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Pickle
12-07-2008, 03:54
Well, thought I'd start a general log, as I'm currently painting a Warriors of Chaos army, some random 40k minis, and building a small board. So straight to the images shall we.

Warriors of Chaos
Most of this is assembled, but not primed, so is a major WIP.

Current Progress List
Chaos Lord on Steed - Converted, Unprimed
Sorceror - Basecoated
16 Chaos Warriors - WIP
32 Marauders - 16 assembled and primed, 16 unmade.
5 Warhounds - To be built
9 Knights - To be Gs'ed

Chaos Warriors, just an example of them.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Warriors%20of%20Chaos/PICT0004.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Warriors%20of%20Chaos/PICT0005.jpg

Marauder, single one, just as a test.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Warriors%20of%20Chaos/PICT0003.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Warriors%20of%20Chaos/PICT0009.jpg

On to the next post...

Pickle
12-07-2008, 03:57
40k Misc.

Servitors - Currently a WIP, will be finished soon.

http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0001.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0002-1.jpg

White Dwarf - Just Primed.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0003-1.jpg

My new project - a Clean, Green, Cityfighting Machine, scratch that, Board!

General Outlay - Three buildings are going to be 2 stories, other is going to be one storey.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Terrain/PICT0001.jpg

XA Minatures
12-07-2008, 07:58
some cool models there, was the choas warrior base made out of milli put at all?

Pickle
12-07-2008, 08:27
Base on the Marauder was made out of Polyfilla or similar.

Magos Explorator
12-07-2008, 09:41
Being pedantic, 'padantic' is a typo. ;) I look forward to seeing progress on that board!

Pickle
16-07-2008, 07:33
Update: A big tank is coming, I've nicknamed it the "The Land Crawler"

Shape coming together
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0008.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0009.jpg

The Big Ammo
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0011.jpg

So far, I have used...

5 Ferro Rochea Boxes (Sp?)
1 Old Scanner stripped out bits will be used for detailing :)
Lift Plus Bottle :P Random I know
And a small piece of PVC piping.

Also that board it's on for scale purposes is 2 foot by 2 foot :P It's huge!
So what do you think? And do you think this should be in it's own post?

Pickle
18-07-2008, 06:25
I'll be painting the servitors tonight, hopefully finishing them off.

Anyway for now,
Been building the tracks up, so many to go :D
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0001.jpg

And been building the track casing to no pics yet.

Hespithe
18-07-2008, 16:54
Ha! This one ought to be good. I can't wait to see how you make it fit into the 40K Universe. Cheers, P.

Pickle
18-07-2008, 22:38
Anyway update only cut 30 or so out still need 70 or so for one track set.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0001-1.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0002.jpg

The Ammo round is coming along slowly. Starting to add the tip to it.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0005-1.jpg

And building the tracks now.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0006.jpg

Comments?

Hespithe
18-07-2008, 23:14
Yup... Land Crawler is a very apt name, lol. Ya got my interest, Pickle.

Pickle
18-07-2008, 23:18
Haha, good I need regualr watchers :D

Hespithe
18-07-2008, 23:34
Oh, haven't you realized yet? I'm highly irregular, but I'll watch all the same.

Pickle
21-07-2008, 04:42
Haha, true, Hesp, very true.

Anyway Updates...

Track One is coming along, one more side on it is needed to be made up, then all the track pieces need doing.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0007.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0006-1.jpg

The basic body design is done, Front end needs curving a bit morwe, not exactly how I want it.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0002-1.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0001-2.jpg

Continuing in next post...

Pickle
21-07-2008, 04:42
The Ammo is still being done, have to carve the point tonight.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0005-2.jpg

And finally the cannon has taken a twist, it is now a artillery piece.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Land%20Crawler/PICT0003.jpg

Comments please.

Pickle
23-07-2008, 07:32
No comments pah!

Did some random sculpting, just beause I could and to have a bit of time off the "Land Crawler"

This is one thing I'm not sure or happy on, the commissars fur collar, doesn't look right.

http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0012.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0014.jpg

And a random tree stump

http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0021.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0022.jpg

Thanks for reading and hope to see your comments soon!

hallowed_are_the_ori
23-07-2008, 08:18
Sorry but your tank just looks like a scanner with a beer bottle stuck on it. Better off just using a plasticard body, rather than a heavy scanner.

Marovian
23-07-2008, 11:26
I think the collar is too high on the Cimissar. Lower it down so it sit's closer to the bottom of the hat, and the idea will be sound one.

Pickle
26-07-2008, 00:44
Hallowed - For now it does, its been put on hold for a small while, while I focus on other projects.

Marovian - Fixed the collar, see it below.

Pictures of the commissars fur collar, it's been redone, how's it look now?
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0003-2.jpg

And deciding between these bases for it.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0006-1.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0007-1.jpg

Also started a full tree.

http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Terrain/PICT0004.jpg


Comments

Pickle
26-07-2008, 22:38
Update once again.

