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Easy E
18-10-2005, 02:15
*Edit Page 11 has templates for an Armored Crew Compartment, Armored Car (Humvee), Scylla Tankette, and Assault Bassie. Imperial Truck Templates, alternate Staff Car, a Salamander Scout Mod, and Manticore Templates on page 12. Armored Car (with turret) Templates on Page 13. Ragnarok Battle Tank templates on page 14. BaneBlade on page 17 and varient BaneBlade Double Sponson on page 18. Destroyer upgrade template for Russ on page 18*

Greetings,

Since the 2ed Imperial Guard Codex I have been interested in an Armored Company. It was in this revered tome that they laid out the organization for such a unit.

With the recent publication of the rules online I decided now was the time to strike. The only problem was that I had no money. After looking at the list I decided that my dream could be accomplished, and for less than $5 dollars using cardstock paper, straws, and assorted found materials.

Here is what I started with:
http://img447.imageshack.us/img447/1403/warseer17aj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I colored some templates in using the bog standard paint program. I stayed with grey scale only, as the printer I had access to was a laser printer and only had greyscale printing capabilities. I am positive someone with better tools and computer skills could make these things very impressive.

Here is a WIP:
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5307/warseer29kb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

With a scissors, glue, and a boxcutter I managed to make it this far. The above picture is after cutting up 2 and half pieces of cardstock.

Here is another WIP:
http://img447.imageshack.us/img447/8396/warseer37vz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is all of the basic pieces put together without any of the accessory pieces put in place.

shutupSHUTUP!!!
18-10-2005, 02:17
I think the tracks are a bit wide, its quite impressive though.

GamesmasterZ
18-10-2005, 02:17
That's SO cute!

-return to manliness-

Buff, Snoop Dawg!

Nice...

Easy E
18-10-2005, 02:19
The command tank is a Vanquisher. I struggled for sometime deciding how I was going to take this basic leman Russ Chasis and turn it into a Vanquisher. I made a seperate accessory template to work off of.

Here is the Vanquisher:
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3685/warseer46kd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and another one:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7446/warseer52dm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The accesory sprue also has elements that I can use to build other Leman Russ variants. I plan on constructing Conquerors and Exterminators. This is in addition to the standard Russ and another Commisar Vanquisher.

Easy E
18-10-2005, 02:21
As I mentioned above, I also planned on building other Russ variants. Here is the Conqueror I put together.

Conqueror:
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9572/warseer64eu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And another:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3295/warseer71dt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This Conqueror is also equipped with a Hunter/Killer missile for some added punch.

2 tanks down and 8 more to go.

GamesmasterZ
18-10-2005, 02:25
Are these 40K scale?

1:72 - is 40K scale

:0)
18-10-2005, 02:29
1:72 - is 40K scale
Actually, most 1:72 is nearer to 20mm scale, correct?

GamesmasterZ
18-10-2005, 02:32
I heard that GW stuff was 1:72.

If this is incorrect, my bad.

captaincortez
18-10-2005, 03:05
Sorry, dude-I'm not feeling you. Painting and modelling are my favorite aspects of this hobby and paper models just kill that joy for me. Maybe I'm an elitist or something, but I take pride in the fact that my armies are worth hundreds of dollars each. Power to you though-it must take a long time to make those. Good luck man.

GamesmasterZ
18-10-2005, 03:19
This guy apparently loves to play, gotta' give him some props for it.

Easy E
18-10-2005, 04:27
Here is an image for scale. My two tanks with a GW Demolisher in the center.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2726/warseer81oc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


@ captaincortez- I wish I had $100's dollars for my armies. Unfortunately, I don't. I take pride in the cost effectiveness of my armies and scratchbuilding things. Why buy when I can build?

Uriel
18-10-2005, 04:51
Sorry, dude-I'm not feeling you. Painting and modelling are my favorite aspects of this hobby and paper models just kill that joy for me. Maybe I'm an elitist or something, but I take pride in the fact that my armies are worth hundreds of dollars each. Power to you though-it must take a long time to make those. Good luck man.

painfully I have to agree.

ExoCowboy
18-10-2005, 06:11
I have to say that I too enjoy too much painting and converting to do something like this.. but I know that all of us do not enjoy painting as much as I do and we all prefer different things. Are those templates made by you?

Anyways, those tanks look great! Very much like their plastic counterparts.. and the colours fit them well, kinda "realistic" look with that camo.

TomKamakazi
18-10-2005, 07:19
I think they look awesome!

Here's to making an Armored company for less than the cost of a single tank.

I'm a fan of modeling and painting too, but for the love of the game, I think you've got the right idea.

Skink Master
18-10-2005, 07:40
I love the idea! If only I wasn't too lazy

Orcdom
18-10-2005, 07:55
good job, and yes there are those out there that do paper models as a hobby all on its own, BTW those Biles russes? if so i might have the same templates, i just havent seen how they tun out, but they do look nice. congrats and get that 10,000 point AC built :P
Steve

notdakuningist
18-10-2005, 08:10
They look awesome man, don't let anybody pee in your cheerios just because you save much more money than they did:-)

Wow, you could even explain it as some new admech lightweight material so they can airdrop and transport the tanks on the cheap:-0

Zark the Damned
18-10-2005, 09:19
You're PuffinMagician in disguise right?

Seriously, keep up the good work. The Tanks look pretty good, and you can always replace em with official ones when you get rich, right :)

ArtificerArmour
18-10-2005, 09:37
i loikes 'em! seriosuly, when i try anything like that i lose effort and throw my pritt stick in my glitter bowl and rage abit. im feeling these tanks, but how are you going to transport them?

nurgle_boy
18-10-2005, 09:41
theyre different, although not in a bad way.

depending on how strict your store is, you could get some nasty comments from staff, otherwise, go ahead!

also, it looks like something i would do! im a ********** cheapskate!

treadhead
18-10-2005, 09:43
I heard that GW stuff was 1:72.

If this is incorrect, my bad.

your bad....

its more like 1/63 but as its a 'heroic' scale everything goes out the window...

Anvils Hammer
18-10-2005, 10:38
humm, nice
when i first saw the word paper i groaned, but you have serious patiences to be able to glue those things together, and they look easily good enough to fight battles with.

another advantage is that you can easily make destroyed ones to replace them as the are destryoed in battle, for added realism etc.

please grab chaos black and hit the insides of the gun barrels with it.

Puffin Magician
18-10-2005, 11:05
These look good for a quick paper job, but as I found out Scratchbuilt Armoured Companies become a compromise of detail for time. I know that you could make them look even more like the GW kit, but that would mean tons of fiddly details and that's a very time-consuming process. My Cardboard Company had over 20 hulls in it but I only ever managed to finish one set of tracks. Each tank meant snipping close to 100 triangles the size of a fingernail clipping for the tracks alone. Work that was extremely demoralizing. I'm thinking of recasting the GW track links in plastic when I re-start my building. Same with sponson & hull weapons.

I prefer to make mine with a thicker card and actually paint them, but that's a matter of preference. Your method certainly takes a lot less time, but are less durable. Would you say these could survive a trip down a flight of stairs?

Kudos to actually getting some done. How many are planned? Any FW variants like the Manticore, Atlas or Laser Destroyer?


You're PuffinMagician in disguise right?
My thoughts exactly. I guess it's my own fault for not working on my own. Glory stolen!


Painting and modelling are my favorite aspects of this hobby and paper models just kill that joy for me. Maybe I'm an elitist or something, but I take pride in the fact that my armies are worth hundreds of dollars each.
Putting a lot of work into a model and painting it well isn't synonymous with emptying your wallet. Ingenuity is a form of talent.

Anvils Hammer
18-10-2005, 12:24
Would you say these could survive a trip down a flight of stairs?

they are made of card, and thus, are stupidly light, you could probably through something like this against a wall and it would be ok.

also, i dont see why you cant just paint onto the card/paper after assembely

Puffin Magician
18-10-2005, 14:38
Weight has nothing to do with durability... it was more of a question of how they're supported structurally; are there 'crossbeams' of a sturdy material inside, or is this simply a Leman Russ-shaped paper box?

Mine were not made with templates; rather an annoyingly large jigsaw puzzle with foamcore and cardboard bracing & seperators to keep the tank together. I'd think that these tanks are not as durable as mine were, simply because of the construction technique.

ironduke
18-10-2005, 14:45
... but how are you going to transport them?

There flat pack of course...duh!!! :p

x-esiv-4c
18-10-2005, 15:50
Heh. Good work there guy!

Easy E
18-10-2005, 21:46
Thanks for the comments. I will try to answer some of the questions.

First off, the base chassis templates are not mine. Only only threw together some templates for Leman Russ Variants and Accessories from the base. They are not Bile's templates, but I did try those out before settling on these.

They are ridiculously light. They are also surprisingly sturdy, however, they are not reinforced on the interiors. Theya re essentially shells made of cardstock. Cardstock is just thick paper like they make greeting cards out of.

You could print out the pages and then paint over it. However, the process of printing places many defining lines that help demonstrate the Russ is infact a Russ. It is difficult to create textures on cardstock with out a heavy amount of layering. So I elected to just paint it on the computer and let the pre-made template lines stay.

Hopefully, I will have two more Leman Russes done by this weekend.

Easy E
25-10-2005, 01:51
As promised, here is my updated Russ tanks that I made this weekend.

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/219/warseer107ih.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Pretty basic really.

Here's Red Squadron on patrol with the Command Vanquisher:

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/5656/warseer125au.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This now leaves me with the detailing on 1 Conqueror for the first 1,000pts. Then for my remaining tanks I have 1 Commissar Vanquisher, 2 Leman Russ with Lascannons, and 2 Exterminators. 1 Leman Russ only needs detailing and the other requires detailing and a turret.

Lastly, I want to take Anvil's Hammers advise and paint the interiors of the barrels black.

4 Tanks down and 6 to go!

Orcdom
26-10-2005, 00:59
nice work, keep them coming

Steve

Easy E
01-11-2005, 01:40
Greetings,

I have finished another Conqueror tank. This one uses a slightly different configuration. With this tank completed I have completed Green Squadron in my Armored Company.

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8323/warseer156eh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and

http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/7471/warseer165zf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The first 1,000 pts of Armored Comapny is done! 5 tanks finished and 5 to go!

Easy E
02-11-2005, 04:23
I'm not sure why I keep putting htis stuff up as no one is really interested... but somehow it is motivating to me. Like I have to keep finishing tanks to put here or I will disappoint someone. I feel like I have a deadline to get done. It's kinda weird.

Anyway, here is a picture of the completed first half of the Armored Company.

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5767/warseer184nz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This represents the 1st Saint Paulus "Timberwolves" Company. It is composed of Red and Green Squadron. Red Squadron is led by Col. Wolfe in his Vanquisher. This unit composes the primary combat element. Green Squadron is a pair of Conquerors. This elements primary duties is Scout/Pursuit.

I have begun work on the second 1,000 pts of the 1st Saint Paulus. It is Black Squadron and it is composed of two Leman Russ and a Commisar Vanquisher tank.

downundercadet07
02-11-2005, 05:31
These look great, they suffer a little from the lack of precision possible when only using card however. Are the details on the side of the tank raised? Also-- can you post the links to the templates? By the way-- I really like everything about them except the hull and sponson bolters. Those look pretty bad in my opinon. But, since that is the only thing that isn't great, you are still doing quite well.

Inquisitor T
02-11-2005, 06:04
Wow, dude, you rock. I myself prefer the more substantial nature of metal and plastic, but function generally wins over form in most things for me. I think, for the record, that the bolters look fine. They are made of *paper*, yet they clearly convey the idea that they are *bolters*. they don't have to be all pretty and have reliefs of imperial icons raised on the sides, etc... Keep doing this, I wanna hear all about it when you start playing games with these. And I definitely wanna keep up with this so I can see it when it's done!

