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Ganymene
06-11-2008, 11:33
Hello.

I want to start a project log to get myself motivated.

I decided to start Eldar for Fifth Edition. I wanted to learn a new army with the new edition. I have always loved the Eldar model range, and thought it would be a nice change of pace from Tyranids.

I have decided on a color scheme and painted up a few models, but not nearly as I would like (hence this thread).

The new paint scheme starts on the fourth page.

The core of my army will be consisting of Wraithguard and Wraithlords. But, eventually I hope to have every choice in the book painted up. I did this with my Tyranids and I enjoyed the flexibility of being able to make a completely different army every time I play.

It takes me a while to paint models so there will probably be many work-in-progress pictures to keep this thread alive.

Note: I am not a very good painter. (but I try dammit! :D)

I mostly enjoy building and playing with my models, but I love to look at a table and see a fully painted army.

Ganymene
06-11-2008, 11:33
Here is where I will be keeping track of my progress on this army. It is going to be a constantly growing army, so as I get new items, I will be adding them to the list. The units I am currently working on will be purple, so you can see what will probably be in my next update.

There are a lot of work-in-progress shots in this log. Because of this, it is getting long.

If you don't feel like searching for finished models, you can click on the red links below, and it will take you to the post with the finished models in it. :)





Key

Purple = Currently Working on
Yellow = Bought/Built/Ready to Prime
Orange = Primed/Started Painting
Red = Finished (Painted/Based/Varnished)



HQ

Wraithseer Vecna [Eldrad]
-Familiar (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4185273&postcount=704)

Avatar of Khaine (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4107546&postcount=642)

Kangaxx, High Autarch of Yirraith-Ra [Yriel]


Elites

Howling Banshees
-Wave Serpent

Fire Dragons
-Wave Serpent

Striking Scorpions (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4107548&postcount=644)

Troops

Wraithguard
-Spiritseer


Wraithguard [Unit 2]
-Spiritseer

Dire Avengers [Unit 1]
-Wave Serpent (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4107547&postcount=643)

Dire Avengers [Unit 2]
-Wave Serpent

[U]Fast Attack

Warp Spiders

Heavy Support

Wraithlord [Sword] (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4107549&postcount=645)

Wraithlord [Scythe] (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4107552&postcount=646)

Wraithlord [Claws]

Apocalypse

Farseer Ancient



Here is a shot of the up-to-date completed army. As I finish groups of models, I will update this picture.

This picture is from page 36.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/ArmyProgress05.jpg

Ganymene
06-11-2008, 11:34
Here is my workspace
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/IMG_0075.jpg


As I have seen among the other logs, I feel I should show off my pets.

Anubis
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Cat-Anubis.jpg

Horus
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Cat-Horus.jpg

Rugby
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Cat-Rugby.jpg


Yes, I have three cats. They are usually very interested in my modeling and painting, much yelling ensues.

Ganymene
06-11-2008, 11:35
And here is my first HQ choice.

This may give some validity to the title of my thread. This will be my Farseer Ancient, he will be an Apocalypse only model with special rules. The conversion took a while and I hope I didn't ruin it with the paint job. I am fairly satisfied with it at the moment, well, except for the base. I wanted to do craftworld type bases for the army, but that is going to have to wait until later.

Enough rambling.

Farseer Ancient.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Farseer02.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Farseer01.jpg

LION
06-11-2008, 11:54
:) I like the Tequila SunRise Paint scheme and the GhostFarseer Construct looks great! However, please kindly refrain from posting nameless "Cat Shots" in the future. Cats have more rights on WarSeer than than TeenAgers & must be given Names LION

Eater of Small Things
06-11-2008, 15:20
The Horus Hairball-sy! Sorry, couldn't resist. :P

The Wraithseer looks good, and no I don't think you ruined it with the paint job. I don't know much about Eldar, but is that a plastic or metal kit?

I think that color scheme will be nice to see on a whole army. Looking forward to seeing it develop.

Ganymene
06-11-2008, 23:21
I have started on some of the aspect warriors to kind of feel out the paint schemes for them. They will be painted to match everything else, as I like my armies to have a cohesive color scheme.


Here is the Banshee squad that is mostly done. I need to do details and such, but the color scheme is mostly fleshed out.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Banshee01.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Banshee03.jpg

Sorry if the pictures are a bit blurry, I am still trying to figure out how to use this camera.

Ganymene
06-11-2008, 23:24
I have started on the Fire Dragons and Warp Spiders also.

Fire Dragon Exarch. I love this model. It is a simple pose, yet says so much.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/FireDragonExarch02.jpg

A Fire Dragon

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/FireDragon01.jpg

Here is a work-in-progress Warp Spider. Most people seem to hate these models, but I think they are still very good.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/WarpSpider01.jpg

Ganymene
06-11-2008, 23:28
Okay, I have also started work on some of my Eldar zombies, the Wraithguard.

He still needs much detail work, but I figured I'd show what I've got so far.

Wraithguard

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/WraithGuard01.jpg

Side view

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/WraithGuard02.jpg

Here is their SpiritSeer. Not yet painted, but I did some conversion work to make her unique.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/SpiritSeer01.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/SpiritSeer02.jpg

Ganymene
06-11-2008, 23:38
:) I like the Tequila SunRise Paint scheme...

Thanks, the colors are showing up wierd in the pictures though. In real life, they are bright red at the bottom going to yellow at the top. It is hard to see the transition between the red and the orange in the pictures.



I don't know much about Eldar, but is that a plastic or metal kit?

I think that color scheme will be nice to see on a whole army. Looking forward to seeing it develop.

Thanks, I am trying to keep the whole army painted as close to each other as possible.

The Wraithlord kit is all plastic (and a fantastic kit). Which makes it infinitely easier to work with.

deathwing_marine
06-11-2008, 23:40
Cool color scheme! I did something similar with my Fire Dragon's Wave Serpent, except flames are running up only one side.
Looking forward to more :)

Malakai
07-11-2008, 03:36
The black is too flat. It would benefit from some highlights. Like the orange effect though.

-Malakai

Azriel45
07-11-2008, 03:38
WOW. that gradient color scheme is impressive. it looks fantastic. can't wait to see some more

Deus Ruinus
11-11-2008, 20:20
ooooooh! the colour scheme is looking swish! if you apply some wash over some of the details would come out very nice....but im still likening your work! ill be watching this thread!

Eskimo
11-11-2008, 22:59
I'm really loving those banshees! keep up the work!

Ganymene
12-11-2008, 18:59
Thanks everyone!

As far as highlighting and washing goes, I will be highlighting such things as the guns and anything with a complex shape. Anything with a predominately flat surface (such as the Wave Serpent or the swords) will remain flat black as I think it gives it the look of an exotic material instead of just metal. I have never tried washing anything, but I have seen some amazing results and I may try it out to see what happens.

I managed to get some painting done on my SpiritSeer. After looking at the pictures I can already see some spots that need touching up.


SpiritSeer
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/SpiritSeer03.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/SpiritSeer04.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/SpiritSeer05.jpg

Ganymene
12-11-2008, 19:06
Also, I thought I'd put this picture up, I took it yesterday as I'm still trying to perfect my picture taking techniques.

I think it is a better picture of my Farseer Ancient than the previous ones. It is a bit more clear and in the light box.

Seers
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Farseer03.jpg

Dweomer
13-11-2008, 17:31
Some nice looking work there. A few things:
1. http://fromthewarp.blogspot.com/2008/11/you-dont-need-fancy-camera.html#disqus_thread It's a re-host of weetoysoldier's excellent photgraphy tutorial. I recommend it to everyone.

2. Try out some washes. I think you'll be amazed at the results. It really does that extra bit to blend together your fades and pull out recess colors. I do find GW washes are a little thick though and you might want to thin them.

3. Got any WIP shots? I'm a compulsive modeller myself and always like looking at what people did before the paint goes on... I'm especially curious in how you did the tabard and cloak on the Wraithlord. Maybe with some better pics and all?

Good stuff and looking forward to seeing it progress!

Ganymene
14-11-2008, 10:54
Thanks for the link Dweomer. I downloaded Picasa and I will try it out next time I take some photos. :) Also, how did the jetbike contest go? There were some great entries, but I thought yours was awesome.

I have no work-in-progress shots, sadly. Most of the stuff I have was built months ago before the release of Fifth Edition (I had the army ready to play on day one), but I will start taking work-in-progress shots for any new stuff I do.

As for the cloak on the Wraithseer, I used a wire mesh (20 gauge, I think) in the shape of the cloak around the Wraithlord. I covered it with the thinnest plasticard I had, to get the basic shape. I then covered it with green stuff to give it some definition and shape. This was a pain to do, but I did not think the green stuff was strong enough to hold up by itself. The gold things on the front are just segmented green stuff strips. I tried making those with plasticard but failed.

The tabard is the standard Wraithlord tabard with a design made out of plasticard. The whole thing is one piece save the 'V' shape at the top. I added that later. The half sphere is a ball of green stuff cut in half.


I am currently painting two Wraithlords, so hopefully everyone will see photos of those this weekend or early next week.

Ganymene
19-11-2008, 01:17
I've got one of the Wraithlords mostly done and another on the way to being finished.

I love these models, but I think their size lends them to more static poses. Yes, I have seen many Wraithlords in dynamic poses. I have posed most of mine in 'at rest' positions (suffering from wraithsight no doubt) because, I just don't like the idea of a 30 foot construct sprinting across the battlefield.

Anyway, here are some pictures.

Wraithlord
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord01.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord02.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord03.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord04.jpg

I realize now, looking at the pictures, how HUGE the Wraithlords hands are.

Ganymene
19-11-2008, 01:19
Back
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord05.jpg




Here is a work-in-progress of the next one. Hopefully he will be finished this week.

Wraithlord
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/IMG_0124.jpg

Ganymene
20-11-2008, 10:25
Okay, not a huge update, but I did do some work on some bases.

I wanted to do a craftworld theme with the bases. So I won't have to change any of the monstrous creature bases as they are already semi-craftworld. The problem with this is that I will have to pop all of the models off of their bases to redo them.

I also put 40mm bases on the Wraithguard because I think they look much better.

Wraithguard on 40mm craftworld bases.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Bases01.jpg

I haven't decided if I am going to put rubble/dirt in the empty spaces I left or if I should put grass/foliage in there. Though I am leaning more towards grass. Or maybe I'll put in some sort of water effect to give it that temple look.

Alex_H
20-11-2008, 11:03
The models are looking good mate. I like the colour scheme, looks very unique.

Arsenal
20-11-2008, 12:59
This is a cool log - nice unique scheme. One suggestion: have you thought about highlighting the black? A nice sharp edge highlight would help give the models some definition

The_Dragon_Rising
20-11-2008, 16:15
Not of big fan of the first wraithlord, he seems, how do you say, dopey with the way the head is turned and the sword help backwards as if he doesnt know what to do with it- other than that though good job i like the colours.

Ganymene
29-11-2008, 09:10
The models are looking good mate. I like the colour scheme, looks very unique.

Thanks!


This is a cool log - nice unique scheme. One suggestion: have you thought about highlighting the black? A nice sharp edge highlight would help give the models some definition

Thanks. The black on any complex shapes (i.e. guns, cloaks, etc) will be highlighted, but the sword blades and Wave Serpents will remain flat black because I like how it looks like a futuristic material.


Not of big fan of the first wraithlord, he seems, how do you say, dopey with the way the head is turned and the sword help backwards as if he doesnt know what to do with it- other than that though good job i like the colours.

I think his pose is very Samurai-esque, but to each his own. :) Glad you like the colors.

Ganymene
04-12-2008, 23:57
Small update.

I've started working on something big (painting wise).

An Avatar!

I'm really trying to make him look like he is glowing from the inside out, rather than super hot all over. The pictures really pick out all of the flaws, but I like the effect so far.

Here's the feet and calves. If you step about 4-5 feet away from the screen, you can see more of what it looks like in real life.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar02.jpg

Here is some work on the torso and sword.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar03.jpg



I was also going to pick up some washes, but I'm not sure what color to get. It will be for shading the red/orange/yellow parts of all the models.

I was thinking purple, but I have never used them before and wanted to see if anyone had any advice.

Getifa Ubazza
05-12-2008, 01:15
Thats a really cool paint scheme. Your Avatar looks like it will be rather cool looking.

Col. Wales
05-12-2008, 06:55
Id say Red, not Purple

Azriel45
05-12-2008, 19:57
That "wraithScythe" is epic. And i expect excellent work on that Avatar.

rabbitt773
05-12-2008, 21:13
nice paint scheme

de Selby
05-12-2008, 21:25
Great stuff. I did a similar gradient fire dragon (inspired by scheme in WD?) a while back and I'm getting deja vu.

I really like the wraithlord holding his sword reversed.

kormas
07-12-2008, 07:51
loving this log, the colour scheme is brilliant, and the blending that you have must take ages to do!!, the only model i dont like is the wraithlord with the sword pointing backwards, if the torso, legs and the other army were repositioned it could turn it into an awsome pose, but thats just my opinion:D

anyway, loving the log and i expect to see some pics of that avatar finished!!:D

Battle_Magus
07-12-2008, 15:35
I like your scheme, but I think you need to do some shading and inking. You've chosen a really bold contrasting scheme, and it will look even more dynamic if you do some shading.

Lord of Nonsensical Crap
07-12-2008, 18:45
Excellent paint jobs! I am doing more or less the same colour scheme for my WIP Eldar (fiery theme with lots of blended yellow/orange/red), and coincidentially enough, my army will also be very wraith-themed. This might have been asked already, but what particular washes would you recommend to make the blending work better? Ie, which colour of blend has worked best for you?

matskye
08-12-2008, 11:11
The only thing i don't like is the sword pointing backwards, in a more dynamic pose it would look ace, but now it's just as if he doesn't know what to do with it. I'm eagerly awaiting to see your avatar finished.

Ganymene
08-12-2008, 23:54
Thats a really cool paint scheme. Your Avatar looks like it will be rather cool looking.


That "wraithScythe" is epic. And i expect excellent work on that Avatar.

Thanks! I have always thought scythes were awesome, but it took me some time to actually figure out how to make a Wraithlord sized one, but the answer turned out to be in the box the whole time. I hope the Avatar will look as cool as I think it will, but it is going to take some time.



nice paint scheme


Great stuff. I did a similar gradient fire dragon (inspired by scheme in WD?) a while back and I'm getting deja vu.

I really like the wraithlord holding his sword reversed.

Thanks! No, not inspired by WD, but the Fire Dragon scheme is the one the whole army is based upon. Originally I was going to do a 'fire' themed army with lots of Fire Dragons, The Avatar, and Feugan, but decided to expand out and have many more choices


loving this log, the colour scheme is brilliant, and the blending that you have must take ages to do!!, the only model i dont like is the wraithlord with the sword pointing backwards, if the torso, legs and the other army were repositioned it could turn it into an awsome pose, but thats just my opinion:D

anyway, loving the log and i expect to see some pics of that avatar finished!!:D

Thanks! The blending takes a while, but I love doing it so it doesn't bother me too much. The Wraithlord seems to be hit or miss with most people. I think it is a matter of perception and how you view his pose, but I do appreciate the honesty and I may do some more dynamically posed Wraithlords in the future. The Avatar will take some time, but I will be working on it soon.


