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Valo
09-08-2008, 20:44
Last night my Jeep was broken into,and my Red scorpions marine army stolen from me,so i figured I should post it up here to see if it turns up.

I've checked all the shops around town that have anything to with minatures,and nothing's turned up,just got through dealing with the cops,who basically told me to go screw myself cause i was wasting their time.

hopefully my insurance will cover it,although I've got a feeling they
won't.......just did up the list of whats missing,$1880.75,just in
that one army case alone,not to mention all the time I put into
them....I can't beleive it.

what's missing is:
-Army case,which had:
-my dice
-5th edition rule book
-5 codex's,tau,marines,black templars,dark angels and deamon hunters
-my templates.

-15 terminators all with FW red scorpion shoulder pads
-my commander culln model
-1 terminator chaplain
-30 tactical marines all with FW red scorpion shoulder pads
-10 scouts
-2 land raiders(one was my forgeworld one)all with FW red scorpion
brass etch and imperial eagle doors
-vindicator with imperial eagle doors.
-a FW venerable dreadnought,with 4 arms that are magnetized.
-a GW venerable dread.
-a squad of cadians,still on the sprue
-my drop pod
-limited edition gamesday marine



so any of you guys...if you would,please keep an eye out on all the forums for this army,if you see it for sale,please let me know.

here's just a few pics of whats missing

http://s92.photobucket.com/albums/l24/Valo_05/Red%20Scorpions/?action=view&current=DSC02344.jpg

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l24/Valo_05/Red%20Scorpions/DSC02434.jpg

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l24/Valo_05/Red%20Scorpions/DSC02192.jpg

not everything thats gone,but everything thats painted.

scarletsquig
09-08-2008, 20:49
I would keep a very close eye on eBay if I were you. It's almost guaranteed to end up on there.

As soon as you find the listing, police have something to work with, eBay is obliged to hand out seller's adresses to the police. It's a good job you have photos, print them off to prove ownership.

Or, depending on how useless your local police force is, they might not bother, even if you do have all the evidence they need. Toy solider theft isn't likely to be taken very seriously, even if your army is worth more than your car.

Slaaneshi Slave
09-08-2008, 20:50
Sorry to hear that.

Keep an eye out on ebay.

Valo
09-08-2008, 20:53
I would keep a very close eye on eBay if I were you. It's almost guaranteed to end up on there.


Sorry to hear that.

Keep an eye out on ebay.'

Thanks,I've been checking out ebay but somethings telling me whoever robbed it is just gonna try to ditch it locally,lots of guys really screwed up on drugs around my neighborhood,but.......there are a few shops,who if they did get hold of my army,would deffinetly go to ebay with it.

Hicks
09-08-2008, 21:34
I can really understand how you feel. Two months ago someone did the same thing to me, but they stole a case full of Magic the Gathering decks in my case (pretty much the same value as your army). I did what you did, I visited all the card shops and handed out a very detailed description of the missing content along with photos of the case. I also promised a monetary reward for anyone who would retrieve the case for me. Well I was really lucky because 3 weeks later I got a call from one of the card shops. Someone came in to sell the collection and when they confronted the guy about the fact that they knew it was stolen and that he was being filmed he droped the case and ran.

But I know how you can feel about the police. In my case, they came 3 days after I had called them to fill some paperwork. I said, they, but it was really just one police officer. Funny thing is that he was playing the good cop bad cop by himself with me to check if I wasn't inventing this to fraud the insurance. The guy was alright though once I convinced him that I wasn't lying. You should definitly call the police station and ask to talk to someone with a high rank, it's really not normal to get told by the police to screw yourself. Be aware though that they do have priorities, in my case, my stuff is still held as exhibit 3 weeks after they retrieved it. They haven't been able to investigate my case yet apparantly.

Good luck getting your stuff back.

silence
09-08-2008, 21:58
Chances are the person who stole this has little idea of the miniatures value, and may not even be aware of the specialist shops in your area. I'd advise you to also contact any pawn shops nearby, as well as any independant toy shops. You never know, you may get lucky.

I truely hope that you get your figures back, best of luck in finding them.

catbarf
09-08-2008, 22:00
Words cannot express my rage. I'll be searching specifically for your army when I make my usual Ebay rounds. Call the police. Point out the enormous amount of money and time you put into it. If you need to, tell them you were building the army for sale- that gets a bit more priority than personal interests.

MadHatter
09-08-2008, 22:02
This really sucks, I am sorry to hear that. If it should end up in the Seattle area I will let you know.

