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Drow__Warrior
09-10-2008, 20:41
So I decided to take a crack at making some newer looking Magic the Gathering based lore cards. I think they came out pretty good. Let me know if you have any suggestions.

Also, If I get enough of a demand, I'll consider making the other lores up.

Aurellis
09-10-2008, 21:03
These look fantastic! You should try doing the Dark Elves Dark Magic lore

Malorian
09-10-2008, 21:12
Hell make them all! Those look great : )

DoktorZinieztro
09-10-2008, 21:17
Ow, ow, ow... WOW!

Gimme! All of themz! All I begz ya!

Xaskus
09-10-2008, 22:42
Kickass, amazing work. Make more please.

Kronos
09-10-2008, 22:45
Always loved MTG art work :), and these look great, very good choices for representations.

Drow__Warrior
10-10-2008, 01:58
Second Installment. Let me know what you think. Also, if you have any art that you'd like to see worked in, or have something in mind for a particular spell, let me know.

MrBigMr
10-10-2008, 02:43
Like a total bastard I swoop in by riding your thunder and bring Lore of Slaanesh.

Curufew
10-10-2008, 03:18
They look awesome

Dicey
10-10-2008, 03:20
GW needs to give you a job. these are ace, take note GW

Rolo Ramone
10-10-2008, 03:42
Thatīs a great job! Could you make the lore of life?

Nesbet
10-10-2008, 04:44
WOW!
Amazing stuff! Hell yeah, I want them all!!

A pair of suggestions...
- Instead of the middle box with "sorcery - magic missile" or "Sorcery - Shadow - magic missile", you should write "CAST ON 5+, MAGIC MISSILE" or "CAST ON 8+, REMAINS IN PLAY" and so on!
Ooops! I've recently noticed that you have done this with http://magic.falseblue.com, I thought you worked it with photoshop
- I was going to say that you could try different colours for the cards (magic only has 5 colors, gold, artifacts and lands... but, this is a web page!

Anyways, VERY NICE WORK.

Maybe I'll try with photoshop! Very good idea Drow_Warrior!!!

Drow__Warrior
10-10-2008, 05:00
Hey all! Thx for the input. Yea, I can't get rid of the Sorcery ther, so Im just gonna use that lline to denote the lore and ither RIP, or MM.

So we got cast at the top
spell # in upper right

I'd photoshop them, but I think it would take way longer.

Aaanyway, here's the Lore of Death. Keep givin me some input, and I'll keep pumpin them out.

DoktorZinieztro
10-10-2008, 05:13
Aha, hahha, hahahaha! Now my DE spell lists are covered!

I will try to work on some "flavour text" to contribute a little, and when I have time, will try to tackle GUT MAGIC!

Sergeant Uriel Ventris
10-10-2008, 05:14
Hopefully this one will work. I could only find one piece of artwork that did it for me, and it's very late and I'm tired, but here goes...

http://magic.falseblue.com/output/1223615576.png

What do you think?

Edit: Why the heck can't I get the pic to display? I'm going to give this Waaagh! magic another run in the AM.

Ward.
10-10-2008, 05:21
These are down right awesome, somebody should get a photoshop template going...

Also anyone got any suggestions for some skitterleap artwork?

DoktorZinieztro
10-10-2008, 05:48
On it...

Well, it's Corel photopaint, actually... but it will do, I think. See you Saturday morning (for you)/late Friday night (fer me).

Re Suggestions... There was a lot of ratty art in Magic. Maybe some of it will do. If not, I'll see what I can photo and manipulate from my trusty BL tomes and the AB: Skaven. There's this piece by Blanche that has a section that might look like it just popped in perfectly! :p

Cheers, one and all!

Bob the Butcher
10-10-2008, 06:37
Here is a link to some other cards.
http://www.warhammer.baronwolf.com/magic%20cards.php

Drow__Warrior
10-10-2008, 06:42
There's ALOT of awsome art for Skaven from MTG. I was going through and I basically picked out the entire lore while I was doing others. I'll get there within the next few days.

I'm gonna Concentrate on the 8 main lores first, then If you guys want I'll hit up the army specific ones. Without further BSing.. heres Heavens:

bork da basher
10-10-2008, 06:46
your doing a really good job here, these are really useful.

Ward.
10-10-2008, 08:32
There's ALOT of awsome art for Skaven from MTG. I was going through and I basically picked out the entire lore while I was doing others. I'll get there within the next few days.

I'm gonna Concentrate on the 8 main lores first, then If you guys want I'll hit up the army specific ones. Without further BSing.. heres Heavens:

Honestly I couldn't find all that much, so long as Ink eyes servant of the oni is used for something like death frenzy I'll be happy anyway.

Something relevant: You can put your name on the cards in the section marked "name" under power level and health, if you where looking to get credit for your work that is.

MrBigMr
10-10-2008, 09:34
Did someone say they wanted blank Magic card templates, 'cuz that's what I heard?
Here:
http://www.geocities.com/castlemanj/cards.jpg
That's what I used for the Slaanesh cards.

RatGod2
10-10-2008, 11:22
Can you post the link where i can download these awsome cards mate! They look really great!

him_15
10-10-2008, 12:37
I love you Drow__Warrior.

Nesbet
10-10-2008, 12:59
Very nice work Drow__Warrior!

I was thinking... maybe (if you can and have time) you could change the cards overall color (after done) and then copy/paste the boxes with text. So you can afford all different colors for Slaanesh (purple), a different texture black (to have not the same back color with death and shadows), a more light blue for tzeentch, more bright green for little waghh and so on.