I like your scheme, but I think you need to do some shading and inking. You've chosen a really bold contrasting scheme, and it will look even more dynamic if you do some shading.

Thanks! I have started to do some highlighting, but I'm having a hard time getting it to come out in the photos. I picked up a bunch of different washes for shading and I have started experimenting with them until I'm sure of what I'm doing.


Excellent paint jobs! I am doing more or less the same colour scheme for my WIP Eldar (fiery theme with lots of blended yellow/orange/red), and coincidentially enough, my army will also be very wraith-themed. This might have been asked already, but what particular washes would you recommend to make the blending work better? Ie, which colour of blend has worked best for you?

Thanks! Will you be starting a log? I always love to see more Eldar.

I actually haven't used any washes yet. I have just blended Blood Red into Fiery Orange into Sunburst Yellow. Watering down the paints about 50/50 to get a few thin layers over a white under coat works great. I just take my time and paint enough coats to get the job done.


The only thing i don't like is the sword pointing backwards, in a more dynamic pose it would look ace, but now it's just as if he doesn't know what to do with it. I'm eagerly awaiting to see your avatar finished.

Some people love it, some people hate it, but I'm glad you like everything else. I will be working on The Avatar, but it will take some time. I will post some more work-in-progress shots as I get him painted.



I've got final exams this week. The good news is I had my hardest one today, so i will have some updates soon. I am hoping to have a completely finished model within the next couple days (based and everything) to show off, as well as some more work-in-progress models later this week.

Lord of Nonsensical Crap
09-12-2008, 21:58
Thanks! Will you be starting a log? I always love to see more Eldar.

I actually haven't used any washes yet. I have just blended Blood Red into Fiery Orange into Sunburst Yellow. Watering down the paints about 50/50 to get a few thin layers over a white under coat works great. I just take my time and paint enough coats to get the job done.

Possibly, though it will probably be in an all-purpose log. My own efforts have already churned up something like this:

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t227/LoNCman/Photo-0003.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t227/LoNCman/Photo-0004.jpg

(Note: the Spiritseer wasn't painted by me)

Ganymene
09-12-2008, 23:14
They look great (although the pics are a bit blurry).

My original scheme was almost exactly like that, with the yellow on each individual part of the model, but I changed it after the test model took forever.

Ganymene
12-12-2008, 19:59
Greetings all, finals are over and I've got an update.

I finished the second Wraithlord (finally). I will be starting on the third one soon.

Pictures! :waves hand:

Wraithlord
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord11.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord12.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord15.jpg

Ganymene
12-12-2008, 20:01
I assure you he is highlighted. It's just very hard for me to get a good picture of the highlights.

Here are some pictures of the first Wraithlord with his highlights.

Wraithlord
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord07.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord09.jpg

Ganymene
12-12-2008, 20:04
And finally here is some pictures of the two Wraithlords together.

Family Portrait
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord16.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord17.jpg

I will be getting some more work-in-progress shots up soon. As well as more shots of The Avatar as I get some more done on him. As I said earlier I will soon have some fully based models as I went to the store and purchased basing materials to work with.

Ganymene
19-12-2008, 07:29
Ooh, Page 12. That probably means I should be working on more stuff.

Well I did something, nothing big, but I've finished most of the painting on my Wraithseer. I have yet to base him, but I think that will be next as the only thing I have left to do is more blending of the cloak highlights. I thought I had done enough of this...until I looked at the model under natural light (and took pictures of him).

The black has very subtle purple highlights. They can be seen in the pictures if you look hard enough, but in real life they give off a purple sheen at certain angles that I rather enjoy.

Here, have a look.

Farseer Ancient
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Farseer04.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Farseer05.jpg

squadexodus
19-12-2008, 23:28
Great color blending and such! I'm glad you didn't just put a flat coat of paint on those beasts, they deserve better.

Ganymene
20-12-2008, 06:14
Great color blending and such! I'm glad you didn't just put a flat coat of paint on those beasts, they deserve better.

Thanks! I tried out a few color schemes on the Wraithlords before I settled on this one. The first couple were solid colors for the head and other parts, but it turned out too plain.

As feathering and blending is about the only technique i can do, I decided to run with it. I went with the current scheme and liked what I saw.

I also was skeptical about highlighting the black. I think it is very hard to do highlights on black (I'm not very adept at highlighting), so I went with a color that would not be extreme, but subtle. I tried purple and liked the effect it gave.

squadexodus
20-12-2008, 19:48
I wish I could feather/blend. But the concept always seems to evade my grasp...

Ganymene
20-12-2008, 21:45
I wish I could feather/blend. But the concept always seems to evade my grasp...

I just practiced until I got it right. Don't get discouraged if it doesn't work correctly at first. I am by no means a great painter (shaky hands), but I try to take my time and try not to get frustrated. I have had to re-spray many models because I messed up a paint job.

Here are a couple articles I found helpful: Blending (http://www.coolminiornot.com/article/aid/58/page/1) and Feathering (http://www.coolminiornot.com/article/aid/273/page/1).

squadexodus
21-12-2008, 01:26
I saw the blending article. But when I do it, the colors seem to just blend so much that its just one flat color on the shoulder pad...

Azriel45
21-12-2008, 05:29
Blending on small areas takes a little getting used to.
BrushThralls.com has quite a large number of articles on the subject.

Ganymene
21-12-2008, 07:20
I saw the blending article. But when I do it, the colors seem to just blend so much that its just one flat color on the shoulder pad...

Check out the WarSeer Painting Support Group (http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13). You can post pictures and ask for criticism or just for general help with techniques. There are some very experienced painters here that can help a lot.



Blending on small areas takes a little getting used to.
BrushThralls.com has quite a large number of articles on the subject.

There are some great articles on that site. Very informative and easy to read.

Arsenal
21-12-2008, 10:20
Any progress on that Avatar ganymede? He was looking great. Love the shot of the two wraithlords together as well. What are your plans for the bases?

Ganymene
21-12-2008, 22:43
Any progress on that Avatar ganymede? He was looking great. Love the shot of the two wraithlords together as well. What are your plans for the bases?

Thanks! I am going to be working on the Avatar next. I want to finish him before I start on any more of the infantry. I am taking my time as I want the paint job to be exactly how I picture it in my head. I will post some work-in-progress shots when I make some progress on him.

I am doing craftworld bases for the whole army. This means I have to pop some of the figures off of their bases. I am currently stuck on what color to paint the bases though. White seems too bright, but I may just give them a wash of some kind to shade the it. They will not be entirely white, as I imagine craftworld have agriculture and decorative foliage (such as plants and grass) as well as some pools of water. I have the grass for the bases, but need to pick up some water effects and experiment with it before I try to base with it.

Ganymene
27-12-2008, 07:53
I've got another small update this time. I picked up a Wraithlord to complete my trio of close combat constructs.

I wanted all three to have different weapons to represent what they may have used when they were alive. I have always liked Lightning Claws, but Eldar cannot get them. Well, this guy got some.

I took a pair of claws from the Chaos Terminator Lord set and cut them up a little. I really think the actual claws fit very well with the Eldar style. The hands...not so much. I sanded down the mechanical looking parts and smoothed over them (although I am going to add another layer of green stuff) to make them look more Eldritch. I added some knuckles to break up the smooth surface, but they need to be touched up as well (damn pictures showing me all the flaws).

His pose, like the other two is static. I know many people don't like static poses, but they are all busy surveying the battlefield, and this one is no exception. Here he is...

Wraithlord
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord18.jpg

Green stuff work (needs to be cleaned up)
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord19.jpg



I have also done some work on the Avatar. I have laid down the black, but didn't take any pictures because he looks like crap right now. When I get some of the color down I will take some work-in-progress shots.

Gacktite
30-12-2008, 01:24
I love this log. The new Wraithlord is probably my favorite model in the current 40k line. Now they just need some plastic Wraithguard... I'd rather not have to pay $150 for 10 models.

I've been thinking about doing something similar with the sword on my Wraithlord. He is currently in a dynamic pose with some magnetized bits, but I really like holding the sword upside down. Also, would you mind giving us a brief description of how you made the scythe?

Azriel45
30-12-2008, 02:20
i dub it the "maul your face off" lord. sweet idea.

Ganymene
31-12-2008, 22:44
I love this log. The new Wraithlord is probably my favorite model in the current 40k line. Now they just need some plastic Wraithguard... I'd rather not have to pay $150 for 10 models.

I've been thinking about doing something similar with the sword on my Wraithlord. He is currently in a dynamic pose with some magnetized bits, but I really like holding the sword upside down. Also, would you mind giving us a brief description of how you made the scythe?

Thanks, Gacktite. The plastic Wraithlord is my favorite model as well. The best way to get cheap Wraithguard is on eBay or through a discount online retailer. Depending on what online store, they can range anywhere from $10-$12 (US). For eBay, I've gotten them for as cheap as $8 each.

As for the Scythelord, I took (all from the Wraithlord kit) the Wraithsword, a Bright Lance, and the very back of the Starcannon (that piece is the spherical part at the bottom of the scythe's shaft) and cut them into the pieces you see. The shaft is hollow plastic tubing with pinning wire inside for strength. Originally he was holding the scythe with both hands across his body, but it just didn't look quite right. I popped his hands off and stood the scythe up straight. I couldn't get his left arm off without tearing the plastic, so I gave him the clenched fist. I liked the look of it, so I didn't have to break anything. :)



i dub it the "maul your face off" lord. sweet idea.

Nice. I wanted all my (close combat) Wraithlords to have different weapons. After the sword and scythe, I was going to do a one-handed ax out of plasticard (sort of like Fuegan's Fire Ax). I was painting one day and saw the Chaos Lord box I had bought when the codex came out (great kit, and I love building any complex plastic models). I held the Lightning Claws up to the Wraithlord to see what the proportions were like. They were perfect. I went and popped the Lightning Claws off Mr. Terminator and cut them up to form the talon hands for the third Wraithlord. Lots of sanding and (still need to do more) green stuff to make them more Eldar-y.



Still working on the Avatar, but I am making progress (the holidays are keeping me busy). I have an idea to make him a little different from other Avatars, but I need to practice on something before I apply it to the Avatar. I will (hopefully) have some more pictures sometime next week.

xedric
31-12-2008, 23:28
I really like your painting style and color theme. Also neat conversions on the WLs. You dont happen to have any WIP photos of the Wraithseer? Id love to get a look at how its all done.

Now some crit. The only thing Id suggest is to bend the knees on the WLs. Doesnt have to be anything ubber fancy just bending the knees a little does a huge difference to the overall feel of the model. It goes from dead/stiff to alive and in the fight.

And btw. The claw WL is awesome. Ill have to do a WL like that one day :P

ManusMarines
02-01-2009, 01:14
Figure I'd bump it for you.

I can vouch that the paint scheme looks better in real life, and there is just something overbearing seeing a giant wraithlord w/ scary psychic powers marching alongside Wraithguard.

If you're painting your army, guess I should get back on mine...haha

Ganymene
02-01-2009, 10:02
I really like your painting style and color theme. Also neat conversions on the WLs. You dont happen to have any WIP photos of the Wraithseer? Id love to get a look at how its all done.

Now some crit. The only thing Id suggest is to bend the knees on the WLs. Doesnt have to be anything ubber fancy just bending the knees a little does a huge difference to the overall feel of the model. It goes from dead/stiff to alive and in the fight.

And btw. The claw WL is awesome. Ill have to do a WL like that one day :P

Thanks! Sorry, no progress shots of the Wraithseer. I did him before I had access to a camera. I will be doing plenty more Wraithlords, so if I do anything significant I will be sure to take some pictures.

Future Wraithlords will most likely have some more dynamic poses (i.e. kneeling, stepping on things, twisting, etc). For these guys, I wanted to give them relaxed poses. I don't know why, I just thought they should be at rest.



I can vouch that the paint scheme looks better in real life, and there is just something overbearing seeing a giant wraithlord w/ scary psychic powers marching alongside Wraithguard.

If you're painting your army, guess I should get back on mine...haha


Thanks, and yes, overbearing until a Nob with 15 wounds and a Powerklaw show up. :mad:

You should definitely start a log to show off your apocalyptic size Marines and the currently growing greenskin horde (especially for when the Stompas make an appearance).

ManusMarines
02-01-2009, 15:28
You should definitely start a log to show off your apocalyptic size Marines and the currently growing greenskin horde (especially for when the Stompas make an appearance).

Psh...it was only 13 wounds. ;)

I'll start my Marine/Ork/Guard general log once I find where I misplaced my camera a few days ago.

Mmmm....Stompas

Ganymene
12-01-2009, 08:04
Greetings everyone. Small update (picture-wise).

I have finally decided on the paint scheme for the Wraithguard. After painting up the Wraithlords, I really thought the Wraithguard should look more like their larger brethren. I went with the same basic style as the 'lords, and I really liked what I saw. I have finished one, the only problem is that it took about five hours to paint.

So, one down...nineteen to go. Here's some pictures my first finished Wraithguard. Also, he is highlighted with Liche Purple, which is hard to see in the pictures.



Wraithguard
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard03.jpg

Side View
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard04.jpg

Alternate Angle
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard05.jpg

And here's a picture with one of his big brothers.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard06.jpg



For those of you waiting for progress on the Avatar, I am working on him, but he still looks like crap at this point. So, no pictures just yet...but soon!




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Tehkonrad
12-01-2009, 08:30
that is so *********** cool it deserves its own crowd of civilians (to run in terror on cue). Whats the background for this flaming horde?

Ganymene
13-01-2009, 07:19
that is so *********** cool it deserves its own crowd of civilians (to run in terror on cue). Whats the background for this flaming horde?

Thanks!

I don't really have any background written for the army.

But, I did know when I started this army it would be heavily Wraith-themed. I love the Iyanden style of warfare(although not by their choice), but I wasn't a big fan of the Iyanden color scheme. I was originally going to feature many Wraiths and lots of Fire Dragons, this led to the fiery colors. After I bought my first Wraithlord I was hooked. That kit is so amazing. Eventually I plan to have one Wraithlord designed after each Eldar Aspect (haven't figured out how to do Shining Spears yet) for Apocalypse games.

If I get some time, I may eventually write some true background for this army, but I really need to think about it for a while. When I get around to designing the Apocalypse datasheets, I'll be writing some stuff to justify the unit configurations.

Tehkonrad
13-01-2009, 09:12
Awesome, way, way awesome

ManusMarines
15-01-2009, 17:21
Oh, that's right. They are on bigger bases now. That just means they'll take up an even larger footprint on the table. Perhaps it's time for some more looted wagons :p

Seriously though, they look more appropriate on the bigger bases.

Ganymene
16-01-2009, 02:26
Awesome, way, way awesome

Thanks, I definitely have to agree with you. :D



Seriously though, they look more appropriate on the bigger bases.

Yep. They are about the same size as Terminators, and they look huge on those tiny bases. I think it actually makes them much more imposing on the table on the 40mm bases.

Ganymene
23-01-2009, 01:53
Another small update picture-wise, but a huge development in the progress of this army.

I have decided on a color to paint my bases!