I would fill out a police report and watch ebay but also send some letters to the shop owners within a 50 mile radius. But remember to make them so they will actually read them. And send them some pictures along with the case number. This way they take it seriously and do not think you are just causing issues.

And like the others have said keep a watchful eye on any online auction site. inlist a few of your friends help with this.

Good luck on getting them back.

Corrupt
09-08-2008, 22:05
Sucks to hear that mate, its a shame because the army is worth much more than its monetary value because of the time effort and love you've invested in it. Really hope someone reports it turning up at a store for sale. Il keep an eye out on ebay for ye even though am from UK, who knows it could turn up.

Brother_Chaplian Raimo
09-08-2008, 22:23
Words cannot express my rage.

My feelings exactly. Even more so, as this is an army I've watched grow, supported, and enjoyed. I feel for you, brah. I'll do my best to watch online auctions, forums, and similar for this particular army.

Latro_
09-08-2008, 22:44
Just out of interest, if you live or parked in a dodgy area why did you leave it in your car?

Cherubael
09-08-2008, 23:01
I had my gaming case stolen a couple of years back too, lost the better part of my Chaos Dwarf army. In my case i was told it would be difficult to recover because miniatures can be repainted or changed quite easily so its difficult to prove any of them are yours.
Since then ive taken to signing my initials with a UV pen on the underside of my mini's slottabases. At least that way i have a chance of recovering my stuff if its pinched again.

The main thing i sympathise with is that although an army represents a considerable investment of money its also a considerable investment of time and care too. For me it was several years worth of careful painting and converting which some snotnosed punk decided to help himself to.

Good luck at least hopefully you can recover some of money you've invested

Valo
09-08-2008, 23:22
Thanks alot guys,any help in finding this army would not go unrewarded.


Just out of interest, if you live or parked in a dodgy area why did you leave it in your car?


I've been asking myself that same question all day.Basically,last night I was packing my stuff up for a game,a pretty big one,hence why i had so much of the army with me...and wanted to get it all done last night so I wouldent be rushed today.

It kills me to think that it may be just sitting,broken and ruined in an alley some where.I've got all my buddies around town keeping their eyes peeled,and most of em are not guys you'd want cornering you about stolen goods.

the cops around here are like that...it's just the way it is.
for example,I was sideswiped by a drunk driver,no injuries,and only minor damage,the guy took off,I phoned the police,they told me it would be a few days before they could speak to me,turns out it was a grad night for like 7 high schools that night,and apparently busting kids having parties is far more important the catching a drunk driver with stolen plates who committed a hit and run...they go for whats easy,not what is gonan take some work.

another example......here in St.John's,we have a HUGE arts community,and many tend to enjoy smoking a certain plant,and plant that may I add is LEGAL(in canada)to have in small amounts....but also,here in St.John;s,we have a MASSIVE populace that enjoy,well depend rather,on far more addictive,dangerous drugs.......drugs that make people mug,rob and assault people to get them...

now logic would dictate that you would go after the dangerous,highly addictive,ILLEGAL drugs would it not?you know the one's that caused someone to go and kill someone to get(thsi happened only recently here),or the one that's costing a MASSIVE amount of money,for treatmeant and addiction center's here,and putting more strain on our already struggling health care system.....

no,they go after the guys(you could call them hippies),who hang out out the folk festivals we have every few months and parks,where they are busking.why?because its easy,they won't run,they arent gonna pull a knife,and they don't work for bikers.

america's not the only one with the screwed up governmeant.

Loki73
09-08-2008, 23:28
Im sorry about that man. I really hope you find your stuff in good order.

DEADLOCK_1992
09-08-2008, 23:32
I'm sorry to hear about this and I hope it will turn up soon for you. I'll check for it on ebay when I go on and will tell you about it ASAP.

devilchild
09-08-2008, 23:34
I really hope you get your stuff back, I“d hate that to happen to me.

Ive created a thread on the only other GW based forum im a member of(The warhammer realm), I know theres a couple of canadians there so hopefully they“ll keep an eye open

Fire Harte
09-08-2008, 23:40
Agreed! The Uk govern ment is quite crappy!

Gutted to hear the theft of your minis Velo, really am. Check anywhere and every where you can, and I'll keep an eye out on ebay for you. I shall also e-mail you asap if anything crops up. Also I reccomend getting a mod or two to make an announcment, and spread the word on other forums to. I will make a thread on astronomican, but can you also PM me your details as this will help!

Good luck and lets hope for the best!

Valo
09-08-2008, 23:41
awsome,thanks alot guys,It's nice to know that people actually care about a fellow gamer!

