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kendaop
18-06-2008, 18:16
I'm a 40k player and I've been eyeing the $75 starter box on GW's website. I want to know how good of a game it is. Do people tend to play it for a long time or get burned out with it quickly? I'm just a little leery of "spin-offs" sometimes.

That being said, what are the basics to the teams? ie. Are humans the "average, middle-of-the-road" team like in every other fantasy-esque game?

Thanks for the help, guys.

Bloodknight
18-06-2008, 18:25
I think that a lot of people will tell you that BB is GW's best game, and I think that they are not far off. It is a really good game, very tactical with a huge replayability. The teams differ greatly in play style (I play humans and Chaos Dwarfs). And yes, humans are the jacks of all trades.

EmperorNorton
18-06-2008, 19:16
Well, I'm one of the people who think that BB is GW's best game.
However, it's only really worth it if you play in a league as only then the game unfolds its full potential whereas one-off games loose their appeal relatively quickly.

GraemePaul
18-06-2008, 19:34
In a word:

YES

Blood Bowl is Games Workshop's best games. It is inexpensive (by GW standards) well balanced and leagues are fun.

starlight
18-06-2008, 19:37
The community surrounding Blood Bowl makes it GW's best game by far.:D Imagine the fun that Orc/k players have, now imagine that all your opponents are just as loony. :D


Buy it, play it, love it. :D

kendaop
18-06-2008, 19:48
Okay........lots of positive feedback.....I guess I'm going to buy it now.

Tennboy
18-06-2008, 20:31
Well I guess I'm gonna throw my hat in the Ring.

BB is GW best game hands down, and as starlight said, has the best community of players.

Here is why BB is so great. You can play it two ways, you can play it as a beer and pretzels game where you kick back with your buddies and have a good time, or if it is two really good coaches you'll have some matches that are just as intense and strategic as a chess match. And as far as unplayability, I started playing the game when I was 13 and after 14 years of playing I still enjoy each game win or loss.

Darkson
18-06-2008, 20:49
Well I guess I'm gonna throw my hat in the Ring.

BB is GW best game hands down, and as starlight said, has the best community of players.

Here is why BB is so great. You can play it two ways, you can play it as a beer and pretzels game where you kick back with your buddies and have a good time, or if it is two really good coaches you'll have some matches that are just as intense and strategic as a chess match. And as far as unplayability, I started playing the game when I was 13 and after 14 years of playing I still enjoy each game win or loss.

QFT. After Tennboy's post, there's not much I can add.

jazzdude78
19-06-2008, 02:49
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Yes, but longevity relies upon opponents and preferably a league system.

Welf VIII.
19-06-2008, 09:59
Yes!

It's simply the best game ever produced.

technical teams (passing, running away): Humans, all Elves, Skaven, Amazones

brawling teams (slower but harder): Dwarves, Orcs, Chaos, Ogres, all Undead

fun teams (not winning very often): Goblins, Halflings, Snotlings, Vampires


It's really great, just look at the fans:

http://www.bloodbowl.org/images/BB_illus_comp_6.jpg
http://www.bloodbowl.org/images/BB_illus_comp_10.jpg

rev
19-06-2008, 10:41
spin off?! SPIN OFF!?!?!

BB is the cornerstone, the rock - its the only GW game with any real playability over time!

Do it!

DO IT!!!

daemonkin
19-06-2008, 10:52
OP: GW Damn It! Yes!

Krootman
20-06-2008, 02:43
Dont buy the starter set, dl the rulebook, buy a box to convert into the team you want and then get a friend to buy the game :D

kendaop
20-06-2008, 06:20
Dont buy the starter set, dl the rulebook, buy a box to convert into the team you want and then get a friend to buy the game :D

When I said I was going to "buy it", that's what I really meant. :D

AlmightyNocturnus
20-06-2008, 07:02
The correct answer is: Yes...and No.
Yes, you should play BB because it is the best GW game (currently in production...What can I say, I miss Man O War) and its fun to play over and over again. I also recommend you orgamize a league. Unlike 40K or FB, you can paint up an entire team in no time.
No, the box set is not necessarily the best way to go. You only need a pitch, some templates and tackle dice, so buy a used set on ebay. Then download the Living Rulebook for free. Then play.
There is quite a discrepency in the power levels of various teams. Be careful. Humans, Orcs, Lizardmen, Skaven, and Dark Elves are well-rounded.

Almighty Nocturnus

Krootman
20-06-2008, 18:13
The correct answer is: Yes...and No.
Yes, you should play BB because it is the best GW game (currently in production...What can I say, I miss Man O War) and its fun to play over and over again. I also recommend you orgamize a league. Unlike 40K or FB, you can paint up an entire team in no time.
No, the box set is not necessarily the best way to go. You only need a pitch, some templates and tackle dice, so buy a use box on ebay. Then download the Living Rulebook for free. Then play.
There is quite a discrepency in the power levels of various teams. Be careful. Humans, Orcs, Lizardmen, Skaven, and Dark Elves are well-rounded.