This has been killing me for a while now. I have tried at least 25-30 different color combinations and hated every single one. But, I was in the art supply store the other day and saw a small display of artist's inks with some interesting properties, pearlescence. I went back today and picked up some pearlescent white ink to cover the bases with. I tried it out and I think it looks sweet.

It doesn't translate well through the pictures, but you can see a little of the reflective properties of the ink over the white. As you move around the model, the base changes color and reveals a whole range of different shades hidden in the surface.

I think this represents how raw wraithbone would look in person.

Here's some pictures of the base, with the pearlescent white over skull white/bleached bone. It mostly looks like white in the photos, but I didn't want to update without any pictures.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Base01.jpg

In this picture, you can just barely make out the reflection of the Wraithguard in the white of the base.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Base02.jpg

This one just what the whole model looks like with the base (and what I need to touch up).
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Base03.jpg


More painting tonight, so maybe another update later if I can get a significant amount done.

Ganymene
23-01-2009, 08:35
Hey look, two updates in one day.

Did a little work on the third Wraithlord. I did the basic color work and some blending and drybrushing. Far from finished, but it is progress.

Wraithlord
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord20.jpg

Side
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord21.jpg



Hopefully I'll have him finished sometime early next week.

And now that I've chosen the color for the bases, maybe even a completely painted and based model too.

Ganymene
05-02-2009, 08:52
Okay, let's try this again (Warseer ate my first post).

I haven't gotten any painting done because I'm considering changing my color scheme. The basic colors will remain the same, but instead of going from bottom to top, the colors will be going from the inside out. I will get a test miniature painted up so I can post it and see what everyone thinks. After that, I will decide whether to keep the current scheme or change to the new one.


I have been trying to get an Autarch model for a while now. All the game stores around here claim that it is out of production and say they cannot get one. I don't know what's going on, but that model is only three years old, and the only source of some of those parts. Anyway, I picked up a Yriel model and figured I'd base an Autarch on him for now. I like the model, but there are some things that needed to be changed. First off, I hate bare heads (I cannot paint them very well), second, he has a Tyranid themed base.


So, to make my own 'counts as' Yriel I chopped his head off, cut up his 'base', replaced his left arm, and changed his backpack. The head is from a Dire Avenger Exarch (complete with Eye of Wrath), as is his left arm. The Shimmershield will be his Forceshield because I think it looks cooler. His backpack is the original with the banners cut off and replaced with arm blades from a Wraithlord.

The conversion is mostly finished except for a few mold lines, and a little tiny bit of green stuff work on his backpack. I am also going to clean up the eye a little more.

Here he is: Autarch Kangaxx (anyone know where I'm getting these names?)


Kangaxx
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Autarch01.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Autarch02.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Autarch03.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Autarch04.jpg

Ganymene
05-02-2009, 08:54
Here are couple more pictures, close up and different angles.


Autarch Kangaxx
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Autarch05.jpg

Back
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Autarch06.jpg

Valharik
05-02-2009, 09:18
Cool! i love your style and the scheme you use. Brilliant. It makes your eldar looks so mighty.

And the names inspiration...from Baldurs Gate 2, maybe? and i think Kangaxx was a lich, right? :P

Ganymene
05-02-2009, 09:46
Cool! i love your style and the scheme you use. Brilliant. It makes your eldar looks so mighty.


Thanks! I may be changing the layout of the colors, but the red/orange/yellow will remain the same.



And the names inspiration...from Baldurs Gate 2, maybe? and i think Kangaxx was a lich, right? :P

You are correct, and a +1 to you sir. :D

Ganymene
10-02-2009, 08:19
Good (insert time of day here) everyone!

I was thinking about changing up the color scheme a little bit. I decided to keep the Wraith units the same pattern and just change the Aspect Warriors scheme. This is not too much of a problem because the Aspect Warriors are mostly unpainted, except for the Banshees (but they weren't finished anyway, so it's no big deal).

I painted up one Dire Avenger to test it out. It is not completely decided, but I really like it. I may change the color of the shoulder pads and the pectoral plates, but I'm not sure yet. He needs a few minor touch-ups, but for the most part the tester is done.

What does everyone think of the new style for the Aspect Warriors?


Dire Avenger
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger05.jpg

Ganymene
10-02-2009, 08:20
Here are a few more pictures of the Dire Avenger.


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger04.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger03.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger02.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger01.jpg

Radium
10-02-2009, 09:14
I would give each aspect a portion of the aspect colour. So white helmets for avengers, some bone armour plates (maybe the helm) for banshees etc.
You know, just to break up the orange a bit, and add a bit more colour to the army.

Azriel45
10-02-2009, 15:44
I would give each aspect a portion of the aspect colour. So white helmets for avengers, some bone armour plates (maybe the helm) for banshees etc.
You know, just to break up the orange a bit, and add a bit more colour to the army.

Agreed. Also, great work as always, mate.

Ganymene
10-02-2009, 21:15
Agreed. Also, great work as always, mate.

Thanks! I'm going to try get more frequent updates in, but who knows how that's going to go.



I would give each aspect a portion of the aspect colour. So white helmets for avengers, some bone armour plates (maybe the helm) for banshees etc.
You know, just to break up the orange a bit, and add a bit more colour to the army.

Thanks for the input Radium. Now that I've had some time to look him over (I took the pictures immediately after I finished him), I definitely think the orange needs to be broken up. I was trying to avoid the traditional aspect colors, but I think I may try out the different temple colors on their shoulder pads. The only thing I'm worried about is how they are all going to look with the orange.

Ganymene
11-02-2009, 08:07
Okay, small update.

I painted the shoulder pads on the Dire Avenger in an attempt to break up all that orange. I was going to do the Aspect colors for one shoulder pad (which I thought would look awesome on the Dire Avenger), but when I looked at all the Aspect colors, I didn't like the way most of them would look with the bright orange.

I painted the shoulder pads black with purple highlights. Ignore the gold all over the gun, I forgot to clean it up before I took the picture.


Dire Avenger
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger06.jpg

Ganymene
11-02-2009, 08:12
Now for the large update.

I finally started painting the Avatar. I scrapped my original scheme because I could not pull that effect off on the whole model. I have re-painted him at least four times, but this time I felt like I knew what I was doing.

After the first few hours, I thought I was going to have to start all over. I then thought that I should just make him look like the rest of the army, while still retaining his 'burning' theme.

Well, here is my progress on the (headless) Avatar.


Avatar of Khaine
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar04.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar05.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar06.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar07.jpg



I am going to try to get him finished by the end of this week. Don't know if I will or not, but I'm going to try. :)

Morthai
11-02-2009, 11:01
I like your color scheme. However it’s a pity you don’t highlight black (or so it seems judging from the pictures) as it looks dull in comparison to fiery areas.

IMHO dire avenger looks fine as it is, I’d just use mix of yellow/orange to stress armor edges.

spekkiebig
11-02-2009, 11:45
Nice conversion work Ganymene. I also like the colourscheme although i agree with Radium in that you should incorperate some more colours for the different aspects. Keep up the good work!

Elazar The Glorified
11-02-2009, 12:42
You've got a stunning looking army there. Your blending is brilliant. Can't believe your log only has a 3 star rating. I'll do my best to correct that. Really like the Autarch conversion and the avatar looks very promising so far!

Azriel45
11-02-2009, 15:46
w00t, avatar. He looks to be coming along amazingly. Oh, and it's brilliant how just painting the shoulders on that Avenger made it look strikingly different. Or that could just be me going crazy.

Ganymene
11-02-2009, 16:51
I like your color scheme. However its a pity you dont highlight black (or so it seems judging from the pictures) as it looks dull in comparison to fiery areas.

IMHO dire avenger looks fine as it is, Id just use mix of yellow/orange to stress armor edges.

Glad you like the color scheme. The black is highlighted with purple, and it is very difficult to see in the pictures. In real life the purple gives off a subtle glow as you look at different part of the model. I've tried to take pictures that show it off, but I can't seem to get it to work.



Nice conversion work Ganymene. I also like the colourscheme although i agree with Radium in that you should incorperate some more colours for the different aspects. Keep up the good work!

Thanks! I thought it over for a while, but in the end decided against the Aspect colors because of the orange. I like the idea of the different Aspect squads keeping the original temple colors on at least some part of the models, but I do not think the colors of the armor will mesh well with the Aspect colors on most of the models.

I still may go back and paint a small part of the model that way, but until I think I can make it look good, it'll have to wait.



You've got a stunning looking army there. Your blending is brilliant. Can't believe your log only has a 3 star rating. I'll do my best to correct that. Really like the Autarch conversion and the avatar looks very promising so far!

Thanks Elazar, I appreciate the good rating, someone gave me a one star rating early in the log.

I'm hoping to have more done on the Avatar this week and I may paint the Autarch as well. Now that I've started painting the Avatar, I want to get him finished (not let him sit unpainted for a month).



w00t, avatar. He looks to be coming along amazingly. Oh, and it's brilliant how just painting the shoulders on that Avenger made it look strikingly different. Or that could just be me going crazy.

Thanks, I'm pretty happy with the way he is coming along. Mostly I'm happy that I finally found a way to paint him that I like. He still needs a lot of work, but most of the tedious stuff is finished, and I can begin on the head and sword after I finish the hands and clean up the body a little. I agree that painting the shoulder pads on the Dire Avenger made a huge difference.

Ganymene
12-02-2009, 08:13
I did a little more work on the Avatar.

I laid down some gold on the body because I haven't figured out what I'm going to do with the sword yet. I also painted and glued the tabard down. Nothing huge, but I think it adds a lot to the model. I also painted the right hand, I'm not finished with it (it looks a little strange), but I shouldn't have too much more work to do on it.

Here's some pictures.


Avatar of Khaine
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar08.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar09.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar10.jpg


There are purple highlights all over the model, they're very difficult to see though. There are none on the actual burning parts, but his feet, his armor, and his tabard all have the purple on their edges/interiors.

But I assure you, the black is highlighted.

Ganymene
17-02-2009, 10:47
Another small update.

The main reason for this update is that a friend of mine requested that I post some larger (closer) pictures of the work-in-progress Avatar.

I have mostly finished the gold on the armor (I still need to catch a few more edges before I call it complete) and have started to work on the sword. I am going to keep the sword black with some highlights and to-be-determined details. I was originally going to do a 'hot' sword, but I want the skin and face to be the focus of the model and I think that a flaming sword would distract from them. I am not 100% sure how I am going to paint the sword, but I am milling it over in my head.

Here's some larger pictures of the Avatar.


Avatar of Khaine
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar11.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar12.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar13.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar14.jpg




Hopefully I can get the sword finished, and begin working on the head this week. More updates in a few days. :)

spekkiebig
17-02-2009, 11:37
Your Avatar is comming along nicely Ganymene. I'n curious how it will look once finished. Are you going to pant the gem's on him or are you going to leave them gold? Maybe painting the gems on your models will help breaking up the surfaces on the models? Keep up the good work!

ManusMarines
18-02-2009, 03:04
MOAR!

I love how it looks like his skin is simply pieces of black earth floating on lava.

Can't wait to kill it..err, face it! :evilgrin:

Ganymene
18-02-2009, 06:45
Your Avatar is comming along nicely Ganymene. I'n curious how it will look once finished. Are you going to pant the gem's on him or are you going to leave them gold? Maybe painting the gems on your models will help breaking up the surfaces on the models? Keep up the good work!

Thanks, I'm really excited to get him fully painted. As for the gems, I was debating whether or not to paint all the gems on his body (I don't have a lot of patience for painting). Seeing as this is a centerpiece model, I am probably going to give it a try. I finally figured out how to get the gems to look like gems, so I will probably take the time paint them all on the Avatar. I will probably only paint one gem (the waystone) on each of the Aspect Warriors, but I haven't started on them yet so I am not 100% sure.



MOAR!

I love how it looks like his skin is simply pieces of black earth floating on lava.

Can't wait to kill it..err, face it! :evilgrin:

Thanks. That's exactly what I was going for. I wanted a "dark" Avatar, and seeing as my first (four) paint scheme(s) didn't turn out as I planned, I am happy that I finally found one that I like and can paint fairly competently. The "bright" Avatar would have turned out mostly yellow/orange and that is not what I wanted, so I went with the pieces-of-rock-floating-on-lava style.

Azriel45
18-02-2009, 18:02
So is the Black staying Black, or are you planning on making it look like hot iron?

Ganymene
18-02-2009, 19:32
So is the Black staying Black, or are you planning on making it look like hot iron?

I actually have not made the final decision on that one yet. I have been considering this since I ordered him. I like the black a lot, that's the reason I haven't tried the burning iron effect out. I did mix up some mithril silver/chaos black and shining gold/chaos black to see what they would look like. It has an interesting effect, but I don't know how it will look over the entire model. I may also try a blend from the inside of the black (body) parts to the outside using some sort of metallic paint.

If I do decide to try this out, it will not be until most of the model is completed, so I can get a 'before and after' look at it and base my decision on that.

Ganymene
21-02-2009, 08:43
One small update before the weekend.

I have finished the sword for the most part and have begun working on the head. The sword isn't anything groundbreaking, just black and gold with purple highlights. I didn't take any pictures of the sword because, well, I forgot. But, I did take some pictures of his head. I started on the cheeks and the "antlers". The antlers are the Craftworld's colors, so they are a blend from blood red, to blazing orange, to sunburst yellow. His face will be mostly like the rest of the body with the helmet being like the rest of his armor.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar17.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar16.jpg



When I get the head fully painted, I may change the color on the antlers. I'm not sure how the red/orange/yellow is going to look on there with all the other stuff. I guess I'll just have to wait until it's finished.

Elazar The Glorified
21-02-2009, 09:09
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Your blending is absolutely brilliant. I reckon the antlers will still look great when you've finished painting the rest of the head. Looking forward to seeing this big guy finished. Is your Autarch next to get painted?

that_other_guy456
21-02-2009, 20:41
yo ur wraithlords are lookin pretty spiff man!! keep it up! :D

ManusMarines
22-02-2009, 06:50
The way the Avatar's head is posed on that wire makes it look like some messed up evil snake.

MOAR.

Ganymene
22-02-2009, 22:27
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Your blending is absolutely brilliant. I reckon the antlers will still look great when you've finished painting the rest of the head. Looking forward to seeing this big guy finished. Is your Autarch next to get painted?

Thanks! I think the blending on the antlers is the best I've done so far. I tried a different (more elaborate) style for them. Instead of going red to orange to yellow, I did red, orange, red, yellow, orange, red. So in essence it was a feather followed by a reverse feather. It took quite a while longer, but I think it yielded a far better result. I will probably go back and use this technique on the Wraithlords to get a smoother blend.

As far as painting schedules, I am going to finish the Avatar completely (paint, base, varnish), then move onto the Wraithguard. Once the Wraithguard are completely finished I will probably do the Autarch. I want to start having an actual plan for painting units, rather than jumping around and not really finishing anything.



yo ur wraithlords are lookin pretty spiff man!! keep it up! :D

Thanks! Once I get most of the basic units done, I will start working on some Apocalypse stuff. That means plenty more Wraithlords to build and convert (at least one for every aspect).


MOAR.

Don't worry. As long as GW is making these beautiful models, there will always be more. Always. :D

Dezmord
22-02-2009, 23:04
Briliiant blending on the avatars helmet. I wonder why it took me so long to find this log...?

