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26-02-2008, 23:44
I have never really been able to find much info on the Crimson Fists. The article in the last White Dwarf rekindled some old thoughts of mine and I got out my old CF army.

I hadn't even heard of Pedro Kantor til this article. And the only other things I knew about them was some story about how Captain Cortez had gone missing and that CF absolutely hate orks. Now, Maybe I've dreamt this part up but I feel like I've read some stories about the chapter trying to go find Cortez. Maybe it was just a company looking for him. Either way, can anyone point me in the direction of some good CF lore so I can start adding onto my old army again?


26-02-2008, 23:54
Crimson Fists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Fists)

26-02-2008, 23:56
Well, I guess I should've have looked in the most obvious place on the net before asking on here. Figures. Thanks.

26-02-2008, 23:59
The biggest and most reliable source of information is Index Astartes Vol IV, a publication sold by GW. It has an Index Astartes article about the Crimson fists. Beyond that...

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Fists)...

Foundation and Crusade

Although initially resistant to the ideals of the Codex Astartes, the Primarch, Rogal Dorn of the Imperial Fists Legion eventually relented, and allowed for his Legion to be split into three, one thousand marine strong, Chapters. The Crimson Fists were made up primarily of the Space Marines who had only recently been initiated into the Legion.

* It should be noted that there was a Fourth Chapter Created from this Legion called the Soul Drinkers but they were declared Excommunicate Traitoris, and were struck from the annals of history, the chapter's name deleted from the scrolls of honour in the Halls of Heroes and wiped from the memories of the Archivum Imperialis. This is disputed by some see Soul Drinkers Contradiction

The Crimson Fists were a crusading chapter for nine thousand years, like their brother Chapter the Black Templars. Unlike the Black Templars, the Crimson Fists showed a more rigid adherence to the Codex Astartes, and tended to maintain close ties with the Loki sector. It wasn't until almost eight hundred years into the 40th millennium that the Crimson Fists were granted rights to a homeworld, Rynn's World in the Loki sector. The proximity of Rynn's World to one of the Crimson Fists primary recruiting worlds was ideal, and the Chapter constructed their fortress-monastery in the middle of an inhospitable mountain range.

The Rynn's World Incident

In the 989th year of the 41st millennium, an Ork Warlord known as Snagrod, the Arch-Arsonist of Charadon, united many of the warring Ork factions surrounding the Loki sector and began a massive Waaagh! Taking several colonies with minimal resistance, Snagrod boasted that his next conquest would be Rynn's World.

In response, the Fourth Company of the Crimson Fists was sent to stall the Waaagh! and gauge its strength. The size of Snagrod's forces had been significantly underestimated, and only a few Space Marines escaped to relay vital intelligence back to Chapter Master Kantor. Kantor ordered the immediate recall of all Crimson Fists, and set about organising the defences of Rynn's World.

When Snagrod's Waaagh! hit Rynn's World, it was with a force unseen since the Second War for Armageddon. During the initial invasion of Rynn's World, a great tragedy befell the Crimson Fists.

A single missile, launched by one of the planetary defence installations, faltered in its trajectory and struck the Crimson Fists fortress monastery. The missile managed to strike an unknown weak point in the fortress' design, detonating the Chapter's entire arsenal of weapons. The resultant explosion levelled the monastery, the mountain it rested on, and wiped out everything within a half mile's radius. Of the forces stationed around and within the monastery, there were just over a dozen survivors, Kantor among them.

The survivors, forced to move stealthily through territory captured by the Orks, were able to link up with a detachment of Crimson Fists assigned to defend Rynn's World's capital, New Rynn City. Taking command of the Imperial forces, Kantor was able to eventually repulse the Orks from Rynn's World, although the siege of New Rynn City lasted eighteen months, and the effort to cleanse the planet took many years.

