View Full Version : Stand and shoot vs skirmishers

16-10-2008, 05:36
If you are charged by skirmishers, do you take -2 off your to hit roll when you stand and shoot, -1 for standing and shooting, and -1 for shooting at skirmishers, or since they are forming up into ranks do you not have to take the -1 for firing on skirmishers?

The Red Scourge
16-10-2008, 05:48

They never "lose" the skirmish trait – otherwise they'd also be able to negate ranks in CC etc.

16-10-2008, 06:16
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, it just seems pretty OP to get a -2 to hit vs a stand and shoot reaction.

Gorbad Ironclaw
16-10-2008, 06:56
Well, it could be -6. You could also suffer modifiers for long range, (hard/soft) cover, multiple shot and anything else that's out there.

16-10-2008, 07:08
If a unit of Outriders with Repeater Handguns were standing and shooting at Mengil's Manflayers in hard cover, at long range (over 12"), using their multiple shots, while the Storm Banner was in effect and after they had been soaked with Rain Lord that would be:

-1 for stand and shoot
-1 for multiple shots
-1 for long range
-2 for hard cover
-1 for skirmishing
-2 for the Banner of Kalad
-2 for the Storm Banner
-2 for Rain Lord

So -12.

Of course they'd fail that charge, but you'd still get to shoot!