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LemanRuss
16-10-2008, 22:27
from my experience i must say for the points it costs and for what it can do.
the heavy mortar from the siege of vraks part one list.

not only does it have a good str a good ap and a big blast but it counts as barage aswell!

its shockingly cheap for what it can do and its usabe in squads of 4 damn!

i think its even better but that depends.
is it ordanance?
if yes then tis baby can even tackle tanks comfortably.
so anyone know?


also what is youre favorite/most feared weapons in the game?

the neckbone
16-10-2008, 22:29
if its a barrage weapon then it counts as ordanance

and at the moment i think the melta gun is the best.
Tanks are much more survivable now and the melta gun is the only weapon that when its in range it will prolly blow the tank up.
and its only 10 points

LemanRuss
16-10-2008, 22:34
thanks neckbone.
then indeed this weapon is my favorite.
tough does ordanance give

2d6 armour penetration added up
or
2d6 armour penetration pick the highest.

would help a lot i'm in the middle of a game and forgot?:P

Lord Damocles
16-10-2008, 22:34
what is youre favorite/most feared weapons in the game?
The BOLTER is the best weapon in 40K.



Fact.

Dark Primus
16-10-2008, 22:39
Sonic blasters, maximum 3 shots and 24 range, very good for 5 pts. But becomes expensive for adding it on already expensive marines.

Baneboss
16-10-2008, 22:40
Bullpoopie!

The best weapon is lasgun! Its cheap, reliable and can even stop Dreadnoughts!

Dark Primus
16-10-2008, 22:41
The BOLTER is the best weapon in 40K.



Fact.

Are opinions facts now? :p

Unclejo
16-10-2008, 22:48
Missile Launchers. Relatively cheap, flexible and effective.

Second place has got to go to the humble lasgun. Ever noticed how if something big and mean has 1 wound left, all the ordanance in the world will just bounce off? But the lasgun always does it.

LemanRuss
16-10-2008, 22:50
i second what uncle jo said about the lasgun.
wierd isn't it

devik
16-10-2008, 22:53
if its a barrage weapon then it counts as ordanance

Since when?

regular mortars aren't ordnance.

keatsmeister
16-10-2008, 22:53
I'm tempted to say Flamer type weapons as I just love 'em but I do respect those Wraithcannons

devik
16-10-2008, 23:01
Missile Launchers. Relatively cheap, flexible and effective.

Second place has got to go to the humble lasgun. Ever noticed how if something big and mean has 1 wound left, all the ordanance in the world will just bounce off? But the lasgun always does it.

I saw a Deathwing army get mowed down by lasgun fire. It was fairly awe-inspiring.

A 2+ save doesn't help for long when each model is taking 3-4 wounds per turn.

J-E-D
16-10-2008, 23:04
Urien Rakarth's Destructor...

Flamer template that auto wounds and ap is D6....

Hicks
16-10-2008, 23:58
Railgun on hammerhead. It makes a mockery of your tanks and can also effectively deal with infantry thanks to it's template.

Lord Cook
17-10-2008, 00:10
if its a barrage weapon then it counts as ordanance

As it happens, the Heavy Mortar is ordnance. But that has nothing to do with it being a barrage weapon. Barrage does not equal ordnance.

ehlijen
17-10-2008, 00:28
Strike cruiser mounted orbital bombardment cannons. It's an ordnance barrage Railgun! Except for the one shot per battle thing...

tk7
17-10-2008, 00:46
Eldar Fusion Pistol has to be one of my favourites. Not much it can't melt, especially within 3"! Any pistol that can melt a Land Raider gets my vote.

afshinbb
17-10-2008, 00:51
eldar fusion not used enough to make it best. how about the wind of chaos with no armor save or cover save, wounds anything on a 4+ i hate that thing. always kills me wraithguard like they are runts.

kaimarion
17-10-2008, 00:53
I would have to say titan weapons :p .

shadekiller
17-10-2008, 01:02
the best weapon to kill a man quickly and rapidly in a «classic» 40k game (no FW) is IMHO the railgun for sure. long range, mounted on a skimmer or 2+ save 2pv guy, and has max strenght, max AP. I personnaly don't need anything else to be fixed XD

Captin Korea!
17-10-2008, 01:09
Doom Siren. A evy flamer with ap 3? Say good by to those marines holding objectives.

