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Vinze
25-04-2005, 03:39
Hi to all, this is my first message here. :D

I found this on a Spanish Forum (credits to the poster): Foro Marcus Beli (http://marcusbeli.urbenalia.com/AdminWHF/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4219&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

On to the subject :rolleyes: these are pictures taken from GD France:

Army Book Cover:

http://fotos.miarroba.com/fotos/5/3/53be36ac.jpg

General Shot:

http://fotos.miarroba.com/fotos/d/4/d4cf5d57.jpg

2 Wood Elves Heroes:

http://fotos.miarroba.com/fotos/1/8/18719691.jpg

Waywatcher's Champion:

http://fotos.miarroba.com/fotos/e/3/e367e93c.jpg

Waywatchers:

http://fotos.miarroba.com/fotos/3/f/3fb10652.jpg

Glade Guard Sprues:

http://fotos.miarroba.com/fotos/a/5/a5ffec35.jpg

Glade Guard's Box Art:

http://fotos.miarroba.com/fotos/2/2/22f61af8.jpg

Continue on next post...

Vinze
25-04-2005, 03:41
... from the post above


Dryad's Champion:

http://fotos.miarroba.com/fotos/e/e/ee1e0198.jpg

Lémures (Treekin?):

http://fotos.miarroba.com/fotos/8/8/88488ec5.jpg

I really like the new Woodies :) I'm planning myself of get some of them.. :rolleyes:

Some random things:
- No spears in Glade Guard Sprues
- Really like the Daemo... Dryad Champion
- Are the Lémures the Treekin? What they are? :confused:

Well, feel free to discuss ;)

Aeris Green Finger
25-04-2005, 04:45
THIS IS WHAT A LEMURE IS...!!!!!!

A direct translation of Lémure is lemur which comes from the latin lemures :a beast of roman mythology eg. some sort of spirit of the dead or a ghost so its probably a tree spirit :D but im sur you knew that ;) but any way it looks really cool and its going to have a daemonic 5+ward and thats all that matters

Kroq
25-04-2005, 04:47
Whoa !!!!!!! look at those !

Thanks for the post Vinze . You're my new hero :D

Malachi
25-04-2005, 04:47
Thanks so much for the pictures Vinze, what a deluge!

Though I have to admit, there are a few disappointments:

The army book cover art is awful, mainly because of too much yellow and the elf on the left.

The waywatchers look no where near as good as the old ones. Though this is understandable given that the old waywatchers where some of the best in the range, I was hoping for more camoflauge and dynamicsm. Hopefully it's just the photo, and they'll look better once painted.

The dryad champion pic is also disappointing, but that's only because we can't really see anything.

Now onto the positives:

The heroes are awesome! Especially the one with the sword, by far one of the best hero figs I've seen in a while, though I have no idea how they'll fit rank up with other infantry.

The Lemures (I'm thinking tree-kin as well Vinze) look pretty damn sweet, especially the one on the right.

The Glade Guard sprue looks promising, even though it doesn't have spears, and the box art is pretty damn cool, makes the half-masks look decent.

On a general note, am I the only one who doesn't like the bows? The Hero having an ornate bow I get, but the Glade Guard's bows seem way to decorative, and I really don't like how the handle sticks out so much.

Xand0r
25-04-2005, 05:43
Ya, not very camoflauge looking for the waywatchers. I expected more cloak. I'll reserve judgement until I can see the details more clearly.

Painted example are always more pretty. ;)

Good find!

Nazguire
25-04-2005, 06:27
Excellent. Though I won't collect the Wood Elves, I am now a definate fan of them. The heroes look really dynamic and the waywatchers I'm a fan of, contrary to other peoples opinions. The fact that they are moving into a more diverse style of play instead of move, shoot, move away, move back, shoot rinse and repeat, with the dryads and treekin is a good sign.

EffCee
25-04-2005, 07:19
Must say I'm impressed, though it is hard to tell when the minis are just bare metal. I especially like the Hero with the double-handed sword and the box art for the Glade Guard is excellent!

Galonthar
25-04-2005, 07:58
hmmm...

acatualy I`m somewhat dissapointed about them,...

but good things first,
I must say I love the glade guard (allthough the sprue is kinda cunfusing),
and the art on the glade guard box :)
and I like the heroes, both the one with sword, and the one with bow (what does the one with bow have with his head?)
and the sword that he wields, its surely to big to be a normal "hand weapon", does this mean we`ll get great weapons then????

but now... :eek:
-GW can`t be serious about the pic on the army book,... it`s awfull!
-the treekin thingies are well.... to much choas mutations to me
-I suppose the dryad is just a bad photo

is it me, or is one of those watwatchers female? :p

mangustheix
25-04-2005, 08:02
I think they all look pretty good. I HATE the fact that the champions have little bits of scenery on their bases though. it will make them a nightmare to convert. The models themselves look really good though. Waywatchers are a little dissappointing, but some of it may be due to the pictures.

Sir_Glonojad
25-04-2005, 08:21
Hey, that's unfair! All we got at Polish GD was a sprue! :rolleyes:

Thanks for the photos that much more, than! Thanks a great lot!

Il Magno
25-04-2005, 10:06
Great job done, Vinze!
You are the first one to edit so many of the new models pictures!
Many thanks to you.

Eldrik Oeil de Lune
25-04-2005, 10:26
Maybe the pictures come from the french Warhammer Forum (http://forum.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=41413&st=550) . There are some more blurry pictures there.

The Lémure is obviously a Treekin, if you look at the base of this creature. The translation of the first page is correct. But bringing a word from roman mythology to the wood elves forests is however a strange work from the french translation...

Anyway, I really like the new wood elves!
From someone who could touch the minis: the metal ones are dynamic, savage and detailed; but the plastic glade guard seemed not so good. The cloak joint looked bad for him.

Darius Rhiannon
25-04-2005, 11:32
Well it is interesting to note that there is almost double the amount of heads required on the sprues. I counted 8 (at least) head-like objects on a 4 elf sprue.

Also it is good to see that "mono-pose" rumours have been laid to rest.

ceimeifukan
25-04-2005, 12:27
hey guys just to clear up a few things, as far as i can see the foresters are scouts, and i may be mistaken but it appears to me some of you are mistaking them for waywatchers. The waywatchers are shown in the bottom of the archer photo and look exactly the same as the current batch. Plus the female hero with the huge sword looks like a spear to me and the pose seems to suggest she's sitting on a beast possibly a dragon judging by the width of her legs.