Antoher thing that could be interesting, would be a WHF back card, to print the other side of the WHF magic cards and paste onto mtg cards :P

Also, have you seen the Warcry cards? Maybe something from these can help.

Keep up the good job!!

Soul of Iron
10-10-2008, 13:08
Bad ass bro!

Those look fantastic!

Hellebore
10-10-2008, 13:59
How legal are these? Is the MtG art available for use free of charge (ie public domain?) if so great, if not then I won't help.

It would be easy to make up single sheets with double sided imagery, assuming the art etc is legally being used.

Hellebore

Drow__Warrior
10-10-2008, 14:01
Meh, it's not like were reselling the images. I see no harm. Also, I'm heading home for the weekend, so I may or may not be able to finish up the lores of life and light this weekend.

Malorian
10-10-2008, 15:19
These are great Drow keep it up : )

So how do people use these? Print them off and get them laminated? Or just print them off on thick paper?

Crispian25
10-10-2008, 15:42
Print on card stock would probably work. If possible, could these go up at a central site once you have completed them? They are incredibly good.

DoktorZinieztro
11-10-2008, 02:16
These are great Drow keep it up : )

So how do people use these? Print them off and get them laminated? Or just print them off on thick paper?

Mine, already are OVERSIZED (for a typical gaming card, anyways... but not "Orb of Chaos" sized, mind you) and on PLASTICARD.

Lamination might come next... but I will experiment with mate barnish to see how it all comes out.

him_15
11-10-2008, 05:04
BTW, Drow_Warrior please please make the Vampire lore! There must be lot of options to make it amazing (I used to be MTG player)

King Vyper
11-10-2008, 07:19
Great Page, I miss the old days when you had cards for everything. I screwed around and came up with this

OldMaster
11-10-2008, 07:55
Nice work, mind if I generate the new WoC lores?

Drow__Warrior
11-10-2008, 08:50
I'm going to take a break before I finish the other two lores. Vampire Lore is in high demand from my buddies as well as you guys here online. Expect to see it sometime today.

MrBigMr
11-10-2008, 13:09
Don't worry Drow, I can do the Daemon Lores. As a matter of fact, here's Lore of Tzeentch:

Nighthawke
11-10-2008, 13:12
great work guys am loveing the cards
cant wait for the orc and goblin ones ;)

him_15
11-10-2008, 13:28
MRBigMr, what sort of card game are you using for? I am sure it's not MTG. nice work though, But it would like to see all card being made from MTG for a similar style.
BTW, I hope that by the time Drow_Warrior have finished covering all the lores, then gather everything together as a pack to be downloadable.

MrBigMr
11-10-2008, 13:35
Sonny, those are Magic card. Magic cards when Magic was a game. Back in the good ol' days. I refuce to acknowledge any other style. Kids and games these days... *grumble grumble grumble*

I posted the template I'm using in the second post on this page. The images in the cards are from here and there, art that I've happened to pick on my hard drive along they years. There's always use for good art.

Nighthawke
11-10-2008, 13:35
im sure the ones MRBigmr are using are magic, look like the older ones i have

Nesbet
11-10-2008, 13:52
100% agree with you MrBigmr, those old days... Loved Fallen Empires, Ice Age and so...
then it was a game, now its all about elves, pigmies and cuttie folks T_T
Not to mention the japanese $h!t

Iīm also waiting for the WoC lores Drow!! ;) Keep up the good work

Cromenon
11-10-2008, 15:04
Great initiative, Drow__Warrior!! Nice work you too, MrBigMr ;)

I am currently working on the Lore of the Vampires, here's what I got so far...

Can't find any suitable image for Wind of Undeath yet. But I'll make it :cool:

Edit: Before the Name of the Spell, I put its number. I think it can be handy when you roll for them and don't remember what number are they.

Abduction
11-10-2008, 15:32
The cards look awsome! Can't wait for High Magic.

MrBigMr
11-10-2008, 15:38
My Magic carreer stretched from Ice Age to Nemesis. Now I've sold most of my cards away. Still have a folder filled with rares, uncommons and useful commons stashed away. Anyone interested?

Oh, and got Lore of Nurgle done.

MrBigMr
11-10-2008, 16:26
I did cards for Siren Song, Spell Breaker and Spell Destroyer, which are all one use, but can be taken multible times. Easy to keep tabs on you gifts. I'm thinking if I should make some Dwarf runes as well.

Drow__Warrior
11-10-2008, 16:34
I'll be happy to put them all together and put them somewhere. I'm not as handy w/ computers as you may think though, so someone needs to tell me the best way to go about doing it. Thx for all the input. Nice job too MrBig.

So the Lore order for me is lookin like, VC, Life, Light

What you guys want next?

hardygun
11-10-2008, 17:52
All of these are exceptional work! I really like what folks have done with the various cards made up in this thread!

him_15
11-10-2008, 18:20
I'll be happy to put them all together and put them somewhere. I'm not as handy w/ computers as you may think though, so someone needs to tell me the best way to go about doing it. Thx for all the input. Nice job too MrBig.

So the Lore order for me is lookin like, VC, Life, Light

What you guys want next?

there are always help from people when you come up with such a great idea.
You can simply zip them as a pack and name it like Drow_Warrior wahammer lore cards and upload it somewhere on the net.
I would suggest go for a more popular and easy made lore, high and dark magic come to mind.

him_15
11-10-2008, 19:09
Looks outstanding overall, though some improvement would be good, the IoN art doesn't really fit the frame, and there might probably be better pic for the dance and gaze. I love the undeath wind and horde though. Keep up the good work,

Skywave
11-10-2008, 19:47
Look awesome overall, very nice!