MonkeyLord
17-10-2008, 02:02
Still a big fan of the Plasma Rifle. I love watching Ork players sweat profusely as they beat cheeks across the battlefield. :)

Bunnahabhain
17-10-2008, 02:17
Best in 40K? Blackstone fortress....

Best in regular 40k , with rules? Hammerhead railguns.

Very good AT capacity, good anti horde power, and marker lights to make sure it works as intended.If we were in an even numbered edition, then it would have to be assualt cannons.....

MasterDecoy
17-10-2008, 02:18
I dunno, fleshborers can do a lot of damage....

Lisiecki
17-10-2008, 02:28
also what is youre favorite/most feared weapons in the game?

Master Crafted Lightning Claws

There just cool

MADJAP77
17-10-2008, 02:44
i love the vulcan mega bolter str6 ap3 w/15shots!!!!!! hello meq squad......

shutupSHUTUP!!!
17-10-2008, 02:47
As always, the Commissar's laspistol.

Dictator
17-10-2008, 02:59
Between a Vanquisher cannon and a lasgun
Vanquisher deals with all tanks minus the monolith and all infantry minus termies.
Lasgun kills everything because there are 100's of em in a good sized army.

weissengel86
17-10-2008, 03:22
i love the vulcan mega bolter str6 ap3 w/15shots!!!!!! hello meq squad......
I agree facing a mega vulcan bolter would make me nervous i would damn sure take out whatever had it as soon as possible. What infantry unit could possibly face this beast and live to tell? Pretty much any power armoured or even terminator armoured unit in the game would be slaughtered. Horde armies would be devastated as well and any tank with 12 or less armour value would be destroyed with almost 100% reliability.
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Inquisitor Engel
17-10-2008, 03:29
Conversion Beamer

The Dragon Reborn
17-10-2008, 03:32
big fan of the rail gun

Chem-Dog
17-10-2008, 03:40
Doom Siren. A evy flamer with ap 3? Say good by to those marines holding objectives.

Not to mention it doesn't take up any hands so you can mince any survivors with lots of PW attacks afterwards :evilgrin:

As a Guard player, I'm honour bound to say the Lasgun.

Other Favourites are the Demolisher Cannon (don't bother trying to deal with that assault unit while it's the other side of the table, just let them get close enough and BANG......) and the Chainfist.

ShadowDeth
17-10-2008, 04:44
I'm not sure, this is a really tough question.

I think if you were to ask what's the most efficient weapon in the game, I'd have to go with whatever costs the least and can affect the maximum number of targets. So the railgun is out because it's like 100+ points, or like 70 on a dude. Pass, I can get two lascannons for less than that.

It was probably the assault cannon in 4th edition. Now, I'm going with... melta gun. It's cost effective to theoretically use on marines (if you could get a squad with like 10), can hurt any tank in the game except the Monolith, and conveniently insta-kills most characters in the game as well.

Gensuke626
17-10-2008, 04:52
It was probably the assault cannon in 4th edition. Now, I'm going with... melta gun. It's cost effective to theoretically use on marines (if you could get a squad with like 10), can hurt any tank in the game except the Monolith, and conveniently insta-kills most characters in the game as well.

Emphasis mine.

You mean like a squad of Fire Dragons?

Vaktathi
17-10-2008, 05:32
if its a barrage weapon then it counts as ordanance

and at the moment i think the melta gun is the best.
Tanks are much more survivable now and the melta gun is the only weapon that when its in range it will prolly blow the tank up.
and its only 10 points

Not all Barrage weapons are Ordnance, Mortars for example are not Ordnance, but they are Barrage weapons.

Herman the Heathen
17-10-2008, 05:44
I'd say the ork rokkit launcha.

It's cheap.

The model carrying it is cheap.

You can have LOADS of them.

It can hurt everything in the game.

It's a fuggin assault krak missile launcher!