Just my little comments which may be entirely out of place.

Phil

Aeris Green Finger
25-04-2005, 12:39
[QUOTE=Eldrik Oeil de Lune]
The Lémure is obviously a Treekin, if you look at the base of this creature. The translation of the first page is correct. But bringing a word from roman mythology to the wood elves forests is however a strange work from the french translation...

[QUOTE] not really seeing je l'ai lu sur la foto et j'ai compmri que cetais presque la meme en anglais donc... i looked it up in the english oxford Dic. and it letraly says Shades of death/spirit of the dead/ghosts so the clostest thing to these definitions that i have heard of is a sprite (type of evil fairy or spirit) ....do you see my point

Jedi152
25-04-2005, 12:41
The waywatchers are shown in the bottom of the archer photo and look exactly the same as the current batch.Whereabouts? i can't see them. Can you highlight them on the pic?

Plus the female hero with the huge sword looks like a spear to me and the pose seems to suggest she's sitting on a beast possibly a dragon judging by the width of her legs.
The hero seems to standing on a rock, which suggests that the wide legs are just a part of the new 'dynamic pose' elves.

ps: Welcome to Portent! :D

irundaia
25-04-2005, 17:53
Has anyone seen the (almost) perfect wood elf mage yet????
she's like the best mage model I've ever seen (damn I wish the ******* High elves would have a model like that). I think I'm gonna covert it to a high elf as soon as it's in the ******* stores. Overall all the new wood elf models are the best I've ever seen but I don't know what to think of the bloody masks the godforsaken gladeguard wear though they still are the cooles (I think)

BullBuchanan
25-04-2005, 20:21
the high elves get new mages in a couple weeks and they're really kickass so i dont think you'll need to ;)

Il Magno
25-04-2005, 22:28
Am I the only one who thinks that they are orrible?
I can belive they are GW miniatures, never see something worse in 20 years spent on this hobby.

portentjunkie
25-04-2005, 22:53
Am I the only one who thinks that they are orrible?
I can belive they are GW miniatures, never see something worse in 20 years spent on this hobby.

I think you are confusing poor picture quality with poor miniature quality.

The simple fact is that while it's nice to have some idea of what things are going to look like, these pictures just don't even come close to giving you a real idea of what the models look like. You can't really see any detail, and in some you can't even make out what large sections of the model are supposed to be.

Still, that's a problem with the pictures, not the models. It's quite silly to say they are horrible models based on pictures that aren't as clear as most shots of bigfoot. :D

Lothlann
26-04-2005, 09:12
I think it's a better idea to comment after i've readed and watched all the changes done to the WE. ;)

Festus
26-04-2005, 09:14
Hi

Well it is interesting to note that there is almost double the amount of heads required on the sprues. I counted 8 (at least) head-like objects on a 4 elf sprue.
.
There are 11 (!) heads on the sprue.

Festus

Odin
26-04-2005, 09:16
hey guys just to clear up a few things, as far as i can see the foresters are scouts, and i may be mistaken but it appears to me some of you are mistaking them for waywatchers.

Er no, the scouts are plastic - made from the same kit as the Glade Guard. So the metal Forestiers must logically be the Waywatchers.


the high elves get new mages in a couple weeks and they're really kickass so i dont think you'll need to

Er, I've seen three of the new High Elf mages and they're nasty. Dunno which ones you're talking about.

Il Magno
26-04-2005, 19:14
OK ok let's hope it is a question of pictures, still the photo do not look so bad to me.
For sure you will be on the right side , when we will have better pictures :)

m1s1n
26-04-2005, 19:22
I think they look interesting, but will look much better painted. Right now they simply do not have any definition or character in their bare forms.

irundaia
26-04-2005, 19:55
here are the painted versions of the ******* high elf mages don't like them at all, maybe the one who isn't flying but the wood elf model is far better

http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99060210113&orignav=9

BullBuchanan
26-04-2005, 20:55
how the hell can people be bitching about the new HE mages!? They are by far some of the most intricate character models GW has ever produced! I for one cant wait. Look at the current HE mages, they are hideous, these new ones actually look like High Elves arrogant,powerful, and heroic all in one. I guess the people complaining are happy with the current "starving humans" variation of high elf mages.

Rabid Bunny 666
26-04-2005, 21:07
those ae awesome, i think my wallet tried to crawl away...

i like them, especially the dude with the womping sword...........sweet

Il Magno
26-04-2005, 22:55
I think that if the WE range could be of the same quality level of these new HE miniatur, I will thanks GW for the rest of my life :) :D .

Odin
26-04-2005, 23:13
how the hell can people be bitching about the new HE mages!?

Oh, quite easily (don't forget this is Portent). But they do look a bit naff to me. The first one has the face of an inbred redneck, the second one has a very silly chin, and the third one is standing on top of god knows what, and looks a bit like a bloke in drag.

twisted_mentat
27-04-2005, 05:12
I've seen the HE mages unpainted, and they look ALOT better. Its the paint jobs that were used...

They were painted with makeup that would make Jordan or Xtina look normal...

Galonthar
27-04-2005, 08:48
OMG,...

I know this is portent,...but don`t forget this a WE thread!!!!!!

and,... well..... the HE mage on foot is awesome!, but those flying thingies,...well.....they are kinda weird (or at least the things they are standing on)

Eldrik Oeil de Lune
27-04-2005, 12:49
To give you a true fact, "forestiers" is the french name of waywatchers (scouts are "éclaireurs").

Someone gave me some very good pictures of the new models. Here are two of them (they may be too detailed):

http://losboutinos.free.fr/Warhammer/h1.jpg

http://losboutinos.free.fr/Warhammer/h2.jpg

Sir_Glonojad
27-04-2005, 12:53
Well, they were described to me as "confrontationlike". I must agree with that comment...

Odin
27-04-2005, 13:36
The bloke with the big sword looks quality. Other geezer (waywatcher hero?) looks a bit odd, but maybe a paint job will clarify what's going on there.

Eldacar
27-04-2005, 13:42
That hero with sword is so mine. He would go well in an Asur Avelorn-themed army. He seems to slightly resemble Eltharion the Grim, IMO.

