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da big mek
04-07-2008, 05:51
this seemed like the most appropriate place to put this thread so here it goes
recently it seems of just plain lost interest in the hobby, i still am a big fan of fluff but i just cant seem to get myself to start of finish even the smallest project

i was wondering if anyone else has experienced this strange and unsettling feeling ? should i let life win or give 40k one more shot ?

Drogmir
04-07-2008, 05:53
Same thing happened to me but in a different way.

I can't seem to find the motivation to play games anymore, everytime I play I lose because people play apocalypse and I only have a real force big enough to effectively play 1000-2000 point games. I just paint these days really.

What i find you should do when you get bored is switch systems. Fantasy does wonders to rekindle your interests, or even go Warmachine if you're feeling really jumpy. Of course life is still life and you shouldn't ignore anything pressing in life over a hobby.

unclejimbo827
04-07-2008, 05:55
oh yeah. I've been playing for seven years and I've more or less stopped three or four times. it happens to everyone, but they all come back :p

Culven
04-07-2008, 06:06
One of the things I like most about this hobby is the fact that there are different aspects to it. If I become bored with playing, I will spend my free time painting. If I need a break from painting, I will make a really nice conversion. When I have several newly converted and painted models, I want to try them out in a game. It really is just a viscious circle. :)

Starchild
04-07-2008, 06:13
My problem is that the nearest game store is 50 miles away. That means I don't get to play many games. Instead I focus on painting, for the most part.

I suggest that you sign up for a tournament. There's nothing like a good tournament to motivate you to get an army painted. Too, tournaments are great fun if you're a good sport. :cool:

big squig
04-07-2008, 06:20
I can't seem to find the motivation to play games anymore, everytime I play I lose because people play apocalypse and I only have a real force big enough to effectively play 1000-2000 point games. I just paint these days really.

Oh man, if every time i played it was apocalypse I would quit too. I really don't like it much.

But I would guess the topic creator is actually in a very similar predicament. Ask yourself if you play the same way every time. Does every game consist of just setting up troops, playing a standard mission (or much worse, no mission) and against the same few people over and over? Then try something new. Play a rearguard or a blitz mission. Try new people or new army lists. Make a new game table or something.

If things feel stale, it must be for a reason.

TheMightyBrain
04-07-2008, 06:24
I suggest that you sign up for a tournament. There's nothing like a good tournament to motivate you to get an army painted. Too, tournaments are great fun if you're a good sport. :cool:

Tournaments are a fantastic way of revitalising your love for the hobby.

You'll see incredible armies while you're there, play many a hard fought game and probably down a few pints while you're at it.

Once you get back home, all you'll want to do it play more games and paint up your miniatures.

I highly recommend it.

Drogmir
04-07-2008, 06:29
Oh man, if every time i played it was apocalypse I would quit too. I really don't like it much.

But I would guess the topic creator is actually in a very similar predicament. Ask yourself if you play the same way every time. Does every game consist of just setting up troops, playing a standard mission (or much worse, no mission) and against the same few people over and over? Then try something new. Play a rearguard or a blitz mission. Try new people or new army lists. Make a new game table or something.

If things feel stale, it must be for a reason.

What ends up happening is that I'm a guy who's really into infantry. Just waves of them. Everyone else at my store brings in Super Heavies and Titans. Then we play this strange no mission just kill kind of games with about 4-6 people. I end up being useless in the game (what are Leman Russ tanks really going to accomplish against Titans and Super Heavies?)

Also Since I come in at increments of perhaps once every month. I hardly know anyone who works there anymore as the red shirts keep on moving on. Really quite depressing.

Only thing that really keeps me going is that whenever I field my Death Korps of Krieg somebody's eyes always lights up and ask, "What are those?". Followed by , "How much are they?".

Then a huge frown comes upon their face as I tell them. :evilgrin:

Koryphaus
04-07-2008, 06:32
I quit 40k in 2006 because we never used enough terrain, (it was like a fantasy board) and I'd get massacred by Eldar firepower.

So I gave fantasy a real go for a while, i also played a little bit of Necromunda, lots of Mordheim.

Then, I was convinced by my mates to give 40k another go, when the cities of death building sprues came out (one of my mates bought the Imperial Sector box, so we suddenly had sh*tloads of scenery to play with). So I gave it a go, and guess what - I've never looked back since. I love my 40k again, I just needed a break of about 3 months and some better scenery to re-kindle my enjoyment of it.

Varath- Lord Impaler
04-07-2008, 06:42
Only thing that really keeps me going is that whenever I field my Death Korps of Krieg somebody's eyes always lights up and ask, "What are those?". Followed by , "How much are they?".

Then a huge frown comes upon their face as I tell them.

HA! I get that too! tis great fun too see.

Ive been keeping a Contingency plan for when i run out of passion for 40k (im not sure if i ever will, so i will just keep it in case). A mixed campaign involving, Battlefleet Gothic, Epic, 40k and Missions of my own design. Ive been writing it for awhile and i think it'd be so much fun if i got some good players.

