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Inquisitor Engel
03-10-2005, 03:50
Well, rather than start a post for each suit, I've decided to create basically a diary of my Tau exploits.

First up is my Commander -

Upon my trip to the UK, where I participated (and was generally mauled all around) in the Dysartes tournament, I picked up a large amount of Forge World Tau suits. Along with 4 XV-89's and an 84, I also picked up Shas'O'R'Myr's battlesuit, which was just too gorgeous to ignore. In the process of making him my own, I did a couple of suitble conversions.

I swapped out the twin plasma (which found its way onto one of his Shas'vre bodyguards) for a Melta. This is due mainly to his role as a General and Commander than his fighting prowess. Another slight conversion is the moving of the head back, so that his head would fit into the helmet, rather than simply sit inside the body and give a view.

The army, known as the Dyn'Ken'rai'Shas'Kau'ui is used primarily in the taking and holding of cities, although night warfare in thick jungles also favour the Dyn'Kau'ui.

Without further ado, I give you Shas'O'T'au'Dynerah'Aloh'Kais.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Dawnlightprofile.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/dawnlight34ths.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/dawnlightshield.jpg


The writing on the shield says his full name and 'The dawn brings hope.' Took a while to write, but I think it worked out very well.

The white in the centre of the T'au symbol has been made a little clearer since the pic was taken.

Inquisitor Engel
03-10-2005, 03:56
Second up is the first of the Shas'ui in the battlesuits.

Just a simple XV84, nothing special just assembled in a neat pose as it comes before.

If you can ever get your hands on one of the FW suits, do it. The posability is awesome, and reminds me why FW gets my money from time to time.

Anyway, Shas'Ui'T'au'Por'Nan'Savon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Suit1Frontal.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Suit1Left.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Suit1Right.jpg

Yes I know I posted this one a couple of days ago, but for the sake of complacency, here it is again. :)

Inquisitor Engel
03-10-2005, 04:03
Third suit done, with their Shas'vre up next in an XV87 with a couple of modifications.

I've toned down the highlights, and made them a little more consistent with a 25/75 mix of Shadow Grey and Space Wolf Grey mix, which seems to suggest just enough depth and shading to be worth it. It's also quite easy to do.

Anyway, here's Shas'Ui'Dal'yth'Se'hel't'che'an.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Suit2front.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Suit2side.jpg

I like his pose especially.

TitusAndronicus
03-10-2005, 04:07
I really like the blue paneling on the white. Looks sharp. Go sign my card you meanie!

lord_blackfang
03-10-2005, 09:21
Do you have any plastic Stealths to post? :D

Davian
03-10-2005, 14:22
Very nice color scheme, and the paint job looks nice, though it's hard to pick out some of the details due to the pictures. I've already got one of the Forge World suits, and I've been resisting the temptation to get more to replace the rest of my suits. Seeing these just slid me a bit more in that direction. It's nice to see that you can put them on the smaller, normal-sized battlesuit bases and still manage to give them good poses...

x-esiv-4c
03-10-2005, 14:32
Brilliant work engel! Well done!

Phyros
03-10-2005, 14:54
Whoa! Looks kick ass! Can't wait to see more.

Pertinax
03-10-2005, 15:20
They look a bit, er, grey to me. Will you be adding more writing and "barcodes" to make them stand out a bit?

And why sort of bases would you be looking at putting them on? Standard green, or something more exciting?

Inquisitor Engel
03-10-2005, 16:00
They look a bit, er, grey to me. Will you be adding more writing and "barcodes" to make them stand out a bit?

And why sort of bases would you be looking at putting them on? Standard green, or something more exciting?

Yeah, I can't seem to find any transfers, so there's no lines or writing. I'll be adding that last of all, that way I can keep some consistency and such.

The bases will be ruined city, but bases are always the last thing I do. :)

Pertinax
03-10-2005, 16:46
FW do a Tau transfer sheet, in both white and black.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/transfers.htm

Alekenisis
03-10-2005, 17:14
Oooh, me like the conversion work on the Commander. The 'sunken head' thing really emphasises the Mecha flavour of the Tau, what with it being really a head in there - very cool!

Nice paint job, too, Engie. Although criticism coming from my corner is pointless, if I *could* offer some comment i'd quietly state that the highlights on the knee pads are a little too sharp, and that a slightly darker colour might look a little more...natural. Having said that, it's damn fine as is, and it does look nifty given a) the Stylised-Mecha look of the Tau (particularly these!), and b) may be pass-off-able as wear 'n' tear chipping paint off such areas.
If you get what I mean.
But I like them.
Muchly.
I do.
True.

:)

Heero-Severus
03-10-2005, 17:44
Im liking the FW commander, ive got one and shall be converting him also. But in the style of "mon'tau" and maybe some minor khorne influencing!

VanDoo
03-10-2005, 21:30
They're very nice. If I ever start a Tau army, I'll get a FW battlesuit for my Shas'O. Really like your paint scheme.

Inquisitor Engel
04-10-2005, 01:12
I undercoated the Crisis team's Shas'vre today, he's in an XV84, with the Missile pods, though I'm using them as a unique (earlier issue) single, than a twin linked. Plasma still on one hand, and a target lock on the other.

It looks better than it sounds. :)
Before I post him, I thought I'd show the two bodyguard Shas'vre for O'Dynerah, unpainted. They're very nice, and I find their poses are about as dynamic landed as the others are in flight.

Also, more proof that the FW suits can well-utilise their SUPERB dynamicism on a regular 40mm base, even when they're landed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/bodyguard2unpainted.jpg

Yes, that's a twin linked plasma, but again, just an earlier issue rather than a twin linked. It shows some progression.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/bodyguard1unpainted.jpg

I just like this one's "just landed" sort of pose.

These guys don't have names yet though.

Easy E
04-10-2005, 03:54
I like the strak highlights on the knee pads. As you said, it brings out the Mech influences. I also like the head modification on your commander.

The new poses look nice as well. The head on the second suit one looks a bit off.

Inquisitor Engel
04-10-2005, 04:20
The new poses look nice as well. The head on the second suit one looks a bit off.

Now that you mention it, in the photo it does.

The head is actually parallel to the bottom of the base, but in relation to the braced "just landed" body, looks upwards. Photographed at a downward angle it does look a tad off, the final ones will be at a better angle to demonstrate.

Shas'o'Fior
04-10-2005, 04:34
must...have....FW....suits....so...awesome...

Negafex
04-10-2005, 15:52
they look very cool, i really like the blue, what color is it?

Inquisitor Engel
04-10-2005, 17:35
they look very cool, i really like the blue, what color is it?

Just Shadow Grey over a black undercoat. The highlight is a 50/50 Shadow Grey and Space Wolves Grey mix, though I'm experimenting with different levels as I go.

The problem with such dark suits on these is that I then have no idea how to make the Stealth suits more stealthy! :p

plasmadaemon
04-10-2005, 17:37
The problem with such dark suits on these is that I then have no idea how to make the Stealth suits more stealthy! :p


Black ink wash them after you painted it in the colours you want, but make sure to add a bit of washing-up liquid to it so it doesn't go patchy.

Negafex
04-10-2005, 18:50
to make my stealth suits look cool i took my normal color scheme but instead of painting it in an organized fashion i took the colors and made almost the whole suit camoflauge pattern, its actually a lot easier than it seems but u look very good at painting already so it should be a breeze. the only areas i dont recomend camoing are the spots under large plates of armor

Davian
04-10-2005, 19:34
The problem with such dark suits on these is that I then have no idea how to make the Stealth suits more stealthy! :p

I just put a splotchy pattern on mine, fading from dark green to muddy brown. Then I put a clear pearlescent coat over the whole model. Gives them a shiny, shifty, Predator-esque look, as if their camo is turned on.

Shas'El Tael
05-10-2005, 00:47
Really nice work Engel, I've got a couple of FW suits and they are my pride and joy.

Thanks for posting your models, interesting to see other poses with them :)

Inquisitor Engel
05-10-2005, 04:58
Thanks for posting your models, interesting to see other poses with them :)

You don't see many of them, out there other than the FW versions, I'm attempting to inspire as well as document. I'd be thrilled if you could post yours at some point too.

No work done today, sick and work, and school got in the way. Stupid life. :p

Inquisitor Engel
06-10-2005, 22:38
Well, the first Crisis team is done.

I'll be the first to admit, I'm not thrilled with this pose, it's very static, and doesn't fit with the rest fo the squad, but instead does give him sort of a directing pose. Putting the Target lock on the arm was a rather different idea on my part, and not something I planned on doing, but ended up working out very, very well.

Shas'vre'Sa'cea'J'kaara'Ka'Fo'Kais

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/crisisshasvreleft.jpg
Side view

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/crisisshasvrefront.jpg
Head on shot...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/crisisshasvre34ths.jpg
3/4ths view of the entire body and such. I rather like the gem-like T'au symbol.

As I said before, it's a Target Lock, Missile Pod and Plasma Rifle, it's just a big Missile Pod, of older design. :) The highlighting seems to be working well this time with the mix coming into its own.

I can't wait to get down to the Shas'vre body guard, though I'll be taking a break to do my Pathfinders first. Doing it all at once tends to lead to exhaustion!

Inquisitor Engel
06-10-2005, 22:39
And a shot of the entire team!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/crisissquad.jpg

They'll look much better once I get a hand on some transfers and add numbers and barcodes, but I'm very satisfied with how they turned out.

Shas'El Tael
07-10-2005, 00:09
Real Nice Engel, real nice. (Penguin Leader speak - Madagascar) :)

How many suits did you buy all up ? Have much issue with the release agent?

~ Tael.

Inquisitor Engel
07-10-2005, 01:01
How many suits did you buy all up ?

Six in total. 4 XV-89's, 1 XV-81 and Shas'O'R'myr's battlesuit (which is now an XV-72, see my 'Design a Battlesuit' Thread) It was a lot of cash, but it was well worth it.

I'm not going to have a single regular Battlesuit in the army, with the exception of the scandelously good new Stealth Suits.


Have much issue with the release agent?

Eh. Not really. I took my time getting them done. The individual elbow join can be rather week if you don't glue and green stuff it and such, it may add posability, but damn is it weak.

Negafex
07-10-2005, 03:38
cool cool i like em, very crisp and clean which is always good on tau. are they hard to put together with super glue and green stuff? how did you put your together couse fw stuff has always given me loads of trouble

Inquisitor Engel
07-10-2005, 19:28
are they hard to put together with super glue and green stuff?