ExoCowboy
02-11-2005, 09:37
@Easy E: We are interested about your progress, please keep on posting these. It is something completely unique, and showing a way to make a nice army with almost no cost. And if posting these pics to us keeps yourself motivated, it is all the better :cool:

lord_blackfang
02-11-2005, 09:48
I really hope you intend to paint them properly, as right now they're just paper tanks. With a real paintjob, they'll look much better.

(don't worry about warping the cardboard; spray undercoat seals it well enough to be painted with acrylics, I speak from experience)

Spacemunkie
02-11-2005, 12:23
Nooo! Don't paint them! They look superb the way they are.

I teach packaging design and construction and know how difficult it can be, and you have done a sublime job with those tanks.

I'd love to see a card Baneblade!

Have you seen this site?

http://worldworksgames.com/store/index.php?main_page=index

Orcdom
02-11-2005, 23:48
yes keep up the work, we are very interested, even tho there are not alot of posts, like the other said, this is a rare chance to see quite a bit done for cheap. good work, keep it up.
Steve

Easy E
04-11-2005, 19:48
Earlier somone asked me if I could post the link where I got these templates. I am hesitant due to the GW IP police running around and I would hate to see the person who runs the site get into any trouble. There are a couple sites that have templates on them, but it does take a bit of Google Fu to find good ones.

I agree about the Heavy Bolters looking a bit iffy. It is rather difficult working with them due to the size, but if I make another Armored Company in the future, I might add some more detail to the template. Also, anything that is circular is a real pain.

@Space Munkie- Yes I have seen that site. Thanks. One of the things that got me interested in finding out more about vehicle templates was all the great sites with paper and card terrain.

@Lord Blackfang- I don't think I will paint these as many of the details are actually just printed onto the paper. However, I do have a white test tank that I put together. Maybe I will experiment on that.

Anyway, here's the two Russes from Black Squadron:

http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/7793/warseer176le.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Not much to see here. I have the hull and turret done for the Commissar tank, but I am working on some of the details still. Hopefully I will have finished pics on Monday.

Edit: I have to stop typing so fast. It leaves errors everywhere.

Easy E
09-11-2005, 05:31
Well, the bad news is that I didn't finish my Commissar Tank this weekend. All I have left is the vanquisher cannon, co-axial storm bolter, smoke launcher, and lascannon. I could make lame excuses, but I just didn't schedule my time correctly.

So, instead I will post where I got my templates. I got them from this site:
http://www.grottoazura.com/WargamingGoodies/WH40k/40kCardTemplates.html

It doesn't seem to be working very well now.

P.S. Mods, if this isn't cool, just delete this and let me know.

Easy E
11-11-2005, 18:58
Greetings,

I still have not finished my Commisar tank. However, I decided to post a couple of proto-type models I made before settling on my Armored Company list. These were just test models to see how the templates went together.

The first is a Chimera. You can see how the basic chassis can be used to create a Hellhound as well. I didn't bother placing any of the chassis or turret weapons on as it was only a test piece.

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/7093/warseer130io.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The second is a Basilisk that I put together. I am not overly happy with the barrel on the Earthshaker Cannon. However, this was just a test piece as well. You can see how this template would be great for building most of the artillery vehicles (Medusa, Griffon, Bombard) or the Salamander varients.

http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/6096/warseer145xa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

In the end I decided to just use leman Russ varients, but there is the potential for other vehicle types in the paper Armored Company.

x-esiv-4c
11-11-2005, 19:13
Nice looking work! And about a billion times cheaper then the plastic AC.

Chaos and Evil
11-11-2005, 19:13
'kickin good work dude

38.
15-11-2005, 16:18
Wicked!! I personally love it, Id happy play that army. After recently purchasing a very neglected necron army for $30 Aud I understand the money factor.. It always feels good doing it on the cheap.

bugbait_nz
15-11-2005, 19:48
Looking good, I might use something like this and make a few wrecked vehicles, would look good on a city fight table.

Bugbait out

Easy E
15-11-2005, 23:37
The Commissar Tank is finished at last. Overall I am happy with it. However, I think I will adjust the Improved Comms antenna. Right now it seems to be leaning forward.

http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/4492/warseer192sk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This tank has a lot of devotional script on it. Some of the slogans are:
Imperator Rex
Kneel Before the Golden Throne
Praise Him
All Hail the God-Emperor of Man
There are also two smaller scrolls that are indecipherable at this scale.

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/7642/warseer208el.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

On the rear of the turret of each tank is the armored company's 'slang' name and the tanks serial number. The serial number is composed of the planetary armored company number, squad number, and tank manufacture number. In this case it is Timberwolves, 1-2-007.

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/529/warseer216rt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

That means only two tanks left to go to finish my armored company up to 2,000 pts. They are both Exterminators. Currently, I have 1 and a half track sections finished. These last two tanks may take me a bit longer than the other Russes. The side sponsons are a pain to put together, and I will have to experiment to get the Exterminator cannon (twin-Linked auto-cannons) to look somewhat right.

Orcdom
16-11-2005, 00:48
i have seen that sort of done, you could just roll the paper in a tight tube than laminate the recoil section in a little thicker card and the same with the flash supressor.

the lines where your folds are, are they scored? and is that showing as to not have to paint highlights? or is that actually paint? personally some of them i would dirty up some (the fold marks) if they are scores, and that can be done with a black marker (in theory).

but, all in all, looking good. iirc i have biles plans somewhere around here for the speeders. and was thinking of doing a speeder list with all of the varients. with being such a pain in the ass as it is to assemble the speeders themselves, i dont think the paper ones could be much more work.

Steve

Easy E
16-11-2005, 01:07
Those lines are not score lines, they were painted (in a paint program) to follow the cut marks to form a clear definition. I should print out another page and try to dirty them up per your suggestion and see how that looks.

I will also try your suggestion about the Exterminator cannons.

Thanks for the support.

Orcdom
16-11-2005, 01:16
any time, your doing what alot of us dont have the time/patience to do.

i want to mainly do drop pods and speeders tho. the drop pods because for FW? not at those prices, and the speeders, i think the paper ones bile did look pretty good and i hate building the plastic ones.

Steve

Hideous Loon
17-11-2005, 17:32
Good one, and I so disagree about it being cheapskate, and a mockery to modelling and painting. Sure, painting is a big part of the game, but it's painful to buy a plastic/metal Armoured Company (or, indeed, any army besides pure Grey Knights) if you're a poor student. Therefore, I love seeing people being as creative as you've been. Kudos.
/loonie

Easy E
17-11-2005, 23:19
I contacted the Webmaster of the site I posted earlier about his links. It appears that the GW lawyers got to him. Don't expect to see them active again. That makes me sad.

Orcdom
18-11-2005, 01:55
do some searching and youll eventually find what your looking for tho.
same with biles paper rhino site a few years ago. i am glad i got pretty much all of his stuff saved before it went down. and with the right searching you can find the rest of the stuff like i did.

Steve

Jonathan =I=
18-11-2005, 17:00
I only managed to get the drop pods :(

Easy E
18-11-2005, 18:10
I managed a few, but I missed out on the Land Raider and the Baneblade. I have a lead on some Baneblade templates, but I don't think I'll get to try them for quite sometime.

Anyway, here is a pic of the 8 finished tanks together...
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3963/warseer226by.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So we have 2 Vanquishers, 2 Conquerors and 4 Leman Russ. This picture shows Red, Black, and Green squadrons.

Twisted Ferret
20-11-2005, 03:21
I contacted the Webmaster of the site I posted earlier about his links. It appears that the GW lawyers got to him. Don't expect to see them active again. That makes me sad.
Not sure how big of a bump this is and too lazy to check :p but just to let you know... the site appears to be up again.

Easy E
22-11-2005, 03:59
Greetings,

I have completed the first Exterminator. Overall, I am feel like this is the best Exterminator tank I have built. Oh wait, it's the only one. I think there are a couple of things I will do differently on the Exterminator cannons on the next tank. Enough about me, on to the pics!

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7336/warseer239bn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/8058/warseer241to.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Let me know what you think. I now have only 1 tank left to finish my armored company to the 2,000 pt level. Once that one is done, I will go back and hit the gun barrels with black per Anvil's Hammers suggestion. Then it is time to plan a new cost saving project.

@Orcdom: Is this what you were explaining for the Exterminator cannon?

@twisted Ferret: Thanks for checking up on the site. When I double checked the site was there but none of the links worked. Oh well. I guess I have to get back to my Google Fu.

Orcdom
22-11-2005, 05:59
sorta, now to get the flash supressor look take some thicker paper that will roll up good and make a wrap or to to go around the tips of the barrels, dont worry about the vents on the sides or underneath, you can make them with a black marker (pick one that wont bleed tho).

Steve

tzeentchgiant
22-11-2005, 16:09
They look great, very proffesional considering they're homemade.

Excellent.

TG

Orcdom
22-11-2005, 19:18
approximately how long per tank is assembly? i know it should be getting faster on the hulls as you go.
Steve

Easy E
22-11-2005, 22:21
Yes, I am getting faster and finding shortcuts as I build more of these. It is really had for me to say as I don't sit down and do an entire tank all at once. I usually take it a page at a time. However, there are so many other distractions going on in my household that I can't just sit down and work a model. Usually it's one bit glued and then I am pulled in another direction. A rough estimate would be 3 hours per tank, not including the time it took to paint the hull on computer and print them out.

Ramon
22-11-2005, 22:37
Hey! gorgeous tanks! you need to take a look ath the BWC yahoo group... there are tons of plans for other vehicles an tasnks... titans also...

keep the great work!

Easy E
22-11-2005, 22:42
I am now a proud member. Thanks!

Griefbringer
24-11-2005, 19:16
Nice looking vehicles. I am also myself fond of cardboard modelling vehicles - found it to be nicer than constructing plastic kits. I do my own templates, so I can easily customise the vehicles. And it is not that much slower than carefully constructing a plastic kit. With a bunch of additions from bits box for detail and a proper paint job (I have never noticed any warping in the cardboard when painting).

BTW: If somebody is interested, here is a crude template of my own design for a generic armoured car or wheeled APC (written originally for Warzone Vermin APC)

http://users.tkk.fi/~rkoivune/trenchzone/vermin/

Placing a suitable gun on the turret and a quickly scratch-built heavy bolter (a simple boxy shape with a piece of round sprue for the barrel in front) on the hull, it would make for an alternative for the Chimeira.

Sgt John Keel
24-11-2005, 20:40
Looking nice! Have you considered inventing your own tank?

/Adrian

Griefbringer
24-11-2005, 21:31
A tank of my own design? No, I haven't really tried that yet, but I came up with another armoured car design that did not look particularly good. Currently I am working on a 19th century style riverboat (the construction has been ready for a while, but I should finish up the paintjob).

Griefbringer
25-11-2005, 11:59
Thinking of it, I came up with an urge to design a template for a Big Orky Vehicle. Need to start looking for specifications.

Easy E
25-11-2005, 18:54
Greifbringer- Do you use any computer programs to assist you or do you just use measurements and mathematics? I am interested in learning more about the construction of vehicle templates. Some people I have spoken to have talked about various computer programs to assist them.

Due to the Holiday I have not had the chance to work on my last tank. I also need to design a minesweeper for it. I think I am going to just make a standard dozer blade. That should be simple enough.

Griefbringer
25-11-2005, 20:08
I am happy enough with a paper, pen, ruler and a pocket calculator (in case I need to do some trigonometrics). On the computer side, various CAD programs can be handy but I haven't used them for this so far.

I am now designing and constructing new vehicles - started a separate thread about it on this forum.

Mojaco
07-12-2005, 10:30
I build a Titan using CAd software. It's called Solidworks and it's pretty inituative (sp?). It allows you to see the model before actually making it, preventing disappointments. The titan I build for instance was scaled up from Epic, simply measuring everything and then multiplying it by 9. Doing that and putting it in Solidworks I noticed it looked like crap due to some angles that were just off. A few easy adjustments and it looked fine.

