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cm2008
01-10-2008, 19:50
Bloodcrushers and seekers do they benifit from herald abilities, Hatred and ASF? and if so would it be just the riders or the mount as well?

theunwantedbeing
01-10-2008, 19:58
Khornate Herald, its rather clear in the rules for the locus of Khorne.(Daemons of Chaos, page 36)
Hatred applies to the whole model.(page 79, BRB)

Slaaneshi Herald, its again clear in the rules for the locus of Slaanesh.(Daemon of Chaos, page 39)
ASF does not apply to the whole model.

Aelyn
01-10-2008, 20:41
Khornate Herald, its rather clear in the rules for the locus of Khorne.(Daemons of Chaos, page 36)
Hatred applies to the whole model.(page 79, BRB)

Slaaneshi Herald, its again clear in the rules for the locus of Slaanesh.(Daemon of Chaos, page 39)
ASF does not apply to the whole model.
Just to clarify, since this could be interpreted wrongly:

Both Bloodcrushers and Seekers count as the relevant Daemonic type riding the appropriate mount. Both therefore gain the Heraldic bonus.

However, only psychological benefits are passed from rider to mount. Therefore, the Juggernauts gain the benefits of the riders' Hatred, but the Steeds do not gain the benefit of the riders' Always Strikes First.

SolarHammer
01-10-2008, 20:48
Just to clarify, since this could be interpreted wrongly:

Both Bloodcrushers and Seekers count as the relevant Daemonic type riding the appropriate mount. Both therefore gain the Heraldic bonus.

However, only psychological benefits are passed from rider to mount. Therefore, the Juggernauts gain the benefits of the riders' Hatred, but the Steeds do not gain the benefit of the riders' Always Strikes First.

Just to further clarify, the Bloodletter on top of the Juggernaut and the Daemonette on top of the Steed of Slaanesh count as the relevant Daemon type (Bloodletter and Daemonette strangely enough).

The Locus ability affects these troops, with Hatred affecting the Juggernaut, and ASF not affecting the Steed as described above.

cm2008
02-10-2008, 16:41
that's mainly what I was looking for if the crushers and seekers were affected by the locus thks.