They require planning and patience.

Wait until all the parts are fully glued before you move onto adding the next part. Popping the feet on and adding glue once you position them on the base is also a strategy I recommend.

The only reason I needed green stuff was because I moved the weapons and in the process snapped the joint. Super glue works fine, and I mean GW Brand metal-metal super glue, not plastic glue.


how did you put your together couse fw stuff has always given me loads of trouble

Depends what you've bought. Mine came without much flash and a quick wash with soapy water sorted most of the residue out.

What have you tried putting together?

Inquisitor Engel
08-10-2005, 04:07
Well, today I finished undercoating the Pathfinders, repainted the Sept symbol on the Rail Rifle Pathfinders, as well as painted a single converted Pathfinder.

I include the picture of all (picture in the next post) to show that I managed to keep the colours and theme together even between a six month painting difference! Somehow.

Shas'la'T'au'Suam'Ya
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Pathfinder4.jpg

Shas'la'T'au'Denta'Au
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/pathrail1-1.jpg

Shas'la'T'au'Denlock'Doran
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/pathrail2.jpg

Shas'la'T'au'Kais'Fo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/pathrail3.jpg

Inquisitor Engel
08-10-2005, 04:09
I'm not sure why I can't get the focus right on the newer one. :mad: Probably just the lighting.

Anyway, the pic of them all.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/PathfinderGroup.jpg

I'm happy with them, more than happy.

TitusAndronicus
08-10-2005, 04:55
how are you gonna base em again?

Inquisitor Engel
08-10-2005, 14:30
how are you gonna base em again?

Probably city rubble, though I'm undecided at this point.

TitusAndronicus
08-10-2005, 14:32
You should buy a box of skellies and make them trudging over a bunch of human remains. Tau are never seen as badasses. That would be a real switcheroo!

immortal99
08-10-2005, 15:15
I'm not sure why I can't get the focus right on the newer one. :mad: Probably just the lighting.

Anyway, the pic of them all.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/PathfinderGroup.jpg

I'm happy with them, more than happy.

thats what i did with my 8 man pathfinder squad a while back to save cash bought 2 x 2 railrifle dudes, 1 x 3 pathfinders and a shas ui cause i had to many man with rail rifles i gave 1 binoculars from the devilfish i bought as well :D

VanDoo
08-10-2005, 17:09
Very nice, but one question though: are you going to name ALL your Tau?

A neutral shade of black.
08-10-2005, 18:28
Very nice, but one question though: are you going to name ALL your Tau?

Hey, it's not that hard. It only requires a dictionary and a good sense of where to place apostrophes. I should know; I did it. After all, it's only 40-60 models.

(Besides, remember that Tau names are earned, not given at birth, so a Shas'la has no name until he illustrates himself in any way - yeah, Kais being names Kais in Fire Warrior was just GW trying to be people-friendly for the dumb.)

Nice stuff indeed, Engel. Looking forward to see the rest (zomg you got a compliment from Tael! He is a god!). I like your scheme... Even if it looks a bit like mine. :P

(I also picked Shadow Grey as my main colour. As for making Stealth suits darker, by the way, I chose not too - my cadre was originally based on an ash desert world, so the idea was to make the XV15s closer to the ground colour, i.e. greyer.)

VanDoo
08-10-2005, 18:36
Hey, it's not that hard. It only requires a dictionary and a good sense of where to place apostrophes. I should know; I did it. After all, it's only 40-60 models.

(Besides, remember that Tau names are earned, not given at birth, so a Shas'la has no name until he illustrates himself in any way - yeah, Kais being names Kais in Fire Warrior was just GW trying to be people-friendly for the dumb.)

Gah! I can just see myself trying to give names to 150+ Marines! I think I'll stick to just giving names to my sergeants and officers, thank you! Plus, Tau names are even harder, as you don't have as much to base it on.

Negafex
08-10-2005, 23:42
these guys just keep getting better the more i look at them. also engel, the only fw model i had ever got was a fw hive tyrant with wings. is fw stuff still made of the same material or has it gotten a little bit more durable and easier to work with?

Inquisitor Engel
09-10-2005, 00:18
Hey, it's not that hard. It only requires a dictionary and a good sense of where to place apostrophes. I should know; I did it. After all, it's only 40-60 models.

For most people at least.;)

I'll name them all, at least a bit. The original plan was to just name Battlesuits, but I figure, what the hell? :D

A neutral shade of black.
09-10-2005, 21:43
For most people at least.;)

I'll name them all, at least a bit. The original plan was to just name Battlesuits, but I figure, what the hell? :D

Just remember not to name the random Shas'la. :P

And you can't have that many more models than fifty. Oh, as a side note; I also named every behicle crew member (so out of about forty five models total I was closer to sixty or so).

Anyway, it's rather easy, as long as you don't stop yourself and think "this one is a bit too similar to that one, yada yada yada." As soon as you start asking yourself questions, you're done for and won't go anywhere. *has a long habit of naming every model in his armies, including his Tau, Druchii, Reiklander warband and Cynwäll elves >.>*

Inquisitor Engel
10-10-2005, 04:37
Just remember not to name the random Shas'la. :P

All Tau have names, I think it's reasonable to assume that once the Tau establishes himself a reputation his "Earned name" replaces his birth name.

So birth names probably don't mean anything in Tau.

But that's besides the point. ;)

Anyway, completed another Pathfinder today. A tad less neat than my other attempt, but much nicer than the Pathfinders in my original Tau army... I'm pleased.

I don't know why, but I couldn't seem to get the highlights right on the carbine, and they ended up a tad blurry, and I'm not sure why. Oh well. Line trooper.

Shas'la'T'au'Cali'Ukos (Yes, I used the spoon word. I just couldn't resist...)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Pathfinder5.jpg

Inquisitor Engel
10-10-2005, 22:52
And now we have but three to go! (Counting this one)

Don't worry, the Fire Warrior Squad won't be dragged out nearly this long. ;)

I spent a bit longer on this one, and I'm not sure why. The other two are ready enough for details, with the weapons and such done.

Shas'la'T'au'B'Aloh
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Pathfinder6.jpg

I'm contemplating the use of grey for the guns... and if it was a good idea. My original army had scab red (flat) weapons, all of them.

I might return to the red for the Fire Warriors, but the grey does seem to work for a more camo scheme, given my predeliction for night and city fighting.

Thoughts?

Negafex
10-10-2005, 23:07
i think that would be a good ideea as they look a little dark from here and that would lighten them up

Inquisitor Engel
15-10-2005, 21:58
Pathfinders are done at last!

I shan't bother with the picture of the other standard Pathfidner (Shas'la'T'au'Ar'Anuk) but I'm quite impressed with the job I did on my Shas'ui. Slower methods lead to some cleaner highlights and finer lines on the helmet.

I'm not using the lines to designate rank, as it's seems kind of pointless when my suits are going to be so blatantly different for the unit commanders. The Tau in the units themselves know who their superior is, helmet designations would be superfluous.

Shas'ui'T'au'Kauyon'Acaya

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/PathfinderShasui.jpg

The whole group pleases me. They're nicely unified, and look stealthy-like, at least in a night fighting or city fight area. Hopefully I'll have a picture of them in some terrain soon enough.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/PathfinderGroup2.jpg

lord_blackfang
15-10-2005, 22:07
Something tells me the pictures don't do them justice. Get some proper lighting ;)

Gazak Blacktoof
15-10-2005, 23:11
Its the bases that are the problem, dark miniatutres on black bases are never going to have any definition. Once the bases are done they'll look much better.

igotsmeakabob!!
16-10-2005, 00:25
What is this I'm hearing on new stealth suits?

Inquisitor Engel
16-10-2005, 03:09
Its the bases that are the problem, dark miniatutres on black bases are never going to have any definition. Once the bases are done they'll look much better.

Yeah, the only problem is I despise basing. My Ultramarines are all on sand with bubonic brown sides bases, and they look decent. It is however, the first actual basing that I've ever done. :(

Any suggestions on small "rubble" to use? Preferably something that doesn't require highlighting or painting after the fact, other than the sides. (Why do you think I chose sand for the Ultras? :p)


What is this I'm hearing on new stealth suits?

Not the place to ask mate. Try reading Brimstone's Rumour Roundup thread in 40k Rumours. I've said all I can say on the matter.

Makaber
16-10-2005, 03:57
Not to poop on anyones parade or anything, but I don't get all the rave. Sure, they're nicely enough painted, but not above what I'd expect for a fairly good playing standard. The highlights on the gray are pretty shoddy, the blue either looks very rough and in some cases suffer from the same stark and messy highlighting as the gray, and the metal parts look flat and lumpy. My main beef is how bland they look, though: A grayish deep blue with gray parts, and white detailing? It's practically half a colour on the entire model. I'd jazz it up with something: Maybe expand the use of the (currently few and small) red/orange elements, to brighten it up a little and give it some definition. Then again, brigher and clearer pictures probably would do a world of difference.

Inquisitor Engel
16-10-2005, 06:54
Then again, brigher and clearer pictures probably would do a world of difference.

That's my camera more than anything. That I can't fix without anything but sweet cash. ;)

Sweet cash is lacking. :(

As for the lack of colour - I don't want bright Tau, but right now they're devoid of transfers, which is certainly detracting from any extraneous colour they might have, as far as they go, the sky's the limit.

The palette is limited for harmony and camoflage, rather than contrast and compliment. It's just how I see Tau - Practical with a flare.

And yes, I know my edge highlights are rough, unfortunately it's nothing I can fix overnight, but fortunately nothing I can't paint over. :)

And Makaber, you've always been my harshest critic, on the Eldar and the Ultramarines - Thanks for pushing me to improve. :)

mattjgilbert
16-10-2005, 07:18
I think it is an excellent colour scheme. Very natural and practical for a military force... plain colours which will blend well into their surroundings (in most cases). These will look great altogether with finished bases.

Inquisitor Engel
17-10-2005, 03:35
An hour later, I've completed my first Fire Warrior - Don't worry, I won't be placing my every one on this picture, just the squad when I finish it.

Slow highlighting of both the black cloth and shadow-grey armour, as well as just taking my time in general has lead to something I'm very pleased with.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/FirstFireWarrior.jpg

The inversion of the colour scheme from the Pathfinders is a direct correlation to how I see Tau promotion - From their time as trainees, those with a penchant for support, individuality and stealth are drafted into Fire Warrior teams, and those who don't go into Fire Warrior teams.