Almighty Nocturnus

Yea a league is the way to go, thats how I got into it. My gamimg grp runs a league every year for 3-4 months and they get about 9-16 teams which is pretty sweet and lured me into converting a necromancer team which became quite nasty as I got the hang of the rules. Warewolfs with block dodge and mightyblow are nice :D

LordSnotball
20-06-2008, 19:22
never heard of a necromancer team, necromantic yes, but necromancer no...

BB rules. You will normally find that there are 2 kinds of players. those who fall in love with it, an those who are Warhammer players who play it for fluff

its fastpaced, and definitely worth it, if u can get a league going of course

Krootman
22-06-2008, 00:33
never heard of a necromancer team, necromantic yes, but necromancer no...

BB rules. You will normally find that there are 2 kinds of players. those who fall in love with it, an those who are Warhammer players who play it for fluff

its fastpaced, and definitely worth it, if u can get a league going of course

yea thats what I ment :)

EVIL INC
01-07-2008, 15:37
I'm a 40k player and I've been eyeing the $75 starter box on GW's website. I want to know how good of a game it is. Do people tend to play it for a long time or get burned out with it quickly? I'm just a little leery of "spin-offs" sometimes.

That being said, what are the basics to the teams? ie. Are humans the "average, middle-of-the-road" team like in every other fantasy-esque game?

Thanks for the help, guys.
The game is much fun and definately "worth it". The starter box has 2 good starts to 2 teams. Humans are decent all rounders and orcs are good crunchers. Either way, you would need to get a few extra models. Ideally, if you like one and you can find someone else who likes the other, both buy a box and swap. You will both also have all the dice you need plus templates and fields.
The rules in the box are out of date though. Go to the specialist site and download the new ones for free.
If you want other teams or know others who want to join in, point out that you can also easily convert most teams from fantasy regiments on the cheap.

neXus6
01-07-2008, 22:07
To be honest I'd just stick with the Handbook rules personally. The living rulebooks are just a mess these days in my opinion, they've been updated to often and I'd say things are a bit of a mess. The handbook on the other hand, clean simple and all in a nicely bound book rather than printing off 1001pages. :p

Bloodbowl is great fun though, it is always soul destroying but funny to see your best player mess up a game winning play or your worst player some how pull out all the luck in the old world and score a last gasp equaliser. :D

Cirrus the Blue
02-07-2008, 19:37
To be honest I'd just stick with the Handbook rules personally. The living rulebooks are just a mess these days in my opinion, they've been updated to often and I'd say things are a bit of a mess. The handbook on the other hand, clean simple and all in a nicely bound book rather than printing off 1001pages. :p

Bloodbowl is great fun though, it is always soul destroying but funny to see your best player mess up a game winning play or your worst player some how pull out all the luck in the old world and score a last gasp equaliser. :D

I'll have to disagree with the LR being a mess as opposed to the updates significantly tightening up massive loopholes that have been exploited over and over again by goober players throughout the editions. They've tightened plenty of it up over the years and besides one or two things (Wrestle, for example), it's the best version they've put out yet! :D

But yes, the game is epic win on all aspects and it's small wonder it's lasted as long as it has with such a wealth of hardcore fans!

It's best to have a proper league though due to the juicy tournaments being held at some pretty crazy locations (Dungeonbowl rules!!!) and also it keeps variety in your opponents which I've found is very important for the whole experience.

If you're just starting out, Orcs or Humans (perhaps even Pro Elves but they're pricier and don't get an Ogre on the roster) is the best choice for a team because of their well roundedness and flavor. I prefer Humans though because they play very solidly and have that beefy bit of muscle on the front lines for the Ogre aspect, not to mention the hilarity that can ensue if he ever gets his mits on the ball. Furthermore, they overall have more of an opportunity to turn agile as well which I've found is a nasty combo with strength.

Have a blast with the game!!!

- Cirrus

Krootman
03-07-2008, 03:52
The game is much fun and definately "worth it". The starter box has 2 good starts to 2 teams. Humans are decent all rounders and orcs are good crunchers. Either way, you would need to get a few extra models. Ideally, if you like one and you can find someone else who likes the other, both buy a box and swap. You will both also have all the dice you need plus templates and fields.
The rules in the box are out of date though. Go to the specialist site and download the new ones for free.
If you want other teams or know others who want to join in, point out that you can also easily convert most teams from fantasy regiments on the cheap.