Really recommended, but it does ask for quite some time investment.

titan pics in my signature btw.

Tom
08-12-2005, 00:44
Oh my god, that thing is VAST!

Orcdom
08-12-2005, 03:29
i noticed you havent updated your thread about it either.
Steve

Mojaco
09-12-2005, 21:20
Yea, cause there was no progress. I'll dig it up though, since I'll work on it tomorrow.

starlight
09-12-2005, 21:52
Exceptionally good work there. Props on the creativity. I'd play it any time.:D

While I wouldn't invest the time myself, I do see this as a huge benefit for making wrecked tanks for terrain instead of trashing an actual GW model.

Easy E
10-12-2005, 00:38
Sorry I haven't updated recently. I'm still working on that final tank. I am ashamed to say that it is not quite finished. Thanks for all your support folks.

Edit: I removed some comments for Mojaco and placed them in his thread.

icebergman
11-12-2005, 08:39
:evilgrin: Those are frikkin awesome!!!!! :evilgrin: Paper or not they rock!! Wish I could get ahold of the templates, the site isn't working for the downloads.:mad: :cries:

Easy E
12-12-2005, 22:24
Greetings!

I come bearing gifts for the Holiday season. The last Exterminator tank of the 1st Saint Paulus. This brings the company up to an even 10 battle tank strength.

Here we have Sergeant Major Hans Gruenner's Exterminator battle tank. It is equipped with a dozer blade for mine clearance.

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8871/warseer259tm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Here is a back view noting some of the detail.

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/1338/warseer262jz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now all that is left to do is to paint the barrels black on the interior per Anvil's Hammer's suggestion. That probably won't be done until next weekend, if I am lucky. I have to dig out the old paints, and that could take a while.

Regards.

Orcdom
13-12-2005, 04:50
sweet, it would now be nice to see unit shots, and whole armored company pictures.

i have oodles and oodles of paper plans, anything from most of the GW vehicles to paper terrain and you have inspired me to do some work with paper models. i am waiting till payday to buy some of the heavier papers for my vehicles (sturdiness and detailing), but i have been slowly working on some epic terrrain.

Steve

Farseer Razma
13-12-2005, 20:32
Now if only there were Eldar Templates...

Orcdom
14-12-2005, 02:19
i wouldnt even attempt to try a curved piece like eldar vehicles.
Steve

Easy E
14-12-2005, 03:58
I think that Dark Eldar Raiders and Ravagers could be done fairly easily.

However, Falcons, Wave Serpents, and Scorpions would be difficult. What curves, and me without my brakes!

By the way Orcdom, your wish is granted! Here is a picture of the entire force as it currently stands:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8392/warseer277dz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I'll see about getting a battle report going as well.

Orcdom
14-12-2005, 06:55
Sweet, i like it. congratulations on the hard work.

i have some pics of a scratchbuild of a Raider where the core is made from roughly a 1" diameter Dowel rod. and the rest is plasticard (not too shabby). i cant rem where i got the pictures but i wanted them for ideas how to make the bits from plasticard to convert some Vypers to Venoms for my Harlequin army.

Steve

Paradox
14-12-2005, 11:18
Hmmmm...I kind of agree with the argument that I enjoy knowing the cost of my armies, but at the same time that is some of the dumbest logic ever concieved- its toy soldiers people!

To you and the armoured company I'm dubbing the Paper Tigers, I say good job and take that Games Workshop!!

(I didn't read the entire thread- don't say I'm unoriginal and someone else has already used the Paper Tiger quip...that would suck)

General Samuel of the 101
16-12-2005, 21:47
It quite impressive......
for a paper model

Griefbringer
16-12-2005, 22:08
The titan I build for instance was scaled up from Epic, simply measuring everything and then multiplying it by 9.

Multipyling by 9 should make for quite a big model - AFAIK 40K models are only about 5 times the size of Epic ones.

Chaos and Evil
16-12-2005, 22:10
Multipyling by 9 should make for quite a big model - AFAIK 40K models are only about 5 times the size of Epic ones.

5 times exactly.

HeraldoftheGods
22-12-2005, 22:50
yeah, but the 9 times looks more impressive.

Fantastic army by the way. You now get to play the sorts of games most of us could only dream about (or require a lot of friends that we could borrow tanks from).

crashbang
24-12-2005, 11:06
brilliant tanks mate, but how easily do they fall apart, if at all? good luck with your first battle. u never know, in the far future, GW might go bankrupt, and turn to this method to make their models! and then charge 15 pounds for one but still

Easy E
04-01-2006, 20:01
If you use standard PVA they are very solid. The only pasrts that I have had a problem with are the Improved Comms on the Vanquishers. Both times they broke were due to my cat. She love's to play Warhammer with me.

However, on the experimental template's I only used a glue stick. The glue stick did not work so good, they fell apart after two months.

I haven't had much time to work on this project. However, I just got a box of plastic Cadians so I might be trying to add a couple Armored Fist squads. That will give me a chance to work on the Chimera templates.

Metal Fingered Villain
05-01-2006, 03:03
Where did you find those templates?

Orcdom
05-01-2006, 06:51
check the earlier pages, there are some hints IIRC.
Steve

AgentZero
01-02-2006, 08:13
Do'em in plasticard. They'll be sturdier.
Done right they'll look like normal models too.

Good luck with the cheap army tho:p
As long as it works and you have fun, go for it.

Axel
01-02-2006, 09:23
Great stuff, I am impressed. I tend to favour leaner barrels, though, especially on the Vanquishers - to the point where I replace those on the GW tanks with scratchbuild.

speedygogo
01-02-2006, 19:29
Very cool and for a fraction of the cost.

dracon magis
01-02-2006, 20:21
i would like template for a baneblade?

if anyone has one can they pm me so we can talk?

Orcdom
01-02-2006, 21:50
if you would look through this thread there was some places mentioned where to get the templates for the russes and the baneblades are in the same places, along with other super heavies.
Steve

Easy E
02-02-2006, 00:01
I have the designs for the chimeras done and printed so hopefully I might be able to get them put together soon. I have also managed to put some plastic guardsmen together. Here's hoping for progress.

The Machine GoD
02-02-2006, 06:39
The only thing I saw that seemed odd to me was the exterminator barrels were quite long compared to my version. I own like 4. Otherwise i think its quite cool. Game workshop stuff is quite expensive. Great idea

Easy E
02-02-2006, 23:23
Yes, the first one I did the barrels were far too long. The second one (with the dozer blade) I shortened the barrels a bit, and it looks much better.

Paddy
12-02-2006, 19:13
I build a Titan using CAd software. It's called Solidworks and it's pretty inituative (sp?). It allows you to see the model before actually making it, preventing disappointments. The titan I build for instance was scaled up from Epic, simply measuring everything and then multiplying it by 9. Doing that and putting it in Solidworks I noticed it looked like crap due to some angles that were just off. A few easy adjustments and it looked fine.

Really recommended, but it does ask for quite some time investment.

titan pics in my signature btw.

Heh. I use solidworks in uni - it is indeed a handy little program

Easy E: You are quite, quite mad. Loving the tanks. Kudos on the work. Take care.

Toppan
20-04-2006, 04:45
you are my hero
im going to do the same for most of my feral vehicles...screw 45+ USD for a trukk that can barely hold 4 orks :(

Inquisitor Konig
20-04-2006, 05:02
what's next for the cardboard army?

Quin 242
20-04-2006, 05:38
Dunno why I never saw this thread before.

Bloody brilliant. might be worth doing to paste templates to plasticard and recreate some behemoths with a bit of weight?

maraxis
20-04-2006, 14:51
This is incredible. I agree with other posters that doing these in plasticard would make them more durable, they then, however, would not be able to be printed by a computer, which not only gives you the score lines and cut lines but you can add in all the detail you want. I know that at a GW store or in a Tourney, you could not use them, however I would play against them.

Quin 242
21-04-2006, 01:47
... they then, however, would not be able to be printed by a computer, which not only gives you the score lines and cut lines but you can add in all the detail you want.

As indicated in my post above yours.. you could attach the templates right to the plasticard and then you could cut/bend from there with no worry about mis measuring... And you could PAINT the detail on like a proper modeler SHOULD do :)

And the plasticard could be varied in thickness for rivets and plates to give some depth. you just better invest in a stack of blades :) Plasticard kills themm pretty quickly in my experience :(

emperorattack
21-04-2006, 03:14
I dont like it it looks WAY to cartooney

Dark-Hummingbird
22-04-2006, 15:13
Your not playing that army on MY watch mate! How would you like it if I bough on cardboard cut out Titans or Orks?

Orcdom
22-04-2006, 15:53
wouldnt mind it, if you actually took the time to make something decent, but i guess you cant be arsed to build anything that GW does or doesnt make.

remember GW used a deoderant stick in thier RT books for a land speeder, whats wrong with building your own vehicles? the media built out of dont matter.



Steve

TeddyC
11-05-2006, 21:22
hold on.... didnt GW used to havea cardboard cut out of an orc dread?

Dude thats seriously cool... i mean GW encourage you to make your own models... and 'must be GW' doesnt apply to models you make entirely yourself... does it?

Great work... if it was me id want mine to look a little more realistic with little details... but thats still really cool.

Orcdom
11-05-2006, 22:06
hey paper tanks are a site better than a matchbox car used for this and a card board box used to that, anyone who wouldnt accept paper moddels that are actually done from patterns and the like are just selfish, among other things.

Steve

anarchistica
24-05-2006, 00:17
Kudos dude, they look awesome and this cracks me up because of that. :D

jansenm
24-05-2006, 04:24
I looks sweet
but I think it will be better if you used plasticard instead of paper

Zink
24-05-2006, 05:05
I made a griffon using these templates printed and then glued to light butyrate plastic. At first I thought it might be too light of material but after folding it into boxes it was tough enough. Never did paint it because I'm still undecided about what colour I want my armoured co to be. I'm happy with it for a first attempt scratch building and the fact it cost about $5.00 USD and several hours of work. My thanks to Easy E for the inspiration.

Easy E
24-05-2006, 06:15
Thanks for all the comments guys. I'm surprised this is still getting some play. I haven't had a lot of time to work on this project for a while now, and that makes me a sad panda.

I agree that plasticard would make a great tank as well. However, I chose this method for two reasons. First, I didn't have my paints handy so i would not be able to paint the vehicles up right. Secondly, i don't have any plasticard, but i did have a load of cardstock.

However, I have been experimenting with Photoshop, so hopefully I will be able to master that medium to create an even more detailed finished product.

@Zink. I believe you posted the Griffon photos here on Warseer and itlooked great! I encourage everyone to experiment more, and pay less!

marinesmarines
24-05-2006, 07:41
as long as it's proper sizing on the bottom of the hull I'll play against it ! (proper sizing so I can make sure my tactics work against it, such as space wolf scouts jumping out at the right angles of the board and still making melta hits lol)

brilliant

and I think a few people are unfortunately jealous.

Take pride in a $200 model? My old Dred that cost $30 weighs a pound more than your plastic one, and can crush it :)

With all these cheapo plastic models that are a bitch to glue together(my opinion, I dislike GW plastic), I think cardstock is a wise investment/replacement.

Give me pewter or give me $5 armies!

Zink
24-05-2006, 15:09
Yes, I posted a pic of it in the tread head thread. I got some more plastic but as it's summertime now I don't have as much time to play and paint my toys. I've got plans to do a few more tanks.

@marinesmarines. My griffon turned out slightly bigger(about 2mm) than a GW model. That was mostly because of the thickness of the plastic and how I scored it to bend at the corners.