Brother_Chaplian Raimo
09-08-2008, 23:47
I'd like to, if I may, make a suggestion- we here on Warseer are a tight-knit bunch, and Valo is one of us. If the army doesn't turn up, and insurance doesn't cover it, what say we put together a fund/collection, to reimburse him, either in cash or minis. Thoughts? Am I an idiot?

All the best,
Raimo

Latro_
09-08-2008, 23:52
I wonder, can you get elec gps tags these days? that'd almost be worth it for a case with thousands of dollars/pounds of stuff in.

Comrade Wraith
09-08-2008, 23:54
I'd like to, if I may, make a suggestion- we here on Warseer are a tight-knit bunch, and Valo is one of us. If the army doesn't turn up, and insurance doesn't cover it, what say we put together a fund/collection, to reimburse him, either in cash or minis. Thoughts? Am I an idiot?

All the best,
Raimo

I'd Pitch in to that, certainly.

Thraxar
09-08-2008, 23:55
as much as I feel for him and I hope your insurance covers it/you get it back. A few things are painfully obvious :
a) The Never leave anything valuable in your car rule always applies even if your car is parked in your drive
b)we cannot start a fund to reimburse him as this would open up for loads of people teling us sob stories in the hope they can get an army for free.(how do we sort the wheat from the chaff here?)
c) Your army looked awesome, if I see it on ebay I will definately buy it (then return it after pretending its mine at the local store for a few games, for a reward of course :P)

good luck on getting some compensation and let this be a lesson to everyone that if you value it then keep it safe.

galahad67
09-08-2008, 23:58
keep an eye on the local sales boards in your area (is kajiia the name?).

I would go to the police and ask to speak withthe chief or his subordinate or the ombudsman. (police hate the ombudsman = he/she makes them fill out lots of paperwork...)

If that doesn't work go to your municipal elected representative.

city counsellors depend on your votes and you (and your friends) could be the difference in the next election.

keep an eye on bartertown but I doubt the minis are going to leave the island.

Perhaps you could try offering a reward for the army's safe return.

Comrade Wraith
09-08-2008, 23:58
b)we cannot start a fund to reimburse him as this would open up for loads of people teling us sob stories in the hope they can get an army for free.(how do we sort the wheat from the chaff here?)


Aye I was about to edit my post as I considered the follow-on threads all saying their stuff was nicked.

Still, a one off do you think?

Kelkyen
10-08-2008, 00:00
If it's just a local bum, and not a gamer who knew where to look, check the nearby holes. Bums might just drop it if they can't get anything for it. They would go somewhere to hide and see what they had. I found backpack stolen from my car 300 feet away behind an abandoned loading dock next to the railroad tracks. Culverts near footpaths, in woods, etc.

Good luck.

StealthAndFear
10-08-2008, 00:00
I reckon everyone should keep an eye on ebay, as much as possible, because there can be a lot of stuff listed in 40K, and if the scumbag who stole this army doesn't know anything about 40K, then he (or she?) will probably just stick it under the tag 'Warhammer'. I hope that you recover these, it must be a real blow to lose 'em.

EldarBishop
10-08-2008, 00:04
Friend and I had a Magic Card incident many many years ago. Police took a report and a that's about it. Insurance (had a really good policy) did end up covering it (partially).

We had to get a list to three different hobby stores to provide an average cost. The insurance company ended up paying out about half of the average value (better then nothing, but still quite a loss considering we had 3 full sets of power cards - total value was about 12k). Best of luck to you, sir!

With Internet sales much more prevalant now, definately keep an eye out there...

Fire Harte
10-08-2008, 00:05
Ok I have posted a thread on astronomican, and also provided links on my signature.

Comrade Wraith
10-08-2008, 00:12
I too shall put a link in my sig to alert other warseers

Valo
10-08-2008, 00:21
I'd like to, if I may, make a suggestion- we here on Warseer are a tight-knit bunch, and Valo is one of us. If the army doesn't turn up, and insurance doesn't cover it, what say we put together a fund/collection, to reimburse him, either in cash or minis. Thoughts? Am I an idiot?

All the best,
Raimo

Raimo,you my friend are a fine,fine fellow,and a gentleman at that.