The new human team is also really sweet :D

neXus6
05-07-2008, 21:40
I'll have to disagree with the LR being a mess as opposed to the updates significantly tightening up massive loopholes that have been exploited over and over again by goober players throughout the editions. They've tightened plenty of it up over the years and besides one or two things (Wrestle, for example), it's the best version they've put out yet! :D

Personally I still much preffer the Handbook, mind you I've never really had problems with loophole abusing players because I never play/have leagues with that sort of player. :)

Personally I just think the LRB comittees tend to change too much on a whim or seemingly at random/without enough thought. Every time a new LRB comes out I compare it to the Handbook and every time, for me, the handbook wins out.

-fen-
05-07-2008, 23:20
I quite agree with Cirrus, the two latest LRBs (4 and especially 5) are far superior to anything that came out before. LRB5 makes the original books look like unbalanced junk, with LRB5 BB is a beautiful game that's a joy to play no matter what your prefered race or playstyle is.

As for good starting teams. Orcs are amazing and very forgiving to a new coach, Undead are a great mid range team who are very good early on, also any of the following teams are an easy team to get to grips with when you're just starting :- Skaven, Wood Elves, High Elves, Humans, Amazons and Norse. They all have solid rosters that start out strong and are easy to get to grips with.

neXus6
06-07-2008, 01:22
Personally I fail to see how adding dozens of extra skills and player types consitutes balancing, I see that as making the game messy, particularly when very few of those changed actually seem to match up team to team. Consistency doesn't seem to be in the vocabulary of the rules comittee. :p

Ah well, some people like different systems, games still good. :D

jazzdude78
06-07-2008, 04:00
As for good starting teams. Orcs are amazing and very forgiving to a new coach, Undead are a great mid range team who are very good early on, also any of the following teams are an easy team to get to grips with when you're just starting :- Skaven, Wood Elves, High Elves, Humans, Amazons and Norse. They all have solid rosters that start out strong and are easy to get to grips with.

I disagree about skaven being easy for a beginner, sure its easy to run circles around guys but if you start to take a beating its hard for a newbie to continue play.

-fen-
06-07-2008, 08:57
Only if the people who introduced the new player to BB aren't good or polite enough to give the new guy a quick primer on how to use skaven (max out on Gutter Runners, don't get dragged into a blocking war, foul dangerous targets, explain how to foul correctly etc.)

So if new players struggle with Skaven it's the fault of whoever introduced them to the game.

Darkson
10-07-2008, 00:03
Personally I fail to see how adding dozens of extra skills and player types consitutes balancing,

It doesn't - on it's own. But you forgot to mention the changes to team strength measurement (Team Value instead of Team rating), rebalancing of both rosters and skills, and the introduction of journeymen and inducements.

Can't say it's my favourite version of the game (LRB4 for the win!:D), but it is soooooooooooooooooooo much more balanced than straight 3rd ed.

Madfool2
12-07-2008, 20:07
Blood bowl is VERY worthwhile, I just recently started an orc team and I've enjoyed every game, even so I've not won yet :D

Tennboy
14-07-2008, 13:18
^^ has weak newb sauce.:D jk, just keep at it, just stick to your game plan and use sound judgement and the wins will start rolling in.

Dont get in a rush,slow the game down and study the board. If the other coach gets upset, then he is probably a ****** and you should play him again. Hell a true BB coach should be pointing stuff out and teaching you strategy, cause they realize it is just a game and games are suppose to be fun.

Like it has been said, most new coaches have dozens of opportunities to score, they just don't see them. Move every player that doesn't require a die roll first, Reduce your die rolls (even elves drop ones) and maximize your opponents.

marv335
14-07-2008, 13:46
I love it.
Fantastic fun at a bargain price.
you can easily afford to buy a few teams to keep things varied I myself have Dwarf, Dark Elf, Human, and Halfling teams.

Tennboy
14-07-2008, 20:05
Lets see I have:

3 regular pitches
1 old foam pitch
2 Amazon teams
1 Choas team
1 Choas Dwarf team
1 2nd ed Dark Elf Team
1 3rd ed Dark Elf team
2 dwarf teams
1 elf teams
1 golbin Team
1 high elf team (would have 2 but throw one team away, cause I thought I'd never play again) :lol
2 Plastic Human Teams
1 Khemri team
1 Lizardman team
1 Necro team
1 Norse teams
1 Plastic Orc Teams
2 Metal Orc Teams
1 3rd ed skaven
1 2nd ed skaven team
2 undead teams
2 vampire teams
1 wood elf team

all teams have their big guys and any worth while Star player that can be hired by them.

Only teams I don't have are Flings, Ogres, and Nurgle

I'd say I have a small addiction. I don't have a regular table top league anymore.

gazthrak
16-07-2008, 20:12
IMO, it is the great for one off games, but it really shines when played over a campaign (or league). Of course players can get beefy, but with inducements, it balances out nicely.

