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untimention
10-10-2008, 00:03
If i use an enchanted shield + heavy armour do i get a 3+ or 5+ save?

Also if that person is armed with Choppa and a magic shield do i get a 2+ or 4+ save in combat?

Bac5665
10-10-2008, 00:08
1) 3+

2) 2+

untimention
10-10-2008, 06:22
3+ and 2+ ok

just what is confusing is the shield does allow u 2 'add 2 to ur save' it gives u 5+ and heavy armour gives u 5+ as well

10-10-2008, 06:46
Armour saves stack.
Light armour and enchanted shield: 6+ save and 5+ save combined, gives 4+.
Heavy armour, barded horse and normal shield: 5+, 5+ and 6+ stack into 2+.

A shield and hand weapon give a bonus of 1 on your armour save. (both can be magic for this purpose, as long as the have 'shield' or 'hand weapon' in their description). So if you have only a shield for 6+, and you have a hand weapon and you get into close combat, the shield now provides 5+.

Ward saves on the other hand do not stack. You pick the best.
Maybe that's what you got it confused with?

Concerning how to calculate AS. Important is the + sign. If it says 5+ it means you save succesfully on 5 or higher, but if the sign is on the other side like +2 it means it stacks lowers your armour save for example from 5+ to 3+.

I hope this clears everything out?

Atrahasis
10-10-2008, 08:22
3+ and 2+ ok

just what is confusing is the shield does allow u 2 'add 2 to ur save' it gives u 5+ and heavy armour gives u 5+ as well

Please, y's and o's won't hurt you.

The Red Scourge
10-10-2008, 09:15
Please, y's and o's won't hurt you.

Well o's are quite safe, but y's are nothing but sharp pointy bits pointing in every direction :p