Ganymene
23-02-2009, 19:01
Briliiant blending on the avatars helmet. I wonder why it took me so long to find this log...?

Thanks Dezmord. I really enjoyed your Thousand Sons log.

I'm glad my humble log attracted a painter of your caliber. :)

Ganymene
26-02-2009, 10:06
Time for another update.

I added an army status chart in the second post on the first page, so if anyone wants to see where the army stands at this point, they may. And you guessed it, nothing is completely finished yet.

I did some more work on the Avatar tonight, everything is done on the model except for the gems. And as per spekkiebig's suggestion, I am going to be painting all the gems on his body. That should take a little while, but not too long I hope.

Here is a picture of his head.

Closeup of face
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar18.jpg

EDIT: Now that I look at his face, his mouth is much darker inside then I thought. I will definitely be brightening that up a lot.

Continued in next post...

Ganymene
26-02-2009, 10:07
Here are some pictures of him complete with attached head (although it isn't glued on yet for ease of painting gems).

Avatar of Khaine
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar19.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar20.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar21.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar22.jpg



I am going to try to get the gems done as soon as possible so that I can do the final touch-ups, finish his base, and varnish him.

whitewookiee
26-02-2009, 12:02
looking well good i like the wrath lords ......sweeet...... i love the scyth aswell looks like one hell of a body gaurd keep it up. what about tanks?

Azriel45
26-02-2009, 17:16
Gany, ... you're a beast. That Avatar is brilliant.

Morthai
26-02-2009, 18:16
Finally, I can see purple highlights on those avatar close ups. IMHO all your models would look even better with stronger highlights on black area but that just me ;). Nevertheless, avatar looks really great.

spekkiebig
26-02-2009, 18:29
And as per spekkiebig's suggestion, I am going to be painting all the gems on his body. That should take a little while, but not too long I hope.

I'm glad to have made a usefull contribution to your log Ganymene (normally nobody at the club actualy listens to what i have to say about their painting :D). I believe your Avatar will look quite spectacular when finished with all those shiny gems. Don't keep us waiting to long for the results!

ManusMarines
26-02-2009, 19:50
:eek:

Why? Why do you have to paint a model epically? Now I have to counter by trying to make my BikeBoss perfect. Grrr...

Seriously though, can't wait to see that in person. It looks amazing.

EDIT: Since it would be a basic color application for the army, why not mix up a 75:25 mix of Liche Purple and Skull White? It would probably create more visible and distinct highlights.

Ganymene
27-02-2009, 02:53
looking well good i like the wrath lords ......sweeet...... i love the scyth aswell looks like one hell of a body gaurd keep it up. what about tanks?

Thanks! The Wraithlord with the scythe is my favorite. I do have some Wave Serpents, but I am changing the paint scheme on them to match the Aspect Warriors. After I finish the Avatar I will probably paint one to show how they are all going to be.


Gany, ... you're a beast. That Avatar is brilliant.

Thanks! Hopefully I will have him completely finished by next week.


Finally, I can see purple highlights on those avatar close ups. IMHO all your models would look even better with stronger highlights on black area but that just me ;). Nevertheless, avatar looks really great.

Thanks! Glad you like the Avatar. I think I am going to keep the purple the way it is. It is hard to see in the pictures, but in real life the purple gives it a 'glow' as you move around the model. I wish I could take pictures of this glow to show everyone what I mean, but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.


I'm glad to have made a usefull contribution to your log Ganymene (normally nobody at the club actualy listens to what i have to say about their painting :D). I believe your Avatar will look quite spectacular when finished with all those shiny gems. Don't keep us waiting to long for the results!

Thanks, I'm glad you suggested that spekkiebig. I originally wasn't going to do the gems, but now I'm glad I took your advice. I am planning to have The Avatar finished, gems and all, sometime next week.


:eek:

Why? Why do you have to paint a model epically? Now I have to counter by trying to make my BikeBoss perfect. Grrr...

Seriously though, can't wait to see that in person. It looks amazing.

EDIT: Since it would be a basic color application for the army, why not mix up a 75:25 mix of Liche Purple and Skull White? It would probably create more visible and distinct highlights.

Thanks! I am definitely looking forward to seeing the Biker Boss all built and painted. As far as the lighter shade of purple goes, I like the way the subtle dark purple highlights looks on the black of the models. I want to keep it as an obvious black that gives off a slight glow in certain lights.

Ganymene
03-03-2009, 06:52
I have finally finished painting the Avatar. I painted up all the gems earlier and attached the head. The only thing left to do is look over it one more time to look for any areas that need to be touched up. Then I can base and varnish him.

The gems took forever to paint, but I'm glad I took the time to paint them all. I really like how they came out. Anyway here are the finished photos. I tried to light up his face so that the mouth isn't in shadow, but it didn't work out too well.


Avatar of Khaine
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar23.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar24.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar25.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar26.jpg


I'll probably be basing him in a couple days, then I can start on the troops.

spekkiebig
03-03-2009, 07:10
The Avatar looks great! I think you've made the right choice on those gems and they look very nice.

Ganymene
03-03-2009, 07:41
The Avatar looks great! I think you've made the right choice on those gems and they look very nice.

Thanks! I definitely think the gems add another layer off depth to the Avatar. Making his decorations more complex adds a lot to the model.

Plus, I really enjoyed painting him. I usually hate painting, but I had a really good time painting the Avatar.

Dezmord
03-03-2009, 20:22
Great paintjob! The black and red-orange-yellows truly look like molten rock or flowing lava. My only critique would be the loincloth: maybe it's just the picture, but it looks like as if it has no highlights.

Ganymene
03-03-2009, 23:25
Great paintjob! The black and red-orange-yellows truly look like molten rock or flowing lava. My only critique would be the loincloth: maybe it's just the picture, but it looks like as if it has no highlights.

Thanks! The tabard is another one of those purple highlighted area. From top to bottom it is a progressive blend from:

Top> black [low areas] / purple [high area]
to
Bottom> purple [low areas] / bright purple [high areas].


I have been having trouble getting the highlights to show up in my pictures (even with editing software). Maybe next time I take some photos, I'll adjust the light sources and see if I can't bring out the highlights a little bit more.

ManusMarines
04-03-2009, 17:39
I have been having trouble getting the highlights to show up in my pictures (even with editing software). Maybe next time I take some photos, I'll adjust the light sources and see if I can't bring out the highlights a little bit more.

Please do. The highlights look great in person. Photographing it takes something away from its actual presence.

Ganymene
04-03-2009, 20:20
Please do. The highlights look great in person. Photographing it takes something away from its actual presence.

Easier said than done.

I have attempted many times, but the highlights always seem to disappear in between the camera and the computer. :confused: I'll keep trying until I get something that looks close to real life.

Neckutter
04-03-2009, 21:14
i think a healthy wash of devlan mud would make your minis look even more wonderful. :)

Azriel45
04-03-2009, 21:38
Easier said than done.

I have attempted many times, but the highlights always seem to disappear in between the camera and the computer. :confused: I'll keep trying until I get something that looks close to real life.

A lamp with a Daylight bulb in it might help.

Dezmord
04-03-2009, 23:42
i think a healthy wash of devlan mud would make your minis look even more wonderful.
I disagree with that. Ganymene achieved a realistic looking lava-look with an inner glow on the avatar with - devlan mud would dull that effect.

Ganymene
05-03-2009, 08:32
i think a healthy wash of devlan mud would make your minis look even more wonderful. :)


I disagree with that. Ganymene achieved a realistic looking lava-look with an inner glow on the avatar with - devlan mud would dull that effect.

I'm trying to avoid washes as much as possible. I tried some on a test model with my last paint scheme and it helped out a bit. With the new scheme, I don't think I need the washes as the style I'm using incorporates natural highlights and shading (more highlights). I want the scheme to remain as bright as possible and I think washes would dull the colors more than I want.


A lamp with a Daylight bulb in it might help.

I am currently using half yellow light bulbs and half daylight bulbs. I am not doing this intentionally, that is just how I have my lights setup. I will try not using the yellow light when taking the next set of pictures.

Ganymene
05-03-2009, 08:56
Okay, I am still waiting to base the Avatar until I can get the right stuff to finish the base. I did some work on the Wraithguard. I laid down the basic colors and started the blending, but I haven't done any highlighting or finished blending the colors. I also tried taking the pictures with only daylight bulbs as per Azriel45's suggestion. The only problem is that there are no highlights on these models to see if it worked and my camera died before I could take more than three pictures.

Here are the work-in-progress Wraithguard,

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard09.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard07.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard08.jpg

Now that I see the pictures, I can see some spots that I missed. These guys should be finished soon. I am going to be focusing on a unit of ten of them (and their Spiritseer) next.

I also am going to be changing the head on the Autarch. I think he looks too much like a really fancy Dire Avenger Exarch. This isn't a bad thing, but eventually I will be making a Dire Avenger style Autarch and I want my Yriel 'counts as' to be more unique. I was thinking about a Warlock/Farseer style helmet. I tried this at first, but the Farseer helmets are way too big for an Autarch's body, so I will be making a custom one as soon as I settle on a design.

I also started on a Wave Serpent with the new color scheme, but as I said, my camera dies before I could take any more pictures. New batteries (and pictures) soon.

Elazar The Glorified
05-03-2009, 10:16
The Avatar looks great. The gems you've painted are really good and definitely add that extra little something to the model. I would ignore suggestions for adding washes, particularly devlan mud. You've got a wonderful technique for blending and don't need the aid of the washes and your colours are perfect so don't need any dulling down.
The Wraigthguard look like they're coming along well but you need to get some more batteries for your camera so we can see you WIP Wave Serpent! :)

Ganymene
05-03-2009, 18:47
The Avatar looks great. The gems you've painted are really good and definitely add that extra little something to the model. I would ignore suggestions for adding washes, particularly devlan mud. You've got a wonderful technique for blending and don't need the aid of the washes and your colours are perfect so don't need any dulling down.
The Wraigthguard look like they're coming along well but you need to get some more batteries for your camera so we can see you WIP Wave Serpent! :)

Thanks Elazar! Yeah, I'm going to stay away from washes on the Eldar. I want to keep them as bright as possible. I've only started laying out the basic colors on the Wave Serpent, but I know exactly how I'm going to paint it, so it will come along fairly quickly once I finish the blending. And I'll probably get some work-in-progress shots up early next week.

Ganymene
10-03-2009, 07:40
I've got some new batteries for my camera and some new work-in-progress photos.

While waiting to base and varnish the Avatar, I started working on the first Wave Serpent with the new color scheme. I have laid down the red and did some blending on the wing. The other side will be the same. The white parts will be painted black. The main hull will be mostly red, with a highlight to orange on the raised parts, and up to yellow at the highest points. I am waiting to finish the bright colors before I start on the black. For the cockpit I was thinking gold, but I may go for a purple or black windshield in the same style as the gems on the other models. I have a little while before I start on it, so that will give me time to decide.

Wave Serpent
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/WaveSerpent04.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/WaveSerpent05.jpg


The underside of the Wave Serpent will be mostly black except for the engines. The engines will be painted the same style as the largest part of the hull. I may leave ribbed part of the underside (under the front wings) white, but that's inconsequential, as you cannot see that part very well anyway.

III
10-03-2009, 07:45
nice looking wraithlord, I don't think I have ever seen the sword on that way before.

Ganymene
10-03-2009, 07:53
nice looking wraithlord, I don't think I have ever seen the sword on that way before.

Thanks. I wanted to go for a different style for him than the standard Wraithsword-armed-Wraithlords, but the sword is too awesome not to use. I thought that if he was holding the sword up (as close as he could) against the outside of his forearm he would look cool, but also different enough from other Wraithlords to make him unique.

spekkiebig
10-03-2009, 08:33
Why do't you paint the inside of the cockpit and leave the windows clear? :confused: I think that not many people can make painted windows look good. I've maybe seen only one or two armies that realy pulled it off. You're not just being lazy are you? :D Nice blending on the hull by the way!

Ganymene
10-03-2009, 09:02
Why do't you paint the inside of the cockpit and leave the windows clear? :confused: I think that not many people can make painted windows look good. I've maybe seen only one or two armies that realy pulled it off. You're not just being lazy are you? :D Nice blending on the hull by the way!

Thanks! I'm not trying to be lazy, but sometimes I am. :D

I'm not leaving the cockpits clear mainly because I can't paint them. One reason is my hands aren't nearly steady enough to paint those thin pieces in the middle of the glass, especially with the knowledge that if I slip it will ruin the clear part. So, I am just painting over them.

I think gold will be the simplest solution, as it doesn't need any additional painting other than the basic color. Purple, I think, would make it look like a giant gem where the cockpit is (could be good, could be bad). Black would take some extra painting to make it look like black glass, perhaps with some shining parts to make it look natural.

Ganymene
10-03-2009, 17:09
I believe chrono's starstrike squadron (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115082) has some nice windows for inspiration i think.

I've noticed that the server at my work does't allow me to insert active pictures or links, i'll add the link later today.

Anything chrono does is probably way beyond my skill level.

Aha, I just found the link when I quoted your message spekkiebig (it's there, it's just hiding). For those interested, this (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115082) is the log he is talking about.

Those windows are not what I was envisioning. Those are more of a reflective sky/earth type windshield, I was going to try a more opaque style. I'm thinking more of a tinted-windows-at-night type windshield. Sort of like the gems, with a single source of light coming from one direction, but not dispersing and coming out the other side.

I have attached a picture of my old color scheme with the gold windshield, so everyone can see how that looked. The gold will be the default scheme if I can't pull off what I'm envisioning.

deathwing_marine
10-03-2009, 18:08
Ganymene, maybe you'd be interested in something like this?

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww118/zaksak1808/100_2950.jpg
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww118/zaksak1808/100_2951.jpg

I was trying to get a clear red with Baal Red wash directly over the clear plastic, but it dried like this due to a second layer. I like it a lot, and it lets light through so you can see the silhouette of the pilot.

spekkiebig
10-03-2009, 19:05
Those windows are not what I was envisioning. Those are more of a reflective sky/earth type windshield, I was going to try a more opaque style. I'm thinking more of a tinted-windows-at-night type windshield. Sort of like the gems, with a single source of light coming from one direction, but not dispersing and coming out the other side.

I accidently deleted my message when i tried to insert the link (idiot :p) but i see you've already found it. I hope your plan for the windows works because i must admit i don't realy like the gold ones :eyebrows:.
Maybe you should post a picture of all the models you've finished so far, i bet they look nice together.

Morthai
10-03-2009, 20:41
Go for the purple windshield Ganymene :) Large gold area will look rather dull. I think gem like windshield will look better.

Dezmord
10-03-2009, 23:17
I'm also not sure about the gold - maybe it could work if you give the gold some more highlights (or paint it like a gold geme).

Ganymene
11-03-2009, 04:20
Ganymene, maybe you'd be interested in something like this?

I was trying to get a clear red with Baal Red wash directly over the clear plastic, but it dried like this due to a second layer. I like it a lot, and it lets light through so you can see the silhouette of the pilot.

That probably would have worked, but I've got four Wave Serpents built and they are all primed with the canopied glued down. That is a great idea though. I would most likely have used a purple wash to complement the highlights, but I am not going to be able to get the canopies off without destroying the models.


