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Griffin
19-05-2008, 07:37
Here's a interesting one - I got my new Carrycase at long last, and after packing in my Army I noticed that I have 30 Slots for infantry left. What army using Infantry or bike bases can I build that will have no more than 30 units ?

I was thinking some form of all Bike army, or one of the Chaos cults on foot. Has anybody got any wacky suggestions ? The army doesn't need to be competitive - merely Small and elite. Any suggestions ? I already have a 2000 Point chaos army, so I can easily integrate a chaos list into it.

Any ideas ?

dvdhwk
19-05-2008, 07:39
Grey Knights
Cult army with lots of termies
Possibly suit heavy Tau
Deathwing

AbyssRaven
19-05-2008, 07:52
Deathwing
Lysander wing

Ronin_eX
19-05-2008, 07:59
Deathwing heavy Dark Angels definitely gets close. In my smaller (model wise) 2000 point force I field 15 terminators, 10 marines, 4 bikes, two characters, two dreads and a couple of landspeeders (total of 35 models, so close). Pure Deathwing or mixed Deathwing/Ravenwing could get a low model count like that as well. Just about anything terminator heavy will be low model count so Chosen Terminator/Lysanderwing would be a good bet as well.

The_Outsider
19-05-2008, 08:22
13th company - my 1500 list is 52 men strong and thats going for numbers.

Tiller5
19-05-2008, 08:24
Pure Thousand Son army, IE all models have Mark of Tzeentch. That should get you a nice and low model count!

Reflex
19-05-2008, 08:31
clown army eldar

but go tzeentch.. min troop max termies

Imperial Dragon
19-05-2008, 08:36
ravenwing/deathwing and a Tson army

Voleron
19-05-2008, 08:38
Pure Grey Knights. My 1500pt list has 21 infantry models, and the only non-infantry are Dreadnoughts. Even including them, it's 24.

Bumble the Great
19-05-2008, 08:39
Wraithguard Eldar force withs some wraithlords for good measure

BrianC
19-05-2008, 08:47
Pure Grey Knights. My 1500pt list has 21 infantry models, and the only non-infantry are Dreadnoughts. Even including them, it's 24.They'd get my vote as well, add in an assassin, inquisitor with retinue and you'd have a reasonable force to play with at your 30 model limit. Cheap if you pick them up second hand, around 30 to 50 for the lot?

Grey Seer Skretch
19-05-2008, 09:40
Get playing Necromunda and Blodbowl, and you will find tose 30 slots perfectly fit a decent sized gang with a couple of bounty-hunters or similar, and a nice rounded Blood Bowl Team (Halflings are fun if you want a laugh...)

THE CHIEF
19-05-2008, 10:13
Well apart from the Deathwing, Grey Knights, Thousand Sons already mentioned you could go with 'Nids. Go elite with min troops (six ripper bases) and then max out on Tyranid Warriors. Three as an HQ choice and then three big broods of winged nasties with Deathspitters and Rending Claws plus most biomorphs available. Fun fun fun

Tommygun
19-05-2008, 10:23
Nurgle Army:

3 x 8 Tactical squads
1 x 5 Havocs squad
1 commander

Pika_power
19-05-2008, 11:12
a 1250 list approx.

4x 7 plague marines w/2xplasma w/powerfist champ

1x 3 Terminators w/IoN, w/3xPlasma

1xlord w/MoN, w/Daemon weapon w/Combi plasma w/personal icon

See? should be fun, and will fill the gaps, provided termies take 2.

Griffin
19-05-2008, 11:37
Thanks Everyone. Lots of good suggestions so far.

I have a Nid Army (balanced), Pure Iyanden Force (lots of wraith units), Black legion force as well. I'm trying to avoid more 3+ save armies at the moment so I think I might go for either:

Greyknights (models are beautiful)
Chaos Death wing (get more termies and fill out my current chaos force)
Chaos Raven wing (buy lots of bikes and fill out my chaos force)

Anybody have any inspired ideas for combat patrol invloving 30 models ?

Gen.Steiner
19-05-2008, 11:44
I'm trying to avoid more 3+ save armies at the moment so I think I might go for [snip]
Anybody have any inspired ideas for combat patrol invloving 30 models ?

You've just listed three 3+ save armies. :p

30 man combat patrol? Sounds like a job for the Imperial Guard! How about 30 Stormtroopers? 400 points should get you three heftily upgraded squads of Stormtroopers, of even six smaller squads of five. 4+ save, lots of plasma/melta, maybe even some flamers and grenade launchers to mix things up... whaddya say?

Or, of course, you could start playing Mordheim, Necromunda, or Blood Bowl. ;)

x-esiv-4c
19-05-2008, 11:51
I'd shoot for a heavily converted Tzeentch termie army.

Stu
19-05-2008, 12:23
Anything with point heavy minis (terminators, nidzilla, tau max out suits) or specialist games (you can fit there an warband and a gang)

Griffin
19-05-2008, 12:27
Hmmmmm Guard combat patrol sounds uber tasty.

Gen.Steiner
19-05-2008, 12:46
Hmmmmm Guard combat patrol sounds uber tasty.

Yes! Yeeesss! Do it! Bwahahaha!