Hope you do TK incantation too sometime :D

Cromenon
11-10-2008, 20:35
Hey, those are a nice Lore of the Vampire cards, Drow__Warrior. Now I don't have to bother looking for a "Wind of Undeath" image!

Rodman49
12-10-2008, 06:02
Keep up the great work man, I'm so gonna get these printed off.

innerwolf
12-10-2008, 07:56
Great initiative, Drow__Warrior!! Nice work you too, MrBigMr ;)

I am currently working on the Lore of the Vampires, here's what I got so far...

Can't find any suitable image for Wind of Undeath yet. But I'll make it :cool:

Edit: Before the Name of the Spell, I put its number. I think it can be handy when you roll for them and don't remember what number are they.



I really love your Danse Macabre picture. It's medieval weirdness at it's best!

TK421
12-10-2008, 16:01
Oh man those look awesome. What I wouldn't give for a decent printer :cries:

MEanBOb12
14-10-2008, 22:23
Hey, anymore coming? I'm watching this thread.

Drow__Warrior
14-10-2008, 23:26
Workin on the last 2 lores now. STand by

Ginger_Dwarf
15-10-2008, 03:12
They look great! once i find a printer they'll be getting used to do my random draw for my blue scribes!

him_15
15-10-2008, 04:25
I have problem painting them, as I want them to be exact size of the original MTG card, and place them on top of the actual card inside the pocket, but the size of this picture is far larger, any way to figure this out? (Drow_Warrior, the flaming sword form he lore of fire has different size than the others, do you mind re-doing it=p ?)

Drow__Warrior
15-10-2008, 06:12
Yes, I'm actually in the process of redoing them and getting them sized correctly to print out on a standard MTG card.

Once I have them finished I'll post them back up. Unfortunately the more I do the more I find I want to fix. Bear with me, they should be done within the next day or so.

Malorian
15-10-2008, 22:03
It opens for me and looks great : )

him_15
16-10-2008, 09:33
Great stuff! Could you post the rest please?

suurimonster
24-10-2008, 06:39
Hoping that we will still see these soon...please ;).

wamphyri101
24-10-2008, 09:01
Have to say these are fantastic. Really miss having the old magic cards and Can i make 2 requests?

First is can you please please please do some high magic cards as i would love to have some for my local torniment on the 15th of november (already going to make some of the normal lores you have done so far)

And the second is how about some dispel and power dice ones, even a dispel scroll 1!#

would make the magic phase soo much more fun and since i always loose count of my power dice ina busy game these would be perfect

This thread should also get stickied as what you have done is brilliant

Grimor Da Warchife
24-10-2008, 09:15
they are great indeed keep em coming pleas

daemonkin
24-10-2008, 09:29
Drow__Warrior - You the MAN!!

Love the vampire cards. Great work. I think the entire community will benefit from these. Would it be ok if I take them and make them all downloadable on my website?

D.

him_15
24-10-2008, 09:37
We all want it! So plz post all of 'em =p
Great work anything, thought you've stopped the work already

Panzerkanzler
24-10-2008, 12:41
Awesome cards! It's more enjoyable to look up spells on the cards than looking at a boring page in the book. But you seem to have misspelled "missile" as "missle".

szlachcic
24-10-2008, 15:15
These are all amazing! Could you please do the Dark Magic Lore if you get a chance. Thanks.

Sentinel75
24-10-2008, 18:50
Thanks for all the great work! I hope you can condense all of these into a zip file! Thanks again!

W0lf
24-10-2008, 19:51
They are amzingly good.

Anyway didnt GW do spell cards for 6th edition hordes? Im pretty sure they did on the site.
That said they wernt as good as these and were only chaos AFAIK.

Aflo
24-10-2008, 20:21
Superb - these are fantastic :)

TheRaven476
24-10-2008, 20:22
Just want to say that this is one of the coolest ideas i've ever seen. I can't wait for the high magic lore, especially flames of the pheonix.

him_15
25-10-2008, 04:10
Drow_warrior, have you re-doen the vampire lore? If so , could you please post 'em up as I have got a game coming on and I am planning to use your lore card for extra fun=p

Nesbet
25-10-2008, 04:39
awesome as always drow_warrior!

Only an advice... after doing the cards, save them in PNG format, not .jpg
as you can see there is a lot "blurring" where the text was introduced. When you save the files as .png the images will look wonderful
Look at my signature:
saved as jpg: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3181/2970231753_d8f37b743b_o.jpg
and as png:http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3267/2852433472_1e2ee22cb5_o.png
In bright pictures, like the cards, would be much more the contrast between the 2 formats

Hope it helps.

And also, I hope ther will be more lores!! :D

PS: I loved the way you had redone the cards. SOOOO much better now... ;)
Save you work as PNG after finishing and they would be PERFECT!

him_15
25-10-2008, 04:58
wow, png does look much better, now we can expect some even better cards

Drow__Warrior
25-10-2008, 05:49
Actually yes, I've already re-done the vampire lore. I have it on my other computer and I can post it up monday for you.

I'll try saving them in the other format as well.

PANZERBUNNY
25-10-2008, 06:00
no greenskin love...*pout*

suurimonster
25-10-2008, 15:15
Save you work as PNG after finishing and they would be PERFECT!

I think the jpgs already look very sharp, and DW has already checked them in print format, which is really the whole point...

DW - thanks again, looking forward to the rest.

Skyldig
25-10-2008, 17:58
Awesome lores, great pictures, fantastic job overall.