Pathfinders may one day be eligible for promotion to Stealth Suits, but barring odd success in another field, can't go for Crisis or Broadside. Fire Warriors may eventually migrate to either vehicle duty, Broadside or Crisis in the course of their promotion, although some change-up does occur as the Tau's skills develop.

I rather like the red pulse rifle, though I won't be altering the Pathfinder colours, due to their role in the army, more stealth and camoflage. Red doesn't blend well with ruins or in the night after all. ;)

Samoth
17-10-2005, 15:02
I've loved everything up till the fire warrior, excellent poses and colour schemes. Those fw suits are fantastic! I really dont like the pulse rifle however, sorry. Just dont like it. Plus the helmet, it cant decide whether it's trying to be blue or black. Again, a little niggly thing.

And why is it that everyone is painting their tau shadow grey all of a sudden? Just about every tau scheme that can be done has be done, and my last resort, a darker shadow grey than what I have now is also taken. Back the the drawing board, I suppose... Just in passing, did you take the inspiration from the respective tanks on the back of the devilfish and hammerhead boxes?

Inquisitor Engel
17-10-2005, 15:29
And why is it that everyone is painting their tau shadow grey all of a sudden?

Everyone? I thought I was at least being semi-original. :(


Back the the drawing board, I suppose...

Hey, don't let me stop you. Do what you wanna do. :)


Just in passing, did you take the inspiration from the respective tanks on the back of the devilfish and hammerhead boxes?

I've no idea to be honest. When the Tau first came out I used pretty much the same colour scheme, although much worse painted and far less thought out. I've just carried it over to this army I suppose.

What's up with the pulse rifle? Alternative recommendations? I really don't want to do it Shadow Grey too though, but I'm glad you've enjoyed everything else. :)

Samoth
17-10-2005, 15:49
Well counting your- and my- self, I know of about 4 folks who did shadow grey. Problem is some of those play at my local store. I originally had codex grey, but got sick of people asking me whether I'd just assembled the models then inked the crevices black. :( You're not stopping me, but I like to try and be a little original in everything I do... I'm an anti-conformity conformist at heart.

As for the fire warrior, I'd reccomend the scheme for the pathfinders. The black cloth with grey highlights just looks... Dirty, as it's very hard to highlight black cloth without making it look dull, dirty, or grey. So I'd say the exact same scheme as the pathfinders. I also like the slightly glossier look of the scouts too. I'm sorry, it's what you said you didnt want to do, but it looks the best imo.

Inquisitor Engel
17-10-2005, 16:19
The black cloth with grey highlights just looks... Dirty, as it's very hard to highlight black cloth without making it look dull, dirty, or grey.

Tell me about it! I'm trying to keep the highlights as low-key as possible for that reason. I'm getting marginally better at it.


So I'd say the exact same scheme as the pathfinders. I also like the slightly glossier look of the scouts too. I'm sorry, it's what you said you didnt want to do, but it looks the best imo.

It does look good, but I really do want to have the Pathfinders be different entirely.

As for glossy-ness and colour, does it look better once I've recalibrated the colour in Photoshop. It now actually looks less soft and much more like the actual model. Forgot to do it the first time. Smae my camera isn't good enough to do this automatically...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/FirstFireWarrior2.jpg

my_name_is_tudor
17-10-2005, 16:19
I'd prefer the pulse rifle in a lighter blue colour, like enchanted blue mixed with some shadow grey.. i'm not sure. Otherwise this army is looking lovely.

The shade of blue you've got going with the armour is very cool indeed. What's the recipe?

Inquisitor Engel
17-10-2005, 16:22
The shade of blue you've got going with the armour is very cool indeed. What's the recipe?

Shadow Grey over a black undercoat, highlighted with a pre-mixed bottle (never made a better investment!) of 50/40/10 Shadow Grey, Space Wolves Grey and Skull White. I've added the skull white since I did the battlesuits.

I cannot say enough about the greatness of having a batch of pre-mixed paint! :D

immortal99
17-10-2005, 16:43
use icy blue for the gun that would look cool and have the gold bit on it boltgun metal instead.

my_name_is_tudor
17-10-2005, 16:49
Shadow Grey over a black undercoat, highlighted with a pre-mixed bottle (never made a better investment!) of 50/40/10 Shadow Grey, Space Wolves Grey and Skull White. I've added the skull white since I did the battlesuits.

I cannot say enough about the greatness of having a batch of pre-mixed paint! :D

cheers

you know what, the red gun is actually growing on me.. give it a couple of hours and I'll think it looks great. :p I think at first it just seems a little out of place, but it does look pretty cool.

Kotobuki
17-10-2005, 18:38
For the Tau, with the color scheme you've chosen, I think the red gun is a bit out of place. Especially with the dark grey/blue armor. I think thier weapons look best when the kind of blend in with the rest of the model, rather than standing out. (I think the exact opposite of Marines) I think Black and the Blue/Grey on the weapons would look quite good across the board. The red gun also seems a little too solidly Red. If you cut back on the red, and left a little more bare black on it, perhaps that would help balance it more?

Inquisitor Engel
17-10-2005, 20:31
I've just tried out a shadow grey rifle, and it just looks odd. The Pathfinders look better with them, probably because of the black armour - The shadow grey armour (which, by the way, I'm set on :p) just seems to blend into the gun, and the black gun looks equally as bland.

I'll try out Space Wolves Grey or Ice Blue tonight.

EDIT: Using the wonder of photoshop, I've managed to have a go at what the gun would look like in a
Shadow Grey (top left), Ultramarine Blue (top right), Black (bottom left) and the current colour, red.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Firewarriorcomparison.jpg

I personally still prefer red, for the simple reason of contrast at this point.

lredman
17-10-2005, 20:46
I agree that a contrasting colour would be nice for the guns, but I think maybe the reds a bit too bright. It detracts from the rest of the model slightly.

As for what colour to do instead I'm really not sure at the moment.

*EDIT* I thought about it - what about a dark grey or dark green?

my_name_is_tudor
17-10-2005, 20:49
Yep, I thought so - I like the red now :D

Malakai
17-10-2005, 21:29
Go with the red Engel it is a nice contrast, and it's not that brite at all IMO.

Malakai

Easy E
18-10-2005, 05:04
Red- gives some definition to the model.

Keep up the progress.

Samoth
18-10-2005, 15:14
How about this then - dont paint it all red? Paint some sections/panels/the stock black, like the studio army. Also, I think the gold seems a little out of place too, would boltgun be better? Wish I had photoshop. Red is the best out of those though, and the smoother picture now looks much better. Spend your next hard earned cash on a better camera, and then finish painting your models instead of buying more! :p

Inquisitor Engel
18-10-2005, 18:56
Paint some sections/panels/the stock black, like the studio army.

I'll think about it - the panels on the gun are so long or tall that doing so might detract from the overall colour... Adding weapon stripes like the studio army is a more likely event, but I'll have to look into what colours, as white is just too bright.

I'll wait till I'm done with the unit to try out weapon stripes though, I'm glad you approve marginally more. ;)


Also, I think the gold seems a little out of place too, would boltgun be better?

The battlesuits use gold accents on some of their components, but I'll look into it and see how it looks on the next one one I do, probably sometime tonight.


Spend your next hard earned cash on a better camera, and then finish painting your models instead of buying more! :p

Aside from my 12 Dryads and Glade Guard, which I've since given up on for the time being, I'm almost done with what I have with me. :( (My Night Lords are at home, and won't have a chance to get them until Christmas!)

I'll be ordering some Forge World XV84's, 3 to be exact, to convert into Broadsides, with Railguns on the arms. Whilst a project I really want to do, I'm not really looking forward to working with resin in such an extensive manner. :(

Negafex
18-10-2005, 19:23
i dun it before with my fw tyrant and working with resin is tricky. it doesnt cut well with a knife so i used my hot wire cutter to get a precise cut. but i recomend u test it on some resin flashing or spare bit u dont care about first.

Inquisitor Engel
20-10-2005, 22:05
Despite my utmost attempts not to have to paint any skin at all, I've discovered that two of my Fire Warriors have to have bare heads.

So I did one today.

The issue with my colour pallette is that it does indeed almost blend with the skin tone of the Tau. I didn't want anything too bright, so I used the same Shadow and Space Wolves Grey mix for the base, with a couple of lighter drybrushes bring it up to something you can tell is different from the overall grey pallette.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/FireWarriorHead2.jpg

I also tried out the black panels on the bottom of the rifles, in the same manner as the studio army (with red instead of the yellow-ish brown, obviously). I think it worked out well, thanks for keeping on to me about it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/FireWarriorHead.jpg

And I redid the group - they look good, uniform, fantasticly compliment the Pathfinders and Battlesuits. I'm very happy with how they look, including the redone rifles.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/FireWarriorGroup2.jpg

Samoth
21-10-2005, 08:23
Looking gret, ecspecially with the barcodes. Keep up the good work! Just wondering... Why didnt you put in for the tale of 8 gamers with this army?

my_name_is_tudor
21-10-2005, 13:54
If i were you I'd go just shade lighter with the skin tone, put a little bit of spacewolf greay into the mix, maybe as an extra level of highlighting.

PS. I thought all the bare heads were optional?

Inquisitor Engel
21-10-2005, 14:33
PS. I thought all the bare heads were optional?

Not in the Devilfish and Fire Warrior box it would seem, although that may have just been me getting screwed with the sprues I got in it.


Why didnt you put in for the tale of 8 gamers with this army?

I didn't know it was going on at the time I started, and alot, and I do mean a lot, of my army is going to be Forge World, or at least FW Elements. That makes it difficult to do in a budget. ;)

I prefer to work at my own pace too. :) I am however, quickly running out of things to paint! :eek:

my_name_is_tudor
21-10-2005, 14:44
Not in the Devilfish and Fire Warrior box it would seem, although that may have just been me getting screwed with the sprues I got in it.


I'm afraid to say that you have been screwed. I got all my firewarriors via the devilfish squad set*, and I didn't have to use any bare heads.. parts missing probably.

*if you get 3 of them and a hammerhead tank sprue, you get 2 12 man firewarrior squads with 'fish, and a hammerhead, for £67 instead of £92, but it seems that the only transport squad they sell now is a composite of 12 FWs and a 'Fish, for £36.. no saving whatsoever..