*ahem*

400 points gets you:

Vet Sgt with hellpistol and power sword.
4 Stormtroopers with: 2 Plasma guns; hellguns.
= 81
Vet Sgt with hellpistol and power sword.
4 Stormtroopers with: 2 Plasma guns; hellguns.
= 81
Vet Sgt with bolt pistol and power sword.
4 Stormtroopers with: 2 Meltaguns; hellguns.
= 82
Vet Sgt with storm bolter and close combat weapon.
4 Stormtroopers with: 2 Grenade launchers; hellguns.
= 77
Vet Sgt with bolt pistol and power sword.
4 Stormtroopers with: 2 Flamers; hellguns.
NB: All can Infiltrate.
= 79

Total: 400 points on the nose! AND it's only 25 models leaving you five spaces for something funky like five more Terminators for your Chaos. ;)

Griffin
19-05-2008, 12:59
Bwahahahaha - yes !

Stormtroopers with grav shutes !

Bork
19-05-2008, 13:08
Bloodbowl gets my vote. You can even fit in two teams and start luring people away from the mainstream games.

Gen.Steiner
19-05-2008, 13:23
Bwahahahaha - yes !

Stormtroopers with grav shutes !

The Guard welcomes you. Now you'll never leave... :evilgrin:

==Me==
19-05-2008, 13:26
Daemons mayhaps?

You can make a fairly low model count army if you focus on big stuff. Bloodcrushers, Fiends, Seekers, Heralds. Toss in 2 units of plaguebearers with icons to take punishment and ensure your army will not have any deep strike problems. An interesting army and fun to paint/convert.

Or maybe Deffwing, 2 Warbosses in Mega Armor, Mega Armored Nobz, and Battlewagons as far as the eye can see.

How about a Wazdakka Evil Suns army? Taking Wazdakka lets you have Warbikes as Troops, so max out on them and fast attack units like Deff Koptaz to cover ranged work. Not as elite as Deffwing, but plenty fast and plenty choppy.

And the best part, no 3+ save in the bunch (except for a handful of daemons).

Metaphorazine
19-05-2008, 14:44
Or maybe Deffwing, 2 Warbosses in Mega Armor, Mega Armored Nobz, and Battlewagons as far as the eye can see.

Curse you to the nine hells for coming up with it just before I did! :D Deffwing with 2 mobs 5 strong counting as troops, 3 normal mobs of 6, a mega warboss and led by Ghazzie is 30 models right on the nail, and scatter around a few shoota/scorchas and you've got 1495 points. 2+ saves as far as the eye can see. Course, it's not a cheap army to purchase, but that's another problem... :D

Only problem is, how big an infantry model can your 30 spots hold? The Deffwing comes on 40mm bases. (Unless you're talking the other Deffwing, which is all bikes. What, are we supposed to call one of them the Ravunwing? Like zog...)

But look at all the benefits to it! It's green! It's krumpy! It's dead easy to paint! And it's orky! Course, it may not be overly competitive. Anyone played it?

Grey Seer Skretch
19-05-2008, 14:50
Actually, a 2 warboss ork nobz-biker army is only (I believe) 22 models strong, and thats 1500 points... 2 kitted Warbosses on Warbikes, each leading a 'troops because of the warboss' uber-unit of Nobz Warbikers inc mad docs et all, then a few extra normal bikers to finish up.

AventineCrusader
19-05-2008, 14:51
The best small army I've seen lately had under 30 models. And it was an Ork army!

-2 Warbosses on Bikes w/ Power Klaws+Gubbinz

-2 10 man Nob biker units with Painboyz, all with power klaws as Troops

-Dethcoptaz to fill out the points

edit: dang it, ninja'd

Arkzein
19-05-2008, 14:52
A couple of specialist games gets my vote, it would leave you with a lot more options of what to play than just another 40k army. ;)

Noise marines would do it easily enough as well, a champion and blastmaster can put a 6 man unit over 250 points.

Metaphorazine
19-05-2008, 14:52
Hmm. Maybe the OP should throw out 30 models, and do Dubblewing. :D

SimBoy
19-05-2008, 16:40
Thanks Everyone. Lots of good suggestions so far.

Anybody have any inspired ideas for combat patrol invloving 30 models ?

Orks anybody? For a combat patrol you only need a troop choice, this means alot of space to fill elite and heavy units. And Kans are less than 33 armour, fits good!!

But, IMO, you should not build a combat patrol yet, I THINK the rules will change or won't exist soon. (with the 5th ed. OR a combat patrol type of supplement)

Chop Chop

SockMonkey
19-05-2008, 16:50
GK Termi force w/ GK grandmaster, 19 terminators and 10 PAGK with some wargear hits 1700 with little effort.

Feor
19-05-2008, 23:21
Last Chancers.

If you're not looking for much convertion work, 20 snipers with Refractor Fields, + Kage & Schaffer, + command squad with toys = 1000 points.

If you are looking for convertion work do the same as above but swap out the snipers for 20 last chancers with Storm Bolters, Carapace Armour, and Power Weapons. (and yes, they all infiltrate :))

Outside of that, Nob Bikers get awful steep awful quick, and they're almost impossible to kill when fully kitted out.

Wraithguard (think they got mentioned but are worth point out again, especially if your local direct services team is still doing the Spirit Host) you can get 23 Wraithguard, 3 warlocks, and a Farseer into a 1000 points.