Sir_Glonojad
27-04-2005, 13:45
He? Well, the face looks masculine (though it is covered by hair), but isn't the body a bit too, well, narrow in the waist and wide in the breast?

Eldacar
27-04-2005, 13:49
I'll guess that it is a he. It seems like it. Although, there is still the possibility that the model will be a shemale-type thing. But I hope not.

Thalys
27-04-2005, 14:46
@ Eldrik Oeil de Lune

Well thanks you very much for the pics, they are awesome and really look like some confrontation miniatures.

Is the source of this pics having more ? Maybe of the Dryad Champ, because you really can't see anything in this blurry picture we've seen here. Or any other models not seen here or in a better quality...
Since this is the army i will surly start with I am very very curious about the models.

@ All

Does anybody know if there will be a new Dragon for the Welves ? Or are the twin sisters officially announced.... ?

Many Thanks in advance...
Thalys

Sylass
27-04-2005, 15:06
[...]Does anybody know if there will be a new Dragon for the Welves ? Or are the twin sisters officially announced.... ? [...]
I was told more than just once that the Dragon will stay the same, but there will be 2 new riders...a pair of twin sisters.

Not completely sure, but it was mentioned that one would stand on the neck/head of the dragon and the other sister would be positioned near the tail...I don't have the dragon miniature in reach to check if a position like that would actually work.

Il Magno
27-04-2005, 18:52
I confirm what Sylass said. I have heard the same rumors regarding the dragon and the sisters, also read on the italian GW forum site. :D
And another special character should be the "white stag" a sort of forest spirit.

Eldrik Oeil de Lune
27-04-2005, 19:19
After a little work with the pictures, here are all the links I can give you about WE:

sword hero (http://losboutinos.free.fr/Warhammer/h1.jpg)
bow hero (http://losboutinos.free.fr/Warhammer/h2.jpg)
waywatcher champion (http://losboutinos.free.fr/Warhammer/chforestier.jpg)
waywatchers (http://losboutinos.free.fr/Warhammer/forestiers.jpg)
plastic sprue (http://losboutinos.free.fr/Warhammer/plastique.jpg)
"lémures" (http://losboutinos.free.fr/Warhammer/lemures.jpg)
3 glade guards (http://losboutinos.free.fr/Warhammer/gs.jpg)

For the dryad champ, you could have this picture from the side:
dryad (http://losboutinos.free.fr/Warhammer/chdryade.jpg)

Il Magno
27-04-2005, 19:39
Thank you very much: i go to study the new pictures :D

Wraith
27-04-2005, 20:27
Sword Hero = Amazing

The sprite on the plastic sprue is cool too.

Thalys
28-04-2005, 07:59
Also from me very much thanks for those pics, they are really great. Now i can really imagine how the dryadd will look like...

Thalys

Jester
28-04-2005, 08:25
Yes, looks pretty cool - also the two sprites on the banner tip.

The only thing that is bothering me is that you obviousely have to use the cloaks on the minis - what with the big, gaping holes in their backs... Thus, the only difference between scouts and regular glade guard will be the formation and possibly the hoods vs. (half)-helmets.

Still great minis. And I'm looking forward to the glade riders.

Captain Morgan
28-04-2005, 09:15
Have to use the cloaks? Ever heard of Green struff?
The sword hero rocks. If I for some stupid reason decides not to be them I'll still buy it just for the joy of painting.

Flashheart
28-04-2005, 09:28
Excellent work Eldrik.
I think that the Dryad champion looks really promising. I am looking forward to see it painted.

The boyz
28-04-2005, 10:53
I cant wait for the new Wood Elves to come out. They look quality.

Avian
28-04-2005, 11:00
I'm more bothered about the fact that the quivers are moulded to the cloaks - that would make it harder to use them for other minis.

And I'm also not sure what the two things in the top right are. More torsoes?
It seems strange to get 7 of them for every 4 guys...

Etienne de Beaugard
28-04-2005, 13:44
And I'm also not sure what the two things in the top right are. More torsoes?
It seems strange to get 7 of them for every 4 guys...

I don't think they are torsos. The one on the far right seems wrong for it. Maybe they are some kind of mantles or hoods.

The only thing I'm a little agrieved at out of the minis shown is the lack of bare heads on the GG sprue. You have hooded heads for scouts and the half-mask heads for GG. I'm just not sold on the Phantom of the Opera look.

Anyways, everything else is great. For whatever reason, GW has outdone themselves with these minis. Huzzah!

Galonthar
28-04-2005, 16:06
DAMN!
great work!!!
those WE look awesome when zoomed in!

but with the GG / scout sprue, on the right hand side sprue, is it me, or are there chests WITH arms & bows????
allso I don`t really know id I like the idea of WE with helmets on (even if they are leather), it just doesn`t seem to fit in with what I imagine with WE

and I was looking forward to make some woodie conversions,... :(

spud
28-04-2005, 17:15
What's witth the treenstealers?

Sir_Glonojad
28-04-2005, 19:31
And I'm also not sure what the two things in the top right are. More torsoes?
It seems strange to get 7 of them for every 4 guys...
But it is true. You do get extra torsos, so that You can styilise the unit more (for example, two torsos are sculpted with leaf-like armour).
And at least three of the torsos are definitely feminine. :D

Galonthar
28-04-2005, 20:45
feminine?,.....
:D
great!!,.... so the woodies will become the first army which will be able to field women amids of the men in a unit,...
and not jst use them as the armies unique bitches (= Alarielle, the HE) or mages
YAY!

Drabant
28-04-2005, 21:52
I sure hope there are feminine heads as well. Sad thing there is no distinction between the legs of the sexes.

Sir Charles
28-04-2005, 21:59
I sure hope there are feminine heads as well. Sad thing there is no distinction between the legs of the sexes.
well they are elves, so they probably won't need either ;)

Leceaus
28-04-2005, 22:13
feminine?,.....
so the woodies will become the first army which will be able to field women amids of the men in a unit,...

Dark Elf warriors?

conanabass
29-04-2005, 07:06
The good thing about elves is if you went "skiing" (if you catch my drift ;) ) with them is it won't matter you can pretend its a chick.

Drabant
29-04-2005, 07:31
I'm afraid that says more about you, than it says about elves conanabass :p

Brandir
29-04-2005, 07:47
It may just be the quality of the photos, but the castings on the metal minis seems rather poor.