If you have the strength to continue this, I'll wait until the mortal lores come out for the extremely heavy praise :)

Mr_Rose
25-10-2008, 18:05
Yes, are you going to do the Warriors of Chaos Lores?

Also, if you are going to release them all as a set, you probably want to put them all together in a zip (or even better, 7-zip, since it's free and gets superior ratios) file and host them on-line somewhere free like pretty much any of these (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=free+file+hosting) then post the link the file host gives you in this thread. You can even pass-word protect the file if you want using 7-zip, just remember to give us the password...;)

Drow__Warrior
25-10-2008, 18:51
Yea, I'lll def. have to do that. I didn't know it was that simple. I've never messed with uploading stuff like this.

As for the lores of Chaos, I'd be happy to do them, but unfortunately, without the book I won't know the spell specifics. (Plus having the fluff to read from usually helps in finding a good pic) Same with the orcies : /.

If you were willing to send me a PM (because I know posting them is illegal) that included all this stuff, then I'd be happy to whip up some cards. Like I said , just give me a little time though, because Baltimore GT is comin up in a few weekends and I have to make sure my army is all set for that.

TheRaven476
28-10-2008, 20:43
Any update on these? Been looking forward to it all weekend.

Nesbet
28-10-2008, 21:20
me too, and waiting for a reply on my pm to you Drow ;D

Desert Rain
28-10-2008, 23:06
These cards are awesome! I will certenally ve using them. Looking forward to High Magic.

him_15
29-10-2008, 00:34
LOOOOVE the new version so much...especailly the Vampire lore..Hey guys! keep supporting!

Grimor Da Warchife
30-10-2008, 05:22
Nice very Nice

suurimonster
30-10-2008, 21:11
Brilliant, thanks for this :D.

Roodie78
31-10-2008, 12:21
I just wanted to say that these are fantastic and if I ever see you at a tourny (which is very unlikely) then beers will be flowing your way for the whole night :D

wamphyri101
01-11-2008, 22:11
Bumping this as its great and dont want it to vanish

Hulk54
12-11-2008, 19:52
any luck with the new chaos spells from the warriors list?

Da Boyzz
13-11-2008, 01:21
WoC Lores would be excellent! I love all your work so far!

Need Tzeentch! Drow_Warrior.


Thanks for all the effort mate.

Jolon
13-11-2008, 01:34
I use the Athel Loren ones- thank you kindly for the effort.

Spleendokta
13-11-2008, 08:00
Amazing stuff here! Any chance for some little and big waagh cards? :)

Sidorio
13-11-2008, 08:26
Drow_Warrior, you sir are a God among men. i can't wait to print these off and show them off at my club. :D
if i see you at a tournament in Australia when i'm 18 or older i'll buy you a 6-pack of beer. :skull:

Drow__Warrior
13-11-2008, 15:23
Thanks for all the feedback everyone! : ) I'll def. be getting to the individual army specific lores after the Baltimore Grand toourny this weekend.

Wargamejunkie
13-11-2008, 18:55
They look amazing!

I will have to download and print them all out!

Wolfmother
13-11-2008, 19:39
these are awsome dude if you do HE definitely getting them :) keep it up they look really professional

FlylikeaMouse
15-11-2008, 05:03
*one more vote for dark magic

Additional note: Fancy doing card backs for them too ? :angel:

Da Boyzz
20-11-2008, 05:33
*waits appreciatively for more*

I need WoC Cards! haha. Particularly tzeentch!

Nesbet
20-11-2008, 05:44
me too!! I really want some cool looking whf chaos cards!

;)

Lotho
20-11-2008, 07:41
Well done! the cards so far look awesome! :)

Another vote for Dark Magic too.

Elazar The Glorified
20-11-2008, 09:03
These are really great so far. Have to echo everyone's request for Warriors of Chaos lores. Top work though, well done!

Alathir
20-11-2008, 11:38
These are freaking fantastic! Definitely keep it going. I am going to print out a bunch for my gaming group methinks. Although I seem to be having trouble saving them after the Lore of Light... the png files worked perfectly but they jpeg's dont show up when I save them for some reason....

Red_Dog
20-11-2008, 14:20
Those are absolutely amazing man, great job :D

Drow__Warrior
20-11-2008, 14:36
Hey guys, working on them now. Stand by sometime tonight for Dark magic (Chaos lores to follow sometime this weekend.)

Nesbet
21-11-2008, 03:16
Nurgle!!!!

suurimonster
21-11-2008, 05:10
Waaaagggghhh!! Chaos magic is far too reliable to be fun ;).

FlylikeaMouse
21-11-2008, 05:16
Here you go guys, Dark Magic.

Thank you so much for putting the time into making these. Much appreciated.

Da Boyzz
21-11-2008, 07:15
Tzeentch needs to be done next! We all know the craze with 'Where'd my unit go?'

haha. Great work mate.

Sidorio
21-11-2008, 07:40
great job with the lore of dark magic. my chaos loving heart tells me to do nurgle (long live grandfather nurgle), but from what i've seen the most popular of the lores is tzeentch, so you'd be best doing them first.

moose
21-11-2008, 07:57
These cards are amazing, even though you haven't done any of my armies - i'll be printing them off and promoting them at my local GW.

Hats off to you Drow :).

Moose.

Elazar The Glorified
21-11-2008, 08:34
The Dark Magic cards are great, I'd vote Slaanesh for Chaos lore to be done first please!

Lotho
21-11-2008, 09:04
Love the dark magic cards, thankyou very much! keep up the good work!

