull when it hits, like when it pulls that awsom 500pts space marine leader of the table for an instant kill. Or when it pulls in a necron nightbringer. Other then that it is all good.

Also go for 425pts for this, on paper it looks alot better then the marauder because of all the weapons, but with a bs2 i would say it is about the same.

Keep up the good work

Duckdude

Ironjens
16-06-2008, 22:23
I would think that 425 points sets it just right with 3 structure points, but still you have to playtest it to really get a feel for it.

Maybe you should even go a bit higher. Admittedly you'll probably only get one round of shooting out of it (after that round it will be a priority target for sure), since Apocalypse in general is just soo deadly, but we're still looking at 33 twinlinked big shoota shots... I'm no math-hammer dude, but I'd say that'd put down a tactical squad at least, even if they get to save, or a couple of IG squads (but being sneaky you just shoot away 30% of each squad...).

But as I said I think you're in the right area and now only playtesting can tell. I am really looking forward to the completion of this beast :D

Tommygun
17-06-2008, 02:48
I post the rules I have for the blasta bomber in the Rules Development Forum.
From what was said there and here I'm looking at these changes.

I guess all 11 big shoota with anti-air is too much. I can make the big shootas on the left and right side without anti-air.
That's still 5 for self defense against aircraft.

I may also change the harpoon launcher to 2D6:
2-3 harpoon the ground (same rules as above);
4-10 miss;
11 Gretchin operator fires harpoon at random ork boy he has a grudge against(ork player chooses one ork boy model to remove);
12 catch target.
The harpoon is meant to be more humorous than useful.
Duckdude has a good point about it hitting a super character. I will limit it to models with 2 wounds or less, no saves,
but independent characters(if they have 2 or less wounds) will get all there normal saves.

Tommygun
21-06-2008, 04:11
Orkimedes and "Phatt Boy"

They are not meant to be used as game pieces, just having fun.
What ork doesn't look good in a lab coat and a monocle?

Tommygun
21-06-2008, 04:52
Here are a few pictures of the crew (Gunner, Angry Pilot, Bombardier )and some of the sub-assembles. The 4th picture is of the supa rockett and 5th picture is of the big shootas that go on the sides of the plane(note the water cooled Maxim machine guns). The last three days it's been 100F/38C by 8 AM in the morning and peaks out at around 110F/44C! It is supposed to last two more days. So I don't feel like doing a lot of work on the plane. If this is global warming, I going to move to Canada. After the heat wave I'll go back to work on it.

Faolan
21-06-2008, 06:14
Pffft, you're in a state where even the homeless have air conditioners.

It's looking pretty good. I might consider using Grotbombs for the Supa Rokkitz though.

Tommygun
21-06-2008, 06:30
Pffft, you're in a state where even the homeless have air conditioners.

It's looking pretty good. I might consider using Grotbombs for the Supa Rokkitz though.

I have a problem. I put the rockets in the nose before I found out they were grot guided. The grot guided rockets, as usually shown, are too big. I'm going to put a small clear dome on the nose of the rockets like the Maverick missiles have. Though instead of a heat seeker in will be a window for the grot pilot.

For the record, air conditioners don't work well when you live in an all metal mobile home where the walls are only 8 cm thick.:cries:

Faolan
21-06-2008, 12:31
What about wing-mounting the Supa Rokkitz?

Tommygun
24-06-2008, 07:43
Faolan, I'm afraid it is too late to change the position of the rockets now. I like the way they look, but they may be a little too high tech looking for orks? I will add more green stuff for flames and smoke too. There will be a lot more cables and wires hanging off the plane, as well as, a pair of ram jets in the back and flaps. A few grots too.

Tommygun
24-06-2008, 07:46
It is hard to see, but the bombardier is pushing out the bombs manually. This is were the harpoon launcher will be placed later.
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0616a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0646a.jpg

CAL001
24-06-2008, 07:54
Tommy,

Mate you scare me with the level of modeling skills you constantly display in this thread. You truely are a master of the art mate. I really enjoy looking at these threads and I am constantly amazed at what people come up with.

Cheers mate, and thanks for enspiring me again
Aaron

bugbait_nz
24-06-2008, 08:08
IMPRESSIVE! Dat is one cool boma, are you going to have it on a flying base?

Bugbait out

can't_decide
25-06-2008, 03:40
I have to say, that bomber is amazing! I really wish I could get some work done on my builds, but that will have to wait. Again though you are amazing!

