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Spacewolves vs Thousandsons
11-02-2008, 17:16
ok strange question but can GK be recruited into an Ordos Xenos Deathwatch Killteam? i mean technically they are a SM chapter and deathwath recruits from all chapters (i am aware that there are the occasional exceptions) but does it happen im just curious is all anyone got any thoughts on this or if some one made a similar thread to this could u please direct me to it thanks

Killgore
11-02-2008, 17:22
i doubt it, deathwatch are run by a different branch of the Inquisition

Findecano
11-02-2008, 17:44
there really isn't much use for them. there are only 1000 grey knights, and only so many deathwatch marines. there cant be alot of need for marines who can tackle posessed eldar or orks, as these things don't happen alot. further more, the grey knights don't follow the codex astartes; they might be space marines, but they aren't a chapter like any other chapter. thus, normal chapters are probably bound by some treaty made at a gathering of marine chapters, requiring them to lend so many marines to the deatwatch. grey knights, not being part of that treaty, wouldn't have to.

zoodog
12-02-2008, 00:55
Seems unlikely, there two different branches of the inquisition and while a Grey Knights skills might be useful to a kill team; its taking him away from his true training focus against daemons

I have seen a squad of grey knights painted up as deathwatch however, and it seems like a reasonable way to do it- as the Chapter approved DW end up costing about the same amount of points.

Chaplain of Chaos
12-02-2008, 01:10
I would also think that a Grey Knight would never deign to join the Death Watch. They probably see themselves as serving a higher purpose.

DantesInferno
12-02-2008, 01:55
ok strange question but can GK be recruited into an Ordos Xenos Deathwatch KIllteam? i mean technically they are a SM chapter and deathwathrecruits from all chapters (i am aware that there are the occasional exceptions) but does it happen im just curious is all anyone got aqny thoughts on this or if some one made a similar thread to this could u please direct me to it thanks

No, it doesn't happen. Grey Knights are incredibly valuable to the Imperium. Huge amounts of resources and effort is invested across the Imperium in finding the most physically capable, pure psykers the Imperium has to offer and training them beyond belief to be the most powerful anti-Daemon force in the galaxy.

It's simply out of the question that the carefully honed and specialised anti-Daemon abilities of a Grey Knight would be wasted by inducting them into the Deathwatch.

Feor
12-02-2008, 02:26
A Grey Knight would not be secunded to the Deathwatch, they've a million other marines out there to choose from. If they need an Anti-Daemon marine that badly, they can recruit one from the Exorcists.

BUT

It's quite reasonable in the case of the above postulated Possesed Eldar or Ork, that a Squad of Grey Knights might join a Killteam for a few fights.

Khaine's Messenger
12-02-2008, 02:33
ok strange question but can GK be recruited into an Ordos Xenos Deathwatch KIllteam?

Sure. But I really think it would be bad news for the Kill Team, since adding that sort of expertise to the team would come at a rather high price for everyone else. And, these being seasoned Marines of some experience, his new buddies are going to be rather ticked off when they get turned into drooling idiots at the end of his stint. Not for long, of course. Then again, that depends on whether or not we're in the "kinder, gentler" Imperium of late M41....


does it happen

I would say not. "Can" yes, but in practice, no. A Deathwatch Kill Team would act in concert with a squad of Grey Knights occasionally (since squads of both are requisitioned as "bodyguards" by a few Inquisitors), but, barring an extreme situation, no.

pookie
12-02-2008, 12:51
there is no need for a GK to be attahed, the DW sqaud would be lead by a Librarian, which would fullfill the role.

remeber DW are about Xenos, and GK about Daemons, the only time i can see the both working together would be a Daemon infestation that was first thought to be Xenos, but turned out deeper problem.

Sceleris
12-02-2008, 13:05
As mentioned the two are the militant/specialist arms of two sections of the Inquisition so it is unlikely that the two would merge in that way.

I suppose you could paint up the librarian as a GK (or use one of their models) - limit the power(s) you give him (if you can) to just the force weapon - and go for it.

Malforus
12-02-2008, 13:12
I would vote no as they are both a form of special forces. Special forces never "recruit" other, rather they do joint ops and may trade specialists. But in 40k allegences to your particular branch are paramount and there is more drama over command. So...I would vote that due to political pissing contests they would never be fielded on the same battlefield.

As cool and tactical as the actual warfighters are, there is some bionically enhanced bearucrat that runs those departments as they are exceptions to the Astartes typical self-governance.

Spacewolves vs Thousandsons
12-02-2008, 15:11
was only curious besides it really was a random thought that popped into my head

FrankManic
12-02-2008, 17:41
I'd say it would be rather redundant. Grey Knights and the Deathwatch serve in similar capacities for different aspects of the Inquisition. Now, Grey Knights and Deathwatch fighting together against a threat that required both of their specializations? Sure, that might happen.

Feor
13-02-2008, 00:05
As cool and tactical as the actual warfighters are, there is some bionically enhanced bearucrat that runs those departments as they are exceptions to the Astartes typical self-governance.

I don't know about Deathwatch, but the Grey Knights are actually an autonomour chapter, that happens to works closely enough with the Ordos Malleus to be considered part of their forces. However, like any Space Marine Chapter, the Chapter Master of the Grey Knights accepts reccommendations from the inquisition, not orders.

Of course, the fact that the Chapter Master of the Grey Knights is one of the inner circle of the Inquisition helps make sure their goals stay fairly close to those of the Ordos Malleus.