FlylikeaMouse
21-11-2008, 10:17
Might want to check the spellings in the power of darkness spell.
Though i only noticed because i photoshopped them to change the fonts :angel:

D o c
21-11-2008, 16:38
Here you go guys, Dark Magic.

Any preference as to which Chaos lore gets done first?

Fantastic stuff, thanks for going to the effort of doing these.

My vote on Chaos Lores.......Warriors of Chaos Tzeentch!

Hulk54
29-11-2008, 09:13
any word on the tzeentch cards? I can't wait to see em!

C-Coen
29-11-2008, 10:07
Very, very nice work!
Looking forward to more! (but won't need any, Loren & Heavens are covered..)

Ginger_Dwarf
30-11-2008, 15:38
Are there PNG versions of Life and Light? I can't find them and the PNG's seem to come out alot better on my 'puter

Hulk54
04-12-2008, 22:16
any progress on the tzeentch lore for Warriors? please, please, please....

hardygun
05-12-2008, 14:44
These cards are very good Drow_Warrior! Any possibility of getting a Drain Magic card and a Ruination of Cities slipped in for the Lizardmen eventually?

andyy
05-12-2008, 15:59
great work..looking forward to the chaos lores as well :)

The SkaerKrow
05-12-2008, 17:18
Nice work, Drow_Warrior. Thanks a lot for sharing.

Wulgar13
08-12-2008, 16:42
Would love to see Warriors Of Chaos ones...And thanks Drow, these look great....

Drow__Warrior
08-12-2008, 16:57
I've been a little swamped lately. I'm in my finals week right now, so bear with me everybody. I prally wont get many opportunities to work on them this week.

IrishDelinquent
08-12-2008, 19:13
We needs da WAAAAGH!! magic please. Whenever you get the chance, we would love it.

eagletsi1
08-12-2008, 19:41
Very Nice.


Where is the High Elf Lore?

Drow__Warrior
09-12-2008, 23:41
I got a break in the action of finals week! Here's Nurgle! Lemme know what you think.

Nesbet
10-12-2008, 03:20
awesome!!!!

Goruax
10-12-2008, 03:37
Am loving the cards you've done so far Drow :)

PS, please do Tzeentch, as I already have your Death ones and just need Tzeentch ;)

Sidorio
10-12-2008, 04:39
hooray for nurgle... how do you like that tzeentch and slaanesh. :skull:

Edahlo
10-12-2008, 05:10
Wonderful work on these cards, the artwork is really fitting.

eagletsi1
12-12-2008, 15:11
:cries::cries:

No High Elf Lore Yet

Thanatos_elNyx
12-12-2008, 15:42
Any Skaven? :D

loveless
12-12-2008, 15:42
How did I not stumble on this thread earlier?

Drow_Warrior is one of my heroes of Warseer now. Lovin the Vamp cards.

Desert Rain
12-12-2008, 17:00
How is it going with High Magic?

Drow__Warrior
13-12-2008, 00:39
Tzeentch is next, then High. Ill get the next one up on Sunday. I'm Gald you guys like.

Lister of Smee
13-12-2008, 09:30
any chance of gut magic?

Desert Rain
13-12-2008, 11:39
Tzeentch is next, then High. Ill get the next one up on Sunday. I'm Gald you guys like.
OK, sounds nice!

Zarryiosiad
14-12-2008, 00:01
First of all you're doing a fantastic job on these cards. Keep up the excellent work!

That being said, I do have three tiny nitpicks for you. On the first card of the Bright Magic set, you've mispelled "Missile". You have it spelled twice as "Missle".
The second is on the Power Stone card: "Once Use Only" should be "One Use Only"
On the WoC card "Cloying Quagmire" you have "Any model in the unit chose". It should read "Any model in the unit whose"

Zarryiosiad

Boduddley
14-12-2008, 00:07
They are super looking.

I would love to have Lore cards like those.

BTW, how big are these cards when printed?

Great idea!

AramilSairSianontel
14-12-2008, 23:15
YOU RULE DROW! (there's something i never thought i'd say-save in a meeting with Drizzt:)) great job beer on me!

necroyp
15-12-2008, 02:11
Drow these are amazing.

Any chance of the other WOC lores.

vahouth
15-12-2008, 11:45
The cards i've seen so far are FANTASTIC!!!
I would very much like to see the back side of these lores.
Can u come up with something that will work?

Lazarus15
17-12-2008, 18:22
Definitely looking forward to High Magic

darkelves99
17-12-2008, 18:44
that one card you have named doom and darkness, isnt that dammnation "all creatures in play are destroyed"?lol

neXus6
17-12-2008, 19:42
Brilliant work Drow, great wee selection of art, and very useful too. :D

Just two little things I've noticed, in Athel Loren you misspelt Twilight in Twilight Host and in Fire the tail of the "g" in Flaming Sword of Rhuin has been cut off.

I hope you don't mind but I took the liberty of fixing them. :)

I would say I am unsure about the art for Crow's Feast...but that really is a personal thing depending on if you see it as a large celestial crow (Corvus) attack the enemy unit, or a murder of crows decending on them.
Your choice is certainly good for the first. :D

Mercules
17-12-2008, 19:49
Well, as long as Hasbro doesn't get wind of this you should be ok. They look great but then they should, Wizards of the Coast paid for all that art you are using.

neXus6
17-12-2008, 20:09
And that is what's wrong with copywrite laws. They are supposed to protect and enhance creativity, but all it does is stifle it. I seriously doubt Hasbro would get their knickers in a twist about somethin like this, but if they did it would just be more proof that copywrite and capitalism has gone totally mad. ;)

Hmm...on the Crows Feast front there really is very little artwork (not just cart artwork but any) depicting crows or ravens attacking things, any that do have them scavenging it tends to just be 2 or 3 of them. A big dark cloud of crows might look cool, but again finding art that suits the style of the others is hard.

lparigi34
17-12-2008, 20:19
THIS IS SOOOO GREAT

My highest appreciation for this effort. I've done some nice handout that summarize game phases and all important rules. I guess that I must upload that too... nahhhh, sorry, just realized GW would sue me...