The plastic ones seem to have been rather rush as well - perhaps GW staff only got hold of the sprues literally minutes before the show?

Anyway, on the female side I have always seen the Elves (all flavours) as a race that male and females fight alongside each other as equals. So I want to see a good mix of male and female models for all the troop types.

Jedi152
29-04-2005, 08:51
but with the GG / scout sprue, on the right hand side sprue, is it me, or are there chests WITH arms & bows????
Yes, the torso and arms/bow are all in one piece. But you do get extra torsos, arms and bows (including what looks like an ornate composite bow) for customisation as well.

Llandorian
29-04-2005, 09:05
hmm..

you may get loose chests etc. but will there be enough of those to make an entire regiment?, I could be that those are noly for the command group, or just to make a few different models, to ensure that the unit can be fielded properly

Jester
29-04-2005, 10:35
Well, my count of chests only goes to five - three with arms attached and two lose ones. The two leafy-looking bits in the top right (above the lose chests) are - I assume - the "undercoats" featured also on two of the models shown here (http://losboutinos.free.fr/Warhammer/gs.jpg).

Oh, and one more thing: we are missing a left arm drawing an arrow - therefore, we will have to use either a champion with a sword or a standard bearer per 16 GG (or a musician, of course).

But on the plus side, we will have a great number of bits to use on character models or conversions. Hey, there even is a left-handed and a right- handed sword in the sprue, so we can build our own wardancer!

cheers, Ben

Neknoh
29-04-2005, 10:38
Oh MAN!!!!

That Swordhero will make a PERFECT Lord of Slaanesh with Chaos Runesword or Greatweapon on foot!

Just look at her... er.. him... or...

anyway, just look at it! Don't you think it has an evil Arthas look to it?

Goota get that elf!!!

Avian
29-04-2005, 10:45
Well, my count of chests only goes to five - three with arms attached and two lose ones. The two leafy-looking bits in the top right (above the lose chests) are - I assume - the "undercoats" featured also on two of the models shown here (http://losboutinos.free.fr/Warhammer/gs.jpg).
"Undercoats"???
If you mean what I think you mean, you'll see that those parts are moulded onto the torsos with arms...



Oh, and one more thing: we are missing a left arm drawing an arrow - therefore, we will have to use either a champion with a sword or a standard bearer per 16 GG (or a musician, of course).
Left half of the sprue, second row from the top, furthest to the left. There is your fourth right arm.

Jester
29-04-2005, 11:21
Hrardammit! I can't count myself, obviously. I was calculating with five glade guardians per sprue, not realising that there are only four pairs of legs included.

As for the undercoats - they are molded in with the three at the bottom right - however, not on the seperate ones on the top right...

Aeris Green Finger
29-04-2005, 11:22
thats the fourth one there still isn't a fourth.... another problem is that there are only four sets of legs and five torsos.... this might mean extra torso (a first for GW)

Aeris Green Finger
29-04-2005, 11:25
and the things in the top right hand corner seem to be over coats (things you can put on top of cloaks (it would look cool))

adreal
29-04-2005, 11:43
i love that dryad....i want that dryad now.....and the lord with great weapon is sweet. I love how the metal models look like there running through the undergrouth, looks sweet.

Avian
29-04-2005, 11:45
another problem is that there are only four sets of legs and five torsos.... this might mean extra torso (a first for GW)
No, another BONUS is that there are five torsoes for every four guys (so 4 extra in a 16-man box).
Incidentally the High Elf Archer box contains 4 extra legs :D

Sir_Glonojad
29-04-2005, 12:05
Except that there are seven torsos on the Glade Guard sprue - three with bows (bottom of the right frame) and four with no arms (top right of the right sprue, of which two topmost are in a leaf-like armour)

Xxcha
29-04-2005, 12:23
i believe the leaf like armour you talk about are actually small cloaks to go over the torsoes without arms or large cloaks

Aeris Green Finger
29-04-2005, 13:31
yeah probably

Sir_Glonojad
29-04-2005, 14:00
After viewing the sprue from a distance of 50cm, I am about 75% sure that they are torsos, not torso-addons.

Archangel
29-04-2005, 15:13
Hi,

Does any one have any pics of the new elf horses they could post? I've heard that they are much better\worse than the old 'Asterix' ones.
Any comments? :D

Kroq
02-05-2005, 10:59
In case it gets buried in the other post , the GREAT find by Leceaus


Look! Painted Archers and Treekins!
http://warhammer.org.uk/PhP/viewtopic.php?t=6084


Thanks a million Leceaus !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Neknoh
02-05-2005, 14:05
AHA!!! Now I know how to use the Swordhero in a Chaos army!!

Long have I been searching for something to base a Slaaneshi Dragon on, and now I realized, if I get that Sword Hero and puts him standing on Galrauchs upper head, it will look GREAT for a Chaos Lord of Slaanesh on a Chaos Dragon!!!

Perhaps I will have to smooth Galrauchs body a bit though, it will take a lot of Greenstuff to do that

Galonthar
02-05-2005, 16:35
OMG!!

at first sight I thought that hero was terribly "un-welfy", but now...

THAT THING RULES!!!

btw, isn`t the standard bearers standard (damn, that sounds weird...) a little too BIG to walk around with in a dense forest like loren?, looks cool though

Dr Death
02-05-2005, 16:59
I think ive fallen in love with that sword weilding hero :D ;) ..............problem is ive just this year started beastmen :eek:

Dr Death

Neknoh
02-05-2005, 17:29
Give him horns. give him wings and a 40 mm base

Malachi
03-05-2005, 03:37
I managed to quickly check out those pics at work last night but didn't save them (don't think my boss would appreciate it) and now the bandwidth has been exceeded. I don't know the conditions for photobucket, is it a 24 hour period before they'll come back? If anyone saved those pics I'd really appreciate them being posted or an active link being set tup.

Thalys
03-05-2005, 05:35
@Malachi

Well, if you left click on the picture it says bandwide exeeded, but right click and "save file as..." works for me very good. I just downloaded all pics that way...

Hope that helps...

MfG Thalys

Malachi
03-05-2005, 17:41
Great idea Thalys, thanks for the response, unfortunately it doesn't work for me, I just get the bandwidth exceeded .jpg when I save them, thanks anyway.