For the Purists who only want GW models. That's your choice, I've got enough GW models to field large armies if I want to play in a tourney or with you. But in my house and group anything goes as we all have kids, not a lot of money and all the rest that goes with being a middle income adult. I like GW games and models but if I can find cheaper or interesting models elsewhere, I'll take them too. It's about having fun not spending millions just to say look at how much I paid for 10 cents of plastic.

Yorkiebar
07-06-2006, 17:41
I love this project, man. The best part is that as long as they don't look too closely or pick them up, GW staff will probably assume they're proper GW miniatures.

Also, I can't see them being damaged by a fall, so you could play catch with one (to the utter horror of other hobbyists in the store).

Ixajin
07-06-2006, 20:34
Easy E, great job!

Tonberry
07-06-2006, 21:02
Bloody brilliant, I envy you, anything involving glue and paper and I have white sludgy paste over the walls in minutes >.<

Easy E
07-06-2006, 21:25
Update: I have recently gotten off my bum and done something. I have finished assembling one of the side track sections for a pair of Chimeras. This is the first new models I have put together in a while.

I will try to get some pics up, but no promises. I have covertly been doing much of the assembly at work, so no camera handy.

Edit: Darn, I can't type or structure a proper sentence.

Easy E
14-06-2006, 22:46
I have some new pictures of the Chimera I am putting together.

Here is the side tracks section:
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9202/warseer284lx.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer284lx.jpg)

Next is a closer look at the symbols and writing. On this model I am still using MSpaint instead of Photoshop to match with my other tanks. Plus, like I mentioned earlier i am covertly doing this at work so my resources are limited...

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6285/warseer297ob.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer297ob.jpg)

Here is the Hull and tracks compared to a poorly painted stock Hellhound:

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1752/warseer308wz.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer308wz.jpg)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/563/warseer310kz.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer310kz.jpg)

Notice that not all of the detailing is done, such as a barrel for the Heavy Bolter, but I will tackle that once the basic turret is complete. I'm not quite sure how I am going to tackle the Multi-laser so suggestions are appreciated.

Easy E
20-06-2006, 03:37
Here is some more updates on my Chimeras. The basic hulls and turrets are complete. The detail is still required. I need to figure out how I want to do a multi-laser. Perhaps I will just make them mount a turret Heavy Bolter, I know how to make those. Then, I will add a smoke launcher and a barrel to the Heavy Bolter.

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1907/warseer341ku.th.jpg (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer341ku.jpg)


I haven't decided on a squad color designation or the tank numbers yet. Since they are APC's I was thinking of skipping the tank numbers. The iconography clearly links them to the 1st Saint Paulus.

Next is a pic of the Chimeras with a Barry for scale.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1686/warseer351ua.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer351ua.jpg)

I also haven't decided if I should kit these out with anything for gear. They weren't orignally part of my army list, but I built these so I could swap vehicles around for different scenarios and points limits. That's causing a bit of a problem with my Company organizational structure, and for how I should kit them.

Easy E
22-06-2006, 20:52
I keep forgetting to grab some black stir straws from my work to finish off my Chimeras. So no finished pics.

However, I did expreiment in putting together a Chimeradon out of the Chimera hulls and my Leman Russ Turrets. Let me know what you think.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/359/warseer328bi.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer328bi.jpg)

If you don't know a Chimeradon was a Chimera chassis with a Battle Cannon instead of the multi-laser. It could still carry troops like a normal Chimera, and had the same armor. Many people felt that the Chimera turret was too small for a Battle Cannon and I agree. Hence I added the Leman Russ Turret.

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3684/warseer339mp.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer339mp.jpg)

I'm interested to see any VDR rules you folks come up with.

Orcdom
22-06-2006, 21:23
you ought to take some heavy card and build up the rings on the Battlecannons so they at a distance still look different.

Steve

Easy E
22-06-2006, 21:45
Just to clarify, do you mean just the Chimeradon's battle cannon, or all the battle cannons I have made so far?

I was thinking of doing something along those lines when/if I built a Basilisk or Destroyer.

Orcdom
22-06-2006, 23:29
i just noticed it here because if the body style of the chimera. where the battlecannon turret blends more on the chimera and dont look as bulky. on the russes you know its a battle cannon because its a russ. here it looks like a thick autocannon.

Steve

Easy E
22-06-2006, 23:40
Thanks for the clarification. Hmmm... Auto-cannons you say. That sounds like a nice upgrade too. All I would need to do is re-use my Exterminator cannon barrel.

Edit: I could easily make a set of Chimera/Leman Russ turrets with varient barrels so I could switch out. For example, for Chimeras I could make an Auto-cannon and a Heavy Bolter Turret. Know you've got me thinking.

Incidentally, should this be moved into the project logs? Is this really a project when there isn't a goal anymore?

Orcdom
22-06-2006, 23:48
wintermute had originally moved my Mining colony to the logs when i PM'd him but you may want to leave it here, on the logs you can make a post and in 4 hrs it be on the secondpage.

the autocannon , whay not make a salamander scout vehicle to ride along side the vanquisher for your HQ's?

if you have allready just shoot me. :p
Steve

Easy E
23-06-2006, 00:06
I was contemplating that based on a Griffon hull I have, but the crew becomes an issue for me. I can't model them out of paper yet, and I don't have enough extra guardsmen to go around. I also checked the WD armored company list and the Salamander can not have an armored crew compartment, so I can't even enclose it.

I was thinking of VDRing an Imperial Guard Command Vehicle based on the Griffon hull with an armored crew compartment. The only weapon would be the hull heavy bolter, but it would have souped up engines and improved comms as an integrated option. I even considered making it wheeled. I thought it would be good for special scenarios and such.

I also consider making an ARV vehicle, like the Trojan or Atlas(?). It makes sense in an Armored Company. However, I don't have the rules, so it would mostly just be for fun. (Or VDR)

Orcdom
23-06-2006, 03:56
what about thunderer siege tanks and destroyers? maybe a squadron of each? FW is pricy as is, and i am sure you can find templates of those or modify your russ templates.

Steve

Brimstone
23-06-2006, 21:54
I've removed a section of this thread, please stay on topic in future.

The Warseer Inqusition

Easy E
23-06-2006, 22:45
@Orcdom

I have contemplated Thunderer's and Destroyers. Both would be an easy conversion of the basic LR hulls I have.

I have hit a couple of snags. First, the stir straws I use to make the multi-laser, smoke launchers, and other assortd bits are all out at my work!!!! Oh the humanity. In addition, my wife is taking the Digital Camera out of town for a week, so no new updates for a while.

However, I will take the next week to try and develop new Chimera turrets, and a Hellhound upgrade.

Ray K.
23-06-2006, 23:54
edit -

what the hell am I thinking? I'm replying to something from the first page, lol.

Orcdom
24-06-2006, 03:21
a Manticore would be a nice piece to have in there as well. just mainly for looks if nothing else.

lil off topic but have you tried any of the plans out there for the paper drop pods?
Steve

Easy E
24-06-2006, 05:37
No, but I have them. I have some foamcore that would be a nice way to beef up the stabilizers. The rest could be simple cardstock. I really don't have much use for Drop Pods, no Marines.

The Manticore... hmmm. That seems to be a modified Chimera chassis. The missiles seem like they could be a challenge in paper. However, I could potentially use some other bits for that part.

I just made and printed out some alternate Chimera turrets. I will put them together this weekend. I also did some pre-liminary work on a Hellhound. I guess we'll have to wait and see how that turns out. Yaaargh, I wish i still had my camera handy!

Orcdom
24-06-2006, 07:15
those big fuel drums with the strapping i think which is on the FW hellhound would really set it apart from your run of the mill chimera.

Steve

Easy E
26-06-2006, 23:04
Some progress. I put together a heavy Flamer turret and hull Heavy Flamer for one of my Chimera. The other is hull Heavy Bolter and Turret Heavy Bolter. The Auto-cannon didn't work out as I had planned. I scavenged all over town and couldn't find black stir staws anywhere. That is frustrating to me as I would like them for Heavy Bolter barrels and smoke launchers.

Any suggestions on how to model a rough terrain mod on a Chimera? I have all ready used a bulldozer for a mine sweeper.

I have also put together the side tracks for some type of Chimera variant, either a Hellhound or Griffon. I haven't decided. For the Griffon I will have to create a armored crew compartment. The Hellhound is easier, but the Griffon will challenge me more.

@Orcdom. I was playing around with the Forgeworld Hellhound style, but the GW one is much easier to produce. We'll see. I also like the elongated barrel of the FW's Hellhound.

Orcdom
27-06-2006, 00:33
i could care less about the elongated barrell, i was mainly after the different style fuel cell.

for the rough terrain modification, a wench on the front and back should work well there. esp if you can get something to resemble cables or use moddeling chain.

and also one of thse V shaped blades like you probly have seen on some toys, that sorta look like a large snow blade would work as a different styled dozer blade.


Steve

Easy E
29-06-2006, 21:45
I just got my hands on more black stir straws. Early next week I will have the pics up of the finished Chimeras. I'm as giddy as a school girl!

Easy E
05-07-2006, 21:50
As promised, here are the pictures of the finished Chimeras.

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/4596/warseer366yq.th.jpg (http://img468.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer366yq.jpg)

This on is armed with dual heavy flamers and a rough terrain mod. The idea behind this configuration was that this Armored Fist (or stormtrooper) squad would be used to dig out enemy infantry from cover.

Overall, I am not entirely pleased with it. I don't know what I was thinking with the rough terrain mod, the detailing is weak. I could have done much better. Stupid work making me...work. I thought I was there to build models. The heavy flamers look too much like heavy stubbers. If it wasn't for the ignition, no one would know.

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/2359/warseer375eu.th.jpg (http://img468.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer375eu.jpg)

I am much happier with the heavy bolter turret. You can easily tell what it is, as the look of the heavy bolter in the turret mirrors the one on the hull.

The auto-cannon turret I was putting together did not turn-out as planned. Next, I will try and make an alternate multi-laser turret for the heavy bolter chimera so it will be able to swap out as needed.

I have also put the side tracks together for another chimera based vehicle. There is no need to post the pictures of these as they are exactly the same as the previous chimera track pictures, but with different iconography. As mentioned earlier, this is the beginnings of a Griffon. More on that later I hope.

Orcdom
05-07-2006, 22:46
the dozer blade if you had it curved inward some like an actual snow plow, i know it would be a pain in the ass to get it to come together right in the middle but it would give it a different look, that i think your after.

looking good tho. i wish i had the time and patience. i might start with the drop pod pland soon tho, because i just got a new printer, :D

Steve

Easy E
06-07-2006, 00:12
It's hard to tell in the pic, but it is curved over slightly. In retrospect, I should have curved it over more. Actually, I should have just done a better job on it all together, but instead I half-assed it due to time. Unfortunately, you can tell on the finished model.

When you get that Drop Pod together be sure to post it on Warseer. The only thing about the templates, is you will need some material to bulk out the stabilizer fins such as foam borad, cardboard, MDF, or whatever?

Tycho
07-07-2006, 10:06
for a more rigid force, couldnt you use the templates on plasticard?

Easy E
10-07-2006, 21:57
Yes, you could. In fact, plasticard has many features to it that would make it beneficial. It is sturdier, and it is capable of accepting paint like a normal model. For most people, I would recommend this approach.

However, cardstock has some advantages of it's own. It can be worked using regular office products (i.e. scissors and PVA). Instead of painting, details can be added directly onto the template using MSPaint or Photoshop. Three, cardstock can be acquired at almost any office supply store where plasticard would require me to drive at least an hour. Fourth, you can get a lot more cardstock for your money than plasticard. Five, cardstock can be run directly through a printer.

Much of this project was an exercise in making due with what I had. It really forces you to get creative. Plus, I like being cost-effective.

Orcdom
11-07-2006, 02:10
heh, cost effective, now thats funny considering this thread

Steve

TKitch
11-07-2006, 05:24
if you have the right inkjet printer you can run plasticard right thru it.