Undercoated the commissar and a warhound.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0001-1.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0002-3.jpg

Done more on the tree.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0004-1.jpg

And found one of the first minis I painted
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0011-1.jpg

Comments

Huw_Dawson
26-07-2008, 22:42
Certainly better than my first models...

The fir on the Commisar is good too. Overall, keep up the good work!

- Huw

Pickle
27-07-2008, 20:23
Thanks, thought the fur looked better now.

Marauder Update, working on the skin.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0009.jpg

Servitors Update, same as Marauder, all skin
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0007-2.jpg

Basecoated the Commissars Cloak
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0005-2.jpg

Basecoated the Warhound
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0002-4.jpg

Sorry about the pics in advance, they aren't that great.

Rikka Rakka
28-07-2008, 03:13
If you build up thin layers of paint over an even basecoat you will find yourself getting better results.

The Black primer on your models is very uneven. In places it looks gloss. What are you using?

Always thin your paints. The Commissars Coat has way too much paint on it. Your basecoat drowns the sharp details the model has.

For the Warhound take your time and apply several thin coats. That way it will not look incredibly streaky as it does now.

With everything, take your time.

Pickle
28-07-2008, 06:07
Teh primer isn't primer anyway, its because the paitn was still wet form the shots, same with warhound. The commissars coat is the thinnest caot of paint on it. The shots arejust bad because they are wet still.

Pickle
28-07-2008, 20:37
Updates with painting piccies :dance:

First up, Servitors, the bloody bits have got a highlighting.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0002-5.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0003-4.jpg

Marauder's metal armour got a drybrushing
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0005-3.jpg

Pickle
28-07-2008, 20:38
Nurgley Warhound
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0007-3.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0008.jpg

Commissar has more basecoats and some cloak work done.
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0014-1.jpg
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/picklestudios/Other/PICT0015.jpg

Comments?

hallowed_are_the_ori
29-07-2008, 03:50
Why is his face green?

You need to get a better undercoat, it's chipping and showing through your paint work. Paint needs to be thinned down a bit also

Rikka Rakka
29-07-2008, 14:53
Pickle, that coat of paint is not thin. It's thick. You can see that in later pics you have taken. Way too thick. Why have you painted his skin green as well? it doesn't make any sense and it looks pretty dreadful.

Same with the warhound. Youve just painted an uneven green coat over an already uneven red coat.

I really think you need to spend a lot more time thinking about what you want to do as you have no focus.

Pickle
29-07-2008, 20:04
I know exactly what I'm doing, and the greens gone anyway, decided after some dicussion to do it the traditional black.

The Warhound is keyword "Nurgle", it is supposed to look like that for now.

Waddle Dee
29-07-2008, 20:43
A word of advice Pickle; try and keep the paint to set areas of the model and don't let it go over onto parts its not intended to (the face and hands of the commissar for example), otherwise it'll likely require more layers to fix that part, meaning the paint will be thicker there, and the model will not look as nice as a result.

Also, if you don't mind me asking; what rough ratio of paint to water do you work with, and what sort of brushes do you use to apply said paint?

W.D

hallowed_are_the_ori
30-07-2008, 01:31
Also whats paints do you use?

Rikka Rakka
30-07-2008, 04:01
I know the keyword was Nurgle Pickle, but an uneven coat of dark green paint, over an uneven coat of red, does not the Lord of Decay make.

I too am interested to hear the ratio of water versus paint you use, as well as what brushes. You seem to have issues with getting paint to go where you want it to.

And dont ask for comments and then say you 'know exactly what you're doing' when someone offers criticism/advice. It comes over as a little bit rude me old mucker.

Pickle
30-07-2008, 04:55
I use sable brushes, and GW paints. The Warhound looks liek its uneven becasue I want it to. It is supposed to be like that for now. It depends on the job on my paint to water ratio.

Waddle Dee
30-07-2008, 08:55
Right, a couple more pointers then;

-You've gotten both the red and the green paint on the warhound on parts I doubt you intended to, the collar and the hair specifically, rather than just sloshing the paint over the model, try and be a bit more accurate, if nothing else, it means less work for you afterwards (you won't have to clean the aforementionned parts up).

-You're messing up the paint-water ratio, theres nothing wrong with this, it happens to just about all of us after all, just work to getting the paint at around the consistency of milk, you could also look into getting some foundation colours, as even thinned down, they still provide very good coverage.

-Just slow down a little and think about how certain colours affect others, don't feel you're required to update several times a day, just do a few days work on something then show us all the finished product, people will find it much easier to comment on the work then :).

Rikka Rakka
30-07-2008, 20:53
Alright then Pickle, fair enough. If that's how you want your models to look then carry on. Maybe I just have high standards, but I wouldn't want to pay through the nose for these things then make them look like you do.

If you want your models to look better then start listening to the advice your fellow posters give you, rather then snapping at people who are trying to help. Because thats all we try to do.