Mercules
17-12-2008, 21:19
And that is what's wrong with copywrite laws. They are supposed to protect and enhance creativity, but all it does is stifle it.

Um... except this really isn't creativity. This is taking WotC creative property and GW creative property and mixing them together.

neXus6
17-12-2008, 21:33
People have been taking random things and mixing them together to get new things for millennia, that doesn't make it any less creative.
Otherwise people would be tearing WotC and GW appart for all the "influences" they have put together with little or no editing to "create" their worlds. ;)

Personally anything to make a dull list of spells more interesting is great and should be supported in my opinion. :D
Besides Hasbro will be too busy making My Little Transformers Pony toys to care. :p

eagletsi1
18-12-2008, 13:22
As long as he doesn't sell them I don't see an issue at all.

Mercules
18-12-2008, 13:27
As long as he doesn't sell them I don't see an issue at all.

This is a misnomer. You do not have to profit from something to violate Copyright law. Most copyright states for personal use only. As such you could download and even print out an image and place it upon your wall in your home. If you were to print it out and place it as decor in your place of business or give it to a friend or put it in a compilation CD you make available for downloading by anyone, especially without giving proper credit to whomever owns the copyright you probably violated Copyright law.

The M:TG card layout and the images on them are both Copyrighted separately.

The rule wording of the spells is also protected by Copyright.

So now you have two rival companies with their intellectual property being used in conjunction and without permission. Hmmmmmm...

:)

neXus6
18-12-2008, 14:20
That doesn't mean Copyright is correct, which in my opinion it is not.

Even still I disagree entirely to a breaching of WotC's Copyright, using art which they may have commissoned for cards is unlikely to constitute a breach, the layout is different enough and the important thing is it is not a CCG, and there is no breach with the lores of magic as they have been made publicly avaliable by GW on several occations.

Though I suggest if you do want to discuss such things take it to RM and start a thread about Copyright, if there isn't already one. :p

Mercules
18-12-2008, 14:47
That doesn't mean Copyright is correct, which in my opinion it is not.

Even still I disagree entirely to a breaching of WotC's Copyright, using art which they may have commissoned for cards is unlikely to constitute a breach, the layout is different enough and the important thing is it is not a CCG, and there is no breach with the lores of magic as they have been made publicly avaliable by GW on several occations.

Though I suggest if you do want to discuss such things take it to RM and start a thread about Copyright, if there isn't already one. :p

Why? This is on topic.

Per WotC TOU document on their website concerning their electronic images:

2. Intellectual Property Ownership; Rights Granted to You

The text, images, designs, logos, video, sound, code, data, and other materials and information, as well as the selection and arrangement thereof, available through the Site (collectively, "Site Content") are the proprietary property of Wizards or its licensors or other Users, and are protected by copyright, trademark, and other intellectual property laws. You are granted a limited, non-sublicenseable license to access and use the Site and electronically copy (except where specified as prohibited) and print to hard copy portions of Site Content for your personal, noncommercial use only; provided, that you preserve any copyright, trademark or other similar notices contained in or associated with such Site Content. Such license is subject to these TOU and does not include: (i) any resale or commercial use of the Site or any Site Content therein; (ii) the collection and use of any product or service listings, pictures or descriptions; (iii) the distribution (electronic or otherwise), public performance, or public display of any Site Content; (iv) modifying or otherwise making any derivative uses of the Site and Site Content, or any portion thereof; (v) use of any data mining, robots or similar data gathering or extraction methods; (vi) downloading (other than the page caching) of any portion of the Site, any Site Content or any information contained therein, except as expressly permitted on the Site; or (vii) any use of the Site or Site Content other than for its intended purpose. Any use of the Site or Site Content other than as specifically authorized herein, without the prior written permission of Wizards, is strictly prohibited and will terminate the license granted herein. This license is revocable at any time.

See the part I bolded? This is a derivative of their pictures and card format.

Drow__Warrior
18-12-2008, 15:59
Fair enough, I'm gonna ask to have this taken down then. I made them up and thought they were useful, thats all. Its not worth it if its going to escalate like this.

Geddonight
18-12-2008, 16:21
Mercules et. al,

Go away.

I absolutely adore what Drow has been doing. It's been a wonderful teaching asset for the people in my area for WHFB. So much "what's that spell do?" followed by "here, check it out."

I don't really care if it violates copyright law/Wizards' site license, etc. 1) Drow isn't profiting from the action; 2) No real damage is being done to WotC (in fact, these almost make me want to start playing again); 3) Drow's providing a wonderful service that isn't fulfilled elsewhere.

Drow__Warrior
18-12-2008, 16:27
Regardless of whehter or not these are liked by the community, Mercules is 100% correct. nough said..

Lazarus15
18-12-2008, 16:44
So download while you can gents, before the post is closed.

neXus6
18-12-2008, 17:29
Mercules is 100% wong but if you want to pull them do so.

If anyone wants them after they are pulled I have all 8 basic lores, Athel Loren, and Vampires saved and I'll stick them up on photobucket or megaupload or something if you chuck me a PM.