I wonder, can you get elec gps tags these days? that'd almost be worth it for a case with thousands of dollars/pounds of stuff in.

damn.......your really onto something there.I'm checking that out.


as much as I feel for him and I hope your insurance covers it/you get it back. A few things are painfully obvious :
a) The Never leave anything valuable in your car rule always applies even if your car is parked in your drive
b)we cannot start a fund to reimburse him as this would open up for loads of people teling us sob stories in the hope they can get an army for free.(how do we sort the wheat from the chaff here?)
c) Your army looked awesome, if I see it on ebay I will definately buy it (then return it after pretending its mine at the local store for a few games, for a reward of course :P)

good luck on getting some compensation and let this be a lesson to everyone that if you value it then keep it safe.

Thanks alot,I totally see where your coming from,and would never expect people to ever do something like that for me,why should i be the lucky one when so many other had had the same happen and get nothing.

And on a further note,if anyone does happen to see this army around,and you do buy it,I will happily repay you plus a reward.....alot of this stuff is more then just money,there is alot of sentimental value....my MK2b land raider for example was a gift from my girfriend,my venerable dread and really memorable trade......plus all the fun I had making this army....luckily,I still have enough stuff here to rebuild alot of it.......If i could just get a few peices back,my MK2B land raider,my terminators and my dreadnought.....they were my real center pieces,and I just can't express how depressed I am about them being gone.


Ok I have posted a thread on astronomican, and also provided links on my signature.

again,thanks,I can't say how much I apprciate it.


If it's just a local bum, and not a gamer who knew where to look, check the nearby holes. Bums might just drop it if they can't get anything for it. They would go somewhere to hide and see what they had. I found backpack stolen from my car 300 feet away behind an abandoned loading dock next to the railroad tracks. Culverts near footpaths, in woods, etc.

Good luck.


thats what I'm thinking,I've looked everywhere I could think of,I even checked all the dumpsters around here!

there's just so many places they could have taken it,its a maze here.

Melchor
10-08-2008, 00:23
Man, this has got to be my second worst wargaming related nightmare. My absolute worst nightmare would be me losing any of my armies due to my own stupidity and not some ****** who think it's a good idea to steal other people's stuff.

I don't think I can do anything to help you other than telling you I sympathise. Just keep your eyes open and hope for the best.

Waywatcher-
10-08-2008, 00:25
Sorry to hear about that, sadly you learned the ' dont leave stuff on display' rule ythe hard way.

I think the criminals need to know whos boss, now, when did i last see my cape...

No, seriously, its not on, hope you get hold of it soon, because I'd be annoyed about the time and paint jobs.

Best of luck

Duckboy

oh wait I mean

Waywatcher

eek107
10-08-2008, 00:31
I feel for ya bud, I've been following your log and I'd be heartbroken if I lost an army like that. I'll keep an eye out on ebay as well... don't think I know anyone in that part of the world but if I do I'll tell 'em to keep their eyes open. Hope it turns up safe and sound. :)

catbarf
10-08-2008, 00:34
Tell your insurance company that it was built with intention of sale, they'll cough up some dough for that.

Valo
10-08-2008, 01:00
Tell your insurance company that it was built with intention of sale, they'll cough up some dough for that.


hey might be an idea,and if i need proof......coolminiornot.com....

ehlijen
10-08-2008, 01:23
I know what this feels like!

I wish you even more luck in getting it back than I had when the police randomly found my eldar army dumped somewhere (with all but one half of a single miniature still there...wtv?).

Did anything in the case carry your name or phone number? On the off chance that the person who took it will throw it away in disappointment (not knowing what he got) it could help if someone finds it (that's how the police found my backpack with my army).

I'd say I'll keep an eye out, but given that I'm of the other hemisphere and don't frequent ebay too much I don't know what that'd be worth :(

TheDarkDuke
10-08-2008, 01:23
Being a Canadian and dealing with said types of thefts on a daily basis at work. It sounds like one of three things here.

1) Younger kids/vandalism fun. The result is your army is most likely tossed an alley. park, garbage, or thrown anywhere really.

2) Drug User. Chances are they thought this case contained electronics, power tools etc. Upon opening it and realizing to them anyways nothing of value, etc. It will end up in the trash, alley etc.

3) Targeted Theft. Someone wanted that army, and knew you had it, knew the knowledge of its value or thought them as cool and wanted them for themselves. This is probably not the case unless you have someone really shady around you, or someone out to get you.

Really I would say its about a 90-95% your army has been tossed somewhere, if this is still recent, I would take a walk around your neighborhood, taking a look around, as this would most likely rule out number 1 for you as someone would probably discard it within 10 minutes of your place.

Hope any of this information will help you out.

