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Smrgol
30-06-2008, 20:27
OK, are GW offering a recycling option for the old books, ideally offering a trade in option?

I.e. you bring your old book in and get x off of the price of the new one?

TheBigBadWolf
30-06-2008, 20:30
:eyebrows:

no, why would they, what use is the old book to them.

They arnt like video games that you can trade in and get someone else to play.

DiddyKong
30-06-2008, 20:34
ive allways thought about this.

i think it would be a good idea if they did.

or an option to take in old minatures.... like a trade point.

either with other players, or the company.

Sergeant Uriel Ventris
30-06-2008, 20:38
Besides, why the heck would you trade in your old book? There are still the old stories, artwork, fluffy bits, and pictures in there. I would miss mine.

Templar Ben
30-06-2008, 20:49
OK, are GW offering a recycling option for the old books, ideally offering a trade in option?

I.e. you bring your old book in and get x off of the price of the new one?

That would really hurt the profit of the new edition. I am really sad about Cities of Death, doesn't fit for 5th and I don't think strategems made it into the core rules.

On your avatar Diddy Kong, I thought his left foot was his wang. :angel:

neXus6
30-06-2008, 20:51
Well from a stand point of "recycling then making new books" it woudl be nice, but I highly doubt they would ever do it, considering the types of products GW makes it is probably cheaper for them to bin old things and make new ones than melt down/pulp and remake.

I can't see them doing anything that would cut into their profits, even if it saved a couple of trees.

I don't think they melt down old models and re-use them they just chuck them.

TheBigBadWolf
30-06-2008, 21:07
Well from a stand point of "recycling then making new books" it woudl be nice, but I highly doubt they would ever do it, considering the types of products GW makes it is probably cheaper for them to bin old things and make new ones than melt down/pulp and remake.

I can't see them doing anything that would cut into their profits, even if it saved a couple of trees.

I don't think they melt down old models and re-use them they just chuck them.

Its doubtfull they could be mulched, the spines wouldnt let it work, like telephone books.

I really dont see why anyone would want to recycle an old rule book, or why GW would want to, or have to, there is nothing to gain for them.

Do EA offer discount on their new product, no, why should they, sell it online, or give it away to get the couple of quid you were hoping for discount

Smrgol
30-06-2008, 21:16
Why wouldnt GW want to recycle?

Well apart from the fact that in the UK companies are rewarded for recycling products?

It would encourage more people to get into the stores and once in the stores people are more likely to spend more money. Why do you think that Tesco etc dont offer online vouchers through their clubcard?

Granted the spines are probably too thick but the paper can be recycled.

It also wouldnt cut that far into profits when you considder the public image it would help to give them and the increased instore sales as mentioned above.

Also comparing recycling paper against EA games is not the same thing...

TheBigBadWolf
30-06-2008, 21:26
Why wouldnt GW want to recycle?

Well apart from the fact that in the UK companies are rewarded for recycling products?

It would encourage more people to get into the stores and once in the stores people are more likely to spend more money. Why do you think that Tesco etc dont offer online vouchers through their clubcard?

Granted the spines are probably too thick but the paper can be recycled.

It also wouldnt cut that far into profits when you considder the public image it would help to give them and the increased instore sales as mentioned above.

Also comparing recycling paper against EA games is not the same thing...

:rolleyes:

Its not random bits of paper its a book, a big thick book, books are very rarely recycled, as they can still be used, we are not talking about a newspaper or a magazine.

Seriously how many books do you recycle, what a waste, its more environmentaly friendly to donate them somewhere.

As for the increase in sales, doubt it, why would i trapse all the way to GW to recycle a book or old codex, when if i really wanted to i could stick it in a recycling box at my door, which most people have now.

The original point was that you wanted GW to give you money for a product you didnt want but was still perfectly useable, and then is no use to them.

You didnt say anything about helping the environment. Which is kinda not happening as its more environmentally friendly to keep it or donate it, than waste energy recycling it.

DiddyKong
30-06-2008, 21:27
On your avatar Diddy Kong, I thought his left foot was his wang. :angel:[/QUOTE]

heh heh, it does like it now ive actually thought of it :)

ive been into my local before, and all the old story books, that they havnt sold, theyve just ripped up, and binned.

seems a hell of a waste, either sell them to customers for a discount, or give to a local charity shop?

do something at least, not just binning them??

and, when was the last time they had a sale? i used to remember, years ago, i could go into gw, and they would have a sale of old stuff, when necromunda went into specialist games, they had massive discounts.

i think they should reward older players, and the veterans who have been with them for years, not just think of profits, and getting new players....