Inquisitor Engel
21-10-2005, 14:57
*if you get 3 of them and a hammerhead tank sprue, you get 2 12 man firewarrior squads with 'fish, and a hammerhead, for £67 instead of £92, but it seems that the only transport squad they sell now is a composite of 12 FWs and a 'Fish, for £36.. no saving whatsoever..

Mine only came with eight Fire Warriors. :eyebrows:

Tau Devilfish and Fire Warriors - GW Website (http://store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.us?do=List_Models&code=303086&orignav=11&ParentID=253875&GameNav=10)

Seems it's only suppsed to come with eight anyway, in keeping with the other "transport" boxes.

my_name_is_tudor
21-10-2005, 15:23
Yeah, thats the one I bought. But it has been taken down from the UK site in favour of this:

12 FWs and devilfish (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=COMP021401001&orignav=10)

which saves you no money.. and is a waste of time all together. They obviously ran out of boxes, or something.

Malakai
21-10-2005, 17:17
I agree with the poster who said that the helmetless Tau should have a lighter skin tone than their armour. A pale blue would look nice on those guys and you can just work over what you already have done, leaving the darker blue in the recesses for shading.

Malakai

Inquisitor Engel
21-10-2005, 20:12
I agree with the poster who said that the helmetless Tau should have a lighter skin tone than their armour.

I'll consider it, although I'd rather be done with the heads (and maybe just replace them anyway!) and not have to worry about it, other than my Ethereals, who won't be done for a looong time.

Anyway, hope you're all happy with the rifle revision. ;)

Inquisitor Engel
22-10-2005, 05:52
I did my Shas'ui tonight, just two more in the squad to go, both kneeling, pointing weapons.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/FWShasUiA.jpg

I'm very pleased. In the process, I added a Tau 'A' on the shoulder pad, allowing for a differentiation between squads without having to change "barcodes" or anything.

The rest of the squad has also had A's added to their uniform, which I'm pleased about how they look, it's unified, extremely unified.

Now, hopefully I can get some Kroot to work on, as after this squad I'm down to two battlesuits and a Devilfish...

Here's my plan for the Broadside - Using an XV84 suit - Cheap photshop and all!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/BroadsidePlan.jpg

Ideally, the missile pods would be standard ones doubled up, rather than the ones supplied in the Broadside kit, just for uniqueness sake. The heat sinks (the things that cover up the jet packs will be there, but I couldn't find decent enough pics) This conversion will take time, pins, patience, and lots of swearing. I can't wait.

Davian
22-10-2005, 08:10
It looks like it could work... I generally don't particularly like Broadsides with their railguns on the arms, as they usually look like the arms would get blown off from the recoil, but this design looks pretty solid, structurally. If it turns out really well, I might actually have to steal the idea... One thing I've been contemplating is the possibility of clamps which fold down from the Broadsides' legs to anchor it when it fires. Any thoughts/opinions on that?

Anyway, I'm still trying to decide if all this is inspiring because it's so cool, or disheartening because it makes my stuff look like junk by comparison. At any rate, though, I look forward to seeing more.

Samoth
22-10-2005, 10:41
I am however, quickly running out of things to paint! :eek:

Yet another reason to envy you and your tau. :p BTW, my tau were shadow greay repainted over codex grey, so unless you just made your photos extremely dark, mine dont look terribly similar (could never spell that word right) to yours. I'll be doing something with them as more rumours become concrete for the codex.

Inquisitor Engel
22-10-2005, 19:44
This design looks pretty solid, structurally.

It's the reason I was going to go with the FW suits instead of just standard arms, they're beefier looking, and look like it can still contain all the machinery needed to make it fire. There will probably be some plasticard counter-weights beind it, but I'll think about that once I've got the actual model in front of me.


One thing I've been contemplating is the possibility of clamps which fold down from the Broadsides' legs to anchor it when it fires. Any thoughts/opinions on that?

I've thought about it, but I can't see how to do it without it look, well, silly. If you have any ideas, let me know.


Anyway, I'm still trying to decide if all this is inspiring because it's so cool, or disheartening because it makes my stuff look like junk by comparison.

Don't let my stuff stop you. I'm not THAT good, I've just been painting for a long time. There was an article in the Portent Oracle with my first painted miniature (about 10 years ago now).

We only seem to have Issues 1 and 2, and I think it appeared in Issue 3. Shame. Suffice to say, it was terrible.


Yet another reason to envy you and your tau. :p

Well buying so much FW tends to limit what else you can buy. :(

I also only have what I brought from home, the Wood Elves are a lost cause, so when I go home for Christmas I'll be re-doing the carry case to fit my 2 year old 3500 points of unpainted Night Lord! (With lots of FW things!)

Some Kroot might make a welcome change when I'm done with that I have with me.


BTW, my tau were shadow greay repainted over codex grey, so unless you just made your photos extremely dark, mine dont look terribly similar

I imagine yours are much, much lighter than mine - mind posting some pictures some time?

Inquisitor Engel
22-10-2005, 20:50
Behold! I have finished Fire Warrior Squad A! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/FireWarriorA1.jpg

I'm very pleased, very happy. Now I need 4 more to make them a full squad... Oh well. Simple colour palette, simple colour scheme, and no batch painting (which leads to sloppiness IMHO, at least for me)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/FireWarriorA2.jpg

I'm very happy, now, onto the last two battlesuits.

Davian
22-10-2005, 22:41
True, I would say the regular highlighting is about at the same level as my stuff, but the freehanding has much cleaner edges and the gemwork looks a lot better. I've been painting about eight years myself, but I'm just in a bit of a frustrated phase, since things aren't turning out as I envision them. It happens to all of us at one time or another.

Anyway, for the clamp design, crappy photoshopping to the rescue again. The perspective is kind of off, but I think it at least gets the idea across.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c192/nightstorm03/concept.jpg

When it's not in use, it would fold up, flush with the back of the upper leg. An extra joint in the middle might be necessary to keep it from bumping into the jetpack/heatsink, though. The overall aesthetic of the clamp itself would be important too, obviously, and I'm not certain what it would look like yet. Scratchbuilding from plasticard would likely be the best option.

Inquisitor Engel
23-10-2005, 00:39
True, I would say the regular highlighting is about at the same level as my stuff, but the freehanding has much cleaner edges and the gemwork looks a lot better.

The trick to good free handing is going back over it again and fix the non-striaght lines with the base colour. Those Tau "A's" were pretty shoddy before I went back over it with shadow grey, the same goes for the barcodes on the helmets.

Don't get discouraged, go for broke and you'll improve with time.


The overall aesthetic of the clamp itself would be important too, obviously, and I'm not certain what it would look like yet. Scratchbuilding from plasticard would likely be the best option.

I was actually thinking of something like this, for the aesthetic, rather than functionality. I'm sure there would be ways of having it move for movement. ;)

More like an expansion of the rear-ish "toe" on the Battlesuit feet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Footbrace.jpg

Inquisitor Engel
23-10-2005, 03:40
I've been an industrious boy today - Of course that's what happens when I don't have work.

One battlesuit left, and I've got three Kroot Hounds and an Ox, a Devilfish and then I'm out! Hopefully new stuff comes soon, although I'm unsure as to what to buy next. The Broadsides are a very long term idea, so the next up will more than likely be a Hammerhead...

Anyway -

Shas'Vre'T'au'N'Suam'Y'He.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Shasvre22.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Shasvre221.jpg

Don't forget barcodes and letters will be added as soon as I get the transfers in the mail, which may be a while. I won't bore you with shots of each one once I start applying them though. ;)

The dual plasma is a modified version of the one used by Shas'O R'myr. Armed with a twin linked plasma, a Fusion Blaster and Hard wired Target lock. He's quite rockin' in the firepower department.

In hindsight, I should have armed the other Shas'vre in Fireknife, that way I could use him as the Shas'vre for the Crisis Squad, and the XV81 as part of the body guard.

Oh well. I'm happy.

Samoth
23-10-2005, 08:47
I've thought about it, but I can't see how to do it without it look, well, silly. If you have any ideas, let me know.

Not to mention that that would rule out bein able to take the apparent "slow and purposeful" hardware which could potentially be very useful.



I imagine yours are much, much lighter than mine - mind posting some pictures some time?

Yes, and strangely quite so. Unless, as I originally thought, your pictures are darker than they look, then mine are extrodinarily light. Mind, because they were my second army, and most of them have two coats of paint, they arent the best looking mini's around. And that was before I could "acceptably" highlight too. Still, they look good as an army if not individually or for details.

I'd recommend you buy another squad of firewarriors or a squad of kroot before getting a hammerhead, so that you can play games. Mind, if you dont have anyone to play with where you are, I 'spose it doesnt matter...

Inquisitor Engel
23-10-2005, 17:40
Mind, if you dont have anyone to play with where you are, I 'spose it doesnt matter...

I have plenty of people to play against. And by that I mean four in the school of 15,000 students. :p

Ah well.

Davian
23-10-2005, 22:06
That 'extra toe' idea could work. In fact, if you sculpt it at the right angle, in the right shape, it wouldn't even have to move to work. The suit could just lean back onto it. Then, when it wants to walk, it just stands upright, and the support would clear the ground on its own.

Inquisitor Engel
24-10-2005, 00:07
Well, I've finished the other battlesuits.

I guess I need to spray paint my Hammerhead black now, although I may just paint regularly for old-school, smoothness sake. The majority of it will be black, with the centre panels, leading edges and such being shadow grey.

But here we go.

Shas'vre'T'au'Fio'tak'Ka
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/shasvre3-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/shasvre3-21.jpg

And the group, including COmmander Dawnlight.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/CommandGroup.jpg

And a shot of all of the suits togethers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Battlesuits.jpg

I'm really pleased with how well they all blend together, though I may well strip Dawnlight and try and paint him again, as painful as that would be... Ah well, I'm very happy.

MIGHTYPanhead
24-10-2005, 01:50
well, i wouldnt strip him.. he looks too cool!

*and good job, you made me decide to start a tau army with FW battlesuits...:rolleyes:

thanks for the great inspiration

Inquisitor Engel
25-10-2005, 00:29
Just thought I'd post an in-progress shot of the Devilfish.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/DFInprogress.jpg

Before I go any futher, anyone have ideas about ways to highlight the curves, as well as any colour point suggestions?