A friend of mine had one that would print on almost any surface up to 1/8" (or as it 1/4") thick! :)

Even glass. Yes he tried.


But I should say, I love the work you've done so far. I may try this sometime, keep me busy at work! ;)

Easy E
11-07-2006, 05:53
Ha ha, you hit on another reason why I use cardstock. I've been using my companies Laser Jet, the downside is it only does black and white. Hence, the gray scale camo pattern.

Orcdom
11-07-2006, 14:37
i wish i had access to one of those flat styled printers, mine bends 180 degrees.

Steve

cpl_hicks
11-07-2006, 14:58
i wish i had access to one of those flat styled printers, mine bends 180 degrees.

most printers allow two feeds, a front feed and a back feed ive got a bog standard hp deskjet and its got two feeds

Easy E
17-07-2006, 23:46
This weekend I managed to get the base model of the Griffon done. I will post pics later this week. Now I need to figure out how to make an armoerd crew compartment.

I also made a multi-laser turret for one of my chimera. That way I can trade between heavy bolter and multi-laser as needed.

As I was putting the chimera turret together, it reminded me of the las-cannon turrets on the top of the twin heavy bolter turrets on the Baneblade. That got me thinking about what other parts I would need but I all ready possess templates for. After all, I'm not terribly satisfied with the existing templates I have found for the Baneblade. That project was floating around in the back of my head well I worked on my Griffon.

Orcdom
18-07-2006, 17:04
layer up some thicker card and make it mre armor on the turrett, you shouldnt really have to model that since that should be on the inside.

Steve

Charax
18-07-2006, 21:21
I would grab some accessories from the Imperial tank kits (I'm sure you know someone who has some of these) and add those in appropriate places, they'd help make the surfaces look less flat and plain.

Nice work! may have to liberate some card from work and try that myself, pity so few templates exist for Chaos vehicles. Paper defiler, anyone?

Easy E
19-07-2006, 23:45
Oddly enough, I don't know anyone with the tank accesory sprue. Most of the people I know have had their tanks since 2nd edition.

As for Chaos vehicles, I have seen Rhinos and land Raiders, so it wouldn't be hard to chaos them up. Defiler would be great.

As promised, here is the Griffon pictures. Here it is with the basic hull, tracks, and weapon platform.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7679/warseer38oi0.th.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer38oi0.jpg)

You can see how this would be an easy basis for a Basilisk conversion. On an earlier page, you can see a white card mock-up I did as a test. This could also be the basic hull for a Salamander as well. Here is a better view of the bed.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9673/warseer39bd8.th.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer39bd8.jpg)

Next is the heavy mortar itself. You can see the detail on the support struts and the elevation portions. Nothing spectacular, but not bad for cardstock.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7431/warseer40mj4.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer40mj4.jpg)

Easy E
19-07-2006, 23:46
Here is the mortar mounted on the hull. With their powers combined they are a Griffon.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3166/warseer41fn5.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer41fn5.jpg)

I was surprised at how quickly I can punch these things out now. Even "new' designs since they are all basically the same techniques. However, I have found that my familiarity with the techniques and designs has led me to make some sloppy errors in my haste.

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/8922/warseer42kv7.th.jpg (http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer42kv7.jpg)

Here is the basics. Next I want to design an armored Crew Compartment to make the entire vehicle enclosed. The only thing that will make this difficult is that MSPaint doesn't have a ruler option and can't draw in "true" scale on the screen. This means my measurements will really be guesstimates. Guess and Check is not resource efficient.

Orcdom
20-07-2006, 00:25
more like a griffon bub, or seige tank, try lengthening the barrell and slimming it down. at least lengthen it

Steve

Easy E
20-07-2006, 01:15
It was suppose to be a Griffon, but I could easily make it a Basilisk by lengthening the barrel and adding a gun shield(?). How would the gun look different on a Medusa?

Easy E
21-07-2006, 21:42
I believe I mentioned eariler that I built an alternate Chimera turret so I could either equip it with a multi-laser of a heavy bolter. I finally got around to a picture of it.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5973/warseer43pb6.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer43pb6.jpg)

Here it is on the Chimera

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5876/warseer44cw3.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warseer44cw3.jpg)

So far no progress on the armored crew compartment for my Griffon.

mjc1000
28-07-2006, 22:15
painfully I have to agree.


i must aswell agree i like what you are doing but you are cuting corners no-offence but your kind of cheating

Zealot
29-07-2006, 00:26
i must aswell agree i like what you are doing but you are cuting corners no-offence but your kind of cheating

I believe that this is a hobby and therefore allows people to do with it as they please. I would never do something like that (heck, I don't have the skills!), but that doesn't mean it is cheating. How many people can sculpt their own figures, using very little actual GW model? Is that cheating? These tanks, in a sense, are just EXTREME conversions. That's the way I look at it, anyway. But I also understand that everyone will have differing opinions. I just hate to see people discredit the unique work being done here.

Easy E
29-07-2006, 01:47
i must aswell agree i like what you are doing but you are cuting corners no-offence but your kind of cheating

Cheating? I don't understand, could you elaborate?

I will agree that I am cutting corners. On some of the models you can see when I got lazy.

In addition, by not having to paint them every time I make a new one I am assuredly cutting a huge corner.

Orcdom
29-07-2006, 03:46
well at least you have the patience for paper models that the ones are calling cheating are usig as a copout, you dont like it un subscribe from the thread, us that have been here and stay here like it.

the hobby is different for each of us, dont ruin it for someone else because they use paper for thier models and you dont like it.

at least i think they look bettter than the tank replicas people use from the likes of tamiya or other places as well.

so dont go preaching that he is cheating, what this hobby is for you is not the same for all people. and i would love to play against this army any time.
Steve

Easy E
02-08-2006, 02:35
Just a quick update. I took a closer look at the Griffon Chassis and determined that it would not be a good base for a Forgeworld style Hellhound. The turret would not fit snuggly on the chassis and would look awkward with the big round fule canister. It looks like I will probably make a more GW-esque hellhound when I get to it.

No real progress on the armored crew compartment.

Puffin Magician
02-08-2006, 11:16
I'm interested to see any VDR rules you folks come up with.IIRC the Chimera variants carried 6 troops, so were sort of Commandish vehicles. The Chimedon had a shorter-ranged Battlecannon replacing the Multilaser turret, Chimerax had quad Autocannons, and the Chimerro had a rack of Hunter Killer Missiles.

...Auto-cannons you say.Exterminator, Chimerax, or Hydra? What about the elusive Sabre Tank Hunter; a Rhino given a longbarreled Autocannon for light Anti Tank duties? Perhaps one or two has made it's way into your Imperial Guard armour pool.

The Manticore... hmmm. I could potentially use some other bits for that part.I found that 1/48 scale [I think?] Phoenix missiles from an F-14 Tomcat kit worked wonderfully for scale and proportions. Some model shops have Ordnance kits filled with bombs and missiles that might have the ones you're looking for. Even cardstock tanks look totally badass with a set of huge honkin' missiles stuck to it.

DarkstarSabre
29-08-2006, 12:32
Your not playing that army on MY watch mate! How would you like it if I bough on cardboard cut out Titans or Orks?


Frankly I don't think anyone would give a damn. If you put the thing together with as much detail as Easy E has done with these tanks then props to you for it.

Easy E? Brilliant bloody idea. Unique in its own way. Ignore the naysayers and whiners who decide to call you a cheater because you build something to the same level of detail or damn near close in a different medium than plastic, resin or lead. Most impressive work. Any future plans for titans or flyers?

Easy E
29-08-2006, 22:32
At the rate I get hobby time lately, I will be lucky if I can finish the armored crew compartment for my Griffon. I don't think I will be tackling any titans or flyers. I have toyed very briefly with the idea of a Super Heavy Tank. However, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Thanks for the encouragement.

Edit: @ Puffin Magician- Glad to see you back after a bit of a hiatus.

Seerluminatti
14-09-2006, 22:26
Congratulations on the work you have done with your Tanks. Id have no problem playing against or alongside your army as the detail and effort put into them truly shows through. They are a work of sheer creativity and love of the game and if others cannot appreciate that fact then perhaps their love of the hobby is eclipsed by their dedication to the GW plastic molding company.

BloodOrkClanBoss
20-10-2006, 03:37
These tanks are really well done. I'd play you any time if you put them down on the table. These other people are offended because they don't have the skill to do what you are doing, and are jealous.

GW stores seem very dodgy to me. It's as if you can't go into them to play unless you have a fully painted Golden Demon quality army. I prefer my non-GW afilliated LGS and my friend's houses to play. They don't have any shoddy rules.

DoomedToRepeatIt
29-10-2006, 07:12
Good job, Easy. A friend of mine built his DE Raiders out of cardstock and they look just as close to GW stuff as yours do. Mad props to you and all the other modelers out there with the ability to do this sort of stuff. And yes, I would play with/against your army.

doghouse
29-10-2006, 12:28
Well I think that it's brilliant what you've done here mate. No way I could ever afford an armoured company either and this is an innovative way around it to be fair.
Any chance of a card stock Emperor Titan? :D

Zink
29-10-2006, 13:24
The thought that people would be upset about your tanks makes me want to laugh. Get a life!!! It's a game and toys we're talking about here. Man I hate GW nazis. Can't use other minis, can't make your own stuff. And here I thought that the point was to enjoy ourselves and have fun. Thanks to your inspiration I'll most likely never buy another Imperial tank. Not much time right now for modelling but I've started on making a couple of salamanders for my armoured company. I like GW models but I just don't have the spare cash anymore to buy everything I want. I'm not ready to sell the wife and kids yet.

Easy E
17-11-2006, 07:57
At long last, I have completed the armored crew compartment for my Griffon. Here are the pics:

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5363/dsc03233ca4.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03233ca4.jpg)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/584/dsc03235fo0.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03235fo0.jpg)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2998/dsc03236xx9.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03236xx9.jpg)

I didn't actually attach it to the Griffon hull so I can make alternate crew compartments with different weapon options and just slide them onto the Griffon hull. That way I can easily switch out between a Griffon, Bassie, or Medusa. However, I will probably just stick with the options available in the WD Armored Company list.

In other news I have also been working on a Hellhound. Many posters were encouraging me to try a Forgeworld style Hellhound with the large tank in the back. To my and their regret, I was not able to work in out using paper and the chassis designs I had.

However, I have put together the pieces I need for a GW style Hellhound as seen here:

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8007/dsc03243so5.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03243so5.jpg)

I have not decided if I should create a new hull, of just make it a optional swap with my other chimera hulls.

Easy E
24-11-2006, 06:54
I have completed work on a Destroyer Tank Hunter. Overall, it's not too shabby, but still not 100% where I would want the model to be. From arm's length away it looks good.

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5691/dsc03297bf3.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03297bf3.jpg)

I like the heavy stubber I built. In the future I will try an make an elongated barrel for it. I forgot to take a picture of the top cover, but it has the Aquilla on the top that I am very happy with.

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/678/dsc03299iv8.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03299iv8.jpg)

Looks like that hatch cover is a bit crooked. D'oh!

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6724/dsc03302xb8.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03302xb8.jpg)

Another mistake I made, was that I used a template of the standard Leman hull, and forgot to color in the section where the Laser Destroyer Cannon goes, so the backing is white, instead of grey or black.

On to the next tank. I'll leave it up to you what you guys want to see next.

1. Completed Hellhound
2. Armored Crew Compartment Basilisk
3. Demolisher
4. Scylla Light Tank as seen here: http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/imperialguard/painting/tankette/default.htm

Let me know so I can get to work.

Easy E
27-11-2006, 09:47
Well, it looks like the overwhelming response is to do whatever I want next. With that in mind, I will probably build the Hellhound and then Basilisk as I all ready have what I need. I have also been experimenting with the templates for the Scylla.