Tommygun
26-06-2008, 03:13
Bugbait, yes it will have a flying stand. It will be flying just over a tall smoke stack. Think paint crapping the bottom. If I ever get back to building my other two Thunderbolts, they will be mounted just above trees. "Coming in at tree top level!"

"Can't_decide" I hope you find time to finish that Marcharius tank. It is already much better than mine is.

OK so here it is. I'm done building and I'm happy with how it came out. Though I forgot to make the harpoon launcher. Oops! I can do that later. Right now I have started painting it. I'll try to have some early painting pictures tomorrow.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0637a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0638a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0642a.jpg

Tommygun
26-06-2008, 03:16
7 more views. Note the rear ramp does open and close.
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0647a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0648a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0650a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0653a.jpg

MF3000
26-06-2008, 04:12
Oh my lawwwwd... that is something amazing... you should have Grot HALO jumpers... lol, cos they make lots of damage when they're strapped with some of the bombs.

sj

Duckdude
26-06-2008, 12:08
this must be the biggest model i have ever seen :eek:
It looks fantastic, cant wait to see it painted.....im sure it will take more paint then all of my army together :eek:

G.Hawke
26-06-2008, 12:22
very nice work tommy, most impressive

hawke

The Inquisitor
26-06-2008, 16:58
Amazing! You inspire me to model, which is not a mean statement- I'd much rather paint!

I love the bombs tumbling out the back... *******' great.

BTW- not that I could offer much of a suggestion, but more of a question: why don't you case some of the smaller pieces in resin, such as the big shootas, etc.- so you could maximize the use of some of those cool designs, and use them on other models if needed?

Thanks for showing how you do you build ups!

Shadowphrakt
26-06-2008, 17:03
That looks amazing Tommygun! Am anticipating the next update.

Bigbot
26-06-2008, 23:57
Holy crap that's awesome

Tommygun
26-06-2008, 23:59
Thanks everyone, it's nice to hear what people think.

Inquisitor, I bought a casting set two years ago, but I have not found anything I wanted to cast. I'm pretty fast with plastic and I can make things like shootas and rockets faster than with resin. There is a lot of prep work, drying times and clean up with casting.

These pictures are very early paint work. I have primed the body black and then sprayed a base color of terra cotta red on the front with terra cotta orange at the back.
The red areas I will paint over with 3 different shades of red. Then that area will be heavily weathered and rusted.
The terra cotta orange is very close to a rust color. That area will not get painted, but have several types of washes and Mig powders added to it. I will also be using rust powder made from real rust.
This will be a Goff vehicle, so I need to add some black into the red areas and maybe paint some faded black on the rusted orange in the back of the plane. After all that there will be a lot of detail work.

Lepp
27-06-2008, 00:36
ooooooohhhhh, I can't wait! this is a greatly orky looking flyer, good work.

The Inquisitor
27-06-2008, 16:22
ah, I see. Yea, if you can build them quickly, why do it? Looks great!

Again, your work is an inspiration to me.

I see your avatar has changed; awaiting this game I see?

Tommygun
29-06-2008, 00:01
I see your avatar has changed; awaiting this game I see?

Same avatar, but I have been waiting for this game for 10 years!

A progress update:
a) Finished Orkimedes and Phatt Boy. You always cut the blue wire.....Right?
b) Built the Grot crew. I like how the six shooter came out. I even drilled out 6 holes in the cylinder.
c) Painted the sub assembles and main crew.
d) Started on flying base for the plane.

After I finished Phatt Boy, I thought about adding an ork riding on top and wearing a cowboy hat, like Dr. strange Love.

The Inquisitor
29-06-2008, 00:13
Looks really great

GTW- where do you get your supplies from? What tools do you use regularly when you build?

Tommygun
29-06-2008, 07:47
Looks really great

GTW- where do you get your supplies from? What tools do you use regularly when you build?

I order my Evergreen plasticard and other miscellaneous items from Walters.com.
http://www.walthers.com/

I also order direct from Plastruct.
http://www.plastruct.com/

Tools: metal rulers, metal triangles, metal squares, Box cutters, cutting mats, circle cutter(best tool ever invented and only $6 dollars), pin vise drill, adjustable protector, scientific calculator, photo copier.

