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Arguleon-veq
11-04-2008, 14:56
Not sure if this would be in the army list board or not but....

I always try to make my army competetive whilst keeping the list interesting/fun/fluffy.

I know there are some power builds out there but cant seem to think off ultimate power builds for some lists so I thought id make a thread designed to gather all the 'power builds' the lists considered THE most competative for each army. The lists we would see winning tournies [not the ones we use and are successful with because we are good with it]. All at 2K.

I'll start with what i would consider a powerful Empire build, although im sure there are way better.

Arch Lector;
Speculum, Armour of Meteoric Iron, Great Hammer.

Warrior Priest;
Barded Horse, Great Hammer, Shield.

Wizard; Lvl2
Burning Head, Powerstone.

Wizard;Lvl2
Dispell Scroll, Ring of Volans.

12 Handgunners;
- 6 Handgunners

12 Handgunners;
- 5 Archers

6 Knights;
FC,
Warbanner.

Cannon;
Cannon;

5 Pistoliers;
Outrider - Repeater,
Musician.

5 Pistoliers;
Outrider - Repeater,
Musician.

Hellblaster;

Steamtank;

Probably nowhere near the top, I just cant get myself out of taking units i like lol. Your turn though -

GMMStudios
11-04-2008, 17:41
That list is close to what I am making

Arch Lector;
Speculum, Armour of Meteoric Iron, Great Hammer.

Wizard; Lvl2
Dispel scroll x2

Wizard; Lvl2
Burning Head, Powerstone.

Wizard;Lvl2
Ring of Volans.

10 Handgunners;
- 5 Handgunners

10 Handgunners;
- 5 Handgunners

10 Handgunners
-5 crossbowmen

10 Crosbowmen

10 Archers

6 Knights;
FC,
Warbanner.

Cannon;
Cannon;
Cannon;
Cannon;

Steamtank;

Steamtank;

Note that I play 2250 though.

Akuma
11-04-2008, 17:49
med2000 Pts - Empire Army

Arch Lector of Sigmar
General; Prayers of Sigmar; Heavy Armour
Sword of Fate
Van Horstman's Speculum
Bronze Shield
War Altar


Battle Wizard
Magic Level 2
Dispel Scroll
Dispel Scroll

Battle Wizard @ 130 Pts
Magic Level 2
Rod of Power [30]

Battle Wizard
Magic Level 2
1x Dispel Scroll

20 Flagellant Warbands (Core)
Frenzy; Flail; Prophet of Doom

10 Handgunners
10 Handgunners
10 Archers

Great Cannon
Great Cannon
Great Cannon

5 Pistoliers
Brace of Pistols; Light Armour; Musician; Outrider (Repeater Pistol)

Helblaster Volley Gun
Steam Tank


Casting Pool: 8
Dispel Pool: 7
Models in Army: 77
Total Army Cost: 2000

This army has everything - 3 unbrakable units - great magic defanse ( up to 10 DD in a phase with 3 diss scrolls ) , nice magic offense if your enemy is not magic biased - good amount of fire power - character killer at its finest and enought cannons to deal with enemy artilery or dragon on turn one - atop of that it also sports 2 distraction units ...

It has all the assets of a gun line while eliminationg its weekneses

Arguleon-veq
12-04-2008, 02:45
That is nice, I wanted to try and fit some Flaggelants into my list but figured with having 2 unbreakable units already that id go for a hammer unit. Plus the Knights are fast for objective hunting, I think my list is a little too thin on the ground though, not enough bodies.

We seem to have the same kind of idea on what makes a powerful empire army though.

Any other armies?

Tzeentch;

Lord;
MoT,
Dragon,
Golden Eye,
Staff of Change,
Halberd,
Shield.

Exalted;
MoT,
Halberd,
Shield,
Disc.

Exalted;
MoT,
Halberd,
Shield,
Barded Steed,
Power Familiar.

Chariot;
MoT.

Chariot;
MoT.

5 Chosen Knights;
FC,
MoT.

5 Screamers;

14 Power,
7 Dispell.

I don't really know if that is a powerbuild or not?

Dragon Prince of Caledor
12-04-2008, 04:20
I have a dwarf army and i keep it no secret that gun lines are not fun. easy to defeat with a little tweaking of a list and some good strategy. I just plain dont like the idea. The game is called warhammer not war handgunner (hahahah). I dont think that it is possible to make a high elf list that is too mean. This is depending on what one would call mean though:)

aenarion67
12-04-2008, 04:38
i think a cheesy HE list would be like 4 bolttrowers and teclis.