On the topic of the Police not caring. Its more or less a general statement given out is that time and time again people do not lock there cars and drunk people, drug users, mischief causer etc, will simply walk around testing doors for really no reason. End result is no suspect, more often then not untraceable goods taken, which results in a too bad so sad type occurrence. Its hard enough for the Police to track down say a credit card theft/fraud user with full footage of the transaction and perfect face shots of these suspects... often doing far more than $1800 worth of theft/fraud. Which puts something like this is the, sorry there is nothing we can do for you, unless you find us nearly all the evidence we need to make a quick easy recovery for you.

Chem-Dog
10-08-2008, 03:03
If it's just a local bum, and not a gamer who knew where to look, check the nearby holes. Bums might just drop it if they can't get anything for it. They would go somewhere to hide and see what they had. I found backpack stolen from my car 300 feet away behind an abandoned loading dock next to the railroad tracks. Culverts near footpaths, in woods, etc.

Good luck.


Being a Canadian and dealing with said types of thefts on a daily basis at work. It sounds like one of three things here.

1) Younger kids/vandalism fun. The result is your army is most likely tossed an alley. park, garbage, or thrown anywhere really.

2) Drug User. Chances are they thought this case contained electronics, power tools etc. Upon opening it and realizing to them anyways nothing of value, etc. It will end up in the trash, alley etc.

3) Targeted Theft. Someone wanted that army, and knew you had it, knew the knowledge of its value or thought them as cool and wanted them for themselves. This is probably not the case unless you have someone really shady around you, or someone out to get you.


I temporarily lost a case full of minis last year for TEN MINUTES and nearly had a breakdown because of it and that was nowhere near the value of the stuff lost here, so you have my deepest sympathies.
I don't want to be a herald of doom here as this sucks massively but vandal kids would have-
A) Made as much damage as possible (ie vandalism) and
B) Smashed the Marines up as part of the vandalism (unless they are aware of GW).
So you're probably looking at somebody who is/knows a collector or is a junkie (worse case scenario is a Junkie who was a collector, they'll know where best to dispose of these things quickly for cash although your desperate Smash'n'grab junkie isn't likely to have an ebay account

Did you report the theft of the miniatures or the break in to the car? It sounds daft but these things can make a difference to how it's investigated and which department does any such investigation, I would urge anyone who has a crime like this committed against them to think quietly for a moment about exactly what's happened and then report the worst crime first (which as best as I can tell in Canada is Breaking and Entering (http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/B/BreakandEnter.aspx)).

Check out any pawnshops discretely, if you see your stuff, don't start hooting and shouting, either buy them back (without touching them if possible, it's amazing how many people fail to dispose of their fingerprints) and take them to the police for forensic stuff OR delay their sale (by putting a deposit on them ect) and report it to the police, a pawnshop that's selling your stolen scorpions might well be responsible for other crimes....

Good luck buddy and I really hope you get some joy out of this.

Norsehawk
10-08-2008, 03:13
Make sure you check the craigslist for your area as well.

Good luck with getting your stuff back, or at least making the insurance company cough up the money or most of it at least.

Bunny Lord
10-08-2008, 03:48
Sorry dude, i'm here for you especially since I know how it feels... Once upon a time somwbody broke into my house and stole my blood angel army. It was missing for about 4 months and it turns out I left it at my FLGS and nobody there new whose it was. So the robbers omly got about $40.00 in cash and thats it. But when it first happened I was devestated.

Lepp
10-08-2008, 04:40
Don't just check ebay, and don't just check under warhammer! check toys, models, everything - and give Craigslist a shot, someone might have thrown it up there!

Calibrate
10-08-2008, 05:50
Yeah... I check craigslist everyday for warhammer deals (you have no idea the deals I pull outta my dirty downstairs). If I find anything supicious (and I have before - refused to buy btw) I will pm you.

For example: I found a deal that was 2 LRBT, 1 LRD, 1 Hellhound and 1 box of Kaserkin for 150 bucks brand new still wrapped.

Light of the Emperor
10-08-2008, 06:03
This is really sad and it angers me greatly. I've been watching that army grow for a while now. I shall be on the lookout.

pssorens
10-08-2008, 06:09
sad thing is that the thieves more than likely thought it was a gun case rather than a mini case

zanotam
10-08-2008, 06:18
I doubt I'll remember to check, but I totally support you in your efforts dude. That seriously sucks that you lost your minatures. Especially such a large army you worked so hard on.

Adra
10-08-2008, 11:58
Ill keep an eye out online as will my ebay loving mates. It sounds like a great force and im very sorry it was taken. Many of us know the anger of just having one model stolen after having put so much time into it. Money is almost a secondary concern over the love put into the work. I hope it turns up mate.