Tommygun
01-07-2008, 04:14
So I'm 60% done with the painting. I figured out a way to add the black, while still keeping the look of a flying rust bucket. I painted black over the rust area, but left much of the rust exposed. There will be a lot of rust and black washes over the whole plane to come.
I finally made the harpoon launcher. There was not enough room in the back of the bomber, so I mounted outside on the tail. It folds flat up on the bottom of the tail, when not being used. When used, it will swing down, so the crew in the back can firer it at the enemies.
Painted the grot crew and test placed them to see if they fit. A lot more painting to do on it, but so far I am pleased with it.

Faolan: "I'd say 430 and tack on two grots, one under each wing, with pistols. Just for.. cool factor."

OK Faolan, the grot with the six shooter is for you, I just need to figure out what colors are in your cilt so I can finish painting him?

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0680Brightena.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0686Brightena.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0683Normala.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0676Normala.jpg

OP master N
01-07-2008, 05:18
You're my Astronomican....
Builds fast, paints fast, and both to an incradable standard

Azmo

Havock
01-07-2008, 12:02
Holy ****.

great job!

Jos
01-07-2008, 12:16
how do you ,manage to get perfect round shapes, say the engines above?

Faolan
01-07-2008, 12:25
Alright Tommygun.. only because you asked for it, and I think you have spelling issues..

Thats blue, green, then bits of red and white.

Helpful mate?

PS: It's "kilt". With a "k".

Tommygun
03-07-2008, 08:09
how do you ,manage to get perfect round shapes, say the engines above?

First I use a circle template. It is like a drawing compass, but with a razor blade. You can easily cut circles with it and they are very inexpensive. I then use an old wood ship modeling technique called bulkhead construction with the circles I just cut out. This lets you create the basic shape. After that you bend wood or in this case plasticard over the bulkhead to finish it off. Hope that helps, Tommygun.

Tommygun
03-07-2008, 08:29
Flying base is now done. I kept it simple, because I did not want the flying base getting in the way of new true line of sight rules. The terminators on the base are just for scale.

Faolan, I'm afraid your "Kilt" is more symbolic than realistic. The kilt is only 4mm long and I can only paint so small. The white really overwhelmed it. I did paint the little claymore? sword at the lower left and made a little "man bag" in front. I did give him a good gangsta pose. I am really happy with how the gun came out and it painted up well. It is a little large, even for a grot, but he may be compensating.

Two more pictures of the pilot and gunner. The first ones were too blurry.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0787a.jpg

Eater of Small Things
03-07-2008, 10:05
Ha ha! I love that grot's gun and the turret big shoota. The base turned out nice, too. Keeping it uncluttered was a good decision, since there's already a lot of dioramic detail already on the plane itself.

(nice paintjob on the chaplain and librarian, too)

ShadRS
03-07-2008, 13:08
I really like the base. A lot of the ones I've seen don't really make sense with the vertical structures they have on them, but that cooling tower (smoke stack, whatever) is really nice.

El Presedente
03-07-2008, 13:23
I thought that chimny was Nelsons Collumn for a sec, good stuff.

Faolan
03-07-2008, 14:58
I agree the white's a bit strong, the only way to 'scale' it, and even then its not "Scale" would be to use the very tip of a 20/0 liner, or just a hair for white.

Regardless, that came out pretty great. I wholeheartedly approve!

Tommygun
04-07-2008, 00:04
The dull coat just dried on the paint and here are the first pictures. The front was base coated dark red and dry brushed with three different shades of red. The rear was based with terra cotta orange with black over parts of it, as well as, real rust powders over the orange. I washed over most of the plane with black, brown and rust brown ink washes. I used both water and alcohol based washes. I will post more close up photos later. I think I'm over due for buying a tripod, as some of my pictures are a little blurry.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0764a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0775a.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0776cropa.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0786a.jpg

Eater of Small Things
04-07-2008, 00:36
Might be a little too late to mention, but the smoke trail coming out of the rokkit looks too organic and solid. Have you thought about painting pieces of cotton and adding those? Here's a link with examples: http://aerowiki.wikidot.com/creating-serious-damage-markers

Tommygun
04-07-2008, 01:38
That is a nice idea for damage markers. I have not had much luck with cotton or steel wool for making smoke or fire on large models. It picks up dust and has to be replaced or it gets mangled from moving the model around. I made it so it can be removed for transportation. It was kind of an experiment.

Here are a few pictures of the rear area. Some with the Harpoon Launcher in the stowed and firing positions. I'll post more pictures tomorrow.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj133/tomweave/DSCF0741a.jpg

MrP
04-07-2008, 02:26
Lord, how'd I miss this? Absolutely brilliant Ork aircraft, old man! I take my hat off to you! :D

Faolan
04-07-2008, 05:11
I'm surprised you went with something as techy as spin-up fuses, instead of typically orky always armed impact fuses.