I accidently deleted my message when i tried to insert the link (idiot :p) but i see you've already found it. I hope your plan for the windows works because i must admit i don't realy like the gold ones :eyebrows:.
Maybe you should post a picture of all the models you've finished so far, i bet they look nice together.

Yeah, I'm going to try and go with the purple first and then if that doesn't work , I'm going to try the black.

The only model I have finished completely is the Avatar. I am going to finish off the Wraithguard and then finish basing all the completely painted models (Wraithlords) and get an (completed so far) army shot.

Here is a picture of the based (but not varnished) Avatar.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar.jpg

I just need to spray him with varnish and go over the gold one more time and he'll be complete (finally).


Go for the purple windshield Ganymene :) Large gold area will look rather dull. I think gem like windshield will look better.

I'm going to try the purple out first, in the same style as the gems. If that doesn't work I'm going to go for a black canopy. I think the purple will work out well, but I am going to finish the Wraithguard before I finish the Wave Serpent.


I'm also not sure about the gold - maybe it could work if you give the gold some more highlights (or paint it like a gold geme).

A gold gem would be really cool looking, but I would have no idea how to go about painting one. I am really trying to avoid the gold canopy, because it only looked okay on the other old Wave Serpents. I want it to look really good, and that's why I want to go for the purple or black canopy.

deathwing_marine
11-03-2009, 04:37
If you really want to try it, you could scrape off the primer with a knife and put the wash on. You don't need to do it on both sides, which is nice. However you do it, I think purple will look nicer than black or gold.

Ganymene
11-03-2009, 05:17
If you really want to try it, you could scrape off the primer with a knife and put the wash on. You don't need to do it on both sides, which is nice. However you do it, I think purple will look nicer than black or gold.

I'm not going to risk scratching or nicking the plastic. I do think purple will be the best color to go with, I've always liked the way purple and orange look together. Though, I am colorblind (not completely mind you) so it may look different to me than to everyone else. :D

Radium
11-03-2009, 11:01
Holy ****. I forget to check this log, and all of a sudden you've painted half an army extra!

I like the dark Avatar with the slight hint of purple. Are you going to attach his wild manes some time?

Ganymene
11-03-2009, 23:00
Holy ****. I forget to check this log, and all of a sudden you've painted half an army extra!

I like the dark Avatar with the slight hint of purple. Are you going to attach his wild manes some time?

Thanks Radium. I have painted a lot of stuff but have only finished the Avatar thus far. I am going to finish up the Wraithguard, then go back and finish basing the Wraithlords, then move on to the Dire Avengers and their Wave Serpent.

I am also going to keep the hair off of the Avatar. I like the way he looks without the hair. When I was painting him, I didn't think I was going to attach it, but I primed the hair and left the the wrap on top just in case I changed my mind. When I tried to drill into the wrap to pin it (to see what he would look like with hair), I ripped through the side. That pretty much settled that. I am happy with the way he came out without the hair though.

Dezmord
12-03-2009, 01:32
for the golden gem: You could try it by mixing some mithril silver into each highlight of gold. When finished give it a wash with baal red.

Ganymene
12-03-2009, 10:06
for the golden gem: You could try it by mixing some mithril silver into each highlight of gold. When finished give it a wash with baal red.

Thanks Dezmord, that sounds like a solid way to do it. I'll give it a try to see what it looks like.


No updates today as I had other things to do. But, work will continue soon. I am on break from school next week, so I will have plenty of time to paint things. I am planning (possibly unattainably) to finish up the entire Wraithguard squad next week while I'm off of school.


I've also had some other ideas for the army. I have been painting all the spirit stones on the models purple. I think some of the models need some more gems painted to complete their look (the Wraithguard's cannons gave me this idea). I do not want to paint them the same color as the spirit stones though, as I want those to be distinct. I was considering doing the gems on the weapons red with an orange highlight (or now possibly gold as Dezmord suggested that formula) to give them that little extra. This also means some repainting on the Avatar, but not too much. These gems will be only the decorative gems on guns, tabard clasps, swords, etc, basically anything that is solid black that needs some breaking up. I will not be painting every bump on every model (I'd like to finish this army before I die ;)).

What does everyone think?

Azriel45
12-03-2009, 16:14
Personally, I'd say keep the Avatar as is... more red and orange on him could be overpowering. His gems help to add a little color to break up the already red/orange heavy theme.

spekkiebig
12-03-2009, 19:01
I must agree with Azriel45. If you do want to change the colour of the gems try green. That makes a nice contrast with the red and orange.

Ganymene
12-03-2009, 22:48
The only gems I was considering changing on the Avatar were the ones on the sword and the ones holding the tabard onto his belt. I see all the other ones as being the spirit stones of past young kings sacrificed to Khaine (and even if it doesn't work like that, they will still be spirit stones), so most of them will stay purple.

I was thinking about the red stones for the Wraithcannons, Bright Lances, Banshee Power Swords, Wraithswords, etc, using them on those kinds of things to contrast the black/purple instead of them being solid black with some gold.

Ganymene
19-03-2009, 08:52
Okay, not as much progress as I had hoped to this point, but I have done some work nonetheless.

I have done the color and blending on the first five Wraithguard and have started laying down the black on most of them. There is the one I have finished in the picture, as he is part of the squad too.

Here is what I have completed so far. Nothing spectacular, but I will have more time to work on them tomorrow, so another update then.

Work-in-progress Wraithguard
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard10.jpg



I have also not decided on the gems yet. I want to put gems on the weapons to break up the black and purple, but I haven't had a chance to paint any to see what they look like. I am still leaning towards red or orange (only on the black parts of the weapons) because I don't want to expand the palette of colors any further, but also don't want the same color gems as the spirit stones. I'll paint some tomorrow when I get a chance and put up some pictures to show everyone what they look like.


I am going to be putting the other five on their bases as well so I can start painting them. The other five will have much busier bases. These five were the originals for the 40mm bases, so they are not too interesting. The next five will have some clutter or some such stuff to add something to the otherwise bland bases I already have. That way the squad has some plain bases and some interesting bases mixed together.

Ganymene
20-03-2009, 09:36
I had lots of time to paint today, so I have almost completely finished the Wraithguard. I have their bodies completely painted. I have all the colors laid down on their Wraithcannons and just need to add the (as yet undecided) gems. I was going to do some tests today to see what the gems would look like, but I never got around to it.

I also need to finish their bases as well, but that will be quick. Here are the (almost) finished Wraithguard. And, once again, the purple highlights are not showing up too well in the pictures, but, as always, I assure you they are there.


Wraithguard
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard13.jpg

Back
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard14.jpg

Close-up
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard11.jpg

A couple more
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard12.jpg



I will be able to get more done next week. I should have these five Wraithguard finished next week sometime, then I can start on the next five (I know, it's not that interesting but I want to finish the squad) and their Spiritseer. The Spiritseer is the one from earlier in my log. She will be repainted a little bit to bring her in line with my current non-Wraith color scheme.

Elazar The Glorified
20-03-2009, 09:46
These guys are looking good as ever. You're being very disciplined with your painting. I'd be off painting the Autarch already! :D

Dezmord
20-03-2009, 09:46
They look good and fit perfectly in the overall army.


just need to add the (as yet undecided) gems
How about painting the gems on the weapons in the "body-colour" (from red to yellow)? It should look good on the black weapons and you don't have to introduce a new colour into your paintscheme.

Ganymene
20-03-2009, 11:02
These guys are looking good as ever. You're being very disciplined with your painting. I'd be off painting the Autarch already! :D

Thanks Elazar! I am desperately trying to not get off track. I want to get at least one squad of infantry done before I start on anything else. After the Wraithguard are finished, I am heading straight for that Autarch. :D I am going to try to do one squad, then something big/important, then a squad, etc. I figure if I can stick to a plan for painting the army, I will get more things finished, and can get more stuff to work on.

After the Autarch, I'll probably get something else to build, just to break up the painting.



They look good and fit perfectly in the overall army.

How about painting the gems on the weapons in the "body-colour" (from red to yellow)? It should look good on the black weapons and you don't have to introduce a new colour into your paintscheme.

Thanks Dezmord! I think it will look good on the weapons, as well. As of right now I am leaning towards the red gems. I will try out a few other colors (one of those is green, as spekkiebig suggested, and I'll try the red to yellow out, as you suggest) just to see how they look on the weapons when they are close to the red/orange/yellow armor.

Ganymene
27-03-2009, 09:03
It's weekly update time. I know, I'm a day late this week, but I did make some progress.

I put some gems on the Wraithcannons. I tried red/orange/yellow gems, but they just didn't look right with all the other colors on the Wraithguard. So, I tried green gems and I think they contrast nicely with the other colors on the Wraithguard. Now the only color from the rainbow not on the constructs is blue (I will not be adding it either).

I only have to finish their bases (a quick pearlescent ink) and the first five will be complete (it's about time).

Now that I see them close up like this, I think I need to blend the green gems a bit. That shouldn't take too long though.

Wraithguard
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard15.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard16.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithguard17.jpg



I have five more to do to finish the squad (and fifteen more total), but I think I'll take break from the Wraithguard for a bit and paint the first squad of Dire Avengers. Next week I should have my first few Avengers painted up.


EDIT: Oooh, 500 posts!

spekkiebig
27-03-2009, 09:31
It's finally starting to make sense to you Ganymene! The green realy picks up your models. It makes them look so much better than with the gold or just plain black. Now finish some more models you lazy bum! :D

Elazar The Glorified
27-03-2009, 09:34
Really like the green gems on the wraithcannons really makes them stand out but I think you're right they could do with a little bit more blending just to smooth them out a bit. Great work though as ever!

Dezmord
27-03-2009, 10:21
They look very good and the green fits perfetly!

One thing is wierd though: You higlighted the gems the wrong way. They are not higlighted like your other gems, with the brighter colours on the bottom left. The green gems have their highlights on the upper right, which is wrong. I think I know where this mistake comes from: You did hold the models with the the cannons pointing downwards while painting the gems, didn't you?

I would also concur with the blending - maybe you could just wash them with thraka green for a more smooth transition?

Ganymene
27-03-2009, 10:40
It's finally starting to make sense to you Ganymene! The green realy picks up your models. It makes them look so much better than with the gold or just plain black. Now finish some more models you lazy bum! :D

Thanks spekkiebig! Your suggestions have been really helpful. I think the green gems make the Wraithcannons much more ornate.

Don't worry, I'm going to paint some Dire Avengers before I start on any more Wraithguard because the Wraithguard take forever to paint (or maybe I'm just a really slow painter).



Really like the green gems on the wraithcannons really makes them stand out but I think you're right they could do with a little bit more blending just to smooth them out a bit. Great work though as ever!

Thanks Elazar! Yeah, I always seem to notice all the little things I missed when I see a gigantic picture of the models. The blending will only take a little while after I redo the gems (see below).


They look very good and the green fits perfetly!

One thing is wierd though: You higlighted the gems the wrong way. They are not higlighted like your other gems, with the brighter colours on the bottom left. The green gems have their highlights on the upper right, which is wrong. I think I know where this mistake comes from: You did hold the models with the the cannons pointing downwards while painting the gems, didn't you?

I would also concur with the blending - maybe you could just wash them with thraka green for a more smooth transition?

Thanks Dezmord! You are absolutely right about the gems. I couldn't figure out why they looked a little strange when I was painting them. I thought it was just because of the new colors. I didn't want to do a top to bottom gem (black on the very top to green on the very bottom) because I thought it would look weird. Instead I took the left side as the top (don't know why) and painted it like the others. I will definitely change them around to make them look more natural.

Thanks for pointing that out, I'm glad you guys are here to mention stuff like this, it has been very helpful. :)

Thud
27-03-2009, 11:03
Hey Ganymene,

Great looking army, I love the orange painting scheme, in fact I've been intending to do an orange army for years now, and still might do one as my next project. The progression into yellow is great as well. I am chronically unable to do wet-blending, but you've pulled it off great.

There is one thing I'm not such a big fan of, though, and that is the gold windshields on the Serpent. I'd suggest black with some red-era style blue-grey highlights.

Ganymene
27-03-2009, 11:43
Hey Ganymene,

Great looking army, I love the orange painting scheme, in fact I've been intending to do an orange army for years now, and still might do one as my next project. The progression into yellow is great as well. I am chronically unable to do wet-blending, but you've pulled it off great.

There is one thing I'm not such a big fan of, though, and that is the gold windshields on the Serpent. I'd suggest black with some red-era style blue-grey highlights.

Thanks Thud, it's good to see more Wraith-Eldar fans around.

The color progression is actually a drybrush blend. I can't wet blend very well either. It consists of drybrushing the two colors back and forth with thinner and thinner layers until the color-change line disappears.

I am repainting my Wave Serpents and will not be doing gold windshields (no one likes those anyway). I am going to start by trying out purple like the spirit stones, (or maybe even green now) and see how it turns out. If that doesn't work, I'm going with black. I think a red highlight on a black windshield would look nice, I'll probably try that one out as well.

deathwing_marine
27-03-2009, 17:28
They're looking great Ganymene! You're making me want to go finish up my army :p

Are you going to paint the tubing coming from the Wraithcannons? I think they could use some differentiation.

Ganymene
27-03-2009, 21:16
They're looking great Ganymene! You're making me want to go finish up my army :p

Are you going to paint the tubing coming from the Wraithcannons? I think they could use some differentiation.

Thanks deathwing_marine! You should start up a project log to show off your stuff.

The tubing is actually purple, but it is very hard to see in the pictures (purple never seems to show up). I was considering painting them gold. I may try that out when I redo the gems, just to see what it looks like.

Ganymene
01-04-2009, 10:11
Greetings all!

I usually don't get to paint on Tuesday nights, but I couldn't sleep. So, I did some final work on the Avatar. I changed a few of his non-body/non-armor gems to green. Basically just the gems holding the tabard to his body and the gems on his sword. I also touched up a few places that I missed the first seven times around.

Avatar
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar27.jpg

Close-up of the gems
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Avatar28.jpg

I didn't take any pictures of the sword specifically, but you can sort of see it in the first photo.

Not too much other stuff to show yet. Hopefully I will get to work on the Dire Avengers tomorrow (actually today) and show some progress on them. I will also be redoing the gems on the Wraithguard, seeing as I painted them upside down.

spekkiebig
01-04-2009, 10:25
This close up finally shows the purple highlight we've been missing all this time. The green gems realy make your Avatar look better to. I don't now about the static gras on th ebase though :eyebrows:. It just doesn't seem right to me. Maybe you should just sand and paint them?

Ganymene
01-04-2009, 10:43
This close up finally shows the purple highlight we've been missing all this time. The green gems realy make your Avatar look better to. I don't now about the static gras on th ebase though :eyebrows:. It just doesn't seem right to me. Maybe you should just sand and paint them?

Thanks spekkiebig, I really like the green gems too, they contrast with the red/orange just enough to stand out. Yes! Someone has finally noticed the purple. :D Although the picture doesn't make the transition from black to purple look quite as smooth as it is in real life.