There isn't an amry that it's not effective against, with the possible exception of pure ork infantry lists, but even there it's the bane of nobs mobs.

ichbala
17-10-2008, 06:24
It would be a nightmare for enemy troops if shoota boyz had better BS
2 str 4 shots----------move---------2 str s4 shots-------------move-----2 str 4 shots----charge--------------

Admiral Samuel Eden
17-10-2008, 06:29
I really like bolters equipped with specialist ammunitions. This kicks.

GodofWarTx
17-10-2008, 06:39
Inferno Cannon.

I havent had a game where my siege dreadnaught hadnt burninated its "points" back and set people on fire like they were matchsticks.

clanfield
17-10-2008, 06:45
demolisher canon str 10 ap 1 lg blast not the range of a rail gun but i size fits all stats iv seen em vaporize multi squads and tanks in single shot usaly the tank carrying it has nice armor save as well

Vaktathi
17-10-2008, 07:31
Inferno Cannon.

I havent had a game where my siege dreadnaught hadnt burninated its "points" back and set people on fire like they were matchsticks.

Unfortunately for it, the Siege Dreadnought lost its Inferno cannon with IA:6, its back to being an IG only weapon again. Now the Siege Dread has the Redeemer's AP3 flamer instead.

Khornies & milk
17-10-2008, 08:05
Unfortunately for it, the Siege Dreadnought lost its Inferno cannon with IA:6, its back to being an IG only weapon again. Now the Siege Dread has the Redeemer's AP3 flamer instead.

well...only if my gaming group find out about it:D

My pick for best shooty weapon is the Demolisher Cannon, and TLC's for c/c weapon..especially en masse.

alphastealer
17-10-2008, 08:25
As far as I am concerned the best weapon is one that cannot be stopped before it shoots and can kill anything.

To me that is the demonhunter lance strike (S10 AP1 Ordinance).

Shangrila
17-10-2008, 09:41
Railgun or Demolisher cannon on Death potential.

But id have to say the earth shakers pretty good at making people hate them with no line of sight required and a 20 foot range with lascannon template its a hole lot of "hot steel death pie" via Kren and frep.

Ronin_eX
17-10-2008, 09:44
Combi-weapon specialist bolters carried by the Sternguard. They have ammo for every occaision and on the off chance something you aren't prepared for comes around you have the secondary weapon as well (flamer for hordes, plasma for heavy infantry with a 2+ save and melta for vehicles).

They pack more versatility than even a missile launcher and they are equipped to one of the most flexible units in the game. Stick the Sternguard in a drop pod and even the relative short range of the bolter is a non-issue.

All in all it makes it possibly one the best standard weapons in the game. Beyond that anything with a pie-plate and low AP is a good vote.

Jericho
17-10-2008, 09:50
My 5 or so Space Marine armies would kill me if I said anything other than bolter.

Sternguard vets obviously don't hurt this argument lol :D

The Hammerhead's Railgun has to be up there as well. Ridiculous range, S10 AP1, submunition option, and it can be guided by markerlights. Plus you're stucking it on the Hammerhead chassis, which is an amazing weapon platform.

Wolflord Havoc
17-10-2008, 10:35
Best Weapon in the game

A Marine and His Boltgun

Actually a Vanguard Veteran Marine and His Boltgun with special Ammo - is the best weapon in the game.

The new Thunderfire Cannon is also pretty damn good IMO for its points and you get a heavily armed/armoured Techmarine as well (Effectively making the weapon 25 points!).

rossco13.com
17-10-2008, 11:30
BATTLE CANNON


DIE POWER ARMOURED FREAKS(even though i play them)WITH A RANGE 72 S 8 AP3 POWER ARMOUR BUSTING WEAPON

Poseidal
17-10-2008, 11:37
The Close Combat Weapon.

What else is as widely used by almost all armies?

Frankye
17-10-2008, 11:57
Shokk Attack Gun!
It's just too fun to pass on if you have the points for it, and in my book anything that makes the game funnier is worth it :)

x-esiv-4c
17-10-2008, 12:07
I vote for the humble vortex missile.

willydstyle
17-10-2008, 12:21
It would be a nightmare for enemy troops if shoota boyz had better BS
2 str 4 shots----------move---------2 str s4 shots-------------move-----2 str 4 shots----charge--------------

The shoota actually IS a nightmare for enemy troops. Point for point a shoota boy has more firepower than a space marine with a bolter.