Tommygun
04-07-2008, 05:19
I'm surprised you went with something as techy as spin-up fuses, instead of typically orky always armed impact fuses.

Because they are cool looking, easy to make and less than a dozen people on Warseer know the difference.;)
I almost added remove before flight tags on them.

I made some down loadable test rules for the Blasta Bomma if anyone is interested. (Below Pictures)
Thanks to everyone that helped with their input for them.

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Blasta Bommer Rules

bugbait_nz
04-07-2008, 08:35
Looks great with paint on it!!! just wondering how many times you glued yourself to this during construction??

Have you even seen the leading edge of a wing on a fast moving aircraft? they usually have all of the paint worn off and bare metal exposed, might help to give it the "go fast not maintained" look.
My 2c

Bugbait out

Tommygun
04-07-2008, 22:36
Have you even seen the leading edge of a wing on a fast moving aircraft? they usually have all of the paint worn off and bare metal exposed, might help to give it the "go fast not maintained" look.
My 2c

Bugbait out

That's a good idea, if I have the time, I may go back and add more chipped paint on the leading edge.

More stuff to look at.

Tommygun
05-07-2008, 08:38
Here are a few Shots of the business end of this machine.

Tommygun
05-07-2008, 21:12
This next post will be the last photos of the Blasta Bommer. I promise....no really. I know, it is like a new father with ugly baby pictures.....you are going to have to look at them!

bugbait_nz
06-07-2008, 01:26
No need to apologise for the amout of pics!
Im wondering how you did the main engine exhaust?
And only the Orks could work out how to supercharge a gas turbine!
So what are you going to amaze us with next?

Bugabit out (and waiting with anticipation)

Tommygun
06-07-2008, 02:19
No need to apologise for the amout of pics!
Im wondering how you did the main engine exhaust?
And only the Orks could work out how to supercharge a gas turbine!
So what are you going to amaze us with next?

Bugabit out (and waiting with anticipation)

It is a little hard to explain, but you need to use the math formula for Pie 3.14. You are basically making a cone shape with half the cone cut off. So you have two circles: Say one large circle(50mm) that tappers down to a smaller circle(25mm), that are 40mm apart from each other.
So the math, you need to find the circumference of each circle . Large circle: 50mm x 3.14=157.5mm, Small circle: 25mm x 3.14=78.5mm . 157.5 divided by 78.5mm is about 2 or twice the circumference. Now you will need to cut plastic strips that are 40mm long that are twice as wide on one end than the other end. So you could use strips that are 40mm long by 6mm wide on one side by 3mm wide at the other end. These strips are glued onto the bulkhead seen in the first photo. I like to use two layers of these strips, with the second layer of strips scored down the middle and bent slightly and then glued on top of the first layer. I skipped the triangle formulas I used to get the slope I wanted. This is the moment your algebra teacher told you that math would some day save your life.:p

Despoiler
20-07-2008, 00:18
wow thats one amazing model. wish i was as good as u. unfortuatly money is the only thing holding me back at the momment.

so the only question is now... How are you going to top this?:p

Tommygun
20-07-2008, 09:24
Dread Line
I have been working on my dreadnoughts. There are 13 so far. One more coming in the mail and eventually three more from Forge World.
Sorry for the bad pictures, but they are what they are. I need better lighting.
The third picture is my own version of a Chaplin Dreadnought. The 4th and 5th pictures are the Black Templar Dread with an Inquisitor scale claw on it.
The last two pictures are the Nurgle Dread. It is missing its twin linked lascannon right now. A month ago I found it laying out and I put it in a safe place for latter.
Now I can't remember where that safe place is.:rolleyes: At least it is safe from roving ninja thieves that want to steal my bits.

redstarone
20-07-2008, 09:30
Wow.

First let me say your stuff rocks. You let us all see whats possible with plastic card. Your one of the main reasons why I started working with it.

Second, thats alot of dreads. Im glad to see someone else with the same love for them as me. Your chaplain dread looks kick butt.

:chrome:

bugbait_nz
20-07-2008, 09:57
Nice, like the Ork power claw!
Just goes to show you can never have to many dreads!!

Bugbait out.

Ironjens
20-07-2008, 11:38
Ah, nice to see someone else who's got a "need for dread".

