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Tarsus
18-08-2008, 15:45
I dont know if this is the right place to ask this question so any mods might have to move it if i got it wrong.

Im building a board that features the wreckage of a crashed imperial ship, and i need some information about the layout and size.

Im planning on using the sword class frigate as its small yet looks obviously imperial, but theres background information on them anywhere. Im specifically looking for measurements, height breadth and lenght, deck numbers and layout, crew size, gun calliber and numbers, basically any information at all.

If there is no info on the sword in particular then any escort or smaller class of imperial ship will do as it will give me something to work off.

The only info i can find is the large capital ships and mass transporters that are recorded as being several miles long and can transport whole regiments and vehicals, it says the escort ships are significantly smaller but gives no specifics.

Thanks for any help.

Sojourner
18-08-2008, 15:53
There's some comparison site that lists the cobra as 300m long; this, if my calculations are correct, corresponds to approximately 4.5 metres on the 40k tabletop. I wouldn't expect frigates to be very much longer than this, but they're probably bulkier.

A whole escort ship would make an amazing mega-battle setting, but it's a hell of a project for an individual. It'll be amazing if you can pull it off.

Yayale
18-08-2008, 16:05
4.5m? WOW where do you live? and if you pull it off can I come round yours to play?

Burnthem
18-08-2008, 16:09
Yup, if your looking at building an entire Destroyer/Frigate it is one hell of a task, i recommend just building part of one, there is a picture of the front of a crashed 40K scale Cobra floating around the 'net somewhere if your Google-Fu is strong enough.

Tarsus
18-08-2008, 16:20
well thats about twice as big as i was expecting. I was never going to build the whole ship anyway, its was going to be buried under the snow with only parts jutting through.

But if it really is that big then i think ill just build the armoured prow and a few forward gun decks, then ill just use a line of rubble to represent the rest.

EDIT :

http://ca.games-workshop.com/Community/Events_Coverage/GamesDay0506/40kmega/DSCN1869z.jpg

Ok so as it turns out the cobra is very big, and the sword is around 20% larger than that. So I either build (very) out of scale I go for a smaller ship, although i dont know any easily recognisable ships smaller than this, or i do something entirely different.

Hrw-Amen
18-08-2008, 18:40
I do remember reading in one of the BFG magazines that a Firestorm frigate in Epic scale was 5 meters long. Not sure what that scales up to for 40K, but that would be huge!

RCgothic
18-08-2008, 19:29
I think that cobra isn't big enough. I heard they were 1.5km long.

40k scale that would be more than 650 space marines tall, or about 33m long.

Gloryseeker
18-08-2008, 21:06
ok so it looks like a whole ship may be to big to be practical. But i have an idea how about building part of the ship with a cut away section, with decks and seperate rooms and stuff and have it as a boarding action.

Or you could just make up a large transport ship that is used to drop whole rediments on to enermy world and then you could make it as large as you want.

Colonel_Kreitz
19-08-2008, 01:37
[QUOTE=Sojourner;2875915]There's some comparison site that lists the cobra as 300m long; this, if my calculations are correct, corresponds to approximately 4.5 metres on the 40k tabletop. QUOTE]

Wow. Well, if you play in a large, open, very high ceilinged cargo bay of a frigate or freighter, that'd finally put the Basilisk's range to actual use...

chaos0xomega
19-08-2008, 04:55
You could always just create your own class of ship, say it's an orbital dropship or something, make it 3-6 feet long, and borrow elements from the larger ones. Not hard really...

Burnthem
19-08-2008, 15:49
You could always just create your own class of ship, say it's an orbital dropship or something, make it 3-6 feet long, and borrow elements from the larger ones. Not hard really...

QFT. The list of ships that the Imperium uses is by no means limited, just think up some small inter-system patrol craft, or maybe a large landing craft or something.

Eternus
19-08-2008, 15:53
QFT. The list of ships that the Imperium uses is by no means limited, just think up some small inter-system patrol craft, or maybe a large landing craft or something.

Definitely. The Sword class frigate is about two thirds again the size of the Cobra, so you're not gonna get a whole one on the table unless the table is about the size of a tennis court. Ok, maybe I exaggerate, but you get the idea.

Killgore
19-08-2008, 17:40
I'd recommand building generic Imperial Spaceship wreckage scattered across the table

for example a large weapon turret embeded into the ground, large sheets of metal lying everywhere, Engine thrusters etc

that way you dont have to worry about niggling issues such as scale or class

chaos0xomega
19-08-2008, 19:10
Also, if you go with that route, you can make it semi-modular. I.E., make a table with the snow (you said snow right?) and ice, and then make seperate wreckage pieces. This way, you can scale the terrain to the size of the game. You want to play a game on a 6x4 or 8x4 table? No problem, just don't use the larger pieces. Going 40x6 for a monstrously large apoc game? Use it all! and while ou're at it, build some more!!!

horizon
19-08-2008, 19:20
Following is supported by majority of the bfg community:

Imperial Navy
escorts: 750m (Cobra) - 1000m
cruisers:~3km
battleships: ~5km

DarkAzrael169
20-08-2008, 10:05
I dont know if this is the right place to ask this question so any mods might have to move it if i got it wrong.

Im building a board that features the wreckage of a crashed imperial ship, and i need some information about the layout and size.

Im planning on using the sword class frigate as its small yet looks obviously imperial, but theres background information on them anywhere. Im specifically looking for measurements, height breadth and lenght, deck numbers and layout, crew size, gun calliber and numbers, basically any information at all.

If there is no info on the sword in particular then any escort or smaller class of imperial ship will do as it will give me something to work off.

The only info i can find is the large capital ships and mass transporters that are recorded as being several miles long and can transport whole regiments and vehicals, it says the escort ships are significantly smaller but gives no specifics.

Thanks for any help.

If your using a regular size board (4" by 6"?), your not fitting it on one board, it. Frigates are HUGE.

Sojourner
20-08-2008, 10:26
I actually thought a bit about this before, and started a thread (http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122596) on the various lesser-seen ships of the Navy, but most people seemed to be bored to death with the war- and statistics-anal-retentiveness, so it died relatively quickly.

From those definitions, I'd suggest that a LCM - Landing Craft, Medium - would be a good bet. Presumably yours tried to hang around too long under fire and came off badly.

horizon
20-08-2008, 10:33
Warp Rift 19 features a good article on the Navis Mercantiles.
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