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Shinguuji
14-07-2008, 10:24
Just taking a survey. I think the average is 10.

1500 points

IJW
14-07-2008, 10:32
Already done:

http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148758

Mad Larkin UK
14-07-2008, 10:35
Played a tournement yesterday, my guard army had 15!! and the opposing dark eldar had 14. was a very tactical and great game i have to say. Came out to be 10-8 to me :-)

marv335
14-07-2008, 10:43
Already done:

http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148758

And is now locked.

Anyway
depending on how I set up, between 9 and11.
Anywhere between 4 and 6 scoring units.

the_picto
14-07-2008, 11:01
What pts value are we talking?

My current 2000pts DA list gives between 11 and 16 depending on how I do combat squads.

E-616
14-07-2008, 11:04
My 2000 pts of Nids give away 15+

Three units are Without number and each new unit gives seperate kill points :eek:

Azulthar
14-07-2008, 11:05
Is this for 1500 points?

IJW
14-07-2008, 11:22
And is now locked.
Fair enough.


As a few other posters have asked - how many points is the poll for?

The_Dragon_Rising
14-07-2008, 11:24
For 1.5K lists- 14 for eldar, 9 for eldar, 12 for orks.

Shinguuji
14-07-2008, 14:47
1500 points

gideon0330
14-07-2008, 14:54
1500pts of DeathWing...7 kill points

BrotherCaptain
14-07-2008, 15:26
1k Pure Grey Knights...6 kill points (Brother Captain w/ Psycannon, 3 x 7 man PAGK squads, 2 x GK Dreads with TLLC + ML, EA & smoke).

TheDarkDuke
14-07-2008, 15:40
1500 Points:
Black Templar: 10
Death Guard: 7
Necron: 7
Tau: 7

Brother:
Tyranids: 9-13
Eldar: 9
Thousand Sons: 8-13
Dark Eldar: 11-15
Soon to be Salamanders: 7+

TheDarkDuke
14-07-2008, 15:41
1k Pure Grey Knights...5 kill points (Brother Captain w/ Psycannon, 3 x 7 man PAGK squads, 2 x GK Dreads with TLLC + ML, EA & smoke).

I believe that would be 6 KPs and the OP is asking at 1500 points not 1000.;)

GIKvack
14-07-2008, 15:59
I have 18 points that I give away in my Guard list at 1500pts... my old style of playing where losing squads isn't going to work anymore... BOO!

AlexCage
14-07-2008, 16:11
Well, the MINIMUM I bring for my Compulsories at ANY points level is 12 KP (pretty sure only Guard are capable of such a feat). So my usual list of 1500 is going to be about 16-18 KP, depending on how I shuffle the vehicles. I think most of 2000 point lists hover around 18-20 KP.

Grazzy
14-07-2008, 16:14
7 in my marine list. There will only be 6 in my pure GK list though.

Royal Tiger
14-07-2008, 16:14
well my most recent 1500pts guard force (before selling) had 20 KP

glad I sold it now

RazielZian
14-07-2008, 18:23
My 1500 DA army gives out a whopping 13 KP (now thats a lot for such a small marine army!) granted there are 10 scoring units out there....

pityedbythedicegods
14-07-2008, 18:30
My choas army has 8 kill points.

Lord Cook
14-07-2008, 18:40
16 for me. And that's only with one infantry platoon. The whole system is so inherently biased it's disgusting.

40kdhs
14-07-2008, 18:43
5 kill points for my pure GK army at 1500.

3 0f 6
14-07-2008, 19:21
LOl whats a killpoint? this some new fangled 5th edition thing?

Rhyskalor
14-07-2008, 20:26
my 1500 points of CSM tourney list gives 7 killpoints

Bloodknight
14-07-2008, 20:54
My Guard army has got 19, my Chaos army 9, my Dark Eldar, 14.

The_Outsider
14-07-2008, 21:17
My DE give out either 13 or 14 depending on a couple squad loadouts.

To be fair I think you'd struggle to build a good DE list that didn't give away at least 10KP.

Hicks
14-07-2008, 21:37
I have 18 points that I give away in my Guard list at 1500pts... my old style of playing where losing squads isn't going to work anymore... BOO!

Amen, my own army gives so many KPs it's not funny. I really don't know what to do when the enemy reaches CC now, sacrificing troops just mean I'm loosing anyway.

Alternatively, I'm looking forward stormbolting the crap out of some poor units with my GKs and then running away to safety to deny KPs :evilgrin:.

Sidstyler
14-07-2008, 21:44
I think my 1500 Tau list gives 13 kill points.

the_crazy_russian
14-07-2008, 22:18
at 1500 pts...

chaos: 9.
space marines: 10.
eldar: 10.
tau: 12.
orks: 11.

average 10.4.

Lord Inquisitor
14-07-2008, 22:29
My 1850-point Emperor's Children army gives away 14 KP. If I were to cut that down to 1500 points, I would probably cut 2 KP out of it.

