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mark_logue
05-08-2008, 15:13
I have embarked on a new project. Much to my excitement a large box of miniatures arrived at my house recently.

Here is what it contained.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian001.jpg

This is my Kraytonian army for Dark Realm Miniatures' Seeds of War game.
Dark Realm Miniatures is a small company producing high quality Sci-Fi 6mm miniatures.

The rules for Seeds of War can be downloaded from DRM's webpage here (http://www.darkrealmminiatures.com/).

I chose the Kraytonians because they are a very alien looking race, quite different from other miniatures available in the 6mm scale.

Starting From the Base Up

Good looking bases are really important to the look of a 6mm army. With the size of the base in relation to the models being much larger than in 28mm miniatures a little extra effort here can have a big impact on the overall look of the army. With this in mind I decided to focus my initial efforts on the project from the base up.

The rules for basing in Seeds of War are rather flexible.

"Infantry can be mounted on any base whose total area is between 4cm and 9cm square. The base itself could be round, square, oblong or almost any shape. Vehicles need not be based though players may certainly select to do so." - Seeds of War Rules (http://www.darkrealmminiatures.co.uk/downloads/SeedsofWarV1.0UI.pdf)

Some of the basing options I am considering are:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian002.jpg

Cereal Box Card - Cut to size this makes for really strong bases when you stick the miniatures on with a two-part putty, such as Selleys Knead It or Milliput. It cures rock solid after a minute or so and makes for a really durable base. I have used this previously on my Epic Khorne Army. Stick the miniatures on the rough side and the shiny side makes for a durable bottom surface.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/TheChaosPuzzle.jpg

GW Plastic Bases - The rectangular and square bases that GW produced for Epic both fit DRM miniatures nicely. While rectangular bases are still available separately from GW I felt they were a tad expensive for my taste. The square bases are only available second hand these days and I was never really a fan of them.

Washers - To fit within the rules round bases need to be between roughly 2.5cm and 3.4cm in diameter. The picture above shows a range of washers that would make suitable bases. I like the look of 6mm Sci-Fi armies on round bases so I am definitely leaning towards this option. I have used round bases in the past and used Selleys Knead It to attach the miniatures and shape the base.

The Verdict - I have decided to use round bases for the army. I will also base my vehicles on round bases. The Kraytonian army fields some very futuristic and alien looking hover tanks and I think round bases really suit them. I will also be using similar basing for my aircraft so that I have consistent basing accross the entire army.

The plan is to create several master bases for infantry, vehicles and flyers and then create a silicone mould and cast up enough bases for my army. While this is probably just as much effort as creating all my bases using washers and Selleys Knead It I have another 6mm army in the pipeline once I finish this project so the effort will pay off for me in the end.

I will also be following the progress of the project on my webpage. (http://www.marks6mmwargaming.com/WIP/index.html) Larger images and a few extra pictures will be available there once the painting begins.

mark_logue
08-08-2008, 00:31
Now that I have decided on round bases I made several masters out of washers, Selleys Kneed IT and Crushed granite (an excellent basing material for miniatures due to variation in particle size form dust like particles to small stones. And the interesting shape which has a lot of sharp edges and varied shapes which looks better than oversized sand particles which all look round).

I decided not to create any holes to place my infantry in on the masters. My reasoning for this was that I figured it would be easier and neater just to drill holes in them when I have cast them. Also I will then be able to use the same bases for my hover tanks and fliers.

This is the current state of my bases.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian003.jpg

I based a few infantry up seperately so I could get some painting done over the weekend so expect some painted units really soon.

loken555
08-08-2008, 01:17
lego!!!!!! i work at legoland lol kl stuff i'll be looking forward to progress

mark_logue
10-08-2008, 08:45
This is the first tank base I have painted up out of my resin tank bases.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian004.jpg

This particular one didn't actually come out so great as I didn't quite get the basing materials all the way to the edge of the base. I painted it up to see if my basing scheme would come out the way I thought.

I have made all sorts of rookie errors in my first foray into casting so I will probably redo a set of base molds when I can get some more silicon. I'll probably make some 40K ones as well and rebase some of my armies on more interesting bases.

My first unit is based using putty to stick the models and some terrain on Washers.

May I present the Ketzali.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian005.jpg

for more pictures see www.marks6mmwargaming.com/

Emberbreeze
10-08-2008, 22:05
Looks good. Was very interested by this game at Salute this year. Interested to see how your army develops.

mark_logue
12-08-2008, 11:25
The game is definitely worth checking out. Development by a core group of gamers trying to make the best game they can definitely has advantages over playing games developed by a corporation.