As far as the base. Since I am doing the Craftworld bases, I thought that they would look too plain with just the silvery white. I imagine that Craftworlds have some sort of agriculture, so I went with grass on the Avatar's base just to break up the white. Other bases will have grass, wraithbone rubble, steps, and some will even have water effects to keep things different. I want to give the feeling that they are fighting on the Craftworld, but that it isn't all white wraithbone. I want to give the bases that 'temple' look. With much wraithbone, but also maybe that a unit is in a garden, or a small pool, or near some sort of damaged building. I know it looks out of place now, but if I can accomplish what I hope to, I think it will all come together in the end (but if it doesn't, I can always cover it up with dirt :)).

Radium
01-04-2009, 12:02
Looks good, and I can see where you're coming from regarding the grass... But shouldn't it get burned by the walking star passing by a couple of feet away?

Elazar The Glorified
01-04-2009, 18:46
He looks great with the green gems (which look very well done).
I have to agree about the static grass. I can see what you've tried to do and why. It's just with it being a straight line it looks too artificial (which it technically is and would be) which just doesn't feel right with something as organic looking as static grass. But then it sounds as if you have a wider plan with the bases.

Azriel45
01-04-2009, 20:55
You really have a good hand for gemstones man. Those things look amazing.

Ganymene
01-04-2009, 23:18
Looks good, and I can see where you're coming from regarding the grass... But shouldn't it get burned by the walking star passing by a couple of feet away?

Thanks Radium! I was thinking that too. I am just not sure how to achieve a 'burning/burnt' effect on the grass. I thought about painting it black with orange/red tips, but I am afraid the paint will just collect and look like I spilled paint all over it. If you have any ideas, I would be glad to hear how you would do it.


He looks great with the green gems (which look very well done).
I have to agree about the static grass. I can see what you've tried to do and why. It's just with it being a straight line it looks too artificial (which it technically is and would be) which just doesn't feel right with something as organic looking as static grass. But then it sounds as if you have a wider plan with the bases.

Thanks Elazar! It does look a little strange in a straight line like that, maybe if I put a small ledge (like a curb) next to the grass to give it more of a 'garden' feel. Do you think that might work?


You really have a good hand for gemstones man. Those things look amazing.

Thanks Azriel! At first I could not figure out how to paint gemstones to save my life, but I practiced a lot until I found a method I was comfortable with. To be honest, I was surprised how well they all came out on the Avatar.

Morthai
01-04-2009, 23:31
I agree with Radium, burned grass would look much better. Id go even further and would add some cracks in the floor ;)

As for the burnt effect, try painting grass black and drybrush it a little with brown colors. I think it should work.

Ganymene
01-04-2009, 23:49
I agree with Radium, burned grass would look much better. Id go even further and would add some cracks in the floor ;)

As for the burnt effect, try painting grass black and drybrush it a little with brown colors. I think it should work.

I'll give that a try with some grass on a test base to see how it works. Thanks for the tip Morthai!

Ganymene
02-04-2009, 06:48
Okay, I started work on the Dire Avengers. A little ways in I came to dilemma. Should I put the Exarch on the standard 25mm base, or go (big or go home) with a 40mm base to make him stand out a little bit more?

This is a decision that will affect all the coming aspect squads, as, if I put the Dire Avenger Exarch on a 40mm base, I will be putting all the Exarchs on 40mm bases.

All of my Autarchs will be getting 40mm base for sure. As will any other HQ choices (Phoenix Lords, Farseers, possibly even Warlocks) because I'd like them to stand out from the rest of the army. The HQ choices will be getting special stuff on their bases (like my Yriel), but I will probably keep the Exarchs simple, with just a basic base to match their squad, only larger.

As of this moment, I am leaning towards the 40mm bases, so that they will stand out. But, I'll take any advice on how I should do it. Here's some pictures of both bases.

Also, please ignore the bad primer job, nothing that cannot be fixed with some paint. :)

Dire Avenger Exarch on 25mm base.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger07.jpg

Dire Avenger Exarch on 40mm base.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger08.jpg


Let me know what you think!

Ganymene
02-04-2009, 06:49
Now that that is out of the way, I finished up the work on that Dire Avenger you saw earlier in the thread. This will be the tentative scheme for them all.

The body suit is actually blood red, it is hard to see with all that orange and yellow all over the place. Not much to say except that it took a while to paint, so I will be doing these production line style.

Here's some pictures.

Dire Avenger
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger09.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger10.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger11.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger13.jpg



I see a few places that need to be touched up (the eye, missed a few spots), but that's about it. I have started to lay down the red on the other Avengers, so I didn't take any pictures of them. Once I get all the armor done, I will take some work-in-progress photos of them.

In retrospect, I wish I would have left their heads off, but I wanted to build them (awesome models) and play with them, so I will just have to work around them.

Dezmord
02-04-2009, 10:01
Nice Avenger! I can even see the highlights on the tabard :D

Small critique (ore nitpicking ;)) though: It looks like you've painted the gold stuff on the armor directly onto the red colour. I usually find it better to paint the gold parts black at first, as it helps defining the gold parts better.

Radium
02-04-2009, 10:31
Nice Avenger! I can even see the highlights on the tabard :D

Small critique though: It looks like you've painted the gold stuff on the armor directly onto the red colour. I usually find it better to paint the gold parts black at first, as it helps defining the gold parts better.

May I suggest brown instead of black?

Anyhow, on the grass: maybe give it a carefull wash with black and brown (those new citadel washes are amazing at that) and then dryrbush very lightly with some browns and maybe some bone. Just give it a try on a test base (you don't want to ruin the avatar of course ;)).

Ganymene
02-04-2009, 10:56
Nice Avenger! I can even see the highlights on the tabard :D

Small critique (ore nitpicking ;)) though: It looks like you've painted the gold stuff on the armor directly onto the red colour. I usually find it better to paint the gold parts black at first, as it helps defining the gold parts better.

Thanks Dezmord! I never even thought about that until now. I usually lay down a coat of black on anything I'm going to paint gold, just because the gold goes on much easier over black (I just didn't do it while picking out details). I assume you're talking about using the black to surround the gold so it is picked out by the eye more easily, that is an excellent idea.


May I suggest brown instead of black?


Brown may work as well, it's not quite as harsh as the black would be. I don't have any brown paints though, and have never used any, so I'm not sure which ones would work best, which brown would you suggest?


Anyhow, on the grass: maybe give it a carefull wash with black and brown (those new citadel washes are amazing at that) and then dryrbush very lightly with some browns and maybe some bone. Just give it a try on a test base (you don't want to ruin the avatar of course ;)).

Ah yes, the washes. They will definitely work better than me trying to paint the grass with the regular paints. I'll try it out and see what I can come up with. Thanks for the tips Radium!

Radium
02-04-2009, 11:01
Scorched brown works best as a basecoat for gold. try to leave some brown in the recesses, and you've got some nice looking gold. You could also just wash the gold with some gryphonne sepia or devlan mud.

Azriel45
02-04-2009, 20:54
As much a fan of the codex temple colors as i am, I really like your take on the aspects. Can't wait to see more.
Also, I'm going to agree with several people here and say that brown is the best base for golds. It turns out fantastic.(Really creates a nice rich, deep looking gold.)
I use Bestial Brown for the purpose.

Ganymene
02-04-2009, 22:38
Scorched brown works best as a basecoat for gold. try to leave some brown in the recesses, and you've got some nice looking gold. You could also just wash the gold with some gryphonne sepia or devlan mud.

I am trying to stay away from washes on the actual models because feel as though I have more control with the regular paints. I'll give the brown a try and see how it comes out.


As much a fan of the codex temple colors as i am, I really like your take on the aspects. Can't wait to see more.
Also, I'm going to agree with several people here and say that brown is the best base for golds. It turns out fantastic.(Really creates a nice rich, deep looking gold.)
I use Bestial Brown for the purpose.

Thanks Azriel, I like the traditional temple colors as well, but I think that unless all the Aspects are on the table at the same time, they look a little out of place. That is why I'm trying to keep them all painted as closely as possible to one another. There will, of course, be some minor differences between them, but overall the army should look like one cohesive force. :)

spekkiebig
04-04-2009, 07:53
Nice work on the Dire Avenger Ganymene. If you touch him up a bit (especialy along the gold on top of the gun) he will look the part. Maybe you should try and paint his eyes green too, to make them stand out a bit more. The same goes for the gold lense in his shoulder mounted sensor thingy. Paint it in a nice colour (red or green) and it will look so much better.
Now go and paint the rest of them! :evilgrin:

Ganymene
04-04-2009, 22:21
Nice work on the Dire Avenger Ganymene. If you touch him up a bit (especialy along the gold on top of the gun) he will look the part. Maybe you should try and paint his eyes green too, to make them stand out a bit more. The same goes for the gold lense in his shoulder mounted sensor thingy. Paint it in a nice colour (red or green) and it will look so much better.
Now go and paint the rest of them! :evilgrin:

Thanks spekkiebig! Yeah, he definitely needs some touch ups. The gold on the top of the gun is a little bit patchy, I noticed that after I took the picture. I did want to paint the targeter lens, but I didn't because I had a hard time getting to it. When I paint the rest of them I will probably go with a green lens. I want to keep the eyes gold because I think it contrasts well with the black on his face mask.

I hope to have the armor finished on them by next week. Then I can lay down the black and start on the gems. I am also thinking about painting something on the facemask (the black part). I saw some Dire Avengers somewhere (possibly here) where the masks were painted with designs. I might give it a try, but if I cannot pull it off they will stay black.

Elazar The Glorified
05-04-2009, 06:45
Hey Ganymene the Dire Avengers are looking good. The idea about painting their masks with a design sounds interesting. I reckon it would be quite fiddly work but if you can pull it off it could look great. What designs did you have in mind?

Ganymene
06-04-2009, 01:47
Hey Ganymene the Dire Avengers are looking good. The idea about painting their masks with a design sounds interesting. I reckon it would be quite fiddly work but if you can pull it off it could look great. What designs did you have in mind?

Thanks Elazar! I'm not sure about the design on the facemasks, it was just a thought I had. I am going to give it a try because it is something I have never done before. I have actually never tried any freehand at all, so it could be a success or a disaster, we'll just have to wait and see how it turns out. :D

Ganymene
12-04-2009, 09:01
A couple days late on this week's update, but it is here nonetheless.

I did more work on the Dire Avengers. I have put down the red on the armor and helmet. I have also laid down the orange on the Wraithbone plates on their armor. I only need to finish the yellow highlighting/blending on the armor and then do the same on the helmets. Once I have finished that, I can start on the black.

I decided to go with the 40mm base for the Exarch. I think that they are important enough to warrant their own 'stand out' bases. This will be an ongoing trend with the army. All the Exarchs will be on the larger bases, as will the HQ choices.

The orange didn't come out too well in the pictures, but it will be more visible once I get the yellow on there.


Dire Avengers
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvengers14.jpg


It's nothing too impressive, but it is progress, so I figured I'd show everyone that they are coming along at a steady (albeit slow) pace. I think these guys may turn out a little different (these look more reddish) than the one I had previously painted, so I will go back and make sure the other Avenger matches up with the new ones.

Dezmord
12-04-2009, 10:02
It's nothing too impressive, but it is progress, so I figured I'd show everyone that they are coming along at a steady (albeit slow) pace.
Even slow progress has to be shown. It helps the painter staying motivated :D

Ganymene
13-04-2009, 01:19
Even slow progress has to be shown. It helps the painter staying motivated :D

Agreed.

By setting a goal of updating this log every week, it has helped me to stay with it, even if I only do a small amount of work.

Everyone's helpful comments and suggestions have also helped immensely.

Thud
13-04-2009, 03:19
I'm liking those Dire Avengers, especially the Exarch. The 40mm base is such a small, simple change, but it really makes him stand out and look all important and whatnot. I think I'll have to steal that for my DA Exarch.

Ganymene
13-04-2009, 10:11
I'm liking those Dire Avengers, especially the Exarch. The 40mm base is such a small, simple change, but it really makes him stand out and look all important and whatnot. I think I'll have to steal that for my DA Exarch.

Glad you like them Thud.

Steal away! I think that the Exarchs deserve their own larger base to make them noticeable because they are a much more advanced version of the standard Aspect Warrior. Their stats are pumped up, and they have unique wargear that sets them apart from their squad. They are like mini-HQs, and I think they should be treated as such.

Plus, I think they look better on the larger base. :)

Ganymene
14-04-2009, 08:55
Hey look, a Monday night/Tuesday morning update!

I had a little bit of time to work on a Dire Avenger. I will be doing the armor individually instead of assembly line style.. It took about 45 minutes to do the blending on the armor. This is the main reason I'm going to do the armor on each one before moving onto the next, so that I don't forget where I am and which ones still need what done.

Dire Avenger
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger16.jpg


Once I get all their armor done, I may do some more work on their Wave Serpent, just to switch things up a bit before I start on the black.

Ganymene
16-04-2009, 09:49
It's weekly update time.

Once again, nothing too exciting, but I have finished the blending on the armor plates for half the squad. I am going to paint the Exarch once I have finished his squad. I want to give him the attention that I would give an HQ model.

Let me know if the yellow is too subtle. I went for a less extreme color difference between the orange and the yellow. This can be corrected with a simple highlight. I'd like to know what everyone thinks, should I leave it this way, or go back to the extreme yellow in the corners of the plates?

Dire Avengers
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger17.jpg



Hopefully I will get some more time to work on them and finish their armor later this week. Then I can start on their helmets and get some work done on their Wave Serpent.

Radium
16-04-2009, 10:15
Yep, I'd highlight them some more with yellow. Would make the armour 'pop' some more.

You're make some good progress! Keep it up.

Dezmord
16-04-2009, 10:42
I'd concur. The armor looks already pretty good, but I would also give it a slightly more yellow edge.

Ganymene
16-04-2009, 10:53
Yep, I'd highlight them some more with yellow. Would make the armour 'pop' some more.

You're make some good progress! Keep it up.


I'd concur. The armor looks already pretty good, but I would also give it a slightly more yellow edge.

Thanks guys! I was thinking they needed more yellow on the corners to really solidify the color gradient. Up close (while I was painting them) they looked fine, but once I went to take their picture, it seemed like it needed a bit more. I will add some more highlights when I go to finish the armor.

Ganymene
17-04-2009, 08:31
Has a lot of time to paint tonight (about four hours), so I did some more work on the Dire Avengers.

I finished the body armor and started on their helmets. I need to do a few touch-ups on their helmets, but for the most part their armor is done.

Pictures!
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger18.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger19.jpg

The way the pictures look, the highlights kind of drown out the gradient on their armor. It is a red body suit with orange-to-yellow armor plates, with an extreme yellow highlight in the corners of the plates.

I wanted to get some work done on their Wave Serpent, but I am really enjoying painting these guys right now, so I will probably start laying down the black next.

Dezmord
17-04-2009, 09:08
The armor looks definately better now!

Radium
17-04-2009, 09:12
I think the yellow highlights look really good! Adds some definition to the armour, while keeping the colours roughly the same.

Good job!

Ganymene
17-04-2009, 09:38
The armor looks definately better now!


I think the yellow highlights look really good! Adds some definition to the armour, while keeping the colours roughly the same.

Good job!

Thanks guys! I am really happy the way the armor turned out. The highlights really give the armor the definition it needed.