JimmyP0567
04-07-2008, 06:48
I've been playing non-stop for five years. I've just never lost interest because my local gaming group/store is great, has lots of terrain, and has a wide variety of armies. Plus I love me some Imperial Guard tanks.

Starchild
04-07-2008, 06:52
What ends up happening is that I'm a guy who's really into infantry. Just waves of them.

There's a key change in 5th that will see big changes in Apocalypse armies. The objectives can only be taken by Troops, just like in regular games. Granted, a 3rd of regular games will be kill-point slaughter fests, but at least it won't be all the time. ;)

Cities of Death makes 40k more challenging. I also enjoy getting straight into the action, instead of dancing around a 4' x 8' game board. 4' x 4' boards speed things up immensely. Then there's all the tactical decisions with stratagems, etc.

I also suggest trying Cities of Death with Rules of Engagment (http://uk.games-workshop.com/warhammer40000/rules%2Dof%2Dengagement/1/), with key building stratagem markers counting as the objectives. This brings up all sorts of interesting situations -- 'Should I take this building for the Firesweep, or move further in and take my opponent's Fuel Depot?' -- etc., etc.

Drogmir
04-07-2008, 06:56
There's a key change in 5th that will see big changes in Apocalypse armies. The objectives can only be taken by Troops, just like in regular games. Granted, a 3rd of regular games will be kill-point slaughter fests, but at least it won't be all the time. ;)

Cities of Death makes 40k more challenging. I also enjoy getting straight into the action, instead of dancing around a 4' x 8' game board. 4' x 4' boards speed things up immensely. Then there's all the tactical decisions with stratagems, etc.

I also suggest trying Cities of Death with Rules of Engagment (http://uk.games-workshop.com/warhammer40000/rules%2Dof%2Dengagement/1/), with key building stratagem markers counting as the objectives. This brings up all sorts of interesting situations -- 'Should I take this building for the Firesweep, or move further in and take my opponent's Fuel Depot?' -- etc., etc.

Oh I like Cities of Death, but like I said they problem is nobody at my store wants to play it.

They're all into Apocalypse with huge open fields and Super Heavies and other such nonsense.

Inquisitor Engel
04-07-2008, 06:59
To be honest, background kept me in 40k all through High School. I played a bit more in College but my real love was the background. I even managed to win some awards in 40k Fluff Nut for three years in a row. :D (Silver, Gold, Silver IIRC Kage was absent one of those years, Lavfluris had dropped off the radar and Alekenisis had also disappeared, so I won by default I suppose. I'll stop old-school name dropping now :p)

Now that I've graduated college I started finishing my Tau army, polishing some of my Ultramarines and even experimenting with finishing my Night Lords, which is difficult since it seems Brazen Brass is no longer made...

I also found a copy of Xenology at SciFigenre.com for RETAIL. Which arrive today. Already done. Loved it.

Plastic Rat
04-07-2008, 07:02
I suggest that you sign up for a tournament. There's nothing like a good tournament to motivate you to get an army painted. Too, tournaments are great fun if you're a good sport. :cool:

Also a great way to make you want to dump all your models on e-bay and never play again. Some folks like tournaments. Others don't. I hate them.

Personally, I don't enjoy watching people bring the cheesiest lists they can dredge up with a bunch of models sprayed black with a blob of paint on top so they're 'legal'.

To the OP: If you still like the 40k universe, then there's a lot of stuff to still keep you engaged. Try some Specialist Games. Epic and Battlefleet Gothic aren't as painting intensive and the gameplay is awesome.

Aeronautica Imperialis rocks, one of the best games I've played.

Get yourself some Black Library books. If you haven't read any of the Horus Heresy books or Gaunt's Ghosts, give them a try.

Try out some computer games. Dawn of War is really awesome and brings the game to life.

Lastly, this is a hobby, not a religion. You don't have to stay faithful and immersed in it. You are allowed to do other stuff. Take a break, try out rock climbing or scuba diving, but keep your models. Chances are a month or two down the line you'll be walking out of the house wearing your scuba gear trying to figure out how you're going to work the clutch with those damned flippers on and you'll see your 40k stuff and realize you really really want to play or paint again.

Torga_DW
04-07-2008, 07:06
Happens to me every now and again. If you're really getting bored, don't play. Don't go selling off your armies, just find something else interesting to do until you feel like playing again. May take days, may take years. Its only a hobby when you enjoy it, otherwise its self-inflicted punishment.

Starchild
04-07-2008, 07:16
Oh I like Cities of Death, but like I said they problem is nobody at my store wants to play it.

They're all into Apocalypse with huge open fields and Super Heavies and other such nonsense.

Oh! My apologies... the Cities of Death comments were for the original poster. And I agree, it can be difficult to find people willing to try it out. I usually have to haul my buildings up to the store and reel in a newbie or two. :(

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Another thing that keeps me interested in 40k is having a friend who's also a dedicated hobbyist. He doesn't limit himself to 40k: he does vinyl models, plastic kits, scratch building, model railroads, and to top it all off, airbrushing. :eek:

It really helps to have a friend who shares your mindset of the hobby, so you can build up the synergy that makes creativity possible. :cool:

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To be honest, background kept me in 40k all through High School.