CannedLaughter
14-07-2008, 23:48
16 for my tyranids, I often try to fill up every slot in the FOC for fun.

Xenobane
14-07-2008, 23:52
19 or 20 for me :( with around 8 scoring units.

Vaktathi
15-07-2008, 00:41
My Imperial Guard army has 19 KP's, my Tau army has 16 KP's (go go gadget devilfish Gundrones), and my Chaos Army has typically 9-12, usually 9 or 10.

Kill points are lame

Hicks
15-07-2008, 00:47
LOl whats a killpoint? this some new fangled 5th edition thing?

Yes it is. The game now counts 3 scenarios, the classic "kill as much stuff as you can to win" doesn't use Victory Points now, but Kill Points. Basically, every unit in an army = 1 KP.

That means that armies with many weak troops are handicaped because they opponent can gain more kill points and they are easier to get. For the IG, this is especially bad since their squads are super fragile and have few bodies in them.

broxus
15-07-2008, 00:50
Taking just compulsary choices in the IG gives you 10 before anything else is bought.

Chem-Dog
15-07-2008, 01:04
Yeah, I stopped trying to work it out when I hit 19.....

sly_dog
15-07-2008, 01:13
My all sisters army at 1500 gives away 10.

zoodog
15-07-2008, 03:22
Zero, my enemy's gonna have to work for them

though realistically my CC scouts almost never survive the battle

I think my standard list contained about 9 possible ones

Varath- Lord Impaler
15-07-2008, 03:59
My 1500 pt army gives away 20

Good old Guard, ay?

Colonel Kevlar
15-07-2008, 04:09
I've got 22 in mine, I field an entire Infantry Company. :D The joy of being Guard, more bodies than have a right to exist.

Kevlar

Baneboss
15-07-2008, 04:16
Everyone can see its an imbalanced system. I will play using victory points as in 4th edition.

MechCommander
15-07-2008, 04:21
Taking just compulsary choices in the IG gives you 10 before anything else is bought.

I've seen both 10 and 12 in this thread. I'm going to have to lean towards 12 myself, since the Platoon Command Squads are identical to the HQ Command Squad, they are just required to take the JO instead of having a choice. And I was going to start Guard for my next army too... Well, guess I need to wait on the new codex. When is that coming out anyways? Q4 08?

Varath- Lord Impaler
15-07-2008, 04:24
Everyone can see its an imbalanced system. I will play using victory points as in 4th edition.

Everyone can blindly make up excuses without trying it first, yeah.

Hell, it might be imbalanced. But ive got 4 Ordinance Templates a turn in 1500 points :P i think i could balance it out abit.

Edit:


I've seen both 10 and 12 in this thread. I'm going to have to lean towards 12 myself, since the Platoon Command Squads are identical to the HQ Command Squad, they are just required to take the JO instead of having a choice. And I was going to start Guard for my next army too... Well, guess I need to wait on the new codex. When is that coming out anyways? Q4 08?

Huh?

HQ Command squad=2
Command squad=2
Command squad=2
4 Infantry squads=4

thats 10, where did 12 come from?

aj40k
15-07-2008, 04:34
My Chaos Marines never give away kill points, but they take lots :p.

But i guess if the opponent got really lucky :D they could take a possible 7.

Bike Lord
9 Bikers
9 Thousand Sons
9 Thousand Sons
1 Predator
1 Predator
8 Havocs

MechCommander
15-07-2008, 04:41
Everyone can blindly make up excuses without trying it first, yeah.

Hell, it might be imbalanced. But ive got 4 Ordinance Templates a turn in 1500 points :P i think i could balance it out abit.

Edit:



Huh?

HQ Command squad=2
Command squad=2
Command squad=2
4 Infantry squads=4

thats 10, where did 12 come from?

I believe 12 comes from my inability to do simple math/count things in my head?

Shadowb|ade
15-07-2008, 04:43
in my 1750 cancon list i have a astounding.. 19 points

Varath- Lord Impaler
15-07-2008, 04:44
I believe 12 comes from my inability to do simple math/count things in my head?

Ah that old Chesnut

Radish
15-07-2008, 05:32
Got 11 in my DA...damn necessary rhino transports! Could drop it to 10 easily though I guess...

Oh and to the statement about KPs inbalanced, I disagree, they're great, stops all the 1 suit per elite slot and maxing out on troops etc. Very refreshing IMO.

Shadowb|ade
15-07-2008, 08:36
18 i think

1 HQ
1 HW squad
2 platoon commands
6 squads
3 HW squads
1 rough riders
1 hell hound
3 leman russ

Bloodknight
15-07-2008, 08:57
it's 21. The platoon commands and HQ squad are worth two points. ICs and retinues are worth 1KP each.

AllisterCaine
15-07-2008, 09:01
I wouldve voted "Too Many" had there been that option. Seriously, its almost painful for most guard players to admit how many kill points their army has.