Gx

Fire Harte
10-08-2008, 14:42
Well the guys at astro have really jumped on this, and one of the members called Arctophlax Faren passes on his regards and Sympathy.

Also please check the astro thread as the topic is worth checking out.

http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7646

Dead Man Walking
10-08-2008, 15:00
You should of checked the local trash cans, if they saw a case that could of been mistaken for a gun case then they probably took it to a back alley, saw it was not a gun and tossed it.

Valo
10-08-2008, 16:03
Well the guys at astro have really jumped on this, and one of the members called Arctophlax Faren passes on his regards and Sympathy.

Also please check the astro thread as the topic is worth checking out.

http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7646

thanks alot harte,just wondering if you could pass along a huge thatnks to the guys over there,I really apprciate everything,everyone's doing to help me out.


You should of checked the local trash cans, if they saw a case that could of been mistaken for a gun case then they probably took it to a back alley, saw it was not a gun and tossed it.

I spent 3 hours yesterday searching any and all dumpsters,alley's and backyards within 1km of my house...still nothing..there's just way to may places to look around here.

Fire Harte
10-08-2008, 16:29
I'd check a wider area if I were you Valo! Those minis are great and I want to see more of them!

Also it is good to see your faith in GW is not dead after such a tragic loss!

Fire Harte

Vult
10-08-2008, 16:42
Being a Canadian and dealing with said types of thefts on a daily basis at work. It sounds like one of three things here.

1) Younger kids/vandalism fun. The result is your army is most likely tossed an alley. park, garbage, or thrown anywhere really.

2) Drug User. Chances are they thought this case contained electronics, power tools etc. Upon opening it and realizing to them anyways nothing of value, etc. It will end up in the trash, alley etc.

3) Targeted Theft. Someone wanted that army, and knew you had it, knew the knowledge of its value or thought them as cool and wanted them for themselves. This is probably not the case unless you have someone really shady around you, or someone out to get you.

Really I would say its about a 90-95% your army has been tossed somewhere, if this is still recent, I would take a walk around your neighborhood, taking a look around, as this would most likely rule out number 1 for you as someone would probably discard it within 10 minutes of your place.

Hope any of this information will help you out.

On the topic of the Police not caring. Its more or less a general statement given out is that time and time again people do not lock there cars and drunk people, drug users, mischief causer etc, will simply walk around testing doors for really no reason. End result is no suspect, more often then not untraceable goods taken, which results in a too bad so sad type occurrence. Its hard enough for the Police to track down say a credit card theft/fraud user with full footage of the transaction and perfect face shots of these suspects... often doing far more than $1800 worth of theft/fraud. Which puts something like this is the, sorry there is nothing we can do for you, unless you find us nearly all the evidence we need to make a quick easy recovery for you.

You took the words right out of my mouth. Those three examples are probably 99% of all theft cases. I work in the states and see these sorts of things all the time. It bothers me that I cant help more, but the simple truth is that this is not CSI and we can not get prints off of just anything and DNA results do not return in an hour (if you get a match at all!).

That said, If I ever get a case like this...I will remember what you went through with your experience and do what I can to get the items back and not make the victim feel like I did not care. Especially also being a gamer I would be furious, and when said mope(career criminal and all around worthless piece of trash) was found he would be handled with the "proper" care.

You don't mess with fellow gamers!

Lantern
10-08-2008, 17:40
I think this thread shows exactly what is RIGHT with the gaming community.Too often, people spend thier time complaining about this and that within the hobby, but here, everyone has rallied round a common cause of sympathy and anger that is rightly justified. If anything, I hope that anyone who reads this thread can at least walk away with that sense of community and cameraderie that a crime such as this can bring about that can only improve the hobby as a whole.

NB, Whilst I agree that thier cannot be common whip-rounds to replace models in these kind of instances, I think that its obvious this is a legitmate case. Even if evryone was to send £1 or $1 through paypal, it would go a long way. In worst case,maybe people out there have spare Red Scorpian bits and peices they would be willing to giftto Valo (thus getting around that pesky "drug money" worry about others trying this on).

lijah_cuu
10-08-2008, 18:46
Just a quick thought, I don't know how it works in your area but have you tried contacting your trash guys / company?? if anything odd or interesting came up it would maybe stick in their mind?? Hopefully you might not have to go through an entire landfill site though.....

HsojVvad
10-08-2008, 18:52
Why don't you post pics of your finished army? I tried going to your link but got tired of searching the in work progress to see the final product.