Thalys
04-05-2005, 05:08
@ Malachi

If you want i can send them to you via eMail. Just give me a PM with your eMail and they could be yours ;)

wyrmling_x
04-05-2005, 08:01
I just copied the URL directly and forced the browser to find the images. However, most of them are old pics, the only new ones being of the new Cold Ones (gag).

Jedi152
04-05-2005, 09:09
Well, if you left click on the picture it says bandwide exeeded, but right click and "save file as..." works for me very good. I just downloaded all pics that way...
Nope, afraid this doesn't work.

I just copied the URL directly and forced the browser to find the images.
Or this.

Can someone just post them at their photobucket account and link us to that? Apart from that my email is on my profile! :p

Thalys
04-05-2005, 11:16
Ok, i put them on my webspace. I don't know yet how fast it is, but since it has unlimited bandwidth it could get slow sometimes...

Here are the links:

WE1 (http://www.elfenmoor.de/warhammer/P1010058.jpg)
WE2 (http://www.elfenmoor.de/warhammer/P1010059.jpg)
WE3 (http://www.elfenmoor.de/warhammer/P1010060.jpg)
WE4 (http://www.elfenmoor.de/warhammer/P1010061.jpg)
CO1 (http://www.elfenmoor.de/warhammer/P1010057.jpg)

Enjoy them...

MfG Thalys

Galonthar
04-05-2005, 20:03
DAMN MATE!, those things rule!!!!

Drognan
04-05-2005, 23:07
They look really good. Guess I choose the right birthday gift. The Wood Elves army box.

adreal
05-05-2005, 01:01
the wood elf great weapon lord is one of the sweetest models ever, and the 'tree-kin' look pretty cool painted up, the only problem i have is mondo huge banner of the glade guard

HiveTrygon
05-05-2005, 03:05
The cover of the dex impressed me most. The models are brilliant yet the creepy quality and dark imagrey of the dex attracts me more. I'm torn to start them now. I love them a lot yet the plastic rat ogres and plague monks have me wanting to start a skaven army, oh what shall I do. :(

Brandir
05-05-2005, 07:35
Do we have a definite release date (UK)?

I assume that GW will release a big £150 limited edition box set featuring a 1,000 point army or so and the Codex, like Ogre Kingdoms.

Eldrik Oeil de Lune
05-05-2005, 08:04
You can see in GW france (http://fr.games-workshop.com/news/sorties.asp) that the army box will be released on 20 july. It may be a little earlier in England.
You have less than three months left to save your money ;) .

Odin
05-05-2005, 11:29
Quality - the army box is released at almost exactly the same time as I get a nice big pay rise. They couldn't have timed it better. Well, they could have released them four years ago I suppose! (My last ever moan about the delay in releasing Wood Elf Army Book - they're nearly here goddamn it!)

OK, so now we need to see a piccy of the boxed army - I don't suppose we know what's in it yet?

Got to be 2 units of Glade Guard, 1 of Dryads, 1 or 2 of Glade Riders. Forest Lord and special edition Battle Standard. Treeman or 3 Tree kin? Wardancers? Waywatchers? Answers on a postcard please....

Brandir
05-05-2005, 14:23
These £150 army boxes usually contain minis that won't be released as blisters for a few months. They sometimes also contain a 'limited edistion' type mini. But GW's use of the words limited or special tend to be forgotten after a while ...

HiveTrygon
05-05-2005, 14:45
These £150 army boxes usually contain minis that won't be released as blisters for a few months. They sometimes also contain a 'limited edistion' type mini. But GW's use of the words limited or special tend to be forgotten after a while ...

I'm guessing it will be a standard bearer. All the warhammer sets so far have been done that way. I am excited to see it's close, been waiting years and skaven almost got me but now I'll just wait a little longer. :D Have any preorders or anything of that nature poped up yet? It seems we are getting close. I read in the last WD it would be july, augest, and september for the USA.

Crube
05-05-2005, 19:26
Hi Folks - First post here :-)

Loving the piccys and discusions on the oh so lovely new Woodies.

Anyways - Just been on the phone to GW UK, who tell me they'll be accepting advance (pre) orders for the army box from 18 June, so should be released 4-6 weeks after that...

Not long now..........(relatively speaking)

75hastings69
05-05-2005, 19:42
I'm guessing it will be a standard bearer. All the warhammer sets so far have been done that way.


Ogre Kingdoms didn't get Standard Bearer in Army Box.

WE Army Box is released in France 20 July 05, which is a little before UK (mid August i am led to believe), in other exciting news.......

....... overpriced plastic acquarium plants are available to preorder from the UK Online Store!!!!!!!!!!!

Does anyone else think that the UK online store sucks? The French one has loads of preorder stuff on it, and what do we get plastic plants! hell they even have the new hobby preorder stuff on their site. GW UK online store doesn't even acknowledge that it is coming.

But I will be pre-ordering WE, just not from GW (cough-ripoff-cough) Mail Order.

HiveTrygon
06-05-2005, 01:29
Your right, I forgot about OK. I bought that army and sold it. I was not impressed with the models when in hand and the army book seemed drab to me. To much fat feasting for me or something. Anyhow, I regress, I hope we get some sorta champion. I'm not super happy with the last few limited edition models that are basicaly standard sets with some slight change. My tyranid set comming soon has a limited lictor that is not as good as the non limited. :rolleyes: I'd love to see some champion, like the spear sword weilding model. These are some of the best sculpts to date and we deserve it. I've been waiting along with others how long now, 3-4 years? It's been so long I can't remember.

On a side note, the US getting the release before the UK? Either we are or they botched the WD saying WE would be here in July. I'm hoping for once we get them first. :D

oatish
06-05-2005, 06:56
All I can say about the sword-hero is... I am playing Wood Elves for this miniature!!! My lord sculpts I want to marry finally.

oatish

Aeris Green Finger
06-05-2005, 08:28
Quality - the army box is released at almost exactly the same time as I get a nice big pay rise. They couldn't have timed it better. Well, they could have released them four years ago I suppose! (My last ever moan about the delay in releasing Wood Elf Army Book - they're nearly here goddamn it!)

OK, so now we need to see a piccy of the boxed army - I don't suppose we know what's in it yet?

