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Sam Spade
21-09-2008, 02:13
I was reading though IA2 and it told me that useually Bikes are crewed by tactical marines. I was just curious are landspeeders crewed by tac marines aswell? Also what company would these generally come from, cause under the battle company orginazation there are no room for these?

Koryphaus
21-09-2008, 02:50
Bikes and Land Speeders are ridden/piloted by Assault Marines AFAIK, and their pilots/riders are from the same company that the bikes and landspeeders are part of.

imperial_scholar
21-09-2008, 05:05
Yea... IA2 is old fluff now. the new SM covers some of this. They use to think tacticals were after scout... now tacticals are almost veterans **rolls eyes**

Orthodox
21-09-2008, 05:50
The two tactical reserve companies specialize in bike or speeder training, respectively.

Ultra battle companies come with a standard supply of 25 bikes, five attack bikes, and 15 speeders. The idea is that it depends on the chapter or the captain. Assault marines are the ostensible defaults, because missions do not always need jumppackers. The point of the new mounted assault rule for captains is that if the captain feels like it, 75 marines from one company can mount as bikers, attack bikers, speeders or jumppackers. If he's not that kind of captain, the unused bikes and speeders are just spares for the assault section. That is where the variation in codex-adherent organization comes from.

Hrw-Amen
21-09-2008, 11:03
I imagine that it would depend on the chapter and how they organise things.

As has been said in most cases of codex chapters it appears to be the assault marines, but then you have the ravenwing for example. What is to say that other marine chapters don't have something similar?

In my current marine army I have given the bikes and speeders to the 1st company veterans, but then that is just my choice.

So really it depends on if you are making a codex chapter or not.

ChaosBeast
21-09-2008, 12:57
the new marine codex says that the 7th company is trained to use bikes and the 8th company are trained to use landspeeders, although i believe all marines have at least basic training in these fields.

Koryphaus
21-09-2008, 13:23
The 6th and 7th have always been a Tactical Reserve, the 8th the Assault Reserve. Looks like they're modifying their stance a little.

imperial_scholar
21-09-2008, 14:43
The answer is:
ANY MARINE INCLUDING SCOUTS!
(Image from dakka dakka)

alphaecho
21-09-2008, 15:40
Insignium Astartes (from 2002) shows that of the reserve companies, the 6th and 7th (Tacticals) are trained in the use of Bikes and Landspeeders respectively. The aim being to provide the main Battle companies with extra vehicle mounted re-inforcements if necessary. The Assault reserve (the 8th) is trained to use both bikes and landspeeders. Thats the reason why in my UM army, the landspeeder crews have purple trims and my bike crews orange. They are re-inforcements to my 2nd company.

Supremearchmarshal
21-09-2008, 16:20
Bikes are used by the 2nd to 6th companies plus the 8th company.

Land Speeders are used by 2nd to 5th companies plus the 7th and 8th company.

So it's either Tactical or Assault marines.

Lord Zarkov
21-09-2008, 17:06
The answer is:
ANY MARINE INCLUDING SCOUTS!
(Image from dakka dakka)

That picture though is the new Scout land speeder (Storm IIRC, it can transport scouts and comes equipped with scouty type equipment (jammers, homing beacons, etc))

Burnthem
21-09-2008, 19:03
Yes, it goes without saying that all Marines would be trained in every piece of equipment used by the Chapter, from Meltaguns to Whirlwinds. Having a Marine jump into a Landspeeder that's lost it's crew and just stare at the controls whilst saying "Uuhhh...." really isn't an option for the best trained military force the galaxy has ever seen :D

ChaosBeast
21-09-2008, 19:08
yes but its all a matter of specialisation. the 6th and 7th companies (sorry, i got it wrong above) specialise in bikes and landspeeders but they all have basic training in all fields. of course 'basic' training to a marine would probably make him equivalent to a veteran war hero in the IG.