Also, I agree with the above poster when he says, if you're gonna update make it worth it. You've been touting that Servitor round the net for months and a bit of orange on his 'arm' does not constitute an update.

Most of all Pickle, don't slavishly ask for comments after each of your thrice daily 'updates' then arrogantly snap at people when they try to be constructive. If you (as you said) 'know exactly what you're doing', then frankly your models would look a lot better than they do right now.

schoolcormorant
01-08-2008, 20:06
You mispelled 'pedantic'.

Irony?

SC

nuclear
10-08-2008, 07:03
Why don't you wait till the paint is dry till you take your pictures? wet paint doesn't look anything like dry paint, so showing us pics of wet stuff is kinda pointless.

Also, why don't you just stick to one thing and try to finish it? Or just agree to yourself that a model is done, and stop working on it. That servitor hasn't really changed much from the pics at the begining.

I agree with Rikka, don't ask for advice, then just dismiss it when you do get it, and complain when you get none. Sounds to me like you only want to hear praise.

With some patience, focus and careful brush work, I could see your stuff being alot better.

murekhalir
10-08-2008, 07:04
Alright then Pickle, fair enough. If that's how you want your models to look then carry on. Maybe I just have high standards, but I wouldn't want to pay through the nose for these things then make them look like you do.

If you want your models to look better then start listening to the advice your fellow posters give you, rather then snapping at people who are trying to help. Because thats all we try to do.

Also, I agree with the above poster when he says, if you're gonna update make it worth it. You've been touting that Servitor round the net for months and a bit of orange on his 'arm' does not constitute an update.

Most of all Pickle, don't slavishly ask for comments after each of your thrice daily 'updates' then arrogantly snap at people when they try to be constructive. If you (as you said) 'know exactly what you're doing', then frankly your models would look a lot better than they do right now.


i kind of agree.

I honestly, didnt know wet paint made things look thick.

Why would a commisars face be green or black O_O.. oh nurgle... well.. still.. o.O his face skin tone matches his coat?


you run a painting service

LionoftheBegs
10-08-2008, 08:48
Pickle you're doing a good job. Don't listen to these high end snobs who only want to look at work if its up to thier magical standards which they magically set. Look at my plog. No one replied except 2 because I am using other miniatures except GW.

So great work and keep it up!

Waddle Dee
10-08-2008, 11:48
Pickle you're doing a good job. Don't listen to these high end snobs who only want to look at work if its up to thier magical standards which they magically set.

I resent being called a "high end snob" when all I have done is try to give advice. Please explain your reasoning behind such a comment if you're going to say it.

LionoftheBegs
10-08-2008, 16:21
I resent being called a "high end snob" when all I have done is try to give advice. Please explain your reasoning behind such a comment if you're going to say it.



And dont ask for comments and then say you 'know exactly what you're doing' when someone offers criticism/advice. It comes over as a little bit rude me old mucker.

This is what I was refering too. If he likes his painting then there is no room for this.

Waddle Dee
10-08-2008, 17:49
People can always improve. The fact Pickle has a commission site going on means he should be looking for advice on making his models look better, it improves his reputation and means he'll likely make more money, no? Also, even if you don't feel the advice is really needed, you should always reply politely and explain why you may be trying something different, when people see posts they carefully worded out to try and help someone dismissed in such a manner, they tend to feel such a log isn't worth their time. I really want to see Pickle improve, he has some nice ideas that he lets down by rushing, and I always think 1 piece of good constructive critism will always be more useful than a hundred pieces of blanket praise, if Rikka comes across a bit harsh, its because the guy clearly doesn't apreciate the way in which his advice was ignored, who would?

W.D

Pickle
10-08-2008, 20:35
I never ignored his advice, just dismissed it for now, as I am not aiming for GD quality only Tabletop. Anyway I'll have updates soon if you want them.

El-Diablo
10-08-2008, 22:43
I never ignored his advice, just dismissed it for now,

Hopefully you'll take this advice Pickle, never dismiss ANY advice given, it may end up changing the way you feel about a particular thing. The way you've been speaking after people have given advice is pretty damn rude


I know exactly what I'm doing

I'll speak from experience and say that if your saying that, you don't know what your doing. Either that or your idea of what your doing is distorted.

People have posted very helpful comments that you've shot down straight away, give those comments a bit of thought before you go near a keyboard and you might see better results with what your doing, even if it is just 'tabletop quality'.

hallowed_are_the_ori
11-08-2008, 01:42
Pickle you're doing a good job. Don't listen to these high end snobs who only want to look at work if its up to thier magical standards which they magically set. Look at my plog. No one replied except 2 because I am using other miniatures except GW.

So great work and keep it up!


There are plenty of Project logs with non GW figures that get tons of replies. You just dismiss any constructive criticism you're given as "high end snobbery". Lionofthebegs if you don't want to hear negative comments about your work, then you probably shouldn't have aproject log.

Sorry to derail this thread.