Got to be 2 units of Glade Guard, 1 of Dryads, 1 or 2 of Glade Riders. Forest Lord and special edition Battle Standard. Treeman or 3 Tree kin? Wardancers? Waywatchers? Answers on a postcard please....
doubt we whil be seeing any treemen... by all accounts theyre going to be 459 pts so if we are looking at 1000 pts much more

Slyracoon
06-05-2005, 09:17
doubt we whil be seeing any treemen... by all accounts theyre going to be 459 pts so if we are looking at 1000 pts much more
Yeah, and you don't usually see the an army's large monster in the box. DE didn't have a Hydra, Lizardmen didn't have a Steggie, Tomb Kings and Orcs didn't get their respective giants. I think there will probably be some Tree-kin though, seeing as they're the one truly new unit.

Odin
06-05-2005, 10:19
Good point, so no treeman then.

Forest Lord
Battle Standard
2 Units of Glade Guard
1 Unit of Dryads
1/2 Units of Glade Riders
Eternal Guard?
Wardancers?
Warhawk Riders?
3 Tree-kin
Waywatchers


I know this isn't exactly a rumour, but a bit of speculation should keep us going until the next batch of info.

75hastings69
06-05-2005, 10:33
I'm looking at that list and guessing that it wont be far off, if you drop either eternal gaurd/warhawk riders from it.

Brandir
06-05-2005, 10:40
Do we think that the Warhawk riders will box set like the Bretonnian Pegasus Knights?

Three multipart plastic models for £20?

Avian
06-05-2005, 10:50
They're not a plastic set, we know that*, so my guess it that they'll be mainly metal, but use the plastic pegasus wings.


*the plastic sets are glade guard (archers/scouts), dryads and glade riders.

Brandir
06-05-2005, 11:14
They're not a plastic set, we know that*, so my guess it that they'll be mainly metal, but use the plastic pegasus wings.


*the plastic sets are glade guard (archers/scouts), dryads and glade riders.

Where do 'we know' from???

75hastings69
06-05-2005, 12:23
As avian said above there are only three plastic sets, and they are as listed by him. So ergo warpidgeons, oooops, warHAWK riders must be metal (or at least part meta).

Brandir
06-05-2005, 13:22
Hmmm - I'm afraid I don't automatically believe what I read on Forums!

No disrespect to Avian (who may be right, this could be Mr Kirby's username) intended, but has there been any 'official' announcements of what plastic GW intend to release for the Wood Elves?

Avian
06-05-2005, 13:25
Yeah, at the LA(?) Gamesday slideshow that presented the Woodsies. It listed four plastic boxes:
-Glade Guard
-Dryads
-Glade Riders
-Battalion (probably 2x GG, 1x D, 1x GR)


EDIT: http://www.mopreme.com/we1.jpg

Brandir
06-05-2005, 13:34
That'll do me Mr Avian. Thanks

Tastyfish
07-05-2005, 03:26
Anyone know if the great weapon wielding elf is the limited edition one? Was the same with the OK Tyrant - the first and most decent looking one was only in the army box.
Going to be a lot of NOOOOO!!!1!s if thats the case.

Zeb
07-05-2005, 06:57
All armies have recived a Limited Battle Standard, except for Ogres. I belive that there will be a BSB in the box not a limited Hero.
And I would prefer a BSB, not only because it's better, but it's also convetiblte.

Slyracoon
07-05-2005, 11:12
Anyone know if the great weapon wielding elf is the limited edition one? Was the same with the OK Tyrant - the first and most decent looking one was only in the army box.
Going to be a lot of NOOOOO!!!1!s if thats the case.
I really, really hope you're wrong about that. It's been a long time since I had £150 all in one place :D .

As for the content of the box, I'd say it's not likely we'll get Eternal Guard in there. I mean, they're the super-fantastic amazingly elite unit that GW are probably hoping to sell a lot of, and everyone knows buying them blister by blister is far more expensive. Plus they'd be the first unit of their class (Temple, Black and Phoenix Guard) to come in the box, and GW will probably throw in Warhawks just to shift some of them, seeing as they haven't sold well in the past.

Speedking
11-06-2005, 07:23
Just used babel fish to translate france's gw new releases. It looks like that the army box set is due out in france on the 20th of july priced at 170 euros with the rest of the sets starting to come out from the 3rd of august

Jericho
11-06-2005, 10:21
Definitely no Eternal Guard in the big box. 32 Glade Guard, 8 Glade Riders, 12 Dryads, Noble, Spellsinger, Battle Standard, 6 Wardancers, 3 Warhawk Riders. And the book of course.

Slyracoon
11-06-2005, 14:18
Hey, I was right about the Warhawk riders! I bet they are just putting them in to get them off the shelves, Warhawk riders have never sold that well and the new rules don't sound as if they're going to change that. I'm a bit disappointed with the box actually, it just doesn't sound as substantial as some of the others (i.e. Ogre Kingdoms).

Brandir
11-06-2005, 14:23
Look at the Pegasus Knights for the Bretonnian army. Superb minis, pants rules. Warhawk riders are similar. Never mind.

Crube
11-06-2005, 15:06
Just used babel fish to translate france's gw new releases. It looks like that the army box set is due out in france on the 20th of july priced at 170 euros with the rest of the sets starting to come out from the 3rd of august

The details of the UK releases can be found here

...hope that worked... :)

Zeb
11-06-2005, 15:40
I do think that there is a place in the army for warhawkriders (But I will convet my own as it looks now), but with sniperbows, sprites and hit and run attacks of the Warhawk riders, there won't be many wizards in the opposing army left by turn three...

Lord_Sanguinius
17-06-2005, 04:03
Those are some real good pictures and it makes waiting for the army book and miniatures even harder.

Galonthar
17-06-2005, 08:51
I do think that there is a place in the army for warhawkriders (But I will convet my own as it looks now), but with sniperbows, sprites and hit and run attacks of the Warhawk riders, there won't be many wizards in the opposing army left by turn three...

huh?..... have I missed something?.... "sniperbows"?.... "sprites for WARHAWKS" :wtf: ...

I knew about that it & run attack ... and that will mean quite a lot of easy kills,.. (time to die archers!! :evilgrin: )

Neknoh
17-06-2005, 09:11
I don't see why the debate on what the Army Deal will hold has started again!

Here (http://www.utopialund.se/), you can find a picture of the Army Deal, just scroll down.