Althanan
27-11-2006, 16:44
Bah, thought I'd posted. Computer musta fudged.

Anyhow, I wanted to congratulate you on this :) It's an awesome project E, and I respect you for undertaking it.

Also, I had a vote for the Scylla, but it got lost in transition...

bugbait_nz
27-11-2006, 21:13
I like your Griffin, very nice. I would love to do a battlefield of destroyed vehicles one day and will have to scratch build them as all of yours look great.
I you have problems making the weapon barrels nice and round try dragging the card from under a ruler at 70 degrees or so, or use a sharp table edge and drag it over it so that it puts a bend in for you then all you have to do is glue it up.

Bugbait out.

Arch-Traitor Horus
02-12-2006, 09:17
since the site dont work no more anyone know other sites you can get these from

Codsticker
02-12-2006, 15:03
At this point, how big is your Armoured Column (in terms of both points and vehicles)?

Easy E
02-12-2006, 16:35
Points? I don't know. I have a core 2,000 pt list which is ten vehicles. 2 Vanquisher Command Tanks, 1 Ace Exterminator, 1 Troop Exterminator, 4 Troop Leman Russ, and 2 Heavy Support Conquerors.

For variety I have, 1 dual heavy flamer chimera, a normal chimera, a Griffon, and a Laser Destroyer. So 14 tank hulls total. I then have some odds and ends for weapon swaps.

I should get an army photo.

Edit: As for where to get tank templates, use your google-fu. It took me about 6 hours of searching.

Easy E
03-12-2006, 14:11
I completed the Armored Crew Compartment for the Basilisk. Essentially, it is simply a new weapon from that of the Griffon's Armored Crew Compartment. I did not make a new hull.

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/7661/dsc03369me0.th.jpg (http://img333.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03369me0.jpg)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4181/dsc03371xa3.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03371xa3.jpg)

You can see that I made the Armored Crew Compartments detachable. This way I can choose to field a Griffon or a Basilisk depending on the situation and mood. In addition, I can field the Griffon as open topped or closed. This hull is proving to be very versatile.

What's this?

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6812/dsc03373te2.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03373te2.jpg)

It is a mock-up of the Scylla Light Tank to make sure that the template would go together the right way. You know, all shapes pointing the right direction, colored sides showing, accessories would fit, etc. It is made out of copier paper and will be disposed of now. It was just a test since I had to work up new templates for the Scylla.

This shot shows the Scylla with the Bassie in the background to give a sense of scale. Hopefully, I will have three of these to field as Armored Crew Compartment Sentinels. I'm thinking I will try to arm them with an Auto-cannon.

Codsticker
03-12-2006, 18:17
What is the Scylla?

On another note I have obtained through nefarious means (:evilgrin: ) the Armoured Battlegroup list form Imperial Armour 1. have you had a look at it? If so what do you think of the list?

Easy E
04-12-2006, 07:11
I have not seen the Armored Battlegroup list, but instead use the Armored Company Rules found here:
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/imperialguard/gaming/ac_rules/default.htm

Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Since I am using the list above, I have been limiting myself to the vehicles found there. So no Hydra, no Medusa, no Thunderer (and I love the Thunderer), no auto-cannon Chimeras, etc.

As for the Scylla- It is a light tankette conversion used to represent a armoerd crew compartment sentinel. Take a look here:
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/imperialguard/painting/tankette/default.htm

Easy E
15-12-2006, 10:47
I have completed a Scylla model and would like your feedback on the design.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8315/dsc03463gd7.th.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03463gd7.jpg)

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1495/dsc03467jf2.th.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03467jf2.jpg)

Here it is with one of my Russes for scale.

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/6865/dsc03470lz2.th.jpg (http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03470lz2.jpg)

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4440/dsc03471zp4.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03471zp4.jpg)

I know that the auto-cannon isn't straight.

What do you all think of the design? Is it suitable for use as a Sentinel?

Edit: A dear reader requested a shot of the entire company so far. I have the photos, but I will not be able to post them until later this weekend.

Easy E
16-12-2006, 12:30
Here are the Pics of my full AC with all of the hulls and kit. I wanted to get an action shot of them on my table, but the family wouldn't give me a moment. I'm lucky I got these.

http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/4780/dsc03473zl5.th.jpg (http://img344.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03473zl5.jpg)

Above left to right: Conqueror, Conqueror, Exterminator, Exterminator Ace Hans Gruenner

http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/4324/dsc03474mv2.th.jpg (http://img344.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03474mv2.jpg)

Above left to right: Chimera with Heavy Flamers and Rough Terrain Mod, Heavy Bolter Chimera, Bassie with armored crew, Griffon crew compartment (no hull), Destroyer with Heavy Stubber

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8574/dsc03475su0.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03475su0.jpg)

Above left to right: Scylla Tankette (Sentinel with armored crew and auto-cannon), Leman Russ, Commissar Eriksson's Vanquisher, Griffon Heavy Mortar (no hull)

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1855/dsc03476me7.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03476me7.jpg)

Above left to right: Multi-laser chimera turret, Hellhound turret and fuel tanks (both with no hulls), 2 leman Russ, Col. Thomas Wolfe's Vanquisher, Leman Russ.

Easy E
23-12-2006, 16:38
I printed up what I need for a second Scylla Tankette and also have the hull for my Hellhound sitting around and ready to go.

Don't expect to see those anytime soon as I have begun work on a new project. I enjoyed working the Scylla templates so much that I decided to build a staff car/command vehicle for a Regimental HQ (as opposed to Company HQ as represented by Red Squadron's Vanquisher).

I have done some concept work and hunting around for inspiration. I plan on creating a template that crosses these designs:

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8929/26rollspinm7.th.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=26rollspinm7.jpg)

Rolls Royce

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/133/hummveehb8.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hummveehb8.jpg)

Hummvee

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5161/40kcarfc2.th.png (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=40kcarfc2.png)

Some concept art for a 40K civilian ground car

We'll see what I can come up with. Since this will be a completely original design, I'm hoping to be able to post the templates in this thread. We will see.

Easy E
24-12-2006, 07:10
All right, here are some draft mock-ups of the staff car I was designing. This thing really needs a name and some VDR rules. Can you fine readers help me out a little?

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9362/dsc03501xb0.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03501xb0.jpg)

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1921/dsc03502cf8.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03502cf8.jpg)

I know it must look like a car because my two year old daughter got a hold of it and started pushing it around making little vroom, vroom sounds. It was cute until she crushed it. Oh well. The little whipper-snapper is just too fast for the Old Man.

However, by putting this together I all ready saw some opportunities for design enhancement. I went back to the template and detailed the fenders more. Plus, I wanted a six wheeled car, but for some reason only made up 4 full wheels. I went back and fixed that little problem. What do you guys think?

Here is some scale shots with a Chimera and an officer model.

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/948/dsc03505pe1.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03505pe1.jpg)

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/8342/dsc03509dq2.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03509dq2.jpg)

It's designed to be smaller than a Chimera.

If anyone wants the templates for this let me know in this thread and I will post them here.

buzzin_yoof
27-12-2006, 06:38
Sorry - not impressed. Good effort and commitment, but your army looks like what it is - cardboard cutouts.

Quin 242
27-12-2006, 07:12
The staff car is a decent.
BUT as a design element, the half doors over the wheels wouldn't help the VIP getting into or out of it look very elegant...
I think it should have a giant side hinge hatchback. The whole back open out to the side on hinges to let the VIP stand up in the vehicle and then graciously step down and out onto the red carpet.

Also the flat front is kinda lame. Can you angle it back and put a V shape into it like a rolls royce?
I.e. Lean it back with wings angled off from the ^ in the front?

Easy E
29-12-2006, 08:00
I totally agree about the front. I'm trying to do some work on modifiying it now.

I was determined to make it 6-wheeled, and the back doors took the brunt of the damage from that design element. If it was only four wheels, the backdoors wouldn't be a problem.

I'm not sure the hinged backdoor would help to much either, because the staff would always be at the back of the vehicle. Any other suggestions?

Thanks for the feedback.

Quin 242
29-12-2006, 09:57
What do you mean the staff would be at the back?
If the whole rear was a door and the seats were on the right and left versus facing front, there would be plenty of transport room?

Easy E
29-12-2006, 12:27
Sorry, a half thought. The staff would always have to exit and enter through the back. I know that was the point of your post, but I'm not sure that adds to the dignity of the Regimental Commander per se. However, it is easy enough to incorporate into the design, and it seems the most feasible idea. I suppose the good lo' Chimera is a back exit only vehicle as well.

Sojourner
29-12-2006, 13:35
That's still a fairly enormous car. At least the size of a hummer, but maybe that was your intention.

Easy E
30-12-2006, 08:00
Yes, I wanted to mix the Hummer and a Rolls-Royce. Plus, I have the feeling that the Imperium builds things big and chunky as a design motif.

jasevx
12-01-2007, 20:09
Keep it going big Easy!

Some of these critics of your work forget (or are to young to remember), that when Space Hulk came out, there was no vehicles, and GW sold cardboard templates to make them.

Theres to sides to this hobby, and your direction is allowing you to 'game', and the models look perfect!

Believe me I'm jealous, my two pups ate an exterminator and sentinel today, costing me ?70. You've built an army for less than that, keep it up!

madd0ct0r
13-01-2007, 16:43
lurvley work. I think I've just halfed the cost of my mech SoB.
three ideas for you, scoring detail on the 'inside' side of the card when it's still flat so you get a raised effect. not sure how well that would work though, and might weaken them a little.
second is for your staff car - why not have the wheels underneath with only the bottom segment showing. Realistically, you'd still have huge wheel arches inside the car but it would pass quick inspection.
or move the second wheel to 'spare' wheel status like the rollsroyce. you still get the visual impact of 3 wheels but solves your engineering problem

Easy E
21-01-2007, 07:31
Thanks for all the comments.

I've had only a little bit of time to work on this lately. I have the tracks to my Hellhound done, but I've posted pics of chimera tracks before so their isn't much new to be seen there. Just some scripting/iconography.

As for the staff car, I am making some modifications to the front/hood area to make it less boxy. Also, I might try to make it thinner. I'm also thinking I might move the double wheel to the front section similar to what maddd0ct0r said, except I want it to be an actual wheel, not just a spare. This will hopefully fix the rear door problem, but it may make the entire thing look backwards. Lastly, I think it needs a front bumper.

Easy E
26-01-2007, 12:16
Greetings,

I have completed work on the Hellhound. This makes the 15th full tank I've completed. Without further ado...

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8470/dsc03825yq7.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03825yq7.jpg)

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8663/dsc03831oj5.th.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03831oj5.jpg)

As for the Staff/Armored Car, I have printed out the mock-ups for a second potential design that fixes the boxiness of the front, and reduces the width of the vehicle to make it look trimmer. We will see if these "improvements" work out.

I'm still not sure how to fix the door problem we talked about earlier. I have a snazzy trunk, like on the Rolls-Royce, that I am loathe to remove for rear hatch access. On this test, I may try and tuck the wheel wells under the car more and see if that makes for a more believable rear door.

Easy E
05-02-2007, 10:15
While at work I decided to create the order of battle for the 1st Saint Paulus. It will give me a guide to work towards and allow me to properly mark my tanks per the Regimental Organization.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/55/1stsaintpaulusorderofbapp8.th.png (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1stsaintpaulusorderofbapp8.png)

The line color of the box is the Company color, and the box is the individual unit color. So a red line with a blue box would be represented on the tank as:

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4899/compsquadcolorexamplepq1.png (http://imageshack.us)

I am currently working on the Chimera CCV (Combat Command Vehicle), what form this takes is still up in the air.

Easy E
10-02-2007, 07:12
I have completed work on the Chimera CCV upgrade for the Regimental Command Vehicle per my Org Chart.