ReveredChaplainDrake
12-04-2008, 04:39
I saw a Lizard list roughly looking like with Kroak, 40 Skinks, 6 Kroxigors (2 units), and a couple of Priests. Clean-swept a RTT. The rumor was that the player was thinking about bringing Wood Elves, but he was severely hung over and decided to pull this instead. Should tell you something about the build's power if you can use it and dominate the RTT despite being totally wasted.

Hm, maybe if I tried to pull some bullcr*p like that, my Lizards would actually win sometimes!

The_Dragon_Rising
12-04-2008, 08:53
I saw a Lizard list roughly looking like with Kroak, 40 Skinks, 6 Kroxigors (2 units), and a couple of Priests. Clean-swept a RTT.

At 2K i have played a kroak list and whilst not broken it is hard as nails and i havent yet lost. I go for Kroak, JSoD w/Ward, Priest w/Diadem, 40 Skinks some scout, 3 krox everything with quetzl where possible.

Usually the skinks die but at the end the JSoD and Kroak are both alive and well thats ~1400 pts...

Arguleon-veq
15-04-2008, 15:09
So we have;

War Alter/Pistolier/Steam Tank/Cannon armies for Empire.

Thorek Gunlines for Dwarfs.

Kroak/Skink Kroxigor lists for Lizzies.

I'd think High Elves would be Teclis with 3 Mages then some Bolt Throwers/Swordmasters and maybe some Sea Guard.

Bretts have the RAF.

VC have the 14+ PD armies.

Wood Elves have the Treemonic Legion.

Skaven have the Grey Seer SAD.

What about Chaos? would the Khazrak Ambush Herd be a powerbuild?. Orcs and Gobbos im having a hard time thinking of a reall competative build too.

Lord_Ribbit
15-04-2008, 17:24
Here are two Bretonnian Royal Air Force Lists. The first is a Errantry War list out of the SoC book, which is not tournament legal, and the second is a regular list.

Errantry War

1 Lord (281 Pts)
General
Grail Vow
Royal Pegasus
Shield
The Lance of Artois
Gromril Great Helm
Gauntlet of the Duel
Virtue of Confidence

Paladin (129 Pts)
Battle Standard Bearer
Virtue of Duty
War Banner

Paladin (103 Pts)
Armor of Agilulf
Lance

Damsel of the Lady (105 Pts)
1 Dispel Scroll
Warhorse

Damsel of the Lady (130 Pts)
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Dispel Scroll
Warhorse

Knights Errant (8,203 Pts)
Full Command, Errantry Banner

Knights Errant (7#, 183 Pts)
Full Command, Errantry Banner

Knights Errant (8#, 203 Pts)
Full Command, Errantry Banner

Pegasus Knights (3#, 165 Pts)

Pegasus Knights (3#, 165 Pts)

Pegasus Knights (3#, 165 Pts)

Pegasus Knights (3#, 165 Pts)



Total Roster Cost: 1997


RAF

Lord (281 Pts)
General
Grail Vow
Royal Pegasus
Shield
The Lance of Artois
Gromril Great Helm
Gauntlet of the Duel
Virtue of Confidence

Paladin (129 Pts)
Battle Standard Bearer
Virtue of Duty
War Banner

Damsel of the Lady (105 Pts)
1 Dispel Scroll
Warhorse

Damsel of the Lady (130 Pts)
1 Dispel Scroll
1 Dispel Scroll
Warhorse

Knights Errant (8,203 Pts)
Full Command, Errantry Banner

Knights of the Realm (8, 216 Pts)
Full Command

Knights of the Realm (8, 216 Pts)
Full Command

Pegasus Knights (3#, 165 Pts)

Pegasus Knights (3#, 165 Pts)

Pegasus Knights (3#, 165 Pts)

Grail Knights (5, 230 Pts)
Full Command
Banner of Chalon

Total Points: 1998


- Lord Ribbit -

ZiggyQubert
15-04-2008, 18:41
i think a cheesy HE list would be like 4 bolttrowers and teclis.

No see you've got it wrong....

the cheasy list is teclis and 4 cannons....

Marwynn
15-04-2008, 20:13
Did you just name the Sea Guard as part of a cheese list?