I finished up my Basileus and Honour Guard. This is the command unit for the army. The Kraytonian Force organisation follows a sort of tree structure. Taking a Basileus lets you take a certain number of primary broods, each of which allows you to take support formations. The availability of support formations is dependent on the choice of primary broods.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian007.jpg

mark_logue
13-08-2008, 14:36
I am starting to get a decent little battle force of these guys after less than a week.

That is one of the things I really like about 6mm gaming. You can actually have a decent sized army moving about the battlefield in a dynamic way. Its always good when you can actually speed your tanks through a decent sized city.

Even with Apocalypse its just not the same. Pretty much all you get to do is move across one city block. You can't achieve the struggle between two forces to outmaneuver each across a battlefield other in 28mm, that has pretty much been assumed to happen before the game begins and you are playing out the final close range firefight and assault.

This is my army so far.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0010.jpg

more photos can be found on my website.

mark_logue
17-08-2008, 02:56
Started on the Air Force. These are my Arkiten fighers. They are one of the models that drew me to the army. Very cool.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0011.jpg

mark_logue
19-08-2008, 12:29
I have added some Arkator fighers to my Air force.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0013.jpg

Emberbreeze
19-08-2008, 22:16
Looking very nice. Keep it up. I'm thinking of trying to get my gaming group to go in for an army or two.

mark_logue
21-08-2008, 12:35
Its definitely worth a go, having the ability to maneuver around a battlefield makes 6mm gaming a lot of fun.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0014.jpg

mirakel_jocke
21-08-2008, 13:02
Interesting models, congrats on their nice basing and sweet paintjob.

I just might have to check out this gaming system...

~MJ

mark_logue
24-08-2008, 10:01
Definitely worth a try

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0015.jpg

mark_logue
26-08-2008, 15:43
And here's the next unit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0016.jpg

mark_logue
31-08-2008, 11:53
I thought I would give everyone a size comparison to show the scale of these miniatures.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0018.jpg

I am now going back into bulk infantry painting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0020.jpg

mark_logue
01-09-2008, 13:09
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0019.jpg

mark_logue
03-09-2008, 13:33
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0021.jpg

Gorgrim
05-09-2008, 01:01
And here's the next unit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0016.jpg


These guys remind me of your sculpted roughriders.

mark_logue
07-09-2008, 13:39
I was stoked when I first saw the DRM Rakkarat Riders for that exact reason. I am planning on converting some with the DRM human jungle infantry so I can recreate my deathworld lizard rider army in Epic scale.

This is my progress so far.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0022.jpg

I'm getting there. I am finding DRM armies are really good for painting. There is quite a variety of troops choices for each army so it keeps the painting process interesting but the models fit together well so the army has an overall look of unity about it when its painted.

mark_logue
09-09-2008, 14:18
My next Tank type. The Arka!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0023.jpg

jdp
09-09-2008, 19:52
Well, I almost skipped this thread because I didn't recognize the company or game system. However this is one nice looking army, cool infantry, tanks, and aircraft. The army shot really explains what epic and all 6mm games are all about, regimental size armies which can be painted to a nice standard in weeks not years. Keep up the good work this is a great log!

mark_logue
11-09-2008, 15:12
Cheers man. I have definitely found a lot of really cool models by looking at all the different rule systems and manufactures that pop up all over the place. Most armies I use for GW game systems have a smattering of other manufactures stuff mixed in to make things look interesting and sometimes its worth trying out a whole army (especially as you point out since 6mm armies take weeks rather than years).

Looking nice and hordy now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0024.jpg

mark_logue
13-09-2008, 13:55
I have decided to batch paint the remainder of my infantry. I have 30 stands to do so it will be much more efficient that way.

First of all I start with a White Undercoat. I have recently started using White Knights Squirts Spray Paint. I have been looking around for a while for a spray that suits me as using the GW spray is too expensive and some of the cheaper cans just wreck whatever they are sprayed upon.

Next I move onto the bases. I am fairly messy when I paint bases as I use a really big brush so I don't have to spend to much time on them so I paint the bases before minis so I don't mess up the work I have already done.

The base color scheme I have used for this army is:

GW Vermin Brown wash. (warm red brown)
GW Vomit Brown Drybrush (yellowy creamy sort of brown)
GW Bleached Bone Drybrush (cream)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0025.jpg

synapse
13-09-2008, 14:20
i can certainly see how 6mm provides lots of new possibilities.

the models are really cool and ive had a look at the website and the whole range is pretty spiffy. #

nice work

mark_logue
14-09-2008, 05:19
The best thing in my opinion about 6mm games is the ability to actually maneuver tanks and heavy vehicles around. We play a lot of Apocalypse in out gaming group and even with that you may be able to take a lot of big things but they don't get to move around much in a game.