The Aftermath

The Rynn's World Incident resulted in many losses by the Crimson Fists, with the Chapter almost wiped out completely. As a result, Kantor's primary focus is rebuilding the Chapter, while the Crimson Fists can only be fielded as infiltration-size squads. Snagrod's Waaagh! has induced a deep hatred of Orks within the Chapter, and it is said that Crimson Fists Marines will go to any lengths to defeat any Ork forces they encounter.


The Crimson Fists are classified as a Codex Chapter, because they are strict followers of the holy tome with only a few minor variants. A catastrophic event in the Chapter's history, either the Rynn's World Incident or the wars fought by the Chapter during the Age of Apostasy, left only 128 survivors. Since that time the Crusade Company (First Company) has always numbered 128 Space Marines.

Since the Crimson Fists started as a crusading Chapter, they always had access to a large, well maintained fleet of starships. Although many vessels were lost over Rynn's World, the surviving fleet was more than capable of entangling the Orks space force until the Imperial Navy was able to reinforce the system.

After Rynn's World, the Crimson fists found themselves in the interesting position of having more specialists than battle-brothers. The Chapter's Apothecaries and Techmarines have been forced to take on roles not normally assigned to them, although without their skills the Chapter would have dwindled beyond repair within a few years.

The process of rebuilding the Chapter has been slow and arduous, although any rush would result in complications that would corrupt or destroy the Chapter at a later date. A number of Scout squads have been inducted into a newly formed Tenth Company, and are said to be forging the future of the Chapter with their every action.

Combat Doctrine

During the nine thousand years of their crusade, the Crimson Fists became skilled at combating many alien species, most notably the Orks. These skills have been valuable to the Ordo Xenos of the Inquisition, with many members of the Chapter serving terms with the elite Deathwatch.

After the Rynn's World Incident, the sheer amount of casualties has prevented the Chapter from fighting in the way prescribed by the Codex Astartes. Instead, Kantor has fielded his surviving Marines as infiltrators and guerrilla troops, attacking specific, high-value targets as opposed to defeating enemies in open battle.


Before battle, the Chaplains will call out "There is only the Emperor". The Crimson Fists will respond "He is our shield and protector".

Notable members

Pedro Kantor Current Chapter Master

Commander Reinez Led the force of Crimson Fists on Entymion IV

Captain Casaquez Captain of the Second Company

Captain Gereon Captain of the Third Company

Captain Cortez The Hero of the Battle of Steel Cross (M41 year 835), Cortez is noted for his ability to endure mortal wounds and yet still continue fighting in the name of the Emperor.


The Chapters' main colour is deep blue, with red decoration. The Chapter's symbol is a direct copy of the Imperial Fists, with the alternate colours.

When an initiate joins the ranks of the Chapter his left glove is painted Crimson, symbolic of Rogal Dorn's tradition of cutting the palms of new recruits and sharing his blood with them directly, creating a bond between them, upon reaching veteran status his right glove is also painted Crimson.

From Lexicanum.com (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Crimson_Fists)...

Crimson Fists Marine (Rogue Trader)
Crimson Fists Marine (Rogue Trader)

After the Horus Heresy it was decided (in the Codex Astartes written by the Ultramarines Primarch Roboute Guilliman) that no single man should ever wield the power of a whole legion of Space Marines alone, and that each legion was to be split up into thousand men strong chapters. Rogal Dorn of the Imperial Fists legion long opposed this, but decided to yield rather than risk the fragile peace of the post-heresy Imperium. The Imperial Fists legion were divided into four chapters: The marines most devoted to their Primarch was to remain Imperial Fists, the most zealous started the never-ending crusade of the Black Templars and the younger and more levelheaded marines formed the Crimson Fists.1 It is also rumoured that the planetary assault company were formed into another Chapter but all records have been wiped from Imperial history (See Soul Drinkers).

The chapters name derives from the ceremony conducted at the initiation of new chapter masters in the Imperial Fist legion. The Chapter Master and the Primarch would both cut their palm and share blood in a warrior handshake; strengthening the marine with the blood of the Primarch and forming a symbolic bond between them.

