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LoneSniperSG
01-04-2008, 05:43
A thought hit me today. Maybe it hurt, not sure. I blast metal so I don't feel things.


Given all of the roots 40k has in human history and even the present, I feel almost forced to wonder if there isn't some bright, glittering planet that runs rich with shifting credits.

I mean of course, if there is a locale in the 40k universe that serves as a parallel to Las Vegas. My mind boggles to try an imagine such a place in the 41st millennium.

Try just imagining if there's some gold-plated chapter of Marines who call Vegas their homeworld, or a Guard Regiment with gold and silver-trimmed tanks.

Is there such a place?

jackveneno
01-04-2008, 05:51
i would love that place...

Luisjoey
01-04-2008, 05:53
very funny idea! the casino marines! they wear black and white like in tuxedo, they have a landraider jackpot that shoot coins AP1, and their have instead apotecary a coupier for poker :D

Grey Seer Skretch
01-04-2008, 06:55
Well there was, then the Orks nicked it and now somewhere out there is a giant mob of pimptastic golden Gargants :D

Shadow Marine
01-04-2008, 08:01
Well if there is such a place then there will be a CSI series about it!

Adra
01-04-2008, 08:12
i like the idea of a gambler world and the guard of that world being pimped out. not so much the marines :p

the guard could just use card symbols and gold chain trim on their armour and big floppy hats and....ok ill stop now

Vanger
01-04-2008, 08:36
Just convert up Mordian Iron Guard models with fedora hats and fur coats and you have your Casino Defense Force :D

==Me==
01-04-2008, 11:49
Now all they need is an Order of Sisters ;)

Rick_1138
01-04-2008, 12:17
You just know slaneesh would own it, and turned sisters of battle would staff it!

MrBigMr
01-04-2008, 12:27
A pair of dices as the insignia, more bling than all the chapters combined, bright colors... If Sisters in the mix, they would need plenty of feathers and Guard would be the ones in black suits and sun glasses.

http://www.threadless.com/submission/58403/I_M_ON_A_ROLLA_GAY/
http://www.threadless.com/submission/107919/I_M_still_ON_A_ROLLA_GAY/

Archangel_Ruined
01-04-2008, 13:04
You know this is odd, I was talking to someone yesterday who is doing a slaneshi guard army based on a casino world using the EoT codex, this is all a bit too much of a coincidence...

Leftenant Gashrog
01-04-2008, 14:03
A pair of dices as the insignia

Good call, and it even has precident: the RT era 7th Regiment "Lucky Sevens" (though they used sensible olive drab vehicles)

MrBigMr
01-04-2008, 14:29
A good source for names for units and vehicles.
Lucky Seven, Dead Man's Hand, Snake Eyes, Full House, Straight Flush, Kings Over Queens, New Shoes (as in "daddy need a new pair"), Three Kings, Jacks And Jokers, High Roller, Big Spender, Ace of Spades, etc.

de Selby
01-04-2008, 14:51
Hmm, I think you've missed the right edition unfortunately. This sort of thing would have fitted perfectly into the Rogue Trader universe, when 'the galaxy was a big place' and the whole idea was to shoehorn in as much sci-fi and pop culture into one setting as possible.

These days, vegas world fits into 40k about as well as hello kitty marines...
;)

Chaplain of Chaos
01-04-2008, 15:29
I always thought that Imperial Pleasure Worlds where the equivalent. In which case the Imperium probably has lots of them.

Son of Makuta
01-04-2008, 15:59
Yeah, quite a few, I'm betting. The planetary governor is probably a happy man. :p

Shadow Marine
01-04-2008, 16:35
I disagree with de selby because you always need to entertain the mass armies of the guard . I don't think they would have whole worlds. But I am sure that world's which ports which cater for a soldiers every need, doesn't a Gaunt novel have a bit about them getting shore leave and some of them go into the restrict area?

Remember they are human even with all the layers of Imperial, religious Emperor crap!

LoneSniperSG
01-04-2008, 19:06
Hmm, I think you've missed the right edition unfortunately. This sort of thing would have fitted perfectly into the Rogue Trader universe, when 'the galaxy was a big place' and the whole idea was to shoehorn in as much sci-fi and pop culture into one setting as possible.

You're talking about the universe that contains chapters of genetically-altered super warriors, fanatical people devoted to gods made from nightmares and millions of diverse planets? Just to make sure we're on the same page..

I might have to write a fanfic of such a planet and its custodians, only beause I already have too many modeling projects racked up.

The Guy
01-04-2008, 22:01
Isn't it Macragge? :p

MADJAP77
02-04-2008, 01:34
my chaos is painted in shining gold, dread, rhino, pred everything GOLD

de Selby
02-04-2008, 09:54
You're talking about the universe that contains chapters of genetically-altered super warriors, fanatical people devoted to gods made from nightmares and millions of diverse planets? Just to make sure we're on the same page..


Well yes. Obviously the "millions of diverse planets" bit means that anything is possible, but as far as theme and atmosphere go I'm not sure that blinged-up vegas marines sit easily alongside the genetically engineered super-warriors and nightmare gods. It's going to be a joke/spoof army basically.

What I'm getting at is that back in the day when half the scenarios were written for generic outlaws and security forces duking it out in spaceports and whatnot, a force of casino enforcers wouldn't have raised an eyebrow.