150 points of marines= 10 bolters
150 points of shoota boys=25 shootas

The shoota boys can move 6" then fire 18, giving them an effective range of 24" from the start of the turn. They get 50 shots. On average 16.7 of those shots hit.

The Marines have to be stationary to fire 24" and they only get 10 shots. On average 6.7 of those shots hit.

At 12" the marines improve, but still get less average hits than the shoota boys mob at 13.3 average hits. At 12" the shoota boys still have 16.7 hits.

The shoota boys can always charge after firing their shootas. The marines cannot charge after firing bolters.

Shootas are the best weapon, point for point. Bolters are arguably the worst. Rapid fire is the worst weapon type in the game, and the str4 only makes the bolter marginally better than a lasgun.

Don't get me wrong. I play chaos and I kill a lot of things with bolters. But only because I have to. Sometimes it makes me feel bad that I have the best troops in the game who lug along one of the worst weapons in the game.

burtnernie
17-10-2008, 12:31
Has to be the Melta Gun... 10 points huh... quite simply win. Especially on SW scouts...

Oh, dug in, basilisk, vindicator, leman russ, predator, land raider you say... melta in the ass for you then..

And if that misses... melta bombs ftw.

Win.

Orthodox
17-10-2008, 13:08
The Hammerhead's Railgun has to be up there as well. Ridiculous range, S10 AP1, submunition option, and it can be guided by markerlights. Plus you're stucking it on the Hammerhead chassis, which is an amazing weapon platform.

bs4 and heavy1? ew. It kills one tank in three turns, and it costs 155 points

DarkFilth
17-10-2008, 14:50
Best weapon I've ever used is the Tau Railgun.

Slug shot
Range 72"
Str 10
AP 1
Heavy 1

The tank hammerhead verson can also fire a submunition shot

Range 72"
Str 6
AP 4
Heavy 1 Large Blast

Havock
17-10-2008, 16:29
The BOLTER is the best weapon in 40K.



Fact.

No. The combi-melta is.

Waywatcher-
17-10-2008, 16:32
'Are opinions facts now?'

Depends whos saying them.

I think weve forgotten the vulcan cannon......

Beat that.

Waywatcher

luchog
17-10-2008, 23:55
Meh. This thread is too predictable. "Best" doesn't have to mean "biggest and baddest" you know.

IMO the best weapon in the game is the Shokk Attack gun. Teleporting a psychotic snotling through Warpspace, to end up inside of someone's power armour, frantically chewing and clawing it's way out?

That is the best weapon in the game. :D

ETA: Crap, Frankye beat me to it.

Caiphas Cain
18-10-2008, 00:00
The lasgun, and faith in Him.

themandudeperson
18-10-2008, 00:25
Has anyone thought to mention dark eldar ravagers? equippable with a mix of 3 of either dark lances (str 8 ap 2) or disentigrators (str 7 ap 2, small blast or str 4 ap 3 heavy 3). That allows for a lot of mobile meq chewing power..

Alessander
18-10-2008, 01:42
Pulsar on an eldar Revenant/Scorpion. 2 shots, big blast, str D.

Shokk Attack Gun was better in the Rogue Trader days. There was a table specifically for a snotling appearing inside terminator armor!...

Shas'o Zor'bas
18-10-2008, 10:59
Plasma is my favourite, Railgun is my best and battlecannon my most feared.

I hope I answered everithing:p

Autarch_Celebrate
18-10-2008, 11:17
brightlance or fire prism or the wraithcannon

But my number one is the D-cannon

captain malachi
18-10-2008, 21:04
Hellblade, bloodletters baby!

drigler
18-10-2008, 21:25
Gotta go with close combat weapon.

Dark Primus
18-10-2008, 21:44
And other weapons I also tend to like are template weapons ignoring cover saves.

armeleth
18-10-2008, 21:52
i humbly agree