I also think that these Avengers came out a little bit more red than the test model. I like the red(der) version better and will probably do all the infantry in this style rather than the (more) orange(ish) style of the first Avenger.

Lucaren
17-04-2009, 11:14
brilliant blending mate and how many wraith constructs no its awesome i want to an army much the same when i can afford it.

spekkiebig
17-04-2009, 11:32
Nice work on those Dire Avengers Ganymene. I think it's cool the way you follow up on other people's advise and it always seems to make your models look better. Keep it up!

Elazar The Glorified
17-04-2009, 13:17
Looking good as ever. The yellow has really made a difference and gives the armour that little bit more definition and wow factor! :) You do realise though that I'm getting rather impatient for you to make a start on that Autarch so get a move on with these! ;)

Ganymene
18-04-2009, 07:03
brilliant blending mate and how many wraith constructs no its awesome i want to an army much the same when i can afford it.

Thanks, I have always liked the Wraith units, they are some of my favorite models. They can get a little expensive, but if you look on eBay, you can usually find them for cheap.



Nice work on those Dire Avengers Ganymene. I think it's cool the way you follow up on other people's advise and it always seems to make your models look better. Keep it up!

Thanks spekkiebig, I always try to take any advice given. It has helped me to improve my painting and gives me another opinion to work off of other than mine.


Looking good as ever. The yellow has really made a difference and gives the armour that little bit more definition and wow factor! :) You do realise though that I'm getting rather impatient for you to make a start on that Autarch so get a move on with these! ;)

Thanks Elazar, I really like the yellow as well. It helps the armor 'pop' a little more. Don't worry, I've got something extra to do to the Autarch before I start painting him. I think he will look even better when I'm done, I just have to get the right supplies, and finish the Dire Avengers. :)

cruise
20-04-2009, 12:46
Just found this log - awesome work. Some really unique ideas (especially with the Wraithlords).

A thought on the burning grass for the Avatar - Maybe show it in the process of burning? ie. do a section closest to the Avatar black/brown, then a thin line of red/orange, and the grass on the other side still green? It would make it clear what was happening, and look nicely dynamic...

Ganymene
20-04-2009, 23:11
Just found this log - awesome work. Some really unique ideas (especially with the Wraithlords).

A thought on the burning grass for the Avatar - Maybe show it in the process of burning? ie. do a section closest to the Avatar black/brown, then a thin line of red/orange, and the grass on the other side still green? It would make it clear what was happening, and look nicely dynamic...

Thanks, I'm glad you like it.

Your idea for the grass is almost exactly what I was going to try and achieve. I was going to try to paint the tips of the grass with an orange or red color to look like it is smoldering near where he is walking. I have a test base ready to try it out, but haven't had a chance to start on it yet. I will experiment with a few things and include it in my next update.

Threeshades
21-04-2009, 20:53
I havent read the whole thread just looked through the first 2 pages, and theres a question:
You have your army list written up in the OP saying:
Wraithseer Vecna (Eldrad)

And then there is this picture of a wraithlord converted to fit the style of a farseer. Does that mean you intend to use a Converted Wraithlord by Eldrad Ulthran's rules?

Morthai
21-04-2009, 21:11
Your log is progressing very nicely. I definitely like your updated version of DA. Miniatures painted on a high contrast always look good on the tabletop. Keep it up ;)

Ganymene
22-04-2009, 03:08
I havent read the whole thread just looked through the first 2 pages, and theres a question:
You have your army list written up in the OP saying:
Wraithseer Vecna (Eldrad)

And then there is this picture of a wraithlord converted to fit the style of a farseer. Does that mean you intend to use a Converted Wraithlord by Eldrad Ulthran's rules?

I am currently using the Wraithseer to represent Eldrad. My gaming group is very laid back about 'counts as'. We prefer to put unique models and interesting conversions above the standard 'tournament' rules for basing and line of sight. If there is ever a problem, we always work it out to be fair.


Your log is progressing very nicely. I definitely like your updated version of DA. Miniatures painted on a high contrast always look good on the tabletop. Keep it up ;)

Thanks Morthai! I really like the new Dire Avenger paint scheme as well. I think the extreme highlights really stand out without compromising the base red-to-orange scheme.

Have you had a chance to cast those heads up yet? I have an idea for them. :)

Ganymene
23-04-2009, 10:17
Hey look, a small update!


I put some black down on the Dire Avengers. I did their guns and shoulder pads, and started on their tabards, but my shoulder started to hurt so that is all I finished. Slow but steady. It is actually a lot more progress than I had expected to make tonight, so that's a good thing.

Dire Avengers
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger20.jpg


Now, while I was painting them, I saw the ones I was finishing the shoulder pads on still had white plumes on their helmets. I think they look kind of cool. So, I would like everyone's opinion on the light plume versus the dark plume on the Dire Avengers' helmets. Which do you think looks better, white or black? The face plate will remain black with gold eyes either way, so keep that in mind.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger21.jpg


Also, I said I would show a picture of the test 'burning grass' base I did, but it looks terrible so I didn't bother taking a picture. It ended up looking like swampland with pieces of grass sticking through. I did try several things and I think I am closing in on a technique that may work, but until I get one done that looks half decent I'm not going to take any pictures of them.

Hopefully I will have more time to work on them tomorrow, and can get the rest of the black finished so I can start on (my favorite part) the details.

Schwarzakilla
23-04-2009, 12:28
Red Dire Avengers?? Looks good!

Elazar The Glorified
23-04-2009, 17:09
The progress looks good. Personally I prefer the black for the helmet plumes looks much better and keeps them tied in with the rest of the army. Anyway, hurry up! I want to see this improved Autarch :D

Dezmord
23-04-2009, 21:14
Yeah, definately the dark ones.

deathwing_marine
23-04-2009, 22:05
I don't know, I think that the white plumes look cool! They are very vibrant. White face plates would go great with them.

spekkiebig
24-04-2009, 07:18
I don't know, I think that the white plumes look cool! They are very vibrant. White face plates would go great with them.

Yeah.... NOT! :cries:

Go for the blackones Ganymene. White ones would look terrible.

Ganymene
24-04-2009, 09:35
Thanks everyone for weighing in on their plumes. It seems as though most of you prefer the black/purple plumes to the white ones. The problem it seems as that everyone who saw them today in person told me that the white ones would look better. :confused:

I, myself, kind of like the way the white ones look on top of their helmets. What I am going to do is I am going to paint them white, then I will make a final decision as to what their final color should be (painting the black/purple over white is no problem, but the other way around is). I put some bleached bone down on about half of them as a start, then I will blend some white into it and see how it comes out. If it looks terrible, I can always go over it with black.

The main reason I have been thinking this is that the Banshees hair will be white and the Warp Spiders helmets will be white, I have already decided on those two, and I think it will help tie the Aspect Warriors together. But, as I said, if I it looks awful after I have done some more work, I can always go over it with black.


Okay, as I had hoped, I had some more time to work on the Dire Avengers today. I finished the black completely, and started on the gold. As Dezmord suggested, I laid down some color before I put any gold down against the orange/red. I think it really helps to define the gold areas nicely. It is difficult to see because of the way I cropped the picture (sorry), but it is there and I think it really looks good. I used Scorched Brown (thanks Radium) as the undercoat, after a few tests, the brown was slightly less harsh against the red/orange than the black, so I went with it.



Dire Avengers
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger22.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger23.jpg



I'm getting very close to finishing these guys. I only have the remaining gold, gemstones, and the highlighting (and of course the plumes, but those go quick) to do before they are ready. Then I can finish the Exarch and their Wave Serpent.

Elazrar, I am waiting for some things in the mail before I can finish building the new and improved Autarch. But, I assure you, as soon as they arrive, I will get him ready and take some pictures.

Also, because of the recent news about Planetstrike (mainly defenders being able to take six Heavy Support, also Apocalypse) I will be doing more Wraithlords to go with the three I already have. But, that isn't until June (I think), so for now we will have to put up with me getting as many Aspect Warriors painted as possible.

deathwing_marine
24-04-2009, 19:48
Yeah.... NOT! :cries:

Go for the blackones Ganymene. White ones would look terrible.


Thanks everyone for weighing in on their plumes. It seems as though most of you prefer the black/purple plumes to the white ones. The problem it seems as that everyone who saw them today in person told me that the white ones would look better. :confused:

Ha! Go white plumes!

Threeshades
24-04-2009, 22:57
I am currently using the Wraithseer to represent Eldrad. My gaming group is very laid back about 'counts as'. We prefer to put unique models and interesting conversions above the standard 'tournament' rules for basing and line of sight. If there is ever a problem, we always work it out to be fair.


Im not so much concerned with line of sight as with the profile. S3 and T4 for such a giant seems slightly inappropriate. I don't want to say you shouldn't do it I just dont think its too much fun to represent such a giant with such a frail statline. Seems unsuitable to me.

Some houserules for a psyker wraithlord would be awesome though. I think wraithlords should generally be "aspect-pathable". So to say customizable in a way to show that they used to belong to a warrior aspect. But except for psychic ones there shouldnt be any fundamental changes. just some special equipment or something.
Did Exarchs remain in their spirit stones or do they go directly to the warp when they die? I dont remember anymore i only know they cant enter the infinity curcuit for some reason anymore. If they remained in their stones it would be cool to "fluff" these aspect wraithlords as the souls of exarchs.

Ganymene
24-04-2009, 23:14
Red Dire Avengers?? Looks good!

Thanks, I wanted to keep the colors consistent throughout the army. I like the Aspect Temple colors, but I think they look disjointed when all on the table together. I thought about incorporating their temple colors into part of their armor, but I thought that some of the colors would clash with the red and orange.


Ha! Go white plumes!

For now, if I end up hating them, I will be reverting to the black/purple ones. We'll just have to wait and see how they turn out.


Im not so much concerned with line of sight as with the profile. S3 and T4 for such a giant seems slightly inappropriate. I don't want to say you shouldn't do it I just dont think its too much fun to represent such a giant with such a frail statline. Seems unsuitable to me.

Some houserules for a psyker wraithlord would be awesome though. I think wraithlords should generally be "aspect-pathable". So to say customizable in a way to show that they used to belong to a warrior aspect. But except for psychic ones there shouldnt be any fundamental changes. just some special equipment or something.
Did Exarchs remain in their spirit stones or do they go directly to the warp when they die? I dont remember anymore i only know they cant enter the infinity curcuit for some reason anymore. If they remained in their stones it would be cool to "fluff" these aspect wraithlords as the souls of exarchs.

Yeah, the strength/toughness of the Wraithlord don't really match up with his stats in normal games, but for Apocalypse (what I'm working towards) he will be getting special rules and stats that fit the model a little more (think: Eldrad's Spirit Stone was placed in a Wraithlord). I use him in normal games because I love the conversion and would hate to have it sit on the shelf for those occasional Apocalypse games.

As far as Aspect Wraithlords, I have been planning to make one for each Aspect for Apocalypse. I am currently thinking up rules and equipment for all of them. Keep an eye on the Rules Development Forum, I will be putting them up there for everyone to review. I will also be (eventually) doing some other Wraithlord projects (i.e. Iyanna of Iyanden and her Wraithlord buddy, etc...).

cruise
25-04-2009, 01:24
The plumes with (I presume) the bleached bone on is fine - it's just brown enough that it doesn't look out of place against the red/orange suit. The white plumes just look unfinished in the photos.

It may simply be a question of highlighting not showing up in the pictures, and certainly if you have white helmets/hair on the other aspects it would provide a nice unifying detail.

Ganymene
25-04-2009, 02:34
The plumes with (I presume) the bleached bone on is fine - it's just brown enough that it doesn't look out of place against the red/orange suit. The white plumes just look unfinished in the photos.

It may simply be a question of highlighting not showing up in the pictures, and certainly if you have white helmets/hair on the other aspects it would provide a nice unifying detail.

The white plumes are unfinished in the photos. The only ones I have touched are the ones that have Bleached Bone on them, and that's just the first coat.

They white ones are still only (barely) covered by a basecoat. I am going to try to blend up to white from the Bleached Bone, while still keeping the Bleached Bone noticeable.

Ganymene
30-04-2009, 10:56
Okay, the end is in sight for the Dire Avengers.

I have put on the gold on everything, as well as the gems. They are lacking highlights as of right now, but that is a quick process. I still need to go over them and clean up all the gold/black areas, and clean around the gems a bit.

Other than that, plumes, and basing, they are almost complete. I'll be glad to start on something different. Their Exarch and Wave Serpent are next up on the painting list, but I also have some new stuff to build, as well as the Autarch to finish. Once the Autarch is finished, he will be next in line after the Wave Serpent.

Here's some pictures.


Dire Avengers (before cleanup)
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger24.jpg

I notice in these pictures, that the spots in the middle of their plumes are starting to rub off where I have been holding them. And I think I need to go over the mold lines one more time.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger25.jpg

Also need to blend the gems a little better on their catapults.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger26.jpg



Also, I mentioned something about trying freehand on their masks earlier. Please disregard those statements. I tries a little and it was a miserable failure. I still need a lot of practice before I can pull something like that off. I am not giving up though. I will keep practicing, and you may eventually see some freehand, but it will not be for a while.

Dezmord
30-04-2009, 13:31
I like them very much now. Even the light plumes seem to work :D

Elazar The Glorified
30-04-2009, 14:21
Looking good Ganymene! Shame about the freehand idea, I have the same problem. I keep practising but painting the face masks on those minis would be very very fiddly I reckon. Still, gives you something to aim towards! :) Anyway, they're coming along very nicely and I have to agree with Dezmord, the plumes are looking better now with the bleached bone shade in there. Looking forward to seeing them finished with the highlights.

Ganymene
30-04-2009, 21:21
I like them very much now. Even the light plumes seem to work :D

Glad to here that Dezmord. :) I think the Bleached Bone gives them a little more definition. If I am going to go with the white, it needs to look like it is painted white, instead of just looking primed/unfinished. I am going to add a few more highlights to the plumes, so they are less monotone.


Looking good Ganymene! Shame about the freehand idea, I have the same problem. I keep practising but painting the face masks on those minis would be very very fiddly I reckon. Still, gives you something to aim towards! :) Anyway, they're coming along very nicely and I have to agree with Dezmord, the plumes are looking better now with the bleached bone shade in there. Looking forward to seeing them finished with the highlights.

Thanks Elazar! Yep, the freehand was much more difficult than I had thought. It seemed fairly straightforward, until I actually paid attention to how small their masks really are. :) I am going to keep trying, I want to have some interesting designs somewhere in the army, perhaps on the cloaks of some of the psykers...

As of right now, I am really liking the white plumes. This is, however, without the highlights on the armor. The whole look will change when I get that purple on them. Hopefully I can make a decision after the highlights are finished, so I can get the squad finished and move onto the next.

ManusMarines
01-05-2009, 02:03
As always, great stuff. It's interesting seeing how the models look online as compared to what they look like when you've got them on our table.

I demand you finish these avengers so they can die in a hail of Lasgun fire. Preferably sooner than later :)

Ganymene
01-05-2009, 08:03
As always, great stuff. It's interesting seeing how the models look online as compared to what they look like when you've got them on our table.