The Crimson Fists spent their first nine millennia as a space-faring Crusade Chapter, much like the Black Templars. Their first victory was against a large host of Exodite Eldar on Urolak Prime, followed by the cleansing of HR8518; the home system of an alien race known as the Scythians.1 Their most legendary campaign was the Crusade of Righteous Liberation - the retaking of planets lost after the Age of Apostasy. The largest Crimson Fist operation in more recent times was the Voltigern Crusade in late M40, where several Ork empires in the Loki sector were attacked and destabilized, later to collapse in civil war. For this the Crimson Fists were granted fiefdom over Rynn's World, a prosperous agri-world.1

Their homeworld was invaded by Orks in mid-M41. The Crimsons Fists, led by Captain Drakken of the 3rd company had earlier tried to sabotage an Orkish Waaagh building on the nearby world Badlading, but failed. The Orks rallied under Warlord Snagrod - the Arch-Arsonist of Charadon - and invaded in response, despite the almost suicidal nature of invading a Space Marine homeworld. The odds shifted in the Orks favor when the Crimson Fists Fortress-Monastery was destroyed by a stray missile from its own defense system, with a majority of the chapter killed in the blast. The survivors consolidated their defenses at the planet's capitol, New Rynn City, and managed to repel the invasion after a furious battle. With no more than a hundred surviving marines the Chapter came close to being disbanded due to irrecoverable battle losses, but have since managed to recover.1 According to the Black Library book Crimson Tear the chapter is back to half its original strength as of late M41.

Since the Ork invasion, the Fists has sworn vengeance on all Ork-kind. This conflict is reflected in the current fourth edition rules, with the Crimson Fists having advantages in close combat with Orks but having access to fewer specialist troops.
Crimson Fists
Crimson Fists

The Crimson Fists embraced the Codex Astartes readily, and are probably the most traditional among the sons of Dorn, and receive training of all aspects of combat as written by Roboute Guilleman. There are a few minor deviances; such as the first company being known as the Crusade Company, a tradition started after the Crusade of Righteous Liberation left the Crimson Fists with no more than 128 survivors. The 1st company has been kept at 128 marines since, with the master of the Crusade Company always being the Chapter Master as well. It is considered a bad omen to march to battle with less than a full veteran company.

The Crimson Fists has always had close ties with the Imperium and the Inquisition. They have contributed many warriors to the kill-teams of the Ordo Xenos, being renown Ork fighters. They have also, at the order of Terra and the Inquistion, destroyed two chapters of brother Space Marines; the insane Sons of Gideon and the mind-wiped Marines Vigilant. This has earned them a reputation as lap dogs to the Inquisition among more radical chapters.

The chapters main colour is deep blue with white or silver details. When an initiate joins the ranks of the Chapter his left glove is painted red; when he becomes a member of the Crusade company his right glove is also painted red. Scouts are often portrayed with red gloves but blue hand guards. Their Chapter symbol is almost an exact copy of that of the Imperial Fists but uses different colours, namely dark blue and crimson red.

27-02-2008, 08:30
Why say lore when you can say Fluff?
Lore sounds dumb.

Back to subject, acording to my friend, the previous Marine codex had Crimson fists on the cover :)
also with 5th edition comign out soon the starter box is supposed to be crimson fists.

Cortez, isn't he a special character in codex deamon hunters as an inquisitor in POWER ARMOUR.

27-02-2008, 08:45
Cortez, isn't he a special character in codex deamon hunters as an inquisitor in POWER ARMOUR.

no thats Coatez or some such person.

27-02-2008, 08:59
Why say lore when you can say Fluff?
Lore sounds dumb.

The term ''Fluff'' is a touch insulting to the people that write it, Lore is not. This is because the piece they've spent time writing is being casually reffered to as padding. Have a wee think yourself and you'll see why.

Sorry to go OT there.

Cortez was a special character in the old marine codex, his model isn't really liked by most of the gaming community, you can do a better model with the plastic commander IMO.