I think they're really sweet. How did you do the right arm missile launcher and the left arm lascannon? They look perfect to me.

I think the black templar dread is the nicest of them all, it just oozes cool from every pore...

The nurgle dreads pile of skulls will make any khorne dread green with envy (and making it green it will have to be nurglified, allowing the nurgle dread to catch more converts in its cunning trap...).

But sadly I think the close combat arms on both the chaplain and the inquisitor dreads look too skinny, both the arm and the blades. I like the stubby arm look of the normal dreads.

Incidentally I made my own chaplain dread a while ago (not yet painted though) and I found that the skull-in-a-box from the inquisitor scale ecclesiarchy guy Preacher Josef fits very nicely in the sarcophagus of the plastic dread if you cut out just inside the cables and stuff. Just a tip if you want another one. And I also used the warhammer knight shields on him, great minds think alike, eh?

Good work all in all. Just a small question, do you ever get to game with all your models? For me it tends to become more and more modelling time and less gaming, especially since a new rules edition means time lost in learning it...

Ah, and the flyer is just marvelous, I'm lost for words

Tommygun
20-07-2008, 12:18
How did you do the right arm missile launcher and the left arm lascannon? They look perfect to me.

Good work all in all. Just a small question, do you ever get to game with all your models? For me it tends to become more and more modelling time and less gaming, especially since a new rules edition means time lost in learning it...


Thanks everyone, Its nice to hear what you think.

Ironjens, the missile launcher and lascannon are from Forge World. I have almost all of the loyalist arms they make.
I have started magnetizing the dreads and their arms. Right now I have 8 spare arms and plan on getting more so I can change weapons load outs.

I'm really a modeler. The only games I play are against myself. The upside though, is that I have an excellent win to lost ratio. I don't even want to think about the new rules yet. I'm still learning the old ones!

Tommygun
20-07-2008, 12:30
wow thats one amazing model. wish i was as good as u. unfortuatly money is the only thing holding me back at the momment.

so the only question is now... How are you going to top this?:p

Despoiler, the Thunderbolt I made with less than $10 dollars worth of plasticard. It's a great simple model to start off with too. Right now I'm making a second one that is larger. I can Email you Lackof plans for the plane if you want. You do need to enlarge his plans 152% if you want it to be as big as the forge World thunderbolt. -Tom.

Slaaaaaanesh
20-07-2008, 14:22
NIce load of Dreads, no doubt you will add the new stunty engine version from the new starter set when it comes out. I like the weathering on the Ultra one next to the double missile launcher arm dread.

Son of Russ
20-07-2008, 15:33
Well. I have gone throught this entire thread and seen a genius at work. I am blown away by your skills Bud. Truely!

MagnoliaFan
20-07-2008, 23:41
I'm loving this treath, great work, keep it up!

Marshal Caligula
21-07-2008, 02:48
Simply amazing. Tommygun you never seem to stop stunning me. Keep it up.
Lol maybe your next project could be constructing a Thunderhawk. Now that would be a challenge.

Ironjens
21-07-2008, 22:49
Someone asked what you could top the super sweet megabomma with.

I have an idea:

http://www.cold-moon.com/40k/Deff%20Skwadron/warhammer_40k_deff_skwadron_gn_(wapazoid_dcp)_32-33.jpg

;)

Check it out for more ideas: http://www.cold-moon.com/40k/Deff%20Skwadron/deff_skwadron.htm

Tommygun
22-07-2008, 01:06
Ironjens, that's funny. But sorry, even at Epic scale it would be the size of my room. Thanks for that link too.
I have heard people talk about that graph novel for a long time, but it is out of print and could not find it at a reasonable price.
I may build a Valkyrie next?

Faolan
22-07-2008, 04:18
Valk or a THawk would be very much "win".

Tommygun
30-07-2008, 02:50
I'm working on three projects right now. A Valkyrie, three ork trucks and another dreadnought.
I found a really nice Valkyrie Template and it is coming together easily.
I plan on making a very basic interior in the back with door gunners.
Right now it is about 1/3 or so done.
The ork trucks are a personal obsession with me.
An open topped vehicle should look like it can hold the number of models its codex says it does. So mine hold 12.
I know making them bigger also makes them harder to hide behind terrain, but I don't care.
The shorter, but wider one will be made to look like a yellow dump truck.

razormasticator
30-07-2008, 02:56
Love the dread line, I have 4 myself. Including the new FW Chaplain Dread.