I do go on Ebay to see if I can find any good deals for GW minis, so re edit your first post to post a pic of your final finished minis, and good luck.

Calibrate
10-08-2008, 20:11
Yup... Post a picture.

catbarf
10-08-2008, 20:15
They're in his sig, right below every single post he makes.

Earthbeard
10-08-2008, 20:23
really sorry to hear this Valo.

Wishing you luck on recovering these.

HsojVvad
10-08-2008, 20:31
They're in his sig, right below every single post he makes.

I went there. The first few pics are work in progress. I got tired of scrolling down to look for the pics. There are over 12 pages, and don't want to look through them all to find the final one since it could be posted in the middle and not at the end.

Adra
10-08-2008, 20:47
Doubt it was targeted for the simple reason that he made an error in leaving his army in his car, something which he does not do normaly. Its a bit too random chance for a targeted theft.

theshadowduke
10-08-2008, 22:14
just remember that anything over $1000 is grand theft, remind the police of that.

Valo
10-08-2008, 23:14
Why don't you post pics of your finished army? I tried going to your link but got tired of searching the in work progress to see the final product.

I do go on Ebay to see if I can find any good deals for GW minis, so re edit your first post to post a pic of your final finished minis, and good luck.

right,just went back and edit the first post,thanks.


really sorry to hear this Valo.

Wishing you luck on recovering these.

again,thank you.


just remember that anything over $1000 is grand theft, remind the police of that.

I was quite pressing about the value of whats been taken,they basicallly told me its not worth their time unless the jeep itself was stolen.

onnotangu
11-08-2008, 00:06
had my tyranid army stolenlong ago. I still never found it and all I have to show for it is a window that will never roll down quite right.

btw. always put yer army in yer trunk and if it looks like a toolbox or laptop bag lock it out of sight or under a blanket.

warsmithferrousmaximus
11-08-2008, 00:45
Sorry to hear of your loss Valo. iknow i would feel just as devastated if my Iron Warriors army went AWOL but i have not spent half as mush on them.
The trouble is that the bastard that stole the stuff either didnt know what they were taking, as has been said, or they only looked at its monetary value, not the months of blood, sweat and tears you put into building such a massive army. I will keep an eye on Ebay and i hope to hear that they are returned safe and well. Best of luck and hope it all turns out for the best!

IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT:skull:

ps. its so good to see the worldwide community pull together so well when something like this happens!!

Wraithbored
11-08-2008, 01:01
Aww geez I'm so sorry to hear this man, I don't think I can help you since I am in Europe but I will keep an eye out, it's the only thing I can do :(

Filthy O'Bedlam
11-08-2008, 01:06
It's times like this I wish Chainswords were real. I don't think the army will make it's way to Southern Ontario where I am, but I'll keep my eyes open and check e-bay and anywhere it might have gotten to. Really sorry about this, wish I could somehow make it better.

Best Wishes and good luck

pol
11-08-2008, 01:40
Well I think the thief should be someone who know the true value of Warhammer 40k minis because all people that do not know them don't know their value. I would check any local gamers that you know. I hope you will find them soon.

Triggerdog
11-08-2008, 01:49
PM sent and I'm up in arms. With the amount of stuff I sent you to build that army I demand justice.

HsojVvad
11-08-2008, 02:17
Thanks for the links. WOW great job in painting, I will keep my eye out for them. I am in Ontario I don't think I will see them in person but who knows about the web.

There is Craig's List and Kiji (or something like that) to keep an eye out for as well.

HsojVvad
11-08-2008, 02:19
A quick question though, anything else missing out of your car, or just the 40K minatures?

Triggerdog
11-08-2008, 02:43
Thanks for the links. WOW great job in painting, I will keep my eye out for them. I am in Ontario I don't think I will see them in person but who knows about the web.

There is Craig's List and Kiji (or something like that) to keep an eye out for as well.

yeah, they're pretty easy to spot. dont forgot Bartertown

Valo
11-08-2008, 02:50
A quick question though, anything else missing out of your car, or just the 40K minatures?



yeah,a guants ghosts novel,i think its straight silver..and the ultra marines omnibus,also an old copy of my registration and an old copy of my insurance,neither of which are valid

HsojVvad
11-08-2008, 03:02
yeah,a guants ghosts novel,i think its straight silver..and the ultra marines omnibus,also an old copy of my registration and an old copy of my insurance,neither of which are valid

So basically everything you are missing that is 40K related. You have anything else in the car that would be of value that someone would steal but didn't?

