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Psy-Crow
14-10-2008, 14:38
I definitely need an extremely hard hitting army for my next battle against the ogre kingdoms. My last battle using a "standard setup" ended up in a massacre.

My idea is:

Kholek Suneater - 605
Throgg - 165
Sorcerer lv.2, lore of fire - 120
+ conjoined homunculus - 20

Trolls (3) joined by Throgg - 135
Trolls (3) - 135
Warriors (10) additional hand weapon
+ standard bearer - 172

Chosen (10) additional hand weapon
+ standard bearer - 210
Chosen (10) additional hand weapon
+ standard bearer - 210

Giant - 225
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:skull: 1997 :skull:

What would you prefer?

Crispian25
14-10-2008, 14:46
Giant is probably a bad idea, especially if he brings a hunter. You could get two units of 5 marauder horsemen with flails and frenzy, as stated elsewhere, for 210 points. More units against ogres will help, especially when hitting the flanks of their units. More S5 hits means more chances to kill them. I would also look into getting some more things to dispel his/her magic phase to shut down trollguts.

Psy-Crow
14-10-2008, 17:28
And what about this?

Kholek Suneater - 605
Throgg - 165
Sorcerer lv.2, lore of fire - 120

Trolls (3) joined by Throgg - 135
Trolls (3) - 135
Marauder Horsemen MoS (5) flails
+ standard bearer / joined by Kholek - 97
Marauder Horsemen MoS (5) flails
+ standard bearer / chieftain - 109
Marauder Horsemen MoS (5) flails
+ standard bearer / chieftain - 109
Marauders MoS (15) flails
+ standard bearer / chieftain - 101

Chosen (10) additional hand weapon
+ standard bearer - 210
Chosen (10) additional hand weapon
+ standard bearer - 210

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1996

LION
14-10-2008, 19:36
;) I recon that if youn take SunEater you should take two 3 Dragon
Ogre Model units. Give each a Champ + xtra Hand Weapons. Your have a better excuse for taking the Special Charchter & they should give Ogres a kicking.

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Kalec
14-10-2008, 22:07
Kholek has legions of marauder followers, so taking a lot of them makes sense. Not to mention, horsemen with flails hurt a lot for their points, and ogres have a hard time stopping them from reaching combat.

Chosen are a waste, take more trolls or great weapon dragon ogres. You do not want to give your opponent the edge in mobility, and chosen are too expensive for what they do anyway.

Of course, all you really need to do to win is get Kholek into combat and keep trollguts down. Kholek will wipe out 4 ogres per combat phase, easily, so get him into combat and do not let your opponent get trollguts through, or you will have a much harder time dealing damage.

Also, Throgg costs 175, not 165.

Psy-Crow
15-10-2008, 01:00
So, here is my last one for now ;)
GW will like it the most because I'll have to buy 6 dragon ogres :D

Kholek - 605
Throgg - 175
Sorcerer lv.2 - 120

Trolls (3) - 135
Trolls (3) - 135
Trolls (3) - 135

Horsemen MoK (5) flails - 105
Horsemen MoK (5) flails - 105

Dragon Ogres (3) great weapons - 231
Dragon Ogres (3) champion / great weapons - 251

1997

Kalec
15-10-2008, 01:16
why the dragon ogre champ? 20 points for one more attack that you really don't need is a bit much.

drop the champ upgrade, bring the sorcerer down to level 1 (one butcher and you will be lucky to get a single spell off a turn, level 2 or level 1), and grab two dispel scrolls for those crucial castings of gut magic that you cannot afford to let through.

Psy-Crow
15-10-2008, 02:26
And after these last changes... do you think i can kick the damn ogres off the table? :chrome:

LION
15-10-2008, 11:23
:D I like the changes and think the balance isn't to bad. If you don't fancy giving GW£$£$£ then consider converting 6 Plastic DOgres. I enclose a link to a guy who has similar ideas to mine & has been making plastic Dragon Ogres + Marauder Centaurshttp://ogrestronghold.com/forum/inde...0;sa=showPosts (http://ogrestronghold.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=210;sa=showPosts) LION

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