View Full Version : Ethereal v. effects that include move penalties

22-04-2008, 10:51
I did a search and couldn't find anything on it yet, so here it comes:

Ethereal movement has the following rule: "They are also never effected by any special rule, spell or item that would otherwise reduce their movement or stop them moving completely."

How should I read this?

- Ethereal only prevents the negative movement effect from the rule, spell or item.

- Ethereal prevents the whole rule, spell or item from having an effect because it includes a movement penalty.

Example: Anvil of Doom ... can it zap the Wraiths just for the damage part or can't it zap the Wraiths at all?


(PS From a RAW point of view I'm inclined to say it prevents the entire rule,spell or item from working.)

22-04-2008, 11:02
It seems the simplest implementation is for the unit to simply ignore movement penalties.


22-04-2008, 11:08
It's a dodgy one on all accounts: going by the example given and the wording, I have the impression that the whole attack is meant to be ignored. But the example used is ridiculous (Pit of Shades) and the implication a little outrageous... so I would play as T10 says.

22-04-2008, 11:10

The first is true: Movement modifications do not have an effect on ethereals, everthing else does. It will not stop the spell at all, just prevent a few effects of its.


22-04-2008, 15:01
Aka our dear black knights get to continue their steamroll towards the fat dwarves without any movement penalty?

22-04-2008, 16:16
So it's basicly up to the person to decide what he prefers due to dodgy wording ... but the simplest interpretation (and less likely to upset people) would be to restrict it to just immunity versus movement penalties.


22-04-2008, 16:51
The problem is, the immunity to movement penalties in regards to barding is what's upsetting people...

22-04-2008, 18:24
While the rule clearly stops the entire spell (it never once says stops only the movement part of the spell). I really dont think it should be played that way. (you should suffer all the penalties besides movement)