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/9093/dsc03966qu3.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03966qu3.jpg)

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/2173/dsc03967mi7.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03967mi7.jpg)

Essentially, this is a modified armored crew compartment that can be added onto the ubiquitous Griffon Hull.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9897/dsc03972tv2.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03972tv2.jpg)

Here is the before mentioned Griffon hull with the CCV upgrade. Essentially, this vehicle uses the standard Chimera rules with a "turret" heavy bolter that I will use as a hull mount instead. It then has the additional upgrades of smoke, pintle heavy stubber, and improved comms as standard.

I am currently in the process of making a dedicated Griffon Hull for this vehicle instead of using the Griffon hull I have all ready built (as seen in the picture above).

The new mock-up for the staff car is sitting on my desk ready to be built. I have not given up on that process. It gives me a good opportunity to expand my scratchbuilding skills, create a great objective piece, act as nice terrain, and add unique vehicle to my collection.

rev
10-02-2007, 07:34
kudos to you fella!

loving it.

Easy E
03-03-2007, 12:04
Due to time constraints I will probably not have much time to work on the staff car. So, I'm inviting all of you (Yes, YOU!) to take the opportunity to tinker with them and make them better. Consider it an open source template.

I tried posting my Staff Car templates here for you fellows to work on, but unfortunately they would not work. They are too big for Warseer attachments, and Imageshack wasn't doing the job for me. If you are interested in them, PM me an E-mail address.

In other news, I have the stuff for a second Scylla model. Hopefully, I will be able to finish it this weekend. Of course, I can't promise anything.

Also, I've been spending a bit of time participating in the Warseer Campaign (PLUG, PLUG, PLUG) so take a look at my sig to find out more. That's why I won't have as much time to work on the Staff Car and Scylla.

Easy E
16-03-2007, 11:58
Greetings,

I finally found the ZIP program hidden on my work computer. As a result, I am posting the templates for the Armored Car I posted above. Feel free to play around with them and improve them.

Sorry about the delay.

Codsticker
16-03-2007, 17:22
Is this the longest running Plog here on Warseer? Well done Easy E and thanks for the templates; I may try using the outlines to make one out of sheet styrene.

Easy E
24-03-2007, 10:01
Thanks, if you make an armored car I only ask that you post it in the treadhead thread.

This blog was started before Warseer even had a section for project blogs. I feel like such a trendsetter. :p

Anyway, here's a second Scylla that I knocked together.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6798/dsc04307qz4.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04307qz4.jpg)

I now have two of the little blighters to snipe opposing transports, tank side armor, and just be a general nuisance.

Maybe I will post the templates for these up later as well.

Easy E
31-03-2007, 16:43
As threatened, here are the templates for the Scylla. The main body is not as clean of a template as the Staff Car or the Scylla treads. Again, please feel free to play around and modify these. If you build one, please post it in the Treadhead thread.

Vberg
05-04-2007, 02:51
Holy cow im impressed. I must say, upon reading your first post i had a feeling i was not going to like what i saw. Im glad im wrong. I think your tanks are as good as you can reasonably expect cardboard stand ins to be. Im also rather partial to your paint scheme you have employed, be good to see it done on some "real" models. Id love to see the reaction you'd get if you tried to use your army in a Games Workshop store, it would be rather funny.

Anyway, respect to you sir.

prometheus
05-04-2007, 05:54
any chances that i can get ahold of those various russ templates? I personally cringe everytime i buy a games workshop product, but don't like Ebay very much because it takes business away from the local gaming store. This seems like a very good way to start an army, and if people can make daemons out of putty and guitar wire, why can't you scratch-build tanks. A person could even use styrene if they had to, its the same material as the models almost. Very good work i wish i was that innovative.

Easy E
06-04-2007, 15:10
As to styrene, a common form of scratchbuilding has you build the core of the model out of carved styrene. Then, plates are layered on using card/plasticard. It is a very cheap and effective way to build nice realistic models. Take a look at my Stompa Tribe Gargant (in my sig) to get a feel for the process or here:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49307&highlight=work+in+progress

Good luck

Easy E
07-04-2007, 07:46
Double Post!!!

Here's some templates for my armored crew compartment for my Bassie and Griffon. As always, feel free to tweak them, improve them, and show us the results.

Easy E
16-04-2007, 16:15
Hey guys,

I thought I was pretty much done with this thread, but then Old Guard made a cool Priest Assault Gun/Basilisk conversion that got me thinking about open topped, direct firing Bassilisks. I've secretly always wanted to field some as assault guns (even though they would probably just get toasted, those Earthshaker cannons pointed straight at you would probably be intimidating) on the tabletop. They would not be part of the St. Paulus 1st, since they would be open topped, and that would go against the Fluff for the Timberwolves coming from an Iceworld.

Consequently, I started working on a design that would fit nicely into the chassis of my Griffin or CCV. Stay tuned.

Plus, can I get your feedback about starting a template thread? I have a few all ready, and I am thinking of diversifying into other armies/units then just the IG Armored Company list. Do you think other people would have templates to post?

Easy E
20-04-2007, 11:14
Here are some quick, copy paper mock-ups that I did of the direct firing Basilisk. Overall, I think it looks like an open-topped Basilisk instead of the Assault Gun I wanted it to look like.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2231/dsc04847nt1.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04847nt1.jpg)

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3108/dsc04851xv7.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04851xv7.jpg)

As, I mentioned in my last post I wanted it to fit snuggly into a Griffon chassis, which it did. However, I think this is also limiting me from making a more original looking Assault Gun carriage.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/341/dsc04853aq5.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04853aq5.jpg)

Your thoughts on this would be appreciated. Since, this was a test mock-up, some problems came to my attention. For example, the view slits on the outside of the vehicle not having equivalents on the inside, view slits looking at the side of a Earthshaker cannon, and some other detail issues. Do you think it needs a back wall in the gun crew area?

jasevx
20-04-2007, 11:31
If its open topped doesn't need a back wall, if its enclosed then yes, the whole lot needs armoured up

Bretagne
21-04-2007, 19:35
Sorry, dude-I'm not feeling you. Painting and modelling are my favorite aspects of this hobby and paper models just kill that joy for me. Maybe I'm an elitist or something, but I take pride in the fact that my armies are worth hundreds of dollars each. Power to you though-it must take a long time to make those. Good luck man.

i agree. these are pretty lame. you should buy tank models for dirt cheap from a hobby shop

Easy E
26-04-2007, 14:26
In my neck of the woods, there are no tank models for dirt cheap. They cost about as much as the GW kit since they are all imports (or the shop is just insanely expensive). Especially in the 1/48 scale I would want. Thanks though.

Now, I am still working on a design for the open-topped direct firing Basilisk. This is Mark II using ordinary copy paper for the mock ups. The final products will use cardstock:

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2888/dsc04916kz6.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04916kz6.jpg)

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6581/dsc04919fn1.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04919fn1.jpg)

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4072/dsc04917ct8.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04917ct8.jpg)

As you can see, I still am trying to create a piece that slides into the back of my Griffon chassis, so I can make multi-functional vehicle kits.

I have 1 last design to try before I decide on my final version. So, what do you think of this option as opposed to my last try?

Easy E
28-04-2007, 11:32
Just for fun I put together some Truck templates. The models shown below are simply copy paper mock-ups and not the finished products.

It seemed appropriate for an AC to have trucks along to carry fuel, supplies, and repair crew. So, I designed two different versions and I was hoping to get some idea of which one to use, or what elements I should combine to make the finished product.

Both of these are flatbeds currently. However, once I settle on the final design I will be able to make enclosed cargo versions and tanker container variants.

Anyway, onto the trucks.

Truck 1:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9486/dsc04911uj9.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04911uj9.jpg)

This one has 4 larger wheels. It also has a set of double doors in the cab to simulate a crew cab style. It is based on a Unimog look.

Truck 2:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/941/dsc04910zk8.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04910zk8.jpg)

This truck has 6 smaller road wheels. It only has a single door, but incorporates an exhaust pipe. It is based more of a semi-tractor truck.

This is the approximate size of a truck compare to a Griffon chassis:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6624/dsc04920np0.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04920np0.jpg)

What do you think?

madd0ct0r
28-04-2007, 14:23
I like them, but how are you going to intergrate them into the force? Or is it just for the sake of completeness and the chance to try some new designs?
incidentally, I'm not sure about the 4wheeler, the wheels look a bit too exposed for a battlegroup.

Easy E
28-04-2007, 14:35
It's just for a sense of completeness. I probably won't use them in game, but if I do they will be objective markers or scenario specific. In a pinch, I could use them as chimeras with one turret weapon.

all thought the idea of building one of these crossed my mind:

http://www.battlefront.co.nz/CatalogueView.asp?CatalogID=1492

or these

http://www.battlefront.co.nz/CatalogueView.asp?CatalogID=1873

But I probably won't.

bugbait_nz
29-04-2007, 06:25
Give them some battle damage and they could be nice as COD terrain.

Fulcrum
29-04-2007, 19:43
I really love all your tanks; I've always thought this was a great idea. Like you, I really don't have money to spend on GW (I have more important things like Plymouth Barracudas to buy!) so any chance to save money is always great (like I said, more for the 'Cuda). I salute you and your ingenuity and creativity - you are truly a god among the tightwads!

Easy E
30-04-2007, 13:11
@Bugbait-NZ- I agree. On the back of the Chaos Codex their is an Iron Warriors assault, and one of the pieces of terrain is a ground car. I always loved that piece of terrain. It gave the city they were attacking some character.

@ Fulcrum- Stop, you'll make me blush.

Here's the parts for my Assault Gun conversion. It has some additional pieces so you can use it as an Assault Gun or an Open Topped Bassie, however, you will still need the Griffon chassis. Let me know via PM if you have questions about acquiring the necessary chassis.

I really owe a debt of thanks to a guy called Bile on the Internet, his work forms a great basis to work from and build on. Sadly, his site is no longer active, but he did some pioneering work in the field of paper 40K modelling. I salute him.

irfpio
05-05-2007, 19:18
Hello Easy..

The Scylla, and the Staff Car are absolutely amazing... As soon as i am finished with my "card" Leviathan, i will be playing around with those two designs - the Scylla would be perfect for a Gun tractor, for my Scratch built heavy artillery, and the staff car, well - its a staff car/command vehicle idea i am tinkering with.....:D

I hope you don't mind, me stealing the designs....?????

Keep the templates coming - the trucks, could also be eccelent as gun tractors - and scenery - and Chimeras........and maybe something completely different, looking forward to see the templates....

Keep up the great work

Cheers
Irfpio

Easy E
12-05-2007, 18:44
Here is the templates for the trucks. I opted for the six wheeler to match the staff car a bit better. As always, feel free to modify and build at your leisure, and post it in the treadhead thread.

Next on the agenda for templates is:
Modified Staff Car
Towed Gun
Truck add-ons (Trailers, Box, Tanker Back)

Next to design/build (minus templates) is:
Demolisher Turret
Open Topped Bassie Assault Gun
Nurgle Armored Company

irfpio
13-05-2007, 05:44
Hey Easy

Trucks are looking really good....:D

I have a question - how about making some templates for an Arvus Lighter????

Cheers
Irfpio

bugbait_nz
13-05-2007, 06:25
Thanks for the templates

Bugbait out.

kelvingreen
21-05-2007, 18:33
I would suggest that those players who think that paper tanks are cheating, or disrespecting the hobby, or whatever, should see if they can track down a copy of White Dwarf #132.

Which contains detailed instructions and templates for scratch-building a card/plasticard Baneblade. ;)

tabletopcommander
27-06-2007, 00:57
Hi Easy E:

I've looked through the threads and found files for several paper/card model templates for different vehicles yet found none for your Leman Russ. Is there a link, site, or file from which I can access those templates from???

Thanks for the help.