Maybe as some people said the person who took it knew what they were taking, so that means there is only a few places where it can be sold. Being in ST Johns, it being a small town, I don't expect alot of gaming stores there so you might be able to call around and ask for them to keep an eye out if anyone trying to sell them, and then Ebay and the other sites as mentioned before for them to be sold.

The only problem is someone could take some black paint and just spray them, and sell them on Ebay saying they were primed and put together to cover up your awsome job.

Hope for the best, will keep my eye out for them.

Copella
11-08-2008, 03:26
Horrible thing to happen to anyone. If you think its possible that the thief knew what they stole, than you might want to contact gaming stores in Quebec, PEI, and even here in Nova Scotia. Its possible they may turn up on a trade/sell list in one of those spots.
It maybe more likely that they don't know what they have, which in a way makes things harder to deal with. Since they'll just try and pawn it or trash it. So contacting pawn shops or any hobby shops really outside of your local community (maybe local ones too, seeing it is St.Johns, which isn't as small as people think).
Sadly, the police are not going to go out of their way for this. To them its just plastic toys. Which they see as worthless. Sad, but that will be how most look at it. If you are really gung-ho about it, a private investigator would be the only one that might be willing to help. For a fee of course (which won't be cheap).
I'll spread the word around my area. Hopefully you luck out and they're found.
Best of luck in finding them tho.

Jellicoe
11-08-2008, 08:51
No idea whether you have car boot fairs in Canada like we do over here in blighty - An ideal way to get rid of stolen goods where the thief has no real idea of their true value

Garage sales may be an equivalent?

ironcurtin117
12-08-2008, 23:59
I've had experiences with theft before and I would recommend you find the Lost and found auction site for your local police and sanitation department, I know it sounds odd but I had my boxing gear stolen ($800 dolllars of custom tailored clothing and stuff) and after two months of waiting I was searching for a bike and was directed to the NYPD lost and found auction site. Lo and behold on the FRONT PAGE was my gym bag, medals and all. If you believe that it was taken in a case of mistaken identity, then someone might have dumped it and it might have been found. Hope this gives you an idea.

Good Luck

Dictator
13-08-2008, 00:07
The perpetrator of such a crime should be reported to the high inquisitor and be subjected to ceremonial crucifixion.

But in all seriousness, I am really sorry to hear about this. I would be really pissed; at both the burglar(s?) and the ineffectual police. Good luck, and I will keep my eye on ebay for you.

The Base
13-08-2008, 05:15
Honestly put up some posters offering like a $100 reward for it's return....

I mean it might suck have to pay to get it back, but it is probably your best shot.

Whoever took it likely doesn't know the value, nor do warhammer models really have much value to the general public. So the thief is probably going to be happy to get the $100 and you will be happy to get your $1800 in models + weeks of painting time back.

Overt_Spy
13-08-2008, 05:30
I'm very saddened hearing of your plight Valo. In the off chance whoever committed this crime comes through Massachusetts, I'll be looking out here as well. Best of luck to you, I know this really is a terrible situation.

CPT Commissar Ginn
28-08-2008, 08:53
Check the dumpsters near where the stuff was taken. Once the thief realizes there were no guns in those cases. Hell probably ditch them. Or just throw them away on the street.

Ambu
28-08-2008, 11:37
Ahh that sucks man, i'll help monitor auction sites. A bud of mine went through this a few years back with his Tyranids (2000 pts). Not being very big in this area we think they thought it was something else (alot of us here keep our armies in gun cases). Never did find anything.

Also, hate to mention this, but with scrap selling like it has been have you checked your loacal recycling centers (for the metal minis dont THINK the plastic be worth that much).

HereticLosMorte
28-08-2008, 16:11
Thanks for the links. WOW great job in painting, I will keep my eye out for them. I am in Ontario I don't think I will see them in person but who knows about the web.

There is Craig's List and Kiji (or something like that) to keep an eye out for as well.

the site is kijiji.ca, my gf is an addict to it.
sorry to hear about your loss, i will keep my eyes open for it, although chances it comes to southern ontario,like others have said, is unlikely.

ChaosBeast
01-09-2008, 17:03
i'd be devestated if my army got nicked, and its only £300-£400 worth.

i really hope u find your army, i'll keep an eye out on Ebay

sorry man

Terminator jax
14-10-2008, 15:06
Sorry to hear about your lose, those models were awesome. This may sound like a very extreme idea but if your going to keep spending lots of money on them why dont you invest in some kind of tracking device which you could hide in the army case. So if it happens again you'll be able to know were it is and give that information to the police. Good luck finding them.