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Mercer
10-09-2008, 16:04
Can someone provide me with background info on the Iron Warriors, notable characters and if possible, colour scheme as well please.

I'm looking to convert my black legion into Iron Warriors. In kknow they use siege warmachines, such as vindicators, defilers, dreadnoughts etc. But would they use terminators and daemons?

Thanks

Mercer

Art Is Resistance
10-09-2008, 16:16
Iron Warriors - metal with yellow/black.

Primarch - Perturabo

Siege Specialists.

Oh hell - just go here All you need to know about the Iron Warriors (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Iron_Warriors)

Mercer
10-09-2008, 16:26
What colour metal? mithril silver? boltgun?

Mercer

LokkoRex
10-09-2008, 16:50
drybrush boltgun metal;)

yay, another joins the sons of perturabo!

i hope you know they prefer ranged combat, letting lasblast and bolt shell do their work for them.

a good purchase would be index astartes 1(damn i'm glad i got it:D), propably hard to track down, but full of fluff and background.

Ell
10-09-2008, 16:50
Use boltgun metal and/or gun metal on iron warriors. They use obliterators more than terminators I think, so you might want to get some of those.

~Ell~

The_Warsmith
10-09-2008, 17:33
they use alot of terminators the heavy armour is great in siege situations, they also use obliterators alot too

i recommend buying or borowing from someone the book 'storm of iron' a great resource on iron warriors and a fantastic source of inspiration too :)

Mercer
11-09-2008, 12:20
ok guys I 've go the following, can you let me know if iron warriors would make use of it:

daemon prince
chaos lord in terminator armour
sorceror

terminators
chosen

2 x troops one unit with rocket launcher
1 x troops with ccw weapons
daemons

defiler
vindicator

thanks

mercer

Ddraiglais
11-09-2008, 12:24
The IW are siege specialists. That's what led to their choice in joining Horus. The big E left them behind on garrison duty. They didn't get any of the glory. Because of this, it was easy for Horus to convince them to join him. They have a close working relationship with the traitor titan legions.

Some of their more noted battles include the Battle of Tallarn (the largest tank battle EVER and the reason Tallarn looks like it does ;)), the Siege of Terra, the Iron Cage, and the siege of Hydra Cordatus. They also did well on Kasr Partox during the 13th BC. The IW trust noone. They are even more paranoid than your average CSM. This is probably why the IW did not take part in the 12th BC. The siege at Hydra Cordatus was to make it up to Abby.

The IW place all of their faith in their weapons and wargear. While most other legions cherish their daemonic "gifts", the IW will cut them off and replace them with bionics. They are famed for the amount of firepower they bring to a battle. The IW tend to be cautious. They will saturate an area with fire before sending in the troops.

Famous Iron Warriors are Perturabo (the primarch), Forrix, Honsou, Kroeger, Toramino, and Berosus (I probably murdered the spelling of those names).

Others have mentioned the color scheme. It's gunmetal with yellow and black hazard stripes.

Iron Warriors would definately make use of terminators. They don't summon daemons. They do trap daemons into their cannons. They have DPs and possesed as well. On a side note, the only cult troops that would be common among the Iron Warriors are bezerkers. If you want to use other cult troops, I have a couple of suggestions for you. You could convert some IW with lots of bionics and use plaguemarine rules (bionics gives their toughness). You could probably convert some new weapons and use the rules for sonic weaponry (noise marines).

Fantastica
11-09-2008, 13:13
the list looks okay, with one alteration.

last time there were rules for the IW legion, they couldn't use deamons.

just to give you an idea of what the army used to look like, their rules were:

as many oblits as you want (used to be a 0-1 choice)
may trade 2 fast attack slots for 1 extra heavy slot
may use Vindicators and "Basalisks" (chaos had access to neither then)
no marks other than undivided (that turned into icon of chaos glory)
no deamons other than deamon princes and possesed
we could buy servo arms like tech marines had

also your lilst has 3 HQ's i presume you weren't planning to use it all at once

Mercer
11-09-2008, 13:17
No, no thats just a list of the models I have currently.

So, looks like no daemons then. Will need more siege weaponary, perhaps another vindicator :)

Also, what is the deal with the hazard warnings?

Mercer

Insane Psychopath
11-09-2008, 13:20
Use boltgun metal and/or gun metal on iron warriors. They use obliterators more than terminators I think, so you might want to get some of those.

~Ell~

Nope they where the first legion to have Obliterators in there ranks & was also notied that some of the trooper had morphing (sp) weapon abilty.

Termies are use just as much like any other legion. We just don't use Fast Attack units as much it more Heavy Support.

They also do not use Daemons, though Daemon Prince are still in due to a IW Warsmith doing good deed for the Chaps gods like all other legions.

Cult troops, though we make little use (usely Bezerker) people can alway count as useing Cult unit like Thasound Sons (sp?) can act as a super up elite unit of mark men with force feild. While Pleage Marines can act as Bionic heavy IWs.

Fantastica
11-09-2008, 18:28
the hazard warning I have no clue as to why.

perhaps it was chosen to make them look more "industrial"

that or simply 'cause it looked cool.. that works too

SwordJon
11-09-2008, 19:06
Just read Storm of Iron.

That's all you really need to know.

Nazguire
12-09-2008, 01:26
Well as others have pointed out, the Iron Warriors information is all in Lexicanum.

Their Primarch Perturabo was a very bitter and paranoid Primarch, all good qualities in a siege I would think, but this tended to make him stand alone from the rest of the Primarchs. Put him at odds with Rogal Dorn, with whom he had a big argument that caused a division amongst the Primarchs.

We've learned that essentially there were two Warmasters of the Imperium, with Horus being the official one, and Rogal Dorn being an almost symbolic one. And it was an argument with Perturabo that caused some Primarchs to be more likely to align themselves with one or the other Primarch, Horus or Dorn.

The reason he left to join Horus was not because Horus promised him riches and rewards and conquest, but simple appreciation. Perturabo ground his Legion into the dirt, never resting nor taking time out, and split his Legion up all across the Imperium (which proved an advantage for Horus during the Heresy, as they became resupply points for the Traitor Legions) was in constant siege actions and took horrendous casualties. And didn't gain the recognition he believed he deserved

(the official Iron Warriors wallpaper on the GW website is an example of this Pre-Heresy, with the Iron Warriors tending to casualties and looking very exhausted and shell-shocked, if it is possible for Astartes to get that, with an Imperial Fists flag flying over the ruined fortress)

So all that Horus had to do to Perturabo was to give him a reason to leave. Olympia revolted which may or may not have been because of Horus, and Perturabo convinced himself that he'd never be forgiven and may as well join the stronger side. (never mind that the World Eaters, Night Lords and Iron Hands probably killed 5 million people regularly during the Great Crusade, such as the Diasporex)

warsmithferrousmaximus
12-09-2008, 08:34
excellent another iron warrior!! As for information i would just end up echoing everyone else. My only advice is definatley read storm of iron, best book for an insight into iron warrior tactics and arrangement.

Also i remember reading somewhere that the hazard stripes are to show how they mark thier weapons and wargear to show thier methods of ripping down all they helped to build in the crusade.

if its possible to get hold of the extra kit of metal parts for the iron warriors look great. also if you want to go back to the full siege theme for them go to building an apocalypse size force. this means loads of tanks and siege guns plus the ability to field a baneblade and /or titans


good luck with the change and its good to see another join the ranks