Shas'El Tael
25-10-2005, 00:49
Firstly, you need some bug spray, see that cockroach in the upper left!? Damn man.. you got a problem. ;P

Admittidly this is a fuzzy picture so some points are hard to make out, however highlighting curves such as the upper shoulders and behind the cockpit, I acutally use a soft drybrush technique., we're talking virtually no paint left on the brush. With soft strokes over the ridges and edges you will get a lighter shade slowly, surely and controlled in the amount and application. I use a large, thick volume, sable brush. Drawn across the paint, brush several times across tissue then 'scuff brushed' over the ridges.. over time (about 15mins of work) you will get soft highlights like this :

(note : the nose, ridges, turret and railgun were all soft highlighted with this technique. I then, using 00 brush, painted the edges of all grooves as a final, stark highlight)

http://www.the-scythes.com/images/tau/vehicles/hhd1.jpg

On another piece of painting tip, ever used ceramic tiles ? I have two large 20cm Sq. pieces and half a dozen 8cm tiles. I can charge through projects, avoiding palette space issues and dried paint getting into my newly mixed colour. Few dollars and a wash up at the end of every session, my only payment.

The Cadre looks great Engel, really like your dark blue scheme, envious of the number of FW suits :)

~ Tael.

http://www.the-scythes.com/tau/vehicles/hhd1.jpg

Inquisitor Engel
25-10-2005, 02:17
The Cadre looks great Engel, really like your dark blue scheme, envious of the number of FW suits :)

A trip to WHW in Nottinham will do wonders to your army, especially if you pay in cash. ;) You just don't realise how much money you're spending. Luckily I stopped myself before I bought a Titan or any of the Tau aircraft! :p

Thanks for the compiments and the tips.

So, for this highlighting, get a "drybrushing amount" of paint and stroke over the curve like if I were painting normally, sort of?

Shas'El Tael
25-10-2005, 02:23
Stroke it across, yes, soft at first just to see how much is adhering and colouring the edges. Possibly harder if you want a brighter highlight. With my hammerhead I was fairly easy on this, so the highlights are very subtle. More noticeable in real life, cameras tend to blend tones.

Another thing I like to do is a wash of your base colour inside the curves, 'deepening' the roundness. This wash is very faded in pigment when watered down, but a couple of strokes through the right areas and you get nice deep transistions.

Here's another image, closer. You can see a very stark highlight paint stroke, I did this to accentuate the cockpit form the dorsal ridge line, also you can see that inner-curve dark tone I wash through;

http://www.the-scythes.com/images/tau/vehicles/hhd_pntd_2.JPG

And if I went to GWHQ, my bank would cancel my card.. :D

~ Tael

MIGHTYPanhead
25-10-2005, 02:43
one way i use to do subtle highlights is using a makeup brush... yes i said it, a makeup brush

y'know those big brushes that are in makeup kits?

using almost the exact same technique as Shas'El Tael, but with a bit less paint

it works well for soft dry-blending IMO (also ink wash highlighting, but you sont need that ;) )

Shas'El Tael
25-10-2005, 02:48
Chuckle,

MightyPanHead, I also use a similar brush, for larger surfaces though. A blush brush is very finely haired, though you have to watch for rogue strands falling off as you dry brush.

MIGHTYPanhead
25-10-2005, 03:37
yeah , i had that problem too.... but only when used on my carnifex, which has a lot of rough edges

i'd expect the first few times you use it on a tau vehicle it'd drop a few, then stop completely as there is really no stress put on the brush

Inquisitor Engel
25-10-2005, 04:39
Well, I tried it, and it didn't end up quite as great a contrast as on the suits or Fire Warriors, but subtlety works well on a larger, curved vehicle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/DevilfishFront.jpg

Thanks for the tips. :)

As with everything else, it'll have white accents once I get my bloody transfers. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/DevilfishRear.jpg

Anyway the rear is done with lots of lights. And that after I discovered the Devilfish has break lights....

Unfortunately, I glued the back shut, possibly because the inside is quite bland compared that of the new SM vehicles... But oh well, not like my Pathfinders have a problem with it.

Now, my Gun Drones will naturally be painted with the same colour, but should I have the inner ring blue, with the outer ring black, creating two blue circles on the sides, or a black inside with blue outer rims, creating two blue rings?

Weirdboy
25-10-2005, 05:31
Wow! Your devilfish looks exactly like mine, except replace the shadow grey with snot green.

Kotobuki
25-10-2005, 05:34
Being that every other similarly shaped surface is blue with a black ring, I'd go that way with it.

Negafex
25-10-2005, 15:44
looks awesome. if you want contrast try putting strips of white on it

Inquisitor Engel
25-10-2005, 16:08
looks awesome. if you want contrast try putting strips of white on it

That's the plan! :D

That's for the suggestion Weirdboy - good point. Circles it is!

Tastyfish
25-10-2005, 22:31
Surely if you want your army to be road legal it needs one orange, white and red light on each side...

Oddly enough my army is also a very similar colour scheme (though I now have fortress/codex grey undersuit with shadow grey plates, wasn't too keen on the original just black version I had). Devilfish is almost an inversion of the one you have (black stripe and shadow grey body) and obviously, fully MOT'd
Any ideas what the large boxy things on the back are, or are they just boxs and going to be left black?

Dawnlight looks fantastic though, just might have to get one of them myself and a dreadnaught base. Not sure I'm up to the Tau letters on it though.

Inquisitor Engel
25-10-2005, 23:03
Surely if you want your army to be road legal it needs one orange, white and red light on each side...

Ah yes. ;) Who knows. Probably the sculptor's in-joke. I can't bring myself to make it taht obviously satyrical. ;) (Classic double pun!)


Any ideas what the large boxy things on the back are, or are they just boxs and going to be left black?

I've never seen them as anything except boxes, and can't think of anything that they could really could be... Suggestions?


Dawnlight looks fantastic though, just might have to get one of them myself and a dreadnaught base. Not sure I'm up to the Tau letters on it though.

He's a spiffy mini to be sure. Minor conversions and part swaps are the order of the day. I didn't attach the antenae, and gave him a different arm, so it depends on what you want to do I suppose. I could see him with an XV89 head too.

As for the letters - Paint white squares and slowly paint the gaps in to make them the letters, I'll use transfers on other models, but these were just so small.

I did actually practice on strips of plasicard first too. That helped no end!

marineowar
26-10-2005, 14:53
Now, my Gun Drones will naturally be painted with the same colour, but should I have the inner ring blue, with the outer ring black, creating two blue circles on the sides, or a black inside with blue outer rims, creating two blue rings?

First thing, this army looks awesome. You've re-inspired me to finish my Tau (one day when I have money:mad: )
But for the Drones, I think it'd be good to have some separation between the drones and the hull. Put the blue on the outside with black on the inside so it'd doesn't merge together.
just my humble opinion.

marineowar

Inquisitor Engel
26-10-2005, 20:02
Finished last night. Now I'm out of things to paint. :cries:

Anyway, here's the finished Devilfish and Pathfinders. I think they work quite well.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/DevilPathtop.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Devilpathfront.jpg

I tried the rings of grey, looked too flimsy, so I went with circles on the drones, I rather like it.

Jahrael
26-10-2005, 21:02
Finished last night. Now I'm out of things to paint. :cries:

I can send you mine to paint for me :D

Inquisitor Engel
27-10-2005, 04:59
I can send you mine to paint for me :D

If you want the same colour scheme, an extremely long wait, we can talk. :p

That's actually one of the best compliments I've ever recieved. If someone likes your painting enough to trust you with painting their models, it means you've arrived at at least "semi-respectable" level. Or at least above "table top quality."

:)

Tastyfish
27-10-2005, 05:03
If you want the same colour scheme, an extremely long wait, we can talk. :p

That's actually one of the best compliments I've ever recieved. If someone likes your painting enough to trust you with painting their models, it means you've arrived at at least "semi-respectable" level. Or at least above "table top quality."

:)
Or knows a really good lawyer...

lordmetroid
27-10-2005, 11:03
What I found dull about the Tau vehicles is there exceptional size and really plastic feeling to them. Don't get me wrong I really like the Tau. But something abouttheir vehicles just doesn't feel right, like they don't belong where they are.

Negafex
27-10-2005, 16:58
i think they look great together, a really fitting paint scheme. and on the note of tau vehicles i like em cause they actually look like they could fit that many fire warriors or pathfinders in it. rhinos, or at least the old ones, definitely dont look like they could house ten marines and the pilots.

methoderik
27-10-2005, 17:45
I love your color Scheme Engel, I hope you do not mind if I steal it. Excellent paintjobs!

Inquisitor Engel
27-10-2005, 17:53
I love your color Scheme Engel, I hope you do not mind if I steal it.

No problem. I do suggest for highlights you experiment with your own mixes though. ;)


Excellent paintjobs!

Thanks much. I expect to see you share too. ;)

XaNder
30-10-2005, 22:22
May I add another tip... when plugging an elbow (as you engel did), especially when you have FW posable stuff, you can try to cut verticaly (or, better, normal to the rotation axe of the Crisis elbow). You can do this even on normal Crisis in order to attain another degree of posability.
At least I did this way mixing R'Myr with standard Crisis and it's really seamless and solid.
As for painting, IMHO you're -at least on some of your minis- on upper levels than table-top. Especially gems are "simply wonderfully simple" (C) :D

Cheers,
XaNder

MIGHTYPanhead
31-10-2005, 02:01
now you've done it engel.... i went and bought myself 3 FW battle suits (2 XV89's and Ry'mir)

i must say again, thanks for the great inspiration, and the kick in the pants to start my tau army :rolleyes:

Inquisitor Engel
31-10-2005, 03:15
now you've done it engel.... i went and bought myself 3 FW battle suits (2 XV89's and Ry'mir)

i must say again, thanks for the great inspiration, and the kick in the pants to start my tau army :rolleyes:

Good purchases, I'm waiting on the next paycheck to order the XV84's for the Broadsides.

And for my car payment to go out this week before buying anything else.:cries:

Glad I've inspired you though. :)

boogle
01-11-2005, 14:56
I thought you said you had a krootox?

Keravin
01-11-2005, 21:12
How did you convert the arms and legs on the Battlesuits? Clean cut at the joint or just the front half?

my_name_is_tudor
01-11-2005, 22:35
theyre forgeworld arms - poseable.

Inquisitor Engel
01-11-2005, 22:40
theyre forgeworld arms - poseable.

Fully posable. ;)

The FW suit arms come in three peices - Upper arm and shoulder, an elbow joint which allows both horizontal and vertical movement, and the lower arm, where the weapon attaches to the suit.