The next step in my infantry batch painting is a green wash for the skin.

Washes are an excellent way of bringing out the fantastic level of detail that you get on DRM infantry. Much better than drybrushing or attempting to blend on a 6mm miniature.

Tips for washing miniatures.

You really need to water the paint down and make sure that you don't overload your brush to get really effective results.

Push the brush tip into all the crevices so that you don't get white showing through when you are finished.

Make sure the paint has a thin even coating over the miniature. If you have pools of liquid in the recesses then no pigment will get in and you will have dark lines around the edges of where the water drops dried. If you end up with too much wash on the model use a dry brush to wick the excess paint off.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0026.jpg

Vaktathi
14-09-2008, 08:53
very cool, even though I don't play, those Arkiten fighters look awesome.

mark_logue
16-09-2008, 05:37
Cheers!

The Kraytonian super heavy fliers are huge.

The Aryx can transport a large landing structure to drop off troops into the heart of battle (in the centre of the picture).

I have pictured it next to a Tau Manta to show how big it is.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0028.jpg

For the next step on my infantry I have washed the armour with ultramarines blue, washed the weapons black. Then painted the heavy weapons a mix of blood red and black then highlighted them with a mix of blazing orange and red.

I am going to give the models a light wash of brown at the end to darken them up a bit, then finish the basing and all I will have left to paint is three tanks and the Aryx pictured above.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0027.jpg

mark_logue
16-09-2008, 17:41
A diluted wash with GWs old brown ink finishes off the paint scheme on the infantry. I then added static grass to hide the bases of the miniatures.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DSCF3929.jpg

mark_logue
19-09-2008, 13:27
DRM just released a new army Guide for the Kraytonians.

Its looking very hot with a lot of background to the army and some awesome pictures.

http://www.darkrealmminiatures.co.uk/downloads/KraytArmyGuide.pdf

mark_logue
21-09-2008, 03:56
I gave the Aryx a lick of paint.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0031.jpg

I still need to paint the base.

All I have left now is the finishing details on 3 tanks and the Aryx's Infantry Drop Container.

The Horde so far:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0030.jpg

mark_logue
25-09-2008, 00:57
Painting fast is through simply relying on techniques to get most of the army painted then adding a few details with a fine brush to make things stand out. I do most of my painting with a big crappy paint brush my kids had, its like size 5 or 6 or something. Then I go back and pick out details like the windows and engines etc with a size 1 high quality brush, for all the details I highlight up through 3 colors with a strongly contrasting color.

Basically you never really have to be neat and if you do its on an easy to reach raised detail of the miniature. That way you can paint dozens of miniatures at a time.

With nice basing an army can look really good this way and be painted in a month while still going out, socializing, playing with the kids, working, taking the dogs for walks etc.

Trying to paint every little detail with tiny brushes is something that should be left to the golden daemon painters who actually have hands that steady and are only trying to paint one miniature not a gaming force.

My last unit.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0033.jpg

finished off basing on the Aryx.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0032.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0036.jpg

A large image of the army
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/LargeArmy.jpg

And some flier comparison shots.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0034.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/AngustheUnruled/Seeds%20of%20War/DRMKraytonian0035.jpg

Warboss Antoni
25-09-2008, 02:02
That's a BFG scale Manta, right?

Anyways, nice army. I like the look of the models- an interesting sounding game, and I would like to try a 6mm - just ordered some Epic today.

mark_logue
25-09-2008, 11:01
That's a BFG scale Manta, right?

Epic. The BFG ones are tiny. They basically count as ordinance that you can fire at the opponent in BFG.

These guys match in size with Epic perfectly which is good as it gives a few potential proxies if you don't want to have the same guardsman as everyone else (DRM have several different human models) or want to proxy Necrons, Tyrannids or Slann which are really hard to get a hold of for Epic.

ninjin
21-01-2010, 12:19
Those look really good.

I love the Arka tank - what model(s) did you use?

mark_logue
03-02-2010, 12:35
All the models are from Dark Realm Miniatures.

Fredmans
07-02-2010, 21:19
Great to see an entire DRM army. Your bases are inspirational and the army looks fantastic. I love your simple patterns for army coherence. Really makes it come together.

/Fredmans

cerealkiller195
11-02-2010, 00:02
excellent stuff, not sure if i would take a full dive into 6mm though i believe the infantry in "heavy gear blitz" is.. very nice stuff!

mark_logue
24-02-2010, 11:17
6mm is definitely a great scale for Sci Fi wargaming. It allows for much more dynamic battles with units able to manouver over much larger distances rather than being restricted to small skirmish battles typical of 28mm gaming.