That's been a big factor for me as well. It really helps to have a collection of Rogue Trader-era material to get inspiration from. I still flick through Realm of Chaos and Waaagh the Orks on occasion. And the original WD 127 Eldar article is forever etched into my unconscious mind. :o

Drogmir
04-07-2008, 07:18
Oh! My apologies... the Cities of Death comments were for the original poster. And I agree, it can be difficult to find people willing to try it out. I usually have to haul my buildings up to the store and reel in a newbie or two. :(


Oh sorry for the misread :p

big squig
04-07-2008, 07:23
I quit 40k in 2006 because we never used enough terrain, (it was like a fantasy board) and I'd get massacred by Eldar firepower.

So I gave fantasy a real go for a while, i also played a little bit of Necromunda, lots of Mordheim.

Then, I was convinced by my mates to give 40k another go, when the cities of death building sprues came out (one of my mates bought the Imperial Sector box, so we suddenly had sh*tloads of scenery to play with). So I gave it a go, and guess what - I've never looked back since. I love my 40k again, I just needed a break of about 3 months and some better scenery to re-kindle my enjoyment of it.
yeah, that really makes a difference. I see a lot of people get bored with 40K or say it's shallow or has no tactics and almost always i later find out they play it like they are playing fantasy (no terrain, no objective, line up and fight). You are supposed to do the exact opposite of that and when you do it's really hard to look back.

Ronin_eX
04-07-2008, 08:40
this seemed like the most appropriate place to put this thread so here it goes
recently it seems of just plain lost interest in the hobby, i still am a big fan of fluff but i just cant seem to get myself to start of finish even the smallest project

i was wondering if anyone else has experienced this strange and unsettling feeling ? should i let life win or give 40k one more shot ?

Either take a break or try another game. Most gamers go through a point in their hobby life when they get bored with the game they were introduced with. You may have loved it when it came out but over time you notice cracks and inperfections and your boundless joy begins to wain.

When this happened to me (a couple years after 3rd edition was released) I took a break from 40k and went off to explore the rest of the hobby. On my way I found many games that got my hobby motor going. Maybe you just need a change of scenery.

If that doesn't do it just take a break for a bit and come back when the bug bites you again. If not maybe gaming wasn't the hobby for you.

Warpcrafter
04-07-2008, 08:43
I got frustrated with WFB because the only people I could get games against were really anal about everything being PERFECTLY ranked up, and I couldn't really give a s**t. If 5th edition 40K ends up being what it seems to be according to the rumors, I might be out of that too. I've been writing my own rules on and off, but that's been an ongoing project for about fifteen years. I'm sure you all know somebody like that. Just don't take it too seriously and do whatever interests you, and see what develops.:skull::skull::skull:

New Cult King
04-07-2008, 08:47
It comes in cycles for me. I was off the game until Dark Heresy came out, and playing that has resparked my interest in the BL books, which has reignited my interest in my IW and Ork armies, and has me pondering colour schemes for an Eldar craftworld ;)

StugMeister
04-07-2008, 08:48
Try Epic - it certainly reaffirmed my faith in 40K.

Foolish Mortal
04-07-2008, 09:00
I've been going through the same problems myself for a while.

I love the fluff, love the models (don't play though), but just can't seem to be bothered to actually start anything. I kinda 'play' at it - have ideas & stuff, but never seriously, then models just winds up back in the box unfinished.

I'm not sure what advise I can give you other than, try another system, or perhaps take a hobby break & give yourself time to recharge your batteries so to speak.

Slightly off topic - 100th post - Yay me!!!

Khaine's Messenger
04-07-2008, 09:21
i was wondering if anyone else has experienced this strange and unsettling feeling ? should i let life win or give 40k one more shot ?

I've felt that way for a while now. To be honest, after participating in a Warmachine League, I almost feel the same way about that game, too. 'Twas exausting emotionally to deal with some of the social dynamics of the situation. And my army is nearly three-four years old now...almost to the point that I can build the list from memory...and it's almost never won a game of note. And playing Apocalypse? It's just not my speed.

I think what you should do is not force yourself to enjoy something that's lost its shine. I imagine even "spicing it up" wouldn't change much. If it's the playing of games that frustrates you, you could try to spruce up some other area of the hobby. I know for a fact that the local shop needs more good terrain...I bet yours does, too. Or you could spend some time to build up your painting skills. Or something. If you want to stay "in the hobby," it's not all about playing the game.

Doomseer
04-07-2008, 11:12
There's nothing wrong with taking a break now and again. The time away may give you some much needed motivation and you know you can always come back.

TheDarkFlame
04-07-2008, 11:22
I reckon that you should take a break. That does help. Still, whatever you do, don't sell your models as you will most likely regret it.