Infernal_devices
02-04-2008, 10:09
Lucky Seven, Dead Man's Hand, Snake Eyes, Full House, Straight Flush, Kings Over Queens, New Shoes (as in "daddy need a new pair"), Three Kings, Jacks And Jokers, High Roller, Big Spender, Ace of Spades

ooh thanks, I'm nicking that for if I ever get round to starting that guard army I've promised myself :rolleyes:

SonofUltramar
02-04-2008, 10:30
I think the Imperium must have at least one world that is just a gamblers paradise. In the Grim Darkness of the Far Future there is only War!!! But over there in the corner is a shiny little planet that nobody noticed;)

MrBigMr
02-04-2008, 10:46
Well yes. Obviously the "millions of diverse planets" bit means that anything is possible, but as far as theme and atmosphere go I'm not sure that blinged-up vegas marines sit easily alongside the genetically engineered super-warriors and nightmare gods. It's going to be a joke/spoof army basically.
I don't see why someone can't make anything he/she/it wants with their armies. If we were to stick with the "official canon", all we would see were generic codex armies and even they change. Preatorians aren't mentioned in many places anymore and I'm sure other Guard regiments will disappear from the new codex as well. And if someone would have come up with blue anime/mecha aliens during the 2nd edition, everyone would have laughed them out of the game as being "unfluffy."

I see that there are 3 types of armies.
1. Official (Ultramarines, Cadian 8th, Emperor's Children, etc.)
2. Self-made, yet fluffy (Own chapters/regiments/craftworld, etc. that fit within the universe)
3. Themes (anything from Alien 'Nids to Pretty Marines)

I don't see anything bad with any of them. I'd take the latter ones over first one any day. I have Deathworld Vets and IG Drop Troops that fit the 2nd category. One is an army of rastafarians and the second is a mix of different movies, mainly the USCM from Aliens with religious styling from Equilibrium (have a Grammaton Cleric Commissar as an Ecclesiarchy field agent), but all done in line with the style of 40K (autogun troopers, android servitors, etc.)

My Chaos fits into the middle of 2nd and 3rd. It's made as a serious army, but not all would accept the concept of various Chaos aliens, space marine stat "super humans" (Chaos did it!) or that they have plenty of looted Eldar equipment. But with 3 novels worth of fluff, it's not just "an idea", it's a serious army with plenty to back it up.

And then there's my pure theme armies, such as my siege marines with diesel engine backpacks, tripod heavy weapons, terminator sergeants (even scouts), heavy artillery, khaki armour, etc. And I'm soon starting to work on a small Chaos Tau combat patrol. Oh, and a Space Wolf armoured company.


What I'm getting at is that back in the day when half the scenarios were written for generic outlaws and security forces duking it out in spaceports and whatnot, a force of casino enforcers wouldn't have raised an eyebrow.
You have planets for religion, planets for farming, planets for industry. Surely there can be a depraved world of legalised gambling. Even Vegas has plenty of chapels and all that. It can easily be regulated and I'm sure the Imperium wouldn't shut down such a wealthy place of profit. So it's not kosher, but they've let many things slide because "it's useful". Such as mutants, psychers, etc. even though those are considered sinful.

And Hive World are run by criminals and all. You telling me a depraved little hive world at the edge of the galaxy can never turn into a mekka of sin? Just show the PG side of it to the Imperium with plenty of flashing, religious signs (Emperor's Palace hotel, Golden Throne casino) and make gambling a religious activity. The Imperium doesn't care how you worship the Emperor, as long as you do.

Simon Sez
02-04-2008, 11:13
Man I can so see that!! You would have the elite of Imperial society coming in and losing tens of millions of imperial credits on games of chances, leaving their worlds in the suck whilst all the host has to do to pay its tithes is make sure the house always wins!
:D

And Praetorians would be sop perfect as the defence force!!

IyandenAvatar
02-04-2008, 14:30
I doubt a marine chapter would come from a pleasure world given that they need to recruit only the most hardy of people.

I would also doubt a Sister Convent would be there... bleached blonde sisters of battle with double Es... it would be hard to aim a boltgun with those in the way.

MrBigMr
02-04-2008, 16:18
I doubt a marine chapter would come from a pleasure world given that they need to recruit only the most hardy of people.
For each customer, there's an army of workers. I would imagine low level people living in quite rugged conditions and having to fight for their right to party. It doesn't matter what the world is. Anyone can try and join the SM. The Black Templars, Imperial Fists, Dark Angels, etc. take people all over the place. You think Terra produces "hardy" people from all the scollars and pencil pushers? Yet the planet has Guard regiments and at least the Fists recruit from there.

de Selby
02-04-2008, 19:33
I don't see why someone can't make anything he/she/it wants with their armies. If we were to stick with the "official canon", all we would see were generic codex armies and even they change. Preatorians aren't mentioned in many places anymore and I'm sure other Guard regiments will disappear from the new codex as well. And if someone would have come up with blue anime/mecha aliens during the 2nd edition, everyone would have laughed them out of the game as being "unfluffy."

I see that there are 3 types of armies.
1. Official (Ultramarines, Cadian 8th, Emperor's Children, etc.)
2. Self-made, yet fluffy (Own chapters/regiments/craftworld, etc. that fit within the universe)
3. Themes (anything from Alien 'Nids to Pretty Marines)



Just to be clear, I don't have a problem with people building any kind of project they like; my earlier post was meant as an observation (about the general atmosphere of 40k and how it has evolved), not a judgement.

Personally I build type 2 armies, but I am quite completely relaxed about whatever other people decide to spend their time and money on, and originality counts for a lot.

:)