They're wonderful peices of design.

my_name_is_tudor
01-11-2005, 23:10
You should see the pose I've got on my commander, leaning right forwards almost running through the air, its fantastic.. took me a lot of blu tack to get the pose right though :P

XaNder
02-11-2005, 10:14
Fully posable. ;)

The FW suit arms come in three peices - Upper arm and shoulder, an elbow joint which allows both horizontal and vertical movement, and the lower arm, where the weapon attaches to the suit.

Why did you use all that greenstuff on the TL plasma if you worked with whole FW kits (and not gw separated arms)?

Keravin
02-11-2005, 13:26
Fully posable. ;)

The FW suit arms come in three peices - Upper arm and shoulder, an elbow joint which allows both horizontal and vertical movement, and the lower arm, where the weapon attaches to the suit.

They're wonderful peices of design.

Oh god I really don't need incentives to buy more FW stuff.

Just about managed to convince my wife and family to buy me Elysians for xmas.

Brother Bob
02-11-2005, 14:19
They look awesome!
makes me wanna finish my tau :)
keep it up and those battlesuits are soo sweet!

~BB~

Inquisitor Engel
02-11-2005, 16:33
Why did you use all that greenstuff on the TL plasma if you worked with whole FW kits (and not gw separated arms)?

I originally assembled Dawnlight (My Commander) with a the Twin Linked plasma during playtesting of the new Tau Codex, and the weapon was converted into another weapon entirely, or in the process of doing so. (You'll notice it's missing it's plasma bottles)

I decided I'd prefer Dawnlight to have a much more "Commander" rather than actual offensive role at one point, and thus had to break the resin to change the arms and give the now-back-to-twin-linked plasma rifles to his Shas'vre.

It wasn't that big a deal really, just one of the minor inconveniences of working with resin, once you've stuck it, you're stuck!

Inquisitor Engel
03-11-2005, 02:30
http://cgi.ebay.com/Huge-Warhammer-40000-Tau-Army-Lot_W0QQitemZ6010382266QQcategoryZ774QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem

:eek:

It's my colour scheme! Which one of you stole it, painted a whole army, and decided to sell it on eBay? ;)

Anyway - At least I know that using Shadow Grey sashes on red Kroot is a bad idea...

montka O
03-11-2005, 04:10
the army on ebay is nothing comperd to yours
you have inspired me:D

yerpo
03-11-2005, 08:16
Dude, that noob on E-bay doesn't deserve to call his army painted. As I suspected, he would be using the word pro-painted somewhere in the text (strangely enough, it's not in the title). About the only thing that deserves the tabletop-quality mark are his Stealth suits. So don't you worry and just consider this army to be nonexistent.

highmarshaldave
03-11-2005, 11:09
now you've done it engel.... i went and bought myself 3 FW battle suits (2 XV89's and Ry'mir)

Same here mate, same here. I'd say "Damn you Engel!" but, since these are quite possibly some of THE best mini's I've ever built (along with the FW Elysians), I have no regrets about spending over £60 on them. Who knows, I may even bung some photos on. . .

Dave.

marineowar
03-11-2005, 12:00
How that can be called "painted" is quite beyond me. I wouldn't pay $5 for it.

And check out the pic with Aun'Shi in it. How he fights with that Honour Blade is amazing.

highmarshaldave
03-11-2005, 12:02
Actually, I'm loving the "Golden Demon" Termys. They could easily have come away with the slayer sword. No question. . .

Dave out.

XaNder
06-11-2005, 20:05
I originally assembled Dawnlight (My Commander) with a the Twin Linked plasma during playtesting of the new Tau Codex, and the weapon was converted into another weapon entirely, or in the process of doing so. (You'll notice it's missing it's plasma bottles)

OH! :p :D
I see... It's always a mess playtesting :D. Anyhow... Those are cool models!
Cheers,
XaNder

Sildani
14-11-2005, 00:57
Well, the Shadowsun model has just about sold me on creating a small Tau force. I saw it and an image of Major Kusanagi in her Tachikoma, from the anime Ghost in the Shell: Stand alone Complex flashed through my head. Give Batou an FW Broadside, and Saito a sniper drone team, and I'm just about there.

I'll wait for the Codex to come out and see how viable my vision is, but in the meantime, I'd appreciate thoughts on how I can pull this off, model-and-paint scheme wise. I'm not trying to hijack your thread Engel, truly I'm not, but this does seem a suitable starting point! I'd rather like a "real-world" scheme, as that's what Section 9 is about - a futuristic military FBI in Japan, blue Tachikomas aside.

Fans of the series (Engel, might you be one?), Tau lovers, please, help me out!

boogle
22-11-2005, 22:49
I'll most likely do a small Farsight Enclave list based on ML Kurze's Farsight list, most likely no more than 1000 points

BTW Engel, have you managed to get anymore purchases in?

Negafex
22-11-2005, 23:11
well, sildani, a realistic color scheme would probably be urban camo, outdoors camo, or something with lots of blacks and greys, and possibly metals. ive painted tau for three years now and know that metal usually doesnt look good but camo does. all in all stick to nuetral colors

Sildani
23-11-2005, 23:26
Hmm, yeah... good idea Negafex.

Negafex
24-11-2005, 00:28
good colors can always be found at the source. i just watched ghost in the shell and took the colors of their uniforms. its always a good idea to check popular media related to the subject for color ideas

Zabuza
05-12-2005, 18:38
Wow. That's really similar to my color scheme. Except I use white in place of black.

Awesome work. I am truly jealous of your FW battlesuits, I only have one =(

-Zabuza-

winggundamz
10-12-2005, 00:43
sweet painting I like it beter than most pro painted peices

sulla
17-12-2005, 00:16
good colors can always be found at the source.


Good idea... set off for the Tau empire at once!:p

Mars
22-12-2005, 10:44
Congratulations, very nice thread. Inspires me to buy some Forge World stuff myself (note sure if that'll be easy when you live in Belgium). As well as to convert my own stuff (especially my commander), and start a thread as well.

And I'll be sure to rip some of your ideas :D ("if looking for a good idea, look at what other people have done").

Jedi152
22-12-2005, 10:58
http://cgi.ebay.com/Huge-Warhammer-40000-Tau-Army-Lot_W0QQitemZ6010382266QQcategoryZ774QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem

:eek:

It's my colour scheme! Which one of you stole it, painted a whole army, and decided to sell it on eBay? ;)
Look on the bright side: these (http://i3.ebayimg.com/02/i/05/5b/7b/27_1.JPG) are the "Pro-Painted chaos terminators" he's offering free.

Inquisitor Engel
06-02-2006, 02:50
'Lo all!

Thanks to 75Hastings69, I've got my hands on one of the old Limited Edition Ethereals, much to my pleasure. A lot less problematic to paint than I expected, but I do have some advice questions!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/S2010028.jpg (http://photobucket.com)

Sorry for the slightly blurry pics but my normal lights are down so my camera can't quite focus correctly.

What colour should I paint the badges of office? (His sticks) I think black would just melt against the rest of the body, but I'd like to avoid the red in the Fire Caste in my army, but at the same time don't want to use much metallic paint on it.

So - what colour, and what think you all of the colour scheme so far?

MIGHTYPanhead
06-02-2006, 03:18
white would look pretty nice, though given the nature of painting white.. maybe aome other semi-neutral colour.. eg. light greys

i don't see ethereals as the eccentric type, and they benefit from neutral colours

also, i like how it looks so far! :) even with the black weapons it looks good, not too OTT like some ethereal's i've seen

Inquisitor Engel
06-02-2006, 05:02
Grey it is. I'm was a little concerned with how the sticks might blend into the collar being any shade of grey, but a lighter shade on the collar worked out well.

I did change the colour on the dangly things from gold to white, going for a more understated look than they gold gave off.

I also painstakingly added some Tau letters to his staffs, as there are no obvious lines to give them grips. Unlike Commander Dawnlight, they don't SAY anything. One side says "Tau" (not T'au) and the other just has random strokes that look a bit like letters. ;)

Enjoy. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/EtherealFinished.jpg

Oh - and his cape isn't purple, that's just glare. ;)

Pertinax
06-02-2006, 07:39
Is that a new paint job you have on the Ethereal? I'm just confused by the date on the photo...

Inquisitor Engel
06-02-2006, 16:50
Yeah, wow.... Ignore the date it is wrong. Took it last night. ;)

ghost hunter
13-02-2006, 09:33
dude i hope you are using all those forge world suits as normal ones you can only have one of each in an army and only on comander exept in shas o rymrs bodyguard

athamas
13-02-2006, 11:58
i expect he is,

the suits are so nice it would be worth it..

that and the look so very very cool!

boogle
13-02-2006, 19:18
dude i hope you are using all those forge world suits as normal ones you can only have one of each in an army and only on comander exept in shas o rymrs bodyguard
i think as he helped playtest the codex, he would be aware of the restrictions

highmarshaldave
13-02-2006, 20:33
i think as he heped playtest the codex, he would be aware of the restrictions

lmao, succinct as ever mate. Nice to see the army shaping up, engel. I look forward to seeing a manta squadron painted in your colours. . .

Dave out.

Ooh, totaly off the topic point but. . . At uni (Heriot-Watt, Edinburgh) the alternative music society (GLAM) has a member called Engel, the events and get-together prganiser. Are you, or are you not, said same gas mask wearing bloke?

boogle
14-02-2006, 13:28
Engel lives in the US (but does visit his relatives here)

highmarshaldave
16-02-2006, 10:42
Aah well, fair do's. . .

Dave out.

Samoth
16-02-2006, 14:07
Hey engel, seeing as you have both the suits in question, could you take a look at this (http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25461) thread?

Cheers, and to anyone else who can help (thread full of tau fans and all).

Inquisitor Engel
17-02-2006, 03:56
dude i hope you are using all those forge world suits as normal ones you can only have one of each in an army and only on comander exept in shas o rymrs bodyguard

I'm using them as stand-ins just because they're better looking, but in a pinch I can use them as their IA:III TC rules if I really want to, if I wanted a suit-light force for example. (The new Codex is more than flexible enough to have a single suit and still be competitive.)