Charax
30-06-2008, 21:30
Does any other wargame or RPG company let you trade in old rulebooks? I haven't heard of any that do, nor do I see why they would bother when the lost profit and the cost of setting up the infrastructure to handle it would far, far outweigh any potential gains.

theHandofGork
30-06-2008, 23:09
How many people would trade in an old rule book for a new edition anyway? I like how GW Canada is (supposedly) doing it- giving a discount for showing your RT book. This rewards veteran players and lets you keep your book.

Sergeant Uriel Ventris
01-07-2008, 01:08
By the by, it is a huge waste of energy to recycle paper and in case you were asleep in science class for this little nugget, paper is biodegradable. And about 30% or more of the things you put into the "recycling" bin end up as landfill anyway, so...

...yeah. Just keep it and read it when you feel nostalgic.

x-esiv-4c
01-07-2008, 16:34
Finally! I can turn in my copy of Rogue trader!

Griefbringer
01-07-2008, 18:51
By the by, it is a huge waste of energy to recycle paper

Sure, it consumes energy. So does producing paper out of wood.

However, in the great scale of things the GW rulebooks are a marginal amount of your total paper consumption (at least if you read newspapers). Better stick them to the bookshelf for bouts of future nostalgy, and concentrate on recycling the bulk products.

crandall87
01-07-2008, 20:39
Finally! I can turn in my copy of Rogue trader!

Why not sell it on eBay? I bought the old 2nd edition of there once as I am too young to remember it first time round and heard a lot of good things about it (this was during 3rd ed)

rodmillard
01-07-2008, 20:43
From a marketting point of view it *might* make sense for GW to offer vouchers if you bring your old rulebook/codex in when you buy the new one, but only because a deal like "20% discount of a space marine battle force when you buy the space marine codex if you bring in your old edition copy" is going to encourage some people to buy it in store rather than going to a cheaper online retailer. In terms of the core rules, it will also discourage players from back-tracking if they don't like the current edition:

"5th ed sucks - we should all go back to playing 4th"
"But man, we can't coz we all traded in our old copies for free stuff"

But from GW's point of view, what would they do with the old books? given the current rate at which oil prices are going up their best bet would probably be to use them for heating...

Foolish Mortal
01-07-2008, 20:53
I'm sure there is a post on Dakka that one of the US stores is offering $5 off the new rules if you bring in your copy of Rogue Trader.

Could be BS, and not quite recycling, but cool idea none the less.

RobC
01-07-2008, 21:29
Have you seen how much old rulebooks can sell for online?

Hang on to your old stuff. Stick it in the attic if you must; in a few years' time you'll get your money back when the next edition comes out and people want the previous edition to compare rules/background.

the anti santa
01-07-2008, 21:33
it would be cool if they sold leftover rule books and the out of date army books/codices at a big discount when new ones are due.

Many years ago in the GW sales i bought some 2nd edition army books for 2 or 3 just to read all the fluff. I still have them and they are great inspiration for conversions and new projects.

Sergeant Uriel Ventris
01-07-2008, 22:37
Sure, it consumes energy. So does producing paper out of wood.

True, however companies that cut down trees to make paper plant more trees, and I like trees so I encourage that sort of thing. The paper industry is the greatest thing to have happened to forests in the US. Having said that, there's not much else that has happened to forests, really.


However, in the great scale of things the GW rulebooks are a marginal amount of your total paper consumption (at least if you read newspapers). Better stick them to the bookshelf for bouts of future nostalgy, and concentrate on recycling the bulk products.

I agree, heartily.

Komnenos
01-07-2008, 22:48
Is glossy paper recyclable?

Templar Ben
01-07-2008, 23:03
Sure, it consumes energy. So does producing paper out of wood.


Many of the paper mills here use green energy as well. Not necessarily by design but wood chips that are too small for the pulper as well as the bark and rotten wood are all burned in the boiler. It is cheaper in most places then buying the huge amounts of energy required.

Bookwrak
01-07-2008, 23:05
I was going to say, I'm fairly sure that glossy paper is much harder to process than newsprint and the like, and ultimately you'd have to consider how much GW would have to spend on dealing with the exchanged books, vs how much more money in increased sales the exchange program would bring in. Ultimately, it would be a situation where they'd end up losing money.

Templar Ben
01-07-2008, 23:19
I was going to say, I'm fairly sure that glossy paper is much harder to process than newsprint and the like, and ultimately you'd have to consider how much GW would have to spend on dealing with the exchanged books, vs how much more money in increased sales the exchange program would bring in. Ultimately, it would be a situation where they'd end up losing money.

Kaolinite (the clay that makes coated paper glossy) is hard to pull out. You end up having much less paper fiber per pound then with newsprint and it causes the recycling mill to generate much more sludge then normal. That combined with the fact that recycled paper is almost exclusively done by buying energy from coal fired power plants and the fuel costs of moving the heavy products with so little recovery makes one wonder why there is such an effort to recycle paper. It is made out of trees after all which is a renewable resource.