Cirrus the Blue
16-07-2008, 22:52
Lets see I have:

3 regular pitches
1 old foam pitch
2 Amazon teams
1 Choas team
1 Choas Dwarf team
1 2nd ed Dark Elf Team
1 3rd ed Dark Elf team
2 dwarf teams
1 elf teams
1 golbin Team
1 high elf team (would have 2 but throw one team away, cause I thought I'd never play again) :lol
2 Plastic Human Teams
1 Khemri team
1 Lizardman team
1 Necro team
1 Norse teams
1 Plastic Orc Teams
2 Metal Orc Teams
1 3rd ed skaven
1 2nd ed skaven team
2 undead teams
2 vampire teams
1 wood elf team

all teams have their big guys and any worth while Star player that can be hired by them.

Only teams I don't have are Flings, Ogres, and Nurgle

I'd say I have a small addiction. I don't have a regular table top league anymore.

After taking a peek at the list you've got going on, I'm most surprised you don't have the newest 2005 teams. ;) Humans, Pro Elves, etc. :P

- Cirrus

Tennboy
17-07-2008, 13:28
After taking a peek at the list you've got going on, I'm most surprised you don't have the newest 2005 teams. ;) Humans, Pro Elves, etc. :P

- Cirrus

the elf team I have painted like the Washington Redskins are the new Pro Elf models.

I really wish I could come across enough of the old 2nd ed. metal elf and wood elf models to put a 12 man tourney team together.

I will more than likely buy the "spikey" humans cause I like how the hasselfree britzer looks with that team. But then again I really like the Jamaican human thrower from Goblinforge, who doesn't go with the team at all.

AlmightyNocturnus
18-07-2008, 05:56
That`s so weird, I also totally went with the Human Blitzer from Hasslefree for my Human team (which I sold to someone recently). It`s a great mini - nice pose. I painted them like the Denver Broncos.

Almighty Nocturnus

Darkson
18-07-2008, 23:22
Do you mean the Deathball from Heresy?
http://www.heresyminiatures.com/db007.htm

I don't think the Hasslefree ones (though very nice - I own a couple of them) fit in with the GW humans.
http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/range.php?range_id=50

Tennboy
21-07-2008, 12:04
Yep Darkson thats the guy. Sorry Fellas.

One_Second_of_Insanity
22-07-2008, 11:33
Well worth getting into, the most enjoyable game I have played in years. I haven't even touched 40k this year and am not missing it at all.

We have a really great scene over here with lots of enthusiastic people and dedicated commissioners. Our league has 32 coaches and is the biggest in Australia (not bad for the most isolated capital city in the world)

Overall a great game and well worth any effort put in

Marlow
02-08-2008, 20:42
Blood Bowl is definatly the best GW game ever. If I could find enough opponents I would play it at our games club every week! :o)

The Boxed set has a plastic Orc and Human team, but not quite enough figures to play a full team of either. Of the two I would say Orcs are the better choice.

tassiewargamer
03-08-2008, 00:22
Yes I got a Norse team recently and have only played a couple of games with my freind and I love it..

I would also suggest buying the starter set and choosing one of the two. If you wanted to get more players I would get some normal orcs or humans and convert them seeing it would be cheeper than buying another team..

JWBS
13-08-2008, 14:24
BB is GW's best ever game imo.

Eversor Assasin
13-08-2008, 19:17
i shall be playing my first game 2 moro as a 1off i have chosen human i have 5 linesman, 3 throwers, 3 catchers/runners and 3 blitzers

CasperTheGhost
13-08-2008, 19:32
There is some brilliant female teams that you can get. While you can't order from the website there are some compaines that sell them over here (in England) and i'm sure there will be some that sell them over the pond.

I'll put the names up when I find them

Check out the Nun team. Their brilliant IMO (http://www.shadowforge.com.au/)

And Blood Bowl is a really fun game to have a laugh for an hour or two with some pizza and drinks.

Casper

Marlow
15-08-2008, 13:30
There is some brilliant female teams that you can get. While you can't order from the website there are some compaines that sell them over here (in England) and i'm sure there will be some that sell them over the pond.
You can order from the Website! I got my Elves from there and I use them as Wood or Pro Elves in games they are great! :)

Tritex http://www.tritex-games.co.uk/ is the only place I know that sells them in the UK, and I did find a German store when searching online. Bound to be others around.

CasperTheGhost
15-08-2008, 13:50
Opps that what I meant. You can order but only if you live in austrilia. Damn should always read what I post :angel:

Casper

Marlow
16-08-2008, 11:01
Opps that what I meant. You can order but only if you live in austrilia. Damn should always read what I post :angel:

Casper

Your Mistake is forgiven, if you buy the models... :D