Flame of Udun
19-02-2006, 02:14
Dude, that is a really, really smart looking army! It looks so slick and coherent! And once again you have caused a lapsed Tau fan to go looking for all the bits he's never bothered with! I will most certainly be purchaing some FW battle suits as they look far superior to the bog standard GW ones including the new commander! Thanks for the inspiration :D

BTW do you have a painting time table you keep to or whatever as I'm really bad at starting a project but end up getting bored and starting another one. :(

Inquisitor Engel
21-02-2006, 05:18
BTW do you have a painting time table you keep to or whatever as I'm really bad at starting a project but end up getting bored and starting another one. :(

I do my stuff a squad at a time.

To be honest, I try to just finish a guy a day at the minimum, but I think if I do a whole squad it'll be messy.

The suits take a little bit longer, two days-ish.

I'm a student, and I work full time, so I rarely get too much time to just sit down and paint. Limiting yourself to a few models at a time makes it rewarding without being monotonous. :)

Getting things done on a deadline though (My Ultramarines for example...) that's a different story.

Kurai
23-02-2006, 15:49
I really need to get my hands on that old LE Ethereal. It is so much better than the new one. Or any of the other Ethereals ever made. How about a shot of your entire force so far?

Inquisitor Engel
18-03-2006, 04:35
So the army deal arrive today and after a fun-filled day of packing I've assembled everything I needed in it and have manged to come up with an ACCEPTABLE paint scheme for my Vespid. Tried brown, bone and green and it just didn't work.

I have a spare box of Vespid if anyone wants them (preferably for new Stealth Suits ;)). I can't go trade them in anywhere since they didn't come shrink wrapped... Unlike everything else I didn't need...

I present, the first Vespid.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Vespid13fourths.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/VespidFW.jpg

The detail is absolutely tiny, the comparison should tell you that much. Good luck to those that go for the resculpting... Drybrushing works well too.

I'm not entirely satisfied with the level of painting on it, but hopefully that'll improve by the time I'm done with the 12 of them...

Oh, and Kroot are still GW's most difficult to assemble models EVER. :mad:

Orcdom
18-03-2006, 13:20
not necessairly difficult to assemble, damned difficult to convert because of no open hands. i have a 100 odd of the buggers, the krootox is miserable to assemble because of the horrible gap down its belly and back

Steve

Inquisitor Engel
19-03-2006, 03:55
The first Kroot. They're not as easy to paint as I first imagined (despite playing Tau before now, this is the first ones I've actually finished. The details are there, it's just a matter of picking them out.

I went with something natural, so it doesn't quite fit into the army as smoothly as everything else, however I'm happy and the Shadow Grey cloth ties it to the rest of the army.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Kroot1Front.jpg

Orcdom
19-03-2006, 14:10
dipping works great for Kroot:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/orcdom/Kroot/KrootVulture01.jpg
Steve

Inquisitor Engel
19-03-2006, 23:03
I live in a dorm, dipping isn't an option, I don't really have an outside. :(

Orcdom
20-03-2006, 00:18
mine, i heavily brushed on the varnish, and then dried my brush off on paper towel, then pulled off the varnish excesses, gravity and dry time does the rest, when i painted mine it was 30 odd degrees F out side when i did mine, so outside was not an option for me either.

Steve

tzeentchgiant
20-03-2006, 00:22
*Subscribes*

I love the vespid, very cool, and may I say, I'm most impressed with your progress, kudos :).

TG

Inquisitor Engel
20-03-2006, 01:32
*Subscribes*

I'm flattered. :)

I'm varying what I do, so as not to get bored. Doing a unit at a time tends to get... well... boring. And tedious.

So here's the first Stealth Suit.

It took a while to figure out a suitable colour scheme for it. I needed the black to be predominant, but I didn't want the grey to even have that much of an impact.

I'm happy with the scheme I came up with.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Stealth1.jpg

And for those who say "New Stealths are no bigger than Fire Warriors!" I give you: THE COMPARISON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/StealthComparison.jpg

Warboss Garfang
20-03-2006, 02:17
They look much better next to other Tau figures than by themselves, but I'm still a bigger fan of the older suits.

Nice paintjob, though. Came out extremely well balanced, nice work.

bloodwraith
20-03-2006, 02:18
Darn, lucky sod. The new suits aren't out here till july.

Inquisitor Engel
20-03-2006, 03:20
Darn, lucky sod. The new suits aren't out here till july.

Army deal. ;)

highmarshaldave
20-03-2006, 21:18
Army deal. ;)

Said with a cockiness rating of 11. . .

Nice models mate, the colour scheme for your Stealths has worked well and your kroot are simply greeeaaaaaaaat!

Dave out.

Inquisitor Engel
21-03-2006, 04:23
your kroot are simply greeeaaaaaaaat!

Well thanks. I've decided I want to avoid dipping to avoid getting lazy. ;) No offense, it's just in my nature to follow a pattern.

Finished a Strain leader today, with smaller wings, simply for variety. I may switch the wings to the correct models they need to be at some point, but for now I'm happy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Strainleader.jpg

Going home for spring break tomorrow, so nothing till next Monday at least. Don't miss my models too much. :)

New Cult King
21-03-2006, 05:20
Looking very cool. That's a great scheme for Tau, and looks very good on the Stealth Suit.

I'm still not sold on the Vespid models, but you've made that one look pretty sweet, the red gun sets it off nicely.

Kurai
06-04-2006, 00:32
Subscribing. I use a similar paint scheme. Right now I'm testing to paint a Vespid with yellow edges on it's carapace. Kind of bee-warning.

ALF
20-04-2006, 20:23
Awesome work!

Right now I have a ton of Tau and am contemplating the paint scheme.. I did start with Shadow Grey, Codex Grey, & white but after seing all the sudden similar schemes.. even the new codex.. I'm thinking of changing that.. ( I only have a squad and a half of Crisis suits painted so its not too late for me to change.. but then again it took me long enough to decide on this scheme so I might continue with it.

With all the models I have I find it hard to keep focused on one thing for any long period of time.. Most are assembled, Base coated and primaries started on already.. any pointers for staying focused on one thing at a time?

I also have a bunch of FW suits.. They Rock!

Inquisitor Engel
22-05-2006, 05:13
Well lads, I've returned.

Appologies for the break in painting, I've had to work a bunch and then I had exam and this past week I've been catching up with some friends from High School. I expect I'll get a good portion of the army done this Summer, so expect more regular updates!

First off, I did a bit of a trade in at the "local" GW and traded some Battlesuits and Commanders (Forgeworld only here!) for three Piranhas and Shadowsun. I'd have got more, but there were only individual boxes of Piranhas, not the squadron box which was a free one.

Anyway, I set about converting Shadowsun into a more appropriate pose rather than the cack one she was given from sculpt. It was very very simple, a little clip at the foot, bend at the knee and foot and some greenstuff under-head detail.

Not decided how she'll be painted yet. The Codex-prescribed amoutn of white frankly scares the crap out of me, yet she should be distinctive from the rest of the army. Suggestions are welcome.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/ShadowsunConversionside.jpg
Three fourths.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Shadowsunfront.jpg
Front.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/shadowsunrear.jpg
And proving I didn't just cut her foot off. :)

Inquisitor Engel
22-05-2006, 05:28
I've also finished my Sniper Drone Squadron. Even though I loved the buggers in playtesting (Especially when you could have nine independent drones and three independent controllers, and markerlights effected other markerlights... That was fun!) I think one squadron is enough for now.

Interesting to paint though, especially the spotter. Quite a bit of redundant detail, but would be almost impossible to paint before being put together in most cases... Oh well.

I'm waiting on the Urban Basing kit to do my bases, the resin peices alone are probably worth the $15 it costs. It should complete them fairly soon. Not sure if I'm going to base my flying bases though... advice?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/SniperTeam.jpg

The team together. The drone on the lowest stand has issues staying on the stands, since I didn't glue them in for storage purposes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/SniperDrone.jpg

Just a drone. I figured shots of each drone would be redundant. They have different markings, but are otherwise all painted the same and almost to the Codex scheme, with Shadow Grey instead of the orangy-brown. It looked good, so why change it?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/SniperSpotterright.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/SniperSpotterleft.jpg

The Spotter. I may change the letter on the front later to something else. I felt the spotting console itself lacked something, so I added that. I'm tempted to add the spare sight I have from the Piranhas, since it might actually make it make sense then...

Anyway, that's all till next time! Happy painting!

Unique1
22-05-2006, 07:11
Looking nice. I like your colour scheme.

Is it just me or are the sniper drones almost impossible to assemble?

Calgar
22-05-2006, 08:59
Looking good!

But what kind of basing are you going to do?

Inquisitor Engel
22-05-2006, 16:31
Thanks for the compliments.


Is it just me or are the sniper drones almost impossible to assemble?

They're a bit of a pain, yes. I managed it with some greenstuff to fill in any gaps left from casting and a good dash of superglue. They require a hell of a lot of patience, but are solid once they're done.


But what kind of basing are you going to do?

Cityfight, as I said, I'm waiting for the Urban Basing kit to be released. Some of the resin stuff is just too good to pass up.

pompeyladbfp
22-05-2006, 16:42
yeah looking good wishing i did my tau in some sort of camo rather than bright white, but heh they do look puuuurdy

Inquisitor Engel
01-06-2006, 03:10
yeah looking good wishing i did my tau in some sort of camo rather than bright white, but heh they do look puuuurdy

I'd hardly call it camo. It's more of a theme than anything else, they strike a nice "Come to me, I'll shoot you" contrast in jungles. Besides, we all know Tau cities are porcelain white anyway...

I finished the second Fire Warrior Squad, 12 members this time. The next box will be divided up. Four will go to squad A and the other eight will be made into Jaffa style bodyguards for the Ethereal, with some inspiration taken from Aun'va's guards (the styling of the chest peice). Of course, this will require extensive work, which means it might never happen. That's just the plan.

Rather than bore you with the entire squad one by one, I decided a basic onceover will do.

Squad B!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/SquadB.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/ShasuiShoulder.jpg
Going off of the recent WD article, both Shas'ui's got an inverted shoulder pad and a bit of marking to denote their true purpose past the basic bonding knife.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/LookofDeath.jpg
I like this pose. If anything big (eg, Carnifexes, large Orks, etc) is going to kill one instand death, he shall be it. He just has such a wonderful "Oh ****,"-looking-up-at-his-doom quality to him.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/TheBadass.jpg
I just like this pose. Nothing in the other arm, just a very macho pose.

Well... macho for a Tau.

Going to GW to pick up some urban basing kits tomorrow. Yay for resin detail!