It is quite clearly shown what you get:

The Army Book

Lord with Greatweapon
Most shown Female Mage
(Probably Limited Edition) Battle Standard Bearer

32 Glade Guard
16 Dryads
8 Glade Riders
6 Wardancers
3 Warhawk Riders

There

Brandir
17-06-2005, 09:14
Don't forget to advance order your Wood Elf Army Set tomorrow (Sat 17 June 2005). Apparently it will only be available for a short time (well, until they have sold all the limited edition BSBs).

£130 UK with a release date of Saturday 30 July 2005 - four weeks before the Army Book will be released.

karneambara
17-06-2005, 10:55
i don't really want to buy the army box (i have always regretted buying the high elf one) but i may self combust if i have to wait that long to get my hands on the army book...

also for all you non-UK people £130 converts to 195.416 EUR as of 17/6/05
So thats how much it costs for us Irish :-)

Zeb
17-06-2005, 13:28
huh?..... have I missed something?.... "sniperbows"?.... "sprites for WARHAWKS" :wtf: ...

I knew about that it & run attack ... and that will mean quite a lot of easy kills,.. (time to die
archers!! :evilgrin: )

There is one magic bow that lets you ignore target restrictions, another sprite (with range 18" IIRC) that also ignores target restrictions, and then the "Hit and Run" attacks with warhawks.

So lets try it out, Highborn shoots of with the bow, hits 2+, wounds 4+, ca. 45% to wound a T3 mage/wizard etc. Sprite hits 3+, wounds 3+ (IIRC, S4) about 45% of wounding so that same mage should be dead by turn two. The warhawkks gose for another mage/wizard etc. 3 attacks each= 6 attacks, they should be able to get a mage/wizard killed on a turn, they might lose, but enemy cant persue...
That's two mages/wizards down in the first two rounds, now you are more or less bound to have magic superiority... Or at least be leader on points... ;)

EDIT: Guess what!!!!! LOL!

Galonthar
17-06-2005, 13:31
There is one magic bow that lets you ignore target restrictions, another sprite (with range 18" IIRC) that also ignores target restrictions, and then the "Hit and Run" attacks with warhawks.

So lets try it out, Highborn shoots of with the bow, hits 2+, wounds 4+, ca 75% to wound a T3 mage/wizard etc. Sprite hits 3+, wounds 3+ (IIRC, S4) about 45% of wounding so that same mage should be dead by turn two. The warhawkks gose for another mage/wizard etc. 3 attacks each= 6 attacks, they should be able to get a mage/wizard killed on a turn, they might lose, but enemy cant persue...
That's two mages/wizards down in the first two rounds, now you are more or less bound to have magic superiority... Or at least be leader on points... ;)

this means a lord (or highborn... :eyebrows: ) can ride a 1 wound warhawk?.....
or are you confused with great eagles?

Avian
17-06-2005, 13:34
So lets try it out, Highborn shoots of with the bow, hits 2+, wounds 4+, ca 75% to wound a T3 mage/wizard etc.
Where exactly did you learn maths, my friend? :D

warsmith
17-06-2005, 13:41
warhawkks have 3 attack? only one for elves one for hawks?

Zeb
17-06-2005, 13:44
Crap!!!! I'm a paleolimnologist.... That's why... LOL! I have worked as a math teacher though, wonder how screwed up those kids got...?

Galonthar, leave him on foot, snipe away, and you don't need him in close combat... He is the sniper... Another character could use the sprite. And then you have the warhawks to do their own mage hunting... Right?

EDIT: I thought they had three as terradons, but I might be wrong...

Odin
17-06-2005, 13:45
So lets try it out, Highborn shoots of with the bow, hits 2+, wounds 4+, ca 75% to wound a T3 mage/wizard etc. Sprite hits 3+, wounds 3+ (IIRC, S4) about 45% of wounding so that same mage should be dead by turn two. The warhawkks gose for another mage/wizard etc. 3 attacks each= 6 attacks, they should be able to get a mage/wizard killed on a turn, they might lose, but enemy cant persue...

42% chance with Highborn's bow, not 75%. However, if you are able to combine the Hunter's Talon with Hagbane Arrows, you could have a good chance (about 20% of taking the wizard out with one hit.

You're right with the Spite though.

I think the warhawks have 2 attacks per model (one for the rider, one for the warhawk). Still, that's more than enough to ruin a wizard's day.

Zeb
17-06-2005, 13:54
Is 20% a good chance???? or should I save up on point and get other stuff?

Odin
17-06-2005, 14:04
Good question. I would say 42% chance of wounding and 21% chance of killing outright is pretty good, but as you said it's when you use it in combination with other things like the Spite or warhawks that it really becomes effective. And my opponent's necromancers are the bane of my life, so.

If my calculations are correct, 3 turns of shooting should give you a 50% chance of killing outright (with a failed T test), and even if they don't fail the T test you've got a superb chance of taking out with normal wounds anyway.

The other tempting option for Highborn is Bow of Loren with Arcane Bodkins (if you are allowed to comine these two). 4 shots which ignore armour should give those enemy knights something to think about.

koven_lexter
17-06-2005, 14:18
42% chance with Highborn's bow, not 75%. However, if you are able to combine the Hunter's Talon with Hagbane Arrows, you could have a good chance (about 20% of taking the wizard out with one hit.
The Hagbane Arrows are rumoured to be that any model hit has to take a Toughness, and they die with no (armour) saves allowed if they fail that toughness test. We seem to be talking about a T 3 wizard with no armour or wards, and there's a 50% chance of failing a Toughness test if you have T 3. So if the WE lord is hitting on 2+ when using the sniper bow then there's 42% chance of killing the mage with a single shot when also using the Hagbane Arrows.

Basically a Toughness test is the same as a to wound roll against Str 3 (except against very high or very low T), so the probability of killing an unarmoured model with one shot from the sniper bow and the Hagbane Arrows is the same as the probability of wounding that same model with one shot from the sniper bow without the Hagbane Arrows.

This is of course assuming the above interpretation of the Hagbane rules are correct, which is uncertain since they're just rumoured rules at the moment.

Odin
17-06-2005, 15:26
The Hagbane Arrows are rumoured to be that any model hit has to take a Toughness, and they die with no (armour) saves allowed if they fail that toughness test.

