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Nicha11
12-11-2008, 04:17
Ok i want to see the cheesiest lists you can come up with, the type of
stuff that would have you thrown out of your club.

Stuff like Steam Tanks and Pope Mobiles or the dreaded Tzeentch flying circus.

Lets see some cheese :cheese::cheese::cheese:

Lord Dan
12-11-2008, 04:24
Dark Elf Supreme Sorcereress
Sorceress
Sorceress
Sorceress

25 warriors
25 warriors
10 crossbowmen
10 crossbowmen
10 crossbowmen
10 crossbowmen
5 Harpies
5 Harpies

6 Shades
6 Shades

Bolt Thrower
Bolt Thrower
Bolt Thrower
Bolt Thrower

Then with whatever points you have left, buy more of anything that shoots.

Nicha11
12-11-2008, 07:37
Come on Warseer is that all you have?

People are constantly complaining about "cheesy armies" and yet so far
there is only one listed. Can nobody come up with anyone else?

Kamizanate
12-11-2008, 08:28
Throgg
14 Units of Trolls

orkz222
12-11-2008, 08:48
grey seer- tenabrous cloak , eye of horn rat , that lvl 5 bound item that hit flying troops

engineer x3 - warp blades, acc, condenser
1x storm deamon, 4x disepl or warpstones

20 clanrat x4

rating x 4

24 storm vermin

warp fire thrower x 1

12 jezz

glodediers x 6

warp lightning cannon x 2

some stuffs i rem fielding with my SAD skaven. Long time since i play this list.

the blind knight
12-11-2008, 08:53
Karl franz on dragon

10 handgunners

10 handgunners

steam tank

steam tank


I win:p

mistformsquirrel
12-11-2008, 09:05
Believe it or not, I came up with this idea as a theme - after I finished writing the list I realized most people would probably want to shoot me for playing it >.>

Characters:

Prince w/ Star Dragon, Lance, Talisman of Saphery, Armor of Caledor, Shield, Amulet of Light

Dragon Mage w/ Upgrade to level 2, Staff of Solidity, Jewel of Dusk, Silver Wand

Core:

10 Archers

10 Archers

Special:

5 Dragon Princes of Caledor w/ Musician

5 Dragon Princes of Caledor w/ Musician

5 Dragon Princes of Caledor w/ Musician

5 Dragon Princes of Caledor w/ Musician

Rare:

Great Eagle

Total: 1960pts

I'm sure there's far cheesier lists out there, but like I said, when I came up with it I was actually going for a theme rather than "how hard can I make this army?"

Briohmar
12-11-2008, 10:02
BloodThirster of Khorne with all the nasty stuff

3 Tzeentch Heralds with flames of Tzeentch, two with flying, third with dispell

3 X 10 Horrors
6 Furies
5 Fleshhounds
3 Screamers
4 Screamers
2 X 6 Flamers.

Unfortunately it doesn't get you kicked out of the club, as I faced it last weekend. It is the Daemonic Gunline, the entire army just moves back two inches per turn except for the screamers who fly across two units per turn. And then the hounds and BT attack anything that actually makes it through the barrage.

madden
12-11-2008, 10:19
Entire cold one cav army from lizards with 2 plus carnosaurs and some stegadons as well dino army of fear and doom. or hundreds of skink skermishers with blow pipes and max salamanders, all legal but i couldn't give points i'm not the type to try these armys.

Chicago Slim
12-11-2008, 11:15
There is no cheese.

There is list-legal, and not-legal. I'm happy to face any of the armies above, and the spirit of my local club reflects that-- no whining, no blaming, just play the game and have fun.

Seriously, try it some time. It's a much better game...

Conotor
12-11-2008, 11:34
I'm happy to face any of the armies above,


Even the DE crossbowline? That would be the most boring game ever. You just walk forwards and die. You probably wouldn't even get into combat, except with his skirmishers.