MIGHTYPanhead
01-06-2006, 03:21
So, we actually get to see stuff based now? Great! :p

The firewarriors are awesome, 'specially like the details on the 'ui.

Inquisitor Engel
02-06-2006, 15:19
So, we actually get to see stuff based now? Great! :p
You might. I took my parents to the airport at 9am and wandered around the nearby mall for an hour waiting for GW to open (It's a two hour drive, so it was a good excuse) and when they did there were NO URBAN BASING KITS IN. :mad:

Apparently when they say "released on" that means things get delievered that same day. Around noon. Not when they open. *curses GW's logistics department*

I just hope when I pick my parents up on Sunday they still have some. :(

marneus54
16-11-2007, 01:01
WOW!!! I love these suits!!!! i must have one!!! where did you get the bits for them?

Nefa
16-11-2007, 08:02
FW Crisis suits are awesome. I'm also going to order some (well maybe 6-10 of them) to expand my Tau army.

Earlier you were wondering on how to make stealth suits more "stealthy". As answer to that I posted picture of my wip stealths below. It might help, as we have almost identical colour schemes. Sorry for low quality of my picture.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/Tomiham/Stealth1.jpg

Inquisitor Engel
04-06-2008, 08:13
*cracks fingers*

Alright, I suppose being done with school (and currently jobless, anyone need a Journalist?) has got me back on the wagon. Seems to happen every time a new edition begins to rear its head...

You'll notice most of this army hasn't been updated since the release of the Codex, but I've decided to go for "longest time for a thread to be updated with relevant information." And I above all abide by the holiest rule of geekdom - [booming voice]It is always better to contribute to an existing thread than start a new one.[/booming voice]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2550682238_4784efd1c6_o.jpg

Long story short, I'm a bit out of practice so before going full-tilt with fine lines and solid highlighting on required units with some drybrushing and mild details on a unit I won't use that much. Kroot.

This I completed tonight. Finally.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3152/2549859947_b900a2fd6c_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3258/2549859385_601ca19efb_o.jpg

These were completed a long time ago and finding the right mix of paint again is ridiculously difficult.

For the record, it's basecoat Black, then a dark brown of your choice, then Dark Angels Green, followed by Graveyard Earth and finally a VERY light highlight of Bleached Bone. I occasionally rehighlighted with green or brown as needed to lighten/darken the tone.

Can't tell the difference now!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2549861947_783599d28a_o.jpg

Watch this space for more pics of me getting back in the groove...

Thud
04-06-2008, 21:41
They're a bit of a pain, yes. I managed it with some greenstuff to fill in any gaps left from casting and a good dash of superglue. They require a hell of a lot of patience, but are solid once they're done.

Then I guess I'm a really lucky bastard with mine, as they went together easy as nothing. In fact, they were the best fit I've ever worked with. :cool:

Great job on the painting scheme. I originally had my Tau army similar in colour to yours, but it looked absolutely horrible, so I went with a brown/tan theme instead. You've pulled it off brilliantly, though. Kudos.

Kurai
04-06-2008, 23:27
Two years later there is an update! :) Brilliant. The kroot look pretty much how I would imagine them.

Inquisitor Engel
05-06-2008, 06:25
Two years later there is an update! :) Brilliant. The kroot look pretty much how I would imagine them.

Thanks. :) And thanks for the compliment Thud - this is actually my second Tau army, I bought into a big one when the Tau first came out which was a similar, but less well executed colour scheme.

Experimentation is the key to success. ;) As is selling old armies on eBay.

Only 13, two Kroothounds and a Krootox left. :cries:

Inquisitor Engel
14-06-2008, 06:41
Alright I've finally done an inventory of what actually needs completing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/IMG_4328.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/IMG_4329.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/IMG_4331.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/IMG_4333.jpg

Touchup required -
1x Devilfish - Transfers only) (Not pictured)
24x Firewarriors - Need to add white stripes to guns. (Not pictured)

Undercoated -
1 x Commander Shadowsun
12x Kroot (Not pictured)
1 x XV25 Stealth Suit (Not pictured)

Built and need all painting -
1 x Hammerhead
3 x Piranhas
3 x Shield%

Inquisitor Engel
15-06-2008, 20:14
I know I said I wasn't going to update until I was done with the Kroot Squad but I completed the Krootox and was very pleased with the result.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/ox2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/ox.jpg

And some shots of the so-far-finished group.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/Groupwox1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/groupwox2.jpg

I'm perhaps most pleased with how well it blends with the group while being darker, but only slightly. Getting the rider the same tone as the other warriors was much more difficult than I originally anticipated given how much I love drybrushing...

Anyway, I'm happy. Generally above most people's tabletop quality around here so, hurrah.

I'm considering splitting the 16 Kroot into two different squads that can be put together when needed. One with the Krootox and one with Kroot Hounds, since the new rules for wound allocation mean the larger unit size won't really save anything so I might as well get some flexibility out of it.

Now I just need to figure out another symbol for the others.

aperfectcharm
17-06-2008, 16:21
Wow, very impressive. Can't wait to see more!

Inquisitor Engel
30-06-2008, 05:55
Behold!

The Kroot are DONE! Also finished is a Piranha and another one that had the spray paint a little close to it and is all bumpy now. When a replacement is purchased it'll be DESTROYED by something and turned into terrain.

Because that's the cool thing to do.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/HoundSquad.jpg

This will be expanded to make it a minimum size (one with Kroothounds and one with the Krootox) Note the different squad logo. 5th Edition pretty much demands this flexibility.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/HoundSquad2.jpg

And now the entire group!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/FinalSquad.jpg

Note the darker Ox and the lighter hounds. For the time being I'm very happy. I've never been very good with organic tones, even skin kills me (had to file the paint off my Lysander-based Ultramarine Captain!) so to get the consistent tones and natural shading I managed to get.

People have done better, but I sure haven't.

Pictures of the Piranha and Hammerhead soon. Sans decals.

Chaos Dude
30-06-2008, 13:07
Those kroots looks great Engel, and that's pretty impressive since I often dislike the kroots apperance. Have you planned any special list yet or are you just completing all your minis?

Inquisitor Engel
30-06-2008, 17:41
Those kroots looks great Engel, and that's pretty impressive since I often dislike the kroots apperance. Have you planned any special list yet or are you just completing all your minis?

Just completing all my mini's to be honest. I'm waiting for a more consistent cash flow and the ability to buy some Broadsides to REALLY say I'm done. Probably just two and two other XV89's and some switchery with arms so Dawnlight's bodyguard is consistent with his armour.

The thing with an army list is that with 5th Edition just around the corner anything I write up now will need to be changed as soon as I read the rulebook. Once I'm done with that I'll look at it again.

aperfectcharm
03-07-2008, 06:26
Very nice job on the faces. Better than what I can do - love your work!

Lord Cook
06-07-2008, 00:19
Excellent work. Great colour scheme in particular.

Inquisitor Engel
14-12-2008, 07:48
Phew, I know it's been a while, but I think it's time. I've been a tad distracted by my Imperial Fists to take pics, but better ones will be taken soon.

I've completed the Tau army. I've entirely given up on the Vespid, added another Fire Warrior squad and I've been having some battles with my friend's Dark Angels. He's been playing two months and he's already whipped up 1700 points of painted minis!

The first pics are my Ultramarines, as that was his intro game.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/IMG_0138.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/IMG_0139.jpg

And the most recent battle this past Wednesday.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/IMG_0172.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/IMG_0173.jpg

For his first army, I'm VERY impressed. Now I just need to get him equally addicted to here...





Now he's buying my Vespid for his new Tau army!

Inquisitor Engel
14-12-2008, 07:55
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/IMG_0175.jpg

Sniper drones managed to do the following all game - Miss markerlight shots for two turns. Die.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/IMG_0176.jpg

The Hammerhead took Man of the Match. Killed an entire Scout Sniper squad, the LR Crusader, half the Deathwing squad, the remains of a Company Veterans squad AND a Chaplain in Terminator Armour.... wicked. Granted it was my friend's third game, but you know, he's learning. :) He abandoned his own objective on the last turn by accident, I claimed one and he only contested one, had he not moved his tactical squad, he's have won by a contest!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/IMG_0179.jpg

The Kroot managed to hack down the entire Assault Squad. Then they were shot to bits by the Deathwing and a tactical squad...

Anyway, things are progressing!

I have two XV-88-2's and two more XV-89's coming, but plan on switching the weapons, having the curved, more advanced bodies to be my commander's bodyguard, as the styles would match.

For anyone who knows, are the 88-2 arms the same modular bit like the XV89's? (Do I just need to switch the lower arms between the two?)

MIGHTYPanhead
14-12-2008, 21:27
For anyone who knows, are the 88-2 arms the same modular bit like the XV89's? (Do I just need to switch the lower arms between the two?)

Having both, I can answer this!

the 88-2 arms are somewhat different, they have the shoulder armor separate, and two ball joint ends, instead of having the elbow joint split in two like the 89.

If you wanted to use the 88-2 lower arms with the 89 shoulders (or vice-versa), you'll have to do some modification.

hope it helps a bit :)

Inquisitor Engel
15-12-2008, 00:43
If you wanted to use the 88-2 lower arms with the 89 shoulders (or vice-versa), you'll have to do some modification.


Rats. I was afraid of that, but it's not exactly unexpected, the Rail Rifles are of course quite a heavier than the standard weapons.

I'll take a closer look on Christmas Day and we'll see. Here's hoping!

Inquisitor Engel
29-12-2008, 04:43
Christmas presents! :D

I was planning on switching out the bodies with the 89's and the 88-2's, but it seems that's not really possible without extensive conversion work that I'm unwilling to go through on FW models (not exactly easy to replace or fix otherwise) so I'll stick with it.

Since I have an anti-tank/anti-marine squad and an all-rounder squad, so I thought that an anti-infantry squad is the way to go.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/_MG_4658.jpg

One walking.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/_MG_4659.jpg

One just landing, clearing a building.

And the first of the two broadsides. I went for a slightly more badass pose than the guns really provide for, all the ball and socket nonsense is kind of a cheat as there's not a whole lot you really can do with the arms...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/britboyinTx/Tau/_MG_4660.jpg

It's a very 'Gundam' pose.

Snake Pliskin
04-01-2009, 06:08
How are you going to base your tau?

Slipstream
04-01-2009, 06:25
Ahhhh, very nice. Mayhaps I should make the drive up from Austin to say 'hi', play a few games, and get obliterated. :D

--Brian