I demand you finish these avengers so they can die in a hail of Lasgun fire. Preferably sooner than later :)

Thanks Scott, the Avengers should be ready to go next week sometime. Their Wave Serpent, maybe not, but the Avengers and their Exarch, definitely.

Radium
02-05-2009, 07:35
You really improved a lot on those avengers! Nice work ganymene, now go off and paint some more :D!

Ganymene
02-05-2009, 07:52
You really improved a lot on those avengers! Nice work ganymene, now go off and paint some more :D!

Thanks Radium! I am really enjoying painting them, hopefully they will be finished next week. I am getting anxious to start on the Exarch. :)

weirdo2590
02-05-2009, 22:51
I've just finished all 11 pages of your log and I love your models. The conversions are awesome and that avatar is the nicest one I've ever seen. Stolen couple of your cutsom posings for the dark kin hope ya dont mind :p

Any chance we could get a group shoot of everything you've painted so far? Would be nice to see them as an army.

Ganymene
03-05-2009, 23:52
I've just finished all 11 pages of your log and I love your models. The conversions are awesome and that avatar is the nicest one I've ever seen. Stolen couple of your cutsom posings for the dark kin hope ya dont mind :p

Any chance we could get a group shoot of everything you've painted so far? Would be nice to see them as an army.

Thanks! I'm glad you took the time to look through everything. :)

Be my guest and use anything you'd like to.

I can get a group shot together, but most of it is only in the middle stages of painting. Technically the only thing that is actually finished is the Avatar, but I'll get an 'in-progress' shot of the everything together once the Avengers are finished.

Ganymene
06-05-2009, 09:20
Had some extra time to paint today...

The only thing left to do on the Avengers is the highlighting and final clean-up. I did the plumes by starting off with a base of Dheneb Stone. I then put a thin layer of Bleached Bone down, followed by a light coat of Skull White. The plumes look very white in the pictures, but in real life they are actually a little darker.

I also took a small break from the Avengers and did some detail work on one of the Wraithlords. I have some pictures of him to, there will be more in the next post (I think everyone probably wants to see something besides Avengers anyway).


Dire Avengers (almost finished)
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger27.jpg


Wraithlord
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord22.jpg

More in the next post...

Ganymene
06-05-2009, 09:21
The few things I did were: cleaned up the blending a bit, Spirit Stone on his chest, and gems on the weapons.

I thought about doing some gems on his body, but the green really clashes horribly with the orange of his body, so no gems there.

Wraithlord
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord23.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord24.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord25.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Wraithlord26.jpg


After a month straight of Dire Avengers, I think it was nice to switch it up a little. There is a little more to do on him, but not much. I am not exactly sure what else to so with him, but if anything occurs, I will post some pictures.

The Avengers will be finished some time this week. I also probably will not have an update next week because of my final exams, but after they are over, I will have plenty of time to work on everything.

Elazar The Glorified
06-05-2009, 09:32
Getting there with the Dire Avengers! :) The plumes do look quite white in the pictures but the colour is growing on me now. The Wraithlord is looking tasty, the gems look good judging by the pictures. Good luck with your exams!

Ganymene
06-05-2009, 09:46
Getting there with the Dire Avengers! :) The plumes do look quite white in the pictures but the colour is growing on me now.

Thanks Elazar, I think the plumes look so bright in the pictures because there is very little contrast with the background (I'll have to figure out a way to fix that). I'm glad you are starting to like the white plumes. I think they break up the colors just enough to make a difference.


The Wraithlord is looking tasty, the gems look good judging by the pictures.

I really like the gems on him. I'm particularly proud of the gold around his Spirit Stone (on his chest). I had to paint the gold freehand around the already painted gem, to separate the colors. I think it turned out pretty well considering how bad I am at freehand. :)


Good luck with your exams!

Thanks, once they are finished I'll get a nice long break and not have to worry about studying for a while. :)

spekkiebig
06-05-2009, 11:29
Nice work on the Avengers and the Wraithlord Ganymene. It's about time you start finishing up models instead of starting painting new ones all the time! :evilgrin:

Dezmord
06-05-2009, 14:12
Once again your blending is simply awesome. The avengers plumes also fit very nice with the rest. I was sceptical at first but I think I like them now.

Any plans how you do the wraithlords sword or will it stay black?

Oh, and good luck for your exams!

Ganymene
06-05-2009, 23:10
Nice work on the Avengers and the Wraithlord Ganymene. It's about time you start finishing up models instead of starting painting new ones all the time! :evilgrin:

Thanks spekkiebig, staying focused on finishing models is my biggest problem. Because I am a slow painter I find myself wanting to move on to other things all the time. This log and everyone's comments has helped me to stay on track. :)


Once again your blending is simply awesome. The avengers plumes also fit very nice with the rest. I was sceptical at first but I think I like them now.

Any plans how you do the wraithlords sword or will it stay black?

Thanks Dezmord, the sword is black with purple highlights (that don't show up in the pictures), but I was thinking about highlighting the purple a bit more. It currently has Liche Purple highlights (like all the black), but I was thinking about highlighting the blade further with some Warlock Purple. I will give it a try and see how it turns out. :)


Oh, and good luck for your exams!

Thanks, I'm looking forward to having more free time to work on things.

Ganymene
08-05-2009, 11:12
Okay, one more small update before I disappear for a week to study.

I received a package today filled with resin heads. This was the last piece of the Autarch. I took some time today to put him together and get the basics out of the way. He only needs a little more gap filling and smoothing with greenstuff and he will be ready to paint.

I'd also like to thank Morthai (http://warseer.com/forums/member.php?u=87) for casting up the heads for me. He did a great job on them.

I also wrote some fluff to accompany my new Autarch, hope you enjoy reading it. :)



***

The Eldar of Craftworld Yirraith-Ra are known for their extensive use of Wraithbone constructs and necromancy. The Craftworld is populated by many Spiritseers trained in the coaxing of Eldar souls from the infinite circuit. But, unlike other Craftworlds, the Eldar of this place see it as an honor and a privilege to be placed inside the great constructs and continue to fight for the Eldar race.

Due to Yirraith-Ra's proximity to the Eye of Terror and it's constant bombardment by warp energy, it is becoming increasingly more difficult for the inhabitants to bear children. Because of this, every Eldar is required to take up the path of the warrior before following any other path. Though with so few Eldar being birthed, the leaders of the Craftworld began to look for other ways to survive.

The Craftworld's Seers have been experimenting with new technology that could make Eldar warriors much more resilient and possibly, with much research, immortal. They have kept this research hidden from other Craftworlds, as they fear their experiments will be looked upon unfavorably. The Seers know the other Craftworlds aversion to using souls from the infinity circuit to power the Wraithbone constructs.

Kangaxx, one of Yirraith-Ra's mightiest Autarchs, stepped forward to be given the gift. The fusion of living Eldar tissue and the psycho-plastic Wraithbone. Kangaxx accepted the blessing willingly and felt honored to be the first of his kind.

When he emerged, he was changed. Fused with the Wraithbone, and his psychic presence magnified. The Wraithbone amplified his natural psychic power almost to the level of the Bonesingers, who attended to the Wraithbone forests and built the mighty constructs. Being a natural warrior, Kangaxx was given a weapon that would allow him to use this psychic energy in battle. The 'Wrath of Ynnead', a Singing Spear which allows Kangaxx to focus his psychic energy through the blade and into the souls of his enemies. In addition to his physical weapon, Kangaxx was gifted with an additional power by the Wraithbone. He learned that if he concentrated his psychic energy through his living Wraithbone body, he could create an aura of powerful psychic distortion around himself, though he could only do it for a short time, it would destroy any foe that may attack him.


***



Kangaxx, Autarch of Yirraith-Ra
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Autarch07.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Autarch08.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Autarch09.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Autarch10.jpg


The pictures make him look slightly out of proportion because of the bent leg (the last one is probably the closest). The Wraith head was perfect for what I was trying to achieve. I did have to sand the base for the head down a bit and mount it behind the head, but I like it a lot. It is exactly how I was envisioning him.

spekkiebig
08-05-2009, 11:29
Cool coversion Ganymene! Very in theme with the army. Good luck with the study.

Ganymene
08-05-2009, 12:03
Cool coversion Ganymene! Very in theme with the army. Good luck with the study.

Thanks spekkiebig! I am trying to keep everything in theme (and make it look cool of course). I really like the Wraith designs and thought that if I was going to make a 'counts as' Yriel, he should be unique. :)

Dezmord
08-05-2009, 12:34
Cool looking autarch! It's interesting to see how you manage to maintain the theme of your army - how about building a wraithseer from a normal seer with one of those casted heads?

Ganymene
08-05-2009, 16:15
Cool looking autarch! It's interesting to see how you manage to maintain the theme of your army - how about building a wraithseer from a normal seer with one of those casted heads?

Thanks Dezmord! I will most likely be doing that in the future. I have an extra Farseer body laying around here somewhere that I really like, but have no use for. It is missing an arm and a head, so is perfect for a conversion. :)

deathwing_marine
11-05-2009, 06:59
I like the Wraith Autarch a lot Ganymene, he should look great painted.

Elazar The Glorified
11-05-2009, 07:27
He's looking awesome Ganymene. Straight out of the top drawer. Like the background fluff to go with him. Really cool idea and you look to have created a mini that has a lot of character and will go very nicely with the rest of your army. Now get him painted! ;)

Ganymene
11-05-2009, 07:56
I like the Wraith Autarch a lot Ganymene, he should look great painted.

Thanks deathwing_marine, I can't wait to start painting him. I will get to him after I finish the Dire Avenger Exarch.


He's looking awesome Ganymene. Straight out of the top drawer. Like the background fluff to go with him. Really cool idea and you look to have created a mini that has a lot of character and will go very nicely with the rest of your army. Now get him painted! ;)

Thanks Elazar, I really enjoyed cutting him up and converting him. I'm glad I went with this new version rather than the first. I'm glad you liked the story. I was trying to make the Craftworld at least a little unique, and trying to justify Yriel's special rules without copying them. :)

Morthai
11-05-2009, 22:46
Nice conversion and piece of fluff for your autarch. I was wondering what ware going to use heads for and I must admit, it was worth to wait to see the final result ;)

Ganymene
11-05-2009, 22:56
Nice conversion and piece of fluff for your autarch. I was wondering what ware going to use heads for and I must admit, it was worth to wait to see the final result ;)

Thanks Morthai! I was looking at the Autarch after I had contacted you, and thought 'he needs to be totally unique'. Then I put two and two together and came up with the idea. I will also be making a Farseer with one of the heads as well, but I'll have to wait a little bit before I get to that one. :)

Ganymene
14-05-2009, 00:46
Well, school is over and I have a small update.

I finished the highlighting on the Dire Avengers. Pretty much the only thing left for these guys is final cleanup and basing. I also added some gems to my Wraithseer. He also needs some more cleanup and basing.

Not much else to say about the Dire Avengers. Hopefully I can get some work done on the Exarch tonight if I have some time. Onto the pictures...


Dire Avengers
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger28.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger29.jpg


Again, my camera seems to be washing out the plumes and making them extremely bright. I haven't figured out how to get the darker parts to show up, but the plumes are shaded.

Ganymene
14-05-2009, 00:47
I added gems all over his weapons. I also added some gold to his knuckles as I did on the other Wraithlord. I need to finish blending his cloak (it's in initial stages of blending now) and do the base.

Farseer Ancient
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Farseer06.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Farseer07.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/Farseer08.jpg


The pictures are kind of small, but you get the idea.


I have been contemplating adding more gold to him and the other Wraithlords. I am not sure though, I really like how the gold came out on the back of their hands. I don't want to paint every single gem on their bodies. I was thinking of only adding the gold to their armor, but not sure how that would look. I was thinking only on the torso, legs, and hip plates.

Neo Ninja
14-05-2009, 06:59
Very interesting and unique colour scheme, brilliant blending and excellent conversions. :)

ManusMarines
14-05-2009, 07:51
Did you extend his spear? It looks more gigantic than usual for some reason..

Anyways, less random postings, and more CSI/Painting sessions. :D

deathwing_marine
14-05-2009, 08:57
Anyways, less random postings, and more CSI/Painting sessions. :D

Dude, I do that too! :D

Ganymene
14-05-2009, 09:35
Very interesting and unique colour scheme, brilliant blending and excellent conversions. :)

Thanks! There will be plenty more conversions in the future I promise you. :)



Did you extend his spear? It looks more gigantic than usual for some reason..

Anyways, less random postings, and more CSI/Painting sessions. :D


Nope, the spear is the same one it has always been. It probably just looks huge because it is a profile view. Also, I agree, more CSI and painting!



Dude, I do that too! :D

It is by far the best show to watch when painting for long periods of time. :D





Well, I did about two hours worth of work on the Dire Avenger Exarch. I finished the armor, laid down the black, and started on the gold. I would post some pictures, but Photobucket seems to be down at the moment. :mad: Next time I can upload some pictures, I will post my current progress.

Ganymene
15-05-2009, 02:15
Well, photobucket is back up, so I have pictures of the Exarch for you. Like I said, I finished the armor (maybe some more highlights and clean up the blend on his left thigh), painted all the black (needs some touchups), and started on the gold. He still needs a lot of work, but it will go quickly as he is the only model I am working on currently.

Looking at the pictures, I need to clean up the eyes a bit and it looks like I got a little sloppy with the brown on his helmet rune (also, please ignore the cat wisker, don't know how that snuck in there).

Dire Avenger Exarch work-in-progress
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger30.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger31.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e180/Ganymene/DireAvenger32.jpg

Dezmord
15-05-2009, 07:46
Once again very nice blending (you should start making some painting-mistakes - there would be more room for critique then :D). I think he'll be a wonderful addition to the unit.

ManusMarines
15-05-2009, 08:06
Very BA, if you can call T3 Space Elves Bad ass :)

If Eldar used regular bullets I would totally suggest strapping a bandolier across his chest.

Nice work, as always.

DasKhorne
15-05-2009, 08:19
In a way, i could imagine the Exarch saying "Say hello to my little friends":D

Nice scheme:cool:

Ganymene
15-05-2009, 08:43
Once again very nice blending (you should start making some painting-mistakes - there would be more room for critique then :D). I think he'll be a wonderful addition to the unit.

Thanks Dezmord! I make plenty of mistakes, I just don't show those pictures. :D Though, I do need to clean the blending up a little bit in certain areas.


Very BA, if you can call T3 Space Elves Bad ass :)

If Eldar used regular bullets I would totally suggest strapping a bandolier across his chest.

Nice work, as always.

Thanks Scott! With helmets that huge, how could they not be badass!


In a way, i could imagine the Exarch saying "Say hello to my little friends":D

Nice scheme:cool:

Thanks, that's pretty much what I was going for with the dual Catapults. :evilgrin:

Elazar The Glorified
15-05-2009, 10:54
Looking good Ganymene, the blending is as nice as ever. Is he going to have the white plumes as well or are you going to put a pattern in for the exarch?

Ganymene
15-05-2009, 16:40
Looking good Ganymene, the blending is as nice as ever. Is he going to have the white plumes as well or are you going to put a pattern in for the exarch?

Thanks Elazar, I am going to keep his plume white to keep him consistent with the others. I like having his pose and equipment make him stand out rather than an altered paint job. :)