I think I saw somewhere else that you had to wound a model before they have to take a T test. This seemed more likely to me for 35 points and ignoring armour and ward saves. If you only have to hit them to make them take a T test I'm wondering what the catch is - seems far too good, especially combined with the Hunter's Talon.

koven_lexter
17-06-2005, 15:39
I think I saw somewhere else that you had to wound a model before they have to take a T test. This seemed more likely to me for 35 points and ignoring armour and ward saves. If you only have to hit them to make them take a T test I'm wondering what the catch is - seems far too good, especially combined with the Hunter's Talon.
I've seen a number of different statements of the rules for the Hagbane Arrows, including a toughness test after a successful hit (as I said above), a toughness test after a sucessful wound but before armour saves (which is what you said), and also uncertainty as to whether they ignore ward saves after the failed toughness test (I personally think it is unlikely that they will bypass ward saves). I've even seen someone conclude that they ignore all saves all the times and in addition have the toughness test thing for a possible instant kill :eek: I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Edit - I was referring to the interpretation given by Tancred II von Quenelles here (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3484&page=8&pp=10) (in post #75).

warsmith
17-06-2005, 15:47
the possible outcome is to hit, to wound, and emery take A.sv and W.sv... and if failed, T test, if T test fail..... killed for no save........i asked some people once the forum come....
so. that item is rubbish...........
some related weapon is hellfire sword for chaos(75 pts)
u hit and wound and emery fail save.... then D6 wound with no save..........

just my 2 cent

Odin
17-06-2005, 16:13
the possible outcome is to hit, to wound, and emery take A.sv and W.sv... and if failed, T test, if T test fail..... killed for no save........i asked some people once the forum come....
so. that item is rubbish...........


Sounds reasonable. I wouldn't say it's rubbish though, sounds good if used well. Perhaps a Higborn on a Great Eagle with Hagbane Arrows and the Bow of Loren - get into position where you can target a character on his own, then unleash 4 of those shots at him. Nasty. Still, I think the Bow of Loren+Arcane Bodkins combo looks best, especially against heavy cavalry.

Edit: By the way, I've tried to create a Wood Elf army based on what we know already (or think we know). It's in the Army List section if anyone wants to have a look and give me your feedback. Cheers.

warsmith
17-06-2005, 16:24
yes, i open a topic too, but moved by someone to warhammer tractic

warsmith
17-06-2005, 16:27
alter + BoL + no a.save is the best i think, also, with great weapon, 5 attack with St 6 is also helpful

Zeb
17-06-2005, 16:39
But it could be worth it to have BoL and Hagbane Arrows when facing a greater deamon, since it's magical attacks it will by pass wardsaves. And a T test even with T6 could be very frustrating... espesially when the model is over 350pts...

Brandir
17-06-2005, 16:44
Now, in the previous edition of the Wood Elf Army Book I am pretty certain that one could not use magic arrows with a magic bow. I would think the same rule would be true for this new edition.

warsmith
18-06-2005, 02:32
But it could be worth it to have BoL and Hagbane Arrows when facing a greater deamon, since it's magical attacks it will by pass wardsaves. And a T test even with T6 could be very frustrating... espesially when the model is over 350pts...

that's why i said it is rubbish

warsmith
18-06-2005, 02:33
Now, in the previous edition of the Wood Elf Army Book I am pretty certain that one could not use magic arrows with a magic bow. I would think the same rule would be true for this new edition.

nono, someone tell me it do works together

the moof
24-06-2005, 09:54
hiya

been looking at the plastic sprue and have come across something rather puzzeling. on the left side, top right hand corner, next to the scout heads, their seems to be something rather interestingg. from the quality of the picture i have, it appears to have big, foxlike ears, tiny foxlike eyes, and, whaddya know, a long, and, you guessed it, foxlike snout. is it just me or does it seem that there's gonna be a fox head amongst the scouts???

also, what are the things left of the banner on the left sprue. clockwise from the banner it goes: banner, arm to hold banner, ?, ?, ?, ?, etc. can someone shed some light for me?

thanx,
*the moof*

ghost21
25-06-2005, 21:10
can somone answer me a quick q about the glade guard sprues are they just bows or do they come with spears n shields too?

Avian
25-06-2005, 21:30
Just bows. The unit is really Archers / Scouts with a new name. They have nothing in common with the old Glade Guard.

Apparently the only way to get people to use Glade Guard was to drop the unit entirely and give the name to another unit.


EDIT: Okay, okay, so the only way to get most people to use Glade Guard was to drop the unit entirely and give the name to another unit.
Happy now? :p

Brandir
25-06-2005, 22:47
But I am glad they kept the term "Glade Guard' - it is much better than boring 'Archers'.

Was I the only Wood Elf player to use units of Glade Guard? I always fielded a unit of 21 with light armour, shield, spears, leader, musician and banner.

malisteen
25-06-2005, 22:55
Many wood elf players used glade guard, as they were the only unit in the army capable of carrying around a rank bonus. Many players underrated them, but that rank bonus could turn a promising charge from a unit of dryads into a sure thing.

But I'm not too dissapointed to see them go (they'll be missed less then charriots), thanks to the arrival of Eternal Guard. Only two points more/model, but far more impressive, both in models and in rules.

portentjunkie
26-06-2005, 08:30
Was I the only Wood Elf player to use units of Glade Guard?

Nope, I've seen lots of wood elf lists with a unit of glade gaurd.

Of course, it's funny how that unit so often seems to come with a speech about how great the player is for including a unit of rank and file for you to play with while they points deny, shoot, and magic you to death. :D

risK
26-06-2005, 12:29
hiya

been looking at the plastic sprue and have come across something rather puzzeling. on the left side, top right hand corner, next to the scout heads, their seems to be something rather interestingg. from the quality of the picture i have, it appears to have big, foxlike ears, tiny foxlike eyes, and, whaddya know, a long, and, you guessed it, foxlike snout. is it just me or does it seem that there's gonna be a fox head amongst the scouts???

also, what are the things left of the banner on the left sprue. clockwise from the banner it goes: banner, arm to hold banner, ?, ?, ?, ?, etc. can someone shed some light for me?

thanx,
*the moof*

I noticed that Foxheadthingie as well. It could be a foxhead, to go with a fur (maybe top right, second sprue half) or be a simple pouch (with two ends being attached to a belt). Those ???? are ends for the hooded heads. Googletails.

Galonthar
26-06-2005, 17:18
I heard somewhere that the woodies would be suppied with lots of extra bitz, like sprites etc. ... maybe this foxhead thingy is one of those things too