N810
18-12-2008, 17:47
well mtgsalvation.com one of the bigest Magic: the Gathering websites
has had a card creation contest for years where they make fictional magic cards.
that could easily be mistaken for real cards and they have no been sued or shut down.
the only issue I see there is that they insist that you give the artist name for the card art.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66

If they havent ben shut down and sued then I wouldn't get all worked up about these cards.

Spirit
18-12-2008, 18:00
Drow, just because some spoilsport comes in quoting copyright law does not mean he has any REAL authority on the matter, he is just trolling for the sake of it.

Don't take these down, you would be doing everyone a disservice by doing that!

They are amazing, +1 to you sir. :D

Mercules
18-12-2008, 18:01
Mercules is 100% wong but if you want to pull them do so.

No I am not. If you think so contact WotC and ask them.

I greatly appreciate the attempt to give us something very useful Drow_Warrior. I've wanted these for a while, but you need to either use original art work or at the very least credit the artists and not follow WotC format for cards.

Example:

Spirit
18-12-2008, 18:04
I greatly appreciate the attempt to give us something very useful Drow_Warrior. I've wanted these for a while, but you need to either use original art work or at the very least credit the artists and not follow WotC format for cards.




What gives you the authority to say this may i ask? If no one at the company has a problem with it, deal with it.

Keep them the way they are I say.

Vive le Revolution!

Mercules
18-12-2008, 18:11
Drow, just because some spoilsport comes in quoting copyright law does not mean he has any REAL authority on the matter, he is just trolling for the sake of it.

Don't take these down, you would be doing everyone a disservice by doing that!

They are amazing, +1 to you sir. :D

You are right... I have no authority. It started out as, "Um.. hey... you might want to watch it because you are breaking Copyright. Just to let you know."

Yes it is very unlikely they will take any action against Drow_Warrior, but companies have been known to threaten the owners of sites like this to take down the offending material. In return sometimes those sites turn around and say to the user, "Hey knock it off."

I guess I won't try to protect people from themselves in the futre.:eyebrows:

neXus6
18-12-2008, 18:16
Sigh...I wasn't going to reply this again but okay...

The card format is the same, but the main thing is that the cards are not for a CCG, infact they don't even need to be cards at all, just 6 pictures on a piece of paper. That difference automatically prevents it being a copyright issue. WotC will have a trademark on those as a CCG, so that no other CCG may use their product.

As for adding the artists name to it, that is fair but is not needed. It is just another part of the current capitalist copyright madness, do you honestly think anything said or done by anyone should be referenced? Every word in every sentance? Any piece of art remotly influenced by something? Every piece of literature, something which has a long standing history of accepted plagerism with only complete ****ers ever suing people.

The bottom line.
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT YOU TAKE IT UP WITH WotC.
It is not your place to wander in and spout such garbage.

Yes Mercules you raised a possible issue, but when told it was unlikely to be an issue you carried on to press the point like some corporate lawyer already hired to review the case, so you deserve anything that gets leveled at you.

Drow__Warrior
18-12-2008, 18:38
No arguments here are necessary. As I've said, Mercules is correct. LEGALLY, this is an example of copyright infringement as wizards defines it. All he is doing is giving me a heads up, which I greatly appreciate.

It was my understanding that the only way I could infringe on copywritten material was to SELL said material.

Being as this is NOT the case, I would like them taken down.

Sorry guys, end of story.

N810
18-12-2008, 18:55
like I said is MTGSalvation doesn't have a problem with people making custom
cards (in fact they hold the contest) then I don't see what the problem is.
They are to the Magic community what Warseer is to the Warhammer comminity.
I am fairly sure Wizards of the Coast would have shut them down years ago if they where abusing WotC copyright laws.

So just put the artist name back on the bottom left and everything should be ok...

Da Boyzz
20-12-2008, 09:26
I am devastated that these have been taken down! I have been following it the whole time, waiting and waiting for tzeentch WoC.

Damn you mercules!!! Aaaaaaahhhh!

Alathir
20-12-2008, 09:38
Why take them down because you 'might' be asked to take them down later?

I say keep them up until you're asked to take them down. Stick it to the man!

TomGuadalupe
20-12-2008, 17:28
Well its just sad and sorry these have been taken down.

Anyone have another link or a rapidshare account with these saved.

I suppose i should have downloaded them when i had the chance but i did not forsee jokers ruining it everyone.


Alternative link anyone?

suurimonster
21-12-2008, 05:09
At least here is a pdf with all the cards apart from Chaos in the correct scale to print and put in sleeves (which is what I did). I will keep it up until Wizards calls me ;).

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=525899f91d941397d2db6fb9a8902bda

Thanks again Drow, sorry that you couldn't finish it.

Kalandros
21-12-2008, 17:18
http://www.9daysdown.co.uk/manticore/downloads/DarkElfMagicCards.pdf

Dark Lore Cards for Dark Elves, posted on druchii.net shortly after their new book's release months ago.

Sidorio
22-12-2008, 00:46
It's a real shame it had to come to this... i really would have liked to see some more lores completed.

if in doubt i have a copy of all the cards and can also put up a link to them if needed.

GodlessM
22-12-2008, 00:56
I am devastated that these have been taken down! I have been following it the whole time, waiting and waiting for tzeentch WoC.

Damn you mercules!!! Aaaaaaahhhh!

I have a copy of the Tzeentch lore cards, if you need em just PM me.