Looks great man!

Faolan
30-07-2008, 05:24
Nice Tommy, nice.

What happened to sectional construction though? :D

Tommygun
30-07-2008, 05:29
GW is coming out with one in a year...so don't even think about it.

Faolan
30-07-2008, 07:35
There's no pictures of a plastic prototype or confirmation or announcements, so I'll believe it when I see it.

*Edit*

So I went back and looked at the trukks, and, holy crap. Those are hot. My wife looked at them and say "wow, those are great. Gotta love the guy. Dunno 'im, but gotta love 'im!"

I think maybe we should work out a trade!

Tommygun
01-08-2008, 02:47
Finished the final ork truck. I still need to make drivers and gunners for two of the trucks, but I'll save that for another time.
Probable start painting them this weekend. The big shoota for this Dump truck is a hand cranked Gatling gun.
I magnetized the rear gate so it can be used up or down and will have a chain to hold it in the horizontal position like a pickup truck.
The dump truck will get a heavily weathered yellow paint job.
I'm going for a look of a looted human vehicle with a few ork glyph hastily painted on.

bugbait_nz
01-08-2008, 05:53
Did you know red ones go fasta? like the gatling gun!
The local plasticard saleman must smile when he sees you walk in!

Bugbait out

Faolan
01-08-2008, 07:23
While still shaking since its time for another restock and he'll be out for a week and a half.

Slaaaaaanesh
01-08-2008, 08:19
Hi Tommygun, I must say I am impressed at how you keep working on new projects. I don't seem to have the disipline that you have to finish which ever project that is in question (from start to finished paint job). Are your Ork trucks make out of one kit?

Tommygun
01-08-2008, 08:45
-Slaaaaaanesh, they are made out of one full kit and two partial kits I obtained from The WarStore's bits shop.

-Faolan & Bugbait, I almost ordered a piece of plastic styrene from US Plastic that was 72 inches by 40 inches by .040 inches thick. The price isn't bad, about $12 plus $7 for shipping. I still have a lot left, so I will wait.
Bugbait, I know red is fasta, but my Tonka Truck, as a child was yellow. As an adult, my Ford Ranger is Bright Yellow:)

Nice to hear from you all, -tom.

gonzosbignose
01-08-2008, 09:06
Tommygun

Someone has been busy. I didnt realise that this was going to turn into a who has got the coolest plane... alas... yours beats mine to a pulp.

I love the work on your Orky bomma....

The details are absolutely fab...

As for your trucks... :evilgrin: 'ork delivery'

They are awesome looking... getting me inspired to do soem vehicles again...

Trust you are well

Regards

My name is Daniel and i am a wargamer

gonzosbignose
04-08-2008, 16:42
All is quiet on the Tommy front?

regards

My name is Daniel and i am a wargamer

drummerboy93
04-08-2008, 19:23
I'm working on three projects right now. A Valkyrie, three ork trucks and another dreadnought.
I found a really nice Valkyrie Template and it is coming together easily.
I plan on making a very basic interior in the back with door gunners.
Right now it is about 1/3 or so done.
The ork trucks are a personal obsession with me.
An open topped vehicle should look like it can hold the number of models its codex says it does. So mine hold 12.
I know making them bigger also makes them harder to hide behind terrain, but I don't care.
The shorter, but wider one will be made to look like a yellow dump truck.


Do you mind either posting the template link or PMing me it.

Slaaaaaanesh
04-08-2008, 20:15
-Slaaaaaanesh, they are made out of one full kit and two partial kits I obtained from The WarStore's bits shop.

Nice use of your skills to make good economy of the Orky bits.

Tommygun
05-08-2008, 01:57
OK, sense you asked. I actually just finished the truck today.
The other two trucks will be painted later in a basic black Goff style.
I don't think the red paint jobs are really worth the 5 points with the new movement rules?
What do you guys think?
I just had a thought...I need to go back and write the word Tonka on the back!

redstarone
05-08-2008, 02:01
I must say its rather refreshing to see an ork vehicle thats not red. In fact, im really digging the yellow scheme. I love the glyphs on the sides and the exhaust off the engine block.

Great stuff tommygun, your always just the dose of inspiration I need to get my plastic card projects moving ;)

:chrome:

Faolan
05-08-2008, 05:24
Well, I'd splash a bit of red on it, even if it's just over the fenders, type deal.

And just because it's red or mostly red doesn't mean you HAVE to pay the 5 points, hah.