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Lord General Laumnem
09-11-2008, 16:58
There is also a thread in the Rules development forum as I wasn't sure which it went in!

Ok, the Basic idea around the expansion is a world War, War only on the Earth (or terra), the Moon, and Mars.

There would be mostly modern day countries but a few places (such as asia and africa) have been destroyed by war and there are only warbands left there struggling to capture resources (Oil, Food, Water), which the entire War willbe about, Mars for Iron, and the moon for more space for Space Programmes.

Mostly The "sides" will be divided into Continents (which eventually change into each of the different houses that the emporer - who eventually comes into the game with geneticaly engineered warriors) so there will be 5 main sides:

USA and South America.
The USA invaded Mexico in an attempt to get more food for it's over grown population, then when it had used up most of Mexico's resources, it invaded south America, capturing banana plantations.
Countries:
USA
Mexico (vassal)
South America (vassal)

Europe and Canada
The EU evolved into much more than a trade union, and eventually Europe was almost completely united, going to war together, allying together, and sharing resources. America Attempted to Invade Canada, which made allies with Europe to protect itself, The invading American forces where pushed back to the original border.
Countries:
Britain
France
Germany
Canada
Spain
Portugal
Sweden
Netherlands
Belguim
UEE (United Eastern Europe)
Norway and Denmark.

Oceania
Australia and New zealand allied together when their resources began to run short, quickly realising that they would have to be clever to survive, After the fall of China they invaded south eastern Asia, conquering many countries including india.
Countires:
Australia
New Zealand
Siam (Vassal)
India (vassal)

Asia
The Main countries in Asia where Russia, China, and Japan. The middle east united but where dfeated in a great war over the Oil there. China and Japan both tried to expand in the same areas, and quickly tension grew between them. A massive hurracaine and tsunami hit China in the late 83 hundreds, and seeing an opportunity, many countries attacke dit, including Japan. Russia decided to stay neutral during this war as it's borders were being threaten by America and Europe. China no longer controlled any more of the original China, and instead controlled Mongolia instead, fighting bitter wars against Oceana in the south. China eventualy surrndered most of it's land to Japan, and became their vassals.
Countries:
Russia
Japan
China (vassal)
Middle East (vassal)

Africa
Africa is still in trouble, it no longer has thousands of warring tribes, but has been invaded so much by europe and America that it is fighting for it's own survival. All the Countries have Formed into one simply called: Africa. These fighters still occasionaly use horses, and are fast hit and run fighters.
Countries:
African Rebels.



These are the Basic ideas for the 5 "sides" or alliances, if it is possible it would be quite cool (if this is popular) to have a permananent onlien campaign - so every game you play can count!

The Armies will use imperial Guard rules with doctrines for each country that the Player can pick 3 from a list of around 7. There will also be special rules for fighting on mars and the Moon.

I am in the procsess of writing some Fluff based on a British lad, who joins up with an idea of Glory and the like, and gets tranfered from the "Lunar Corps" to the "Mars Corps" down to the "Terra Corps" and so experiences alot of combat and learns alot about the world he lives in.

The Idea isn't just to collect an Army of where you live, I my self am going to Toy with the Idea of Australian Troops base don catachans, or maybe be boring and British

I've tried to make it as unbias, realistic, and beleiveable as possible!

Chem-Dog
09-11-2008, 17:33
All looks jolly good, Not sure if, as is, it's a Warhammer™ franchise YET.

There are some pretty specific geopolitical arrangements in the 40K backhistory and, although only really hinted at (unless anyone who has access to Dark Future can correct me).
Although Timelining is pretty hazy (what little I know comes from the Horus Heresy series and even then, it's steeped in superstition and myth) there are going to be issues of DAoT tech and stuff in there, maybe even the "Iron Men".

Luthien
09-11-2008, 17:48
I would dig this, I love the unexplored pre-history of 40k, the transition from modern to future periods yano :D

totgeboren
09-11-2008, 17:55
I really have a hard time beliving the geopolitical situation would be so similar 8000 years into the future. This sounds like maybe 500 years into the future tops.

Still, IG vs IG battles are maybe the most fun 40k battles you can fight. As long as its objective based, forcing both sides to advance.

t-tauri
09-11-2008, 17:58
Off to Rules development.

Lord General Laumnem
09-11-2008, 20:14
Ok, could you Delete the other version of this (which was already in rules dev.)? Just follow the link in my sig to find it!

Lord General Laumnem
09-11-2008, 20:34
One thing I ahd as an Idea, is that Instead of the Static timeline of 40k, this would be ongoeing, with an ongoing campaign which would directly affect the future (until of course the emporer comes and crushes everyone with his geneticaly engineered warriors, and maybe even Iron Men MK I) of the game. I even ahve some ideas of odd twists in the story line which would be highly enjoyable, such as the first Titan being created, where other Countries rally together to destroy it before it takes over the world.

I was planning on using the "Risk" Board Game map as the main campaign map - with some system of letting Players decide where their country/alliance attacks, obviously an Online campaign, where there are maybe different forums for each Alliance or something.


Or maybe I'm being too ambitious!

Simon Sez
10-11-2008, 11:01
Considering Brazil, China, India and South Asia are pegged to be the Superpowers of the next generation I think the focus for a future war would be better aimed at them.

There is also the possibility of North American unionisation to consider.

There is the Middle-Easts efforts to continue to be a factor as reliance on Oil is chipped away by domestic reserves and the growing market of renewables.

Israel will likely always remain a hotspot, with protection from possible EU status and Israeli/US relations any aggression towards it would suffer massive retaliation.

I guess any WW3 scenario would likely depend on two Superpowers chafing against each other with very different policies and culture and a history of conflict, and the effects of Great War style pledges and friendships existant today and likely to grow.

malika
10-11-2008, 11:08
Why not use the Age of Strife Terra as a basis instead? There is some more info on that at least and it would definitely be closer to the 40k universe.

omera
10-11-2008, 12:35
I think in the year 10,000, we'd be colonizing other worlds and have no need to invade each other.
Well, more like the year 2,150.

Simon Sez
10-11-2008, 13:41
I think in the year 10,000, we'd be colonizing other worlds and have no need to invade each other.
Well, more like the year 2,150.Assuming firstly, that Earthlings somehow learn to get along, that space colonisation does prove worthwhile and that spacial colonies grow in communities with entrenched affinity to their home celestial body...

Solar War I
A Breakdown in relations between Jovians (Those who inhabit Callisto, Europa, Ganymede and the floating cities of Jupiters atmosphere) and the Government of Mars over trade pacts is escalating to dangerous levels, the Governing Solar Body (GSB) located on Lagrangian Point 2 is facing increased criticisms of Terrestrialism and lacking a vested interested in Outbelt conditions. Astral Belt mining colonies are being recalled or instructed to jetisson on an orbit to dock in geosynchronous orbit around perennially neutral Ceres. The fledgling colony of Titan vouches for its neighbour if it plans to survive the next rotation. Mass Drivers are targeted with accuracy that predicts the ebb and flow of the cosmos, spacecraft that once carried water and minerals are retrofitted for troops and engagements, entire industries halt their efforts in a labour of war-making. This war shall be fought in the cold blackness of the void, there shall be no quarter...

In Space, no one can hear you surrender.

Lord General Laumnem
10-11-2008, 17:20
Brazil has been invaded by the USA.

The Middle-east fights amoung itself too much.

India has also been invaded as with South asia.

China has been hit by tropical storms and invaded.

Geopolitcal status wont change much until countries get aggresive - which they arn't now.