IrishDelinquent
22-12-2008, 01:17
What has happened?! Threats of copywright infringement have derailed this project? And all before WAAAGH!! magic cards were made?! :eek:

The death of these magic cards makes me a saaaaaaaad panda :cries: However, I can understand why the decision was made. Thanks anyways Drow.

Elazar The Glorified
22-12-2008, 07:28
Well they're not as nice as Drow_Warrior's but there's always these (http://www.warhammer.baronwolf.com/magic%20cards.php)

Da Boyzz
25-12-2008, 06:31
Thanks for that Link elazor. I guess because of Mercules, these will just have to do.

Jagosaja
25-12-2008, 07:34
Don't throw rocks at Mercules, he is right about what he said. You cannot expect Drow to risk possible legal problems because someone would like to have cards. I also greatly appreciate what he has done, but I understand and support the reason he has backed away.

Those artworks were not meant to be used this way, someone owns the rights for them. I like these new cards, but if someone took my drawings I would be protecting my rights. The only good thing is, while Drow was posting cards, noone actually sued him.

TomGuadalupe
25-12-2008, 16:31
Well they're not as nice as Drow_Warrior's but there's always these (http://www.warhammer.baronwolf.com/magic%20cards.php)

Thanks for pointing these out sir, its funny that the person that made these does not appear to be having any legal issues.

Master Stark
25-12-2008, 16:43
Don't throw rocks at Mercules, he is right about what he said.

No, he was correct. Thats a very different thing to being right.

He was correct when he said it was a copyright violation.

But killing the project and the thread was the wrong thing to do.

Zark the Damned
26-12-2008, 16:20
Sorry to see these taken down, it was an interesting project.

Of course, to be devil's advocate I could point out they were technically violating GW's copyright by reproducing the rules from the various books. Although this may fall under 'fair use'.

Why not have another crack at them though, this time creating your own templates instead using of the MTG ones (like Kalandros' Dark Magic cards above)? Once you have a basic template done as a photoshop file (or whatever graphic program you work with) it should be no problem to just change the text etc. for each card.

Drow__Warrior
27-12-2008, 13:34
I think people over credit me for the graphics work here...

This wasn't rocket science. It was cute and paste using paint..

I have zero experience with any real graphics programs. Still though, I thank everyone for all the support. It's at least good to know there are some people out there who will get some use out of these.

penek
28-12-2008, 11:40
wow. (= i just spent yesterday to find old GW magic lores cards (=
Awesome work! thank u for them!
ps. quick question as i not yet downloaded cards, are they current version of spells available in BRB and army books? (i don't care much if there no WoC cards)

Arromanche
28-12-2008, 21:39
Would it be possible for someone to make up cards to say what special abilities are in play. Get the pictures from somewhere else if there is a problem.

Dark Elf Cauldron of Blood:

Fury of Khaine - All models in unit gain +1 attack
Strength of Khaine - All models in unit gain Killing Blow
Bloodshield of Khaine - All models in unit gain a 5+ WS

Chaos Eye of the Gods:

Insanity - Stupid for the rest of the game
Unholy Resilience - +1 toughness
Slaughterers Strength - +1 Str
Razor-Sharp Horns - +1 attack
Iron-Hard Skin - +1 armour save
Flames of Chaos - MR(3)
Command of the Gods - +1 Ldr
Fearsome Aura - Causes fear
Terrifying Appearance - Causes Terror
Divine Greatness - 4+ Ward save

Lizardmen Engine of the Gods:

5+ Ward to all friendly units within 12" from ranged attacks made from more than 12" away from the Engine

2D6 S4 hits with no armour save to enemies within 2D6". Undead, Daemons and Forest Spirits take S5 hits with no armour save.

reduce the casting difficulty of all spells from one Lore of magic from the rulebook by 3

Todosi
29-12-2008, 18:46
Or just make your own at home.

http://wwwhome.cs.utwente.nl/~oosting/magicthecreation/

Try that site for an online card creator.

Zark the Damned
03-01-2009, 15:51
Sorry to bring this up if it's already been mentioned, but I was looking at the GW site just now and noticed this on the homepage - http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=11100007

Official Lore cards for the 8 main ones.

Guess someone at GW saw this thread :D

PandaBear
07-10-2009, 02:01
Dude's where's the pdf so I can download the magic Cards?

nzdarkelf
07-10-2009, 03:58
Someone spooked the original poster inregards copyright infringment so he took them down.

CraftworldsRus
07-10-2009, 04:36
Say, I'm a fair graphics artist, if I made a set of color-swapable free-use templates, could this fun little project get steam again? I could even whip up some Lore and Casting Level icons! The Lores of Magic exact spell rules, might be an issue, but it would be a simple matter to make the cards with spell name ,a casting value, and art which could used as is, or the spell info could be typed in before printing by the users. If the Lores of Magic text isn't an issue though, then even better. Just please, let me know, either here, or in a PM, if there is enough interest to make this worth my time.

Azethel
07-10-2009, 12:25
I would definitely be interested in lore cards being made up...especially for warriors. i miss the days where the chaos rule book came in a box with loads of cards.

Onisuzume
07-10-2009, 12:46
Sorry to bring this up if it's already been mentioned, but I was looking at the GW site just now and noticed this on the homepage - http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=11100007

Official Lore cards for the 8 main ones.

Guess someone at GW saw this thread :D
Actually, I doubt that - the backside of those cards are pretty much identical to the magic cards from 5th edition.
So yeah, all they really did was steal their own old idea...
I wonder if they'll do the same with magic items (like they had back in 5th as well).

Try that site for an online card creator.
There's also Magic Set Editor (http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/download), which allows you to make cards from pretty much any card game (and even design your own cards/templates).