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Xgladar
04-03-2008, 17:44
alright i was talking about spaceships on a forum,when someone said the Emperor class battleship is bigger than some planets/moons

when i asked if this is an exaggeration he psoted this


Executor 19 kilometers long and 1500 times larger than an xwing according the wiki. Going with a an Emperor being 500 times larger again then that still makes it 9500 kilometers long. The radius of the earth is 6,356 kilometers.


can someone tell me if this is true? are 40k ships really this big?

also does someone have a picture with size comparisons to other ships(40k or otherwise).
also,do the other races have ships this big?

Ericsson
04-03-2008, 18:10
That is a ship from Star Wars, not Warhammer.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Executor

Remember the big Star Destroyer in Episode V and VI? That's the Executor.

Edit: Missed the part about the Emperor class. Thought your friend mixed up some different universes.

Burnthem
04-03-2008, 18:11
Emperor class battleships are around 8-9 kilometres long, with cruisers being 4-6 km and escorts 500m+.

BFG ships are big, but not that big :)

Perfect Organism
04-03-2008, 18:19
Looks like someone messed up with their decimal places, or confused length with volume. Imperial battleships are described as being on a similar scale as cities, not planets. The only planetary bodies they might be larger than are tiny moons, like Deimos.

Sephtar II
04-03-2008, 18:54
The scale I always used was from that picture in the BFG rulebook of all of those slaves pulling a torpedo the size of a large building into the torpedo tube. If you consider that those are the ones fired out of imperial cruisers thats about right.

Iracundus
04-03-2008, 23:09
BFG player's list consensus was that escorts averaged 0.5km, cruisers 3km, and battleships 6km in length.

Lord Malice
05-03-2008, 00:22
When BFG first came out one of the designers said they had to be vague about sizes (for some reason, Emperor knows why) but he did say that the bombers were roughly the size of a jumbo jet.

Burnthem
05-03-2008, 00:45
Bombers were later scaled down to the size of the Space shuttle, thicker than a jumbo jet, but not as wide or as long. There is very little need for wings in space ;)

Lord Malice
05-03-2008, 00:58
If that is the case then it would make all ships considerably smaller.

Burnthem
05-03-2008, 01:18
If that is the case then it would make all ships considerably smaller.

Why would it do that? Just because the bombers are slightly smaller doesnt mean all the ships in the fleet have to be scaled down. The Bomber models arent to scale with the cruisers if thats what you think, if they were to scale the bombers would be too small to see or the cruisers would have to be a couple of metres long.

Terror of the East
05-03-2008, 08:26
http://www.merzo.net/
this site is good...it shows size comparisons of 40k imperial ships...and all other sci-fi ones.
so u can see the size differences between an Imperial Retribution Class Battleship and Super Star Destroyer!!!
go to the -10x tab on the site

Forbiddenknowledge
05-03-2008, 10:30
There was also the comment the designers made when Gothic was first released about a Battleship being the size of North America....

I put it down to "mines bigger than yours" though, and stick with the 8-9km scale.

Sai-Lauren
05-03-2008, 12:06
There was also the comment the designers made when Gothic was first released about a Battleship being the size of North America....

And picking up it's own set of orbiting moons whenever it flies through any kind of asteroid belt...

Something like that would be pretty much unable to turn, or in fact accelerate or decelerate without ripping itself apart through inertial forces.
Plus the sheer amount of material that would be required to build it would pretty much require an entire planet to be mined out and processed.

Deimos is listed with dimensions of 15.0 12 10.4 km - something like Phalanx, Space Hulks or possibly Abaddon's Planet Killer might be larger, but they'd be about it.



Going with a an Emperor being 500 times larger again

Do I really want to know where that number got pulled from? ;) Because there's absolutely nothing backing it up in any way, shape or form.

Forbiddenknowledge
05-03-2008, 12:28
Hey, I think its crap too. Mind, these are the same people (in a way) who think a Land Raider has less armour than an M1.

CELS
05-03-2008, 12:50
Why do people assume that battleships are twice the size of cruisers? It is obvious that attack craft are not the same scale as the ships themselves, but to assume that no models at all are in scale seems weird to me. It's not like the artwork is consistent enough to get a sense of scale from that, so are people just guessing randomly according to what would be cool?