Bahir
24-07-2007, 02:59
Man these are fantastic! I've been a big fan of paper models since I ran across Bile's site years ago. Could someone PM me, I'd love to get a hold of the templates.

Easy E
29-07-2007, 12:57
Thanks for the support everyone.

It's been a while, but I have a modified staff car template as a gift. This one has a different hood style. Honestly, I don't know if it will work, because I haven't put together a mock-up for it. Let me know if you try.

For future projects, I have two Leman Russ tanks for my Nurgle Armored Company painted up, but not printed yet. I have also put the track sections together for my Assault Gun Bassie. I didn't bother with any pics because they are just chimera track pieces that we have seen before.

Hopefully, I will have more to add soon.

Bahir
04-08-2007, 23:04
What "weight" card stock did you use? The heaviest I can find is 110, but what you uses looks a bit thicker or are my eyes getting old?

Orcdom
09-08-2007, 00:58
hey Easy, been about a year since i posted on here, been doing other things than playing my minatures for the last year, which i'm going to start playing again, but good to see your still building your army and adding more variety, congrats and good luck.

Steve

Easy E
10-08-2007, 11:04
Glad your back Orcdom. I've missed your awesome terrain and input.

Bahir- As for weight, I'm not sure. I just got it from OfficeMax in a generic package. I've also used the stuff marketed as Greeting Cardstock.

Hopefully, I will have some new pictures soon.

Easy E
17-08-2007, 10:39
Hey folks,

I've finished my first paper model where I attempted to use colors other than Gray Scale. It is a direct firing Bassilisk for my LaTD/Nurgle IG army. (For more info on this see Easy E learns to Sculpt in my sig)

Anyway, on with the Pics:

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9914/dsc06617ry0.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06617ry0.jpg)

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9894/dsc06619xt6.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06619xt6.jpg)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5356/dsc06620kl1.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06620kl1.jpg)

Let me know what you think.

I've also started work on a field gun/anti-tank gun template and I think I will be able to whip up a quick Salamander conversion template from the Bassie Template. We'll see what I can do.

Orcdom
17-08-2007, 18:08
not bad but you ought to take those plans to an art program and use its airbrush to shade them a little, or dirty some things up maybe, but otherwise cool.

Steve

Easy E
18-08-2007, 12:55
Photoshop is on my list of things to learn. Unfortunately, by the time I learn how to use it, we'll be on to virtual painting in the ether. I would love to see what someone else could do with photoshopping and assembling some of these templates.

As promised, here is the Salamander Template. Again, it is based off the Griffon Chassis. If you need a Griffon Chassis PM me.

Remoah
20-08-2007, 15:20
Cool, nice work doing it all on the cheap.

I personally don't like the look, but with enough spare bitz (guns and so forth), and plasticard, you have something going here. I may end up using these and some plasticard some day.
A tank army for half the price of a regular Russ? WHO CAN RESIST!

Easy E
28-08-2007, 04:39
After reading some of the rumors about Apocalypse games I realized that flyers would become an issue for the Saint Paulus 1st. This made me take a closer look at the Forgeworld website, and see what my options were for taking them out.

I could either get some sort of interceptor, or an AA tank. I chose the second option as it fit my theme better. This is a departure from my "No Vehicles not found in the WD AC List" rules, but I think I will need something to take on enemy fliers.

Therefore, here are the paper mock-ups for a Hydra and a Manticore. As such, these were just test pieces made from copy paper to see if my templates would fit together properly. No detailing has taken place at this point.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4453/dsc06754su9.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06754su9.jpg)

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/511/dsc06755aq9.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06755aq9.jpg)

You'll notice that I put the Hydra weapons on one side, and the Manitcore's on the other. Again, this is just a test to see if my templates would work properly and allow me to make tweaks.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5586/dsc06756yj2.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06756yj2.jpg)

Have I mentioned that I love the Griffon Chassis lately? So let me know what you think. I am especially interested in feedback on the Manticore as it is a different design than Forgeworlds.

I will add these to the 5th Companies' organizational structure. The 5th company is composed of reserve and specialty units anyway.

Edit: I forgot to mention that I will post the templates for these up as soon as I get the final versions together.

Easy E
28-08-2007, 04:52
I also got around to making a mock-up for a Demolisher. Again, these were just test templates to make sure everything went together half way right.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7537/dsc06757vl6.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06757vl6.jpg)

For now, I will probably just make a pair of turrets only. That way I can swap out with other tank chassis as needed. In the future, they will become permanent units in the 4th Company of the Regiment as it is primarily a seige force.

Easy E
31-08-2007, 15:06
I don't have pics for my completed Manticore at the moment. However, it is done.

Instead, I just thought I would post the templates for it. Again, you need the Griffon Chassis to make them work properly. Also, it uses a box launcher instead of the missiles. I made this decision based on a review of modern AA missile systems, and ease of modeling. If you wanted, you could easily find a couple pairs of Phoenix Air to Air missiles and use those instead.

I've done some work on the towed gun, but after reviewing the Forgeworld models and some real life artillery pieces, I am going to have to scrap it and start again. Mine was far to small, and looked more like an anti-tank gun. Perhaps I should look at the Epic Blitzen AA gun and see if I can modify the templates I have put together so far as a Blitzen.

Next step, I may make a few more Griffon chassis so I can field a group shot of all my tanks. Or, I may go on to something else. We will see where my whims take me. I am open to suggestions, but not flyers or titans.

Easy E
02-09-2007, 11:16
As promised, here are the finished Manticore pics.

http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/1104/dsc06859qy8.th.jpg (http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06859qy8.jpg)

There's Lt. Barry for scale.

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3585/dsc06858np4.th.jpg (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06858np4.jpg)

I had no idea what the back of a Manticore/Hydra looked like, so I improvised.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1760/dsc06862wu2.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06862wu2.jpg)

As you can see, it all breaks down from that basic Griffon Chassis again. That has to be one of the most amazing chassis around. No wonder why they stopped making the Griffon. It's way to versatile for scratchbuilds.

C&C welcome as always.

Easy E
03-09-2007, 12:32
I've been on a small kick for this thread lately. I used the Staff Car 2 templates as a base to knock together an armored car. I figure it would work great as a sentinel stand-in.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3126/dsc06852hk8.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06852hk8.jpg)

Good news to anyone who downloaded the Staff Car 2 templates, they appear to work!

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5774/dsc06854hk1.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06854hk1.jpg)

The turret is a scaled down chimera turret.

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3175/dsc06855kf8.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06855kf8.jpg)

Obviously, I didn't put the wheels on this mock-up. It was only a test. I will have the templates for this up soon. Until then, let me know what you think.

Orcdom
03-09-2007, 21:31
hope to see the hydra flak tank soon, i always liked the turrett for it. you might even think of the emplacement bases for them, they have long enough range as is. they are also a good light vehicle and light infantry vehicle as well.

Steve

Easy E
07-09-2007, 19:51
I don't have the rules for the Manitocre or the Hydra so I'm not exactly sure how I am goign to be using them in game.

For the Hydra I think I am just going to count it as a Exterminator.

For the Manticore I have a couple options. The first is to count it as an indirect fire, armored crew compartment Bassie. The second is more interesting. I think I will take it as a single Heavy Bolter armed Chimera with 4 HK missile luanchers.

What do you guys think?

Edit: The Hydra is assembled, but I still need to get some pics.

Easy E
14-09-2007, 12:59
Hydra:

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7526/dsc06985lg4.th.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06985lg4.jpg)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6536/dsc06986sh2.th.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06986sh2.jpg)

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3914/dsc06987qi5.th.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06987qi5.jpg)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2930/dsc06988mk8.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06988mk8.jpg)

Dakka, dakka, dakka!

Just for reference, it took me two hours to put together the Auto-cannons on this thing.

I heard the rules for this bad boy are in Apoc. Good.

Easy E
15-09-2007, 14:23
Here is an Armored Car that will represent a sentinel with Armored Crew Compartment.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2859/dsc06989se8.th.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06989se8.jpg)

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/2250/dsc06990py8.th.jpg (http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06990py8.jpg)

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/7408/dsc06991dx1.th.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06991dx1.jpg)

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4898/dsc06992ul6.th.jpg (http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06992ul6.jpg)

Technically, the Scylla is the main Sentinel/scout vehicle in my Regiment. However, I considered that the reserve company may have less up to date vehicles in it. To represent this, I will be using these Armored Cars as Sentinels and Ragnaroks as Leman Russ tanks. I'm also contemplating knocking something up for the Armored Fist Squads other than the standard chimeras. I think I'll take a look at the Seigfried and Land Crawler models in Epic. I always thought Land Crawlers would be a good low tech vehicle for 40K. We will see. In all actuality, I should just start cobbling together the bog standard Russ hulls for the other three companies in the regiment. That's just boring.

I've abandoned the Field Gun for now.

schoolcormorant
15-09-2007, 14:25
looking good Easy-E :)

SC

Orcdom
15-09-2007, 14:36
I dont know if your not into the sentinal or not but i may have or might be able to get a paper sentinal plan if your interested.

edit: i just looked and i have one in word document foremat let me know if your interested and i can attach it to a post

Steve

Easy E
16-09-2007, 16:02
As promised here are the templates for the Armored Car.

Edit: Thanks for the offer Orcdom, but I have the tamplate for it. I'm just not into the sentinel for this project.

Easy E
19-10-2007, 20:10
Hey, this log isn't dead yet! For proof I have some WIP pictures of two of my Guardian armored cars.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9946/dsc07221vr9.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc07221vr9.jpg)

These things are turning out to be a bear to put together. They take about 6 hours each to assemble. What a pain. Good thing these are the last of them for the Regiment.

Also, here's a mock up of something else I have been working on:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8008/dsc07127ev6.th.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc07127ev6.jpg)

A cookie if you know what it's suppose to be.

Easy E
22-10-2007, 09:56
I actually fought a couple of battles with this army. I must say, it was rather fun taking away the precious saves of Necrons and Space Marines. Now they know how I feel with most of my armies. <Insert insane cackling here>.

I didn't get to move as much as I wanted to, mostly because my opponents were in my face right away. However, I'm not sure I see the utility in having LR battle tanks with a Las-cannon, perhaps someone can enlighten me.

Finally, I have put together 10 Cadian Infantry for my first Armored Fist squad. No pics at the moment, as I want to do some GS work on them before I show them. Right now they are bog standard. I think we all know what that looks like.

Easy E
22-10-2007, 16:55
Here is an update on the status of the Saint Paulus 1st Armored regiment.

Currently it stands at:
2 Vanquishers
4 Leman Russ
2 Conquerors
2 Exterminators
2 Griffons
1 Basilisk
1 Destroyer
2 Chimera
3 Sentinels
1 Chimera Combat Command Vehicle (CCV)
1 Hellhound
2 Manticore
1 Hydra

That is 1 line company and almost 1 Reserve Company complete. Only 1 Vanquisher, 8 Leman Russ (3 will be Ragnaroks), 1 Destroyer, 3 Conquerors, 6 Exterminators, 5 Sentinels, 3 Demolishers, 4 Chimera, 40 Guardsmen, and 10 Stromtroopers left to build(and paint) and I will have 5 full companies.

madd0ct0r
23-10-2007, 04:02
god i hope that's an apococalpyse list. would not like to face that in a normal game.:D

Easy E
02-11-2007, 12:43
Wow, it took a while but I give you the 5th Reserve Company, 3rd Squadron, Section Charlie-Recon. Three MkII Guardian Armored Cars with Multi-lasers.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/23/dsc07340wb3.th.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc07340wb3.jpg)

I am currently working on a Ragnarok (Both sides are completed. Pics soon), a Leman Russ Tri-Bolter pattern hull, and an Inquisitorial Chimera. It is a race to see which one I finish next.

As for the list, I actual never intend to field the entire Regiment at once, but something about having all those vehicles designs to swap around appeals to me.