Finnigan2004
12-11-2008, 12:34
There is no cheese.

There is list-legal, and not-legal. I'm happy to face any of the armies above, and the spirit of my local club reflects that-- no whining, no blaming, just play the game and have fun.

Seriously, try it some time. It's a much better game...

You realize that this sort of positivity will get the thread locked here on warseer :p. Now, where are those mods...

Disciple of Caliban
12-11-2008, 12:59
Chicago, why bother replying if thats your opinion? If you dont believe cheese exists then dont go into threads on the subject, but coming in just to try and say that anyone who believes in cheese doesnt know how to have fun playing the game is appaling, have you played all the members on warseer, how do you know they dont enjoy playing, even against armies they consider 'cheesy'.

Blind Knight, unless i'm missing something (quite possible, havent read the latest empire book in a long while) your list is illegal, and needs another unit of handgunners to be legit.


Now, my turn, i'll try something a little unusual and go for Wood Elf Cheese!

Orion

1425 points worth of wild riders (works out as about 45 wild riders, depending on kit and command options)

Ok, they cant do anything against a stank, or anything against any army composed of toughness 4+ models with a good save, but they should utterly brutalize most infantry based lists, even gunlines, which simply wouldnt be able to put enough down before they charge on turn 2 (which they will because everything has M9)

skank
12-11-2008, 13:58
From 'General of chaos' on daemic legion website, damn, this guy i good at this:

Fateweaver [General]
Skulltaker / on Juggernault
Tzeentch Herald w/ Power Vortex & Wings
Tzeentch Herald w/ Power Vortex & Wings

10 Horrors w/Changling
10 Horrors
10 Horrors

5 Flesh Hounds
5 Flesh Hounds

6 Flamers
3 Flamers

Eeek!

EvC
12-11-2008, 14:19
What are the three types of armies thet get the most complaints? Dragons, magic heavy, and gunline. So, my mate put all three together to make a Dragunline:
Supreme Sorceress on Black Dragon, Focus Familiar, Pendant, Lifetaker
2 x 2 Level 2s
10 Crossbowmen
2 x 5 Dark Riders, RXB
3-4 units of Shades
2 RBT
Hydra

So around 100 shots a turn and lots of power dice. And some of the most miserable games of my life.

Putty
12-11-2008, 17:45
64 marauders. MoN. mus, std, light armor, shield
1 champion + Banner of the Gods BSB

Wulfric + 19 marauders MoK, mus, std, great weapons, light armor

two warshrine, MoT

5 knights, MoN, std, mus

i think there is left-over points for warhounds.

blackjack
12-11-2008, 19:35
Some complain that this list is cheese.

29 Horrors Full Command, Icon of Sorc
29 Horrors Champ, Icon of Sorc
10 Horrors

Herald of Tz, Power Vortex
Herald of Tz, Power Vortex
Herald of Tz, Power Vortex, BSB

6 Flesh Hounds
6 Flesh Hounds

2 Fiends
2 Fiends

18 power dice, 2 bolts of change, and 5 flickering fires per turn...

But it dies like a sack in the anti magic scenario and as soon as you get into HtH this list is not so spechial anymore...

isidril93
12-11-2008, 19:39
does this count

high elves
2xmages (any combos)
2x15 spearmen
6x15 swordmasters

Lord Dan
12-11-2008, 19:51
There is no cheese.

There is list-legal, and not-legal. I'm happy to face any of the armies above, and the spirit of my local club reflects that-- no whining, no blaming, just play the game and have fun.

Seriously, try it some time. It's a much better game...

You're free to game how you want, but pretending that someone else's opinion is nonexistant is pretty narrow minded. More importantly, your last comment is equally ignorant, if not outright rude. The implication that you're somehow a better gamer by accepting all lists no matter the build is foolish and arrogant.

Malorian
12-11-2008, 20:05
If I want to smash someone this is what I bring out:

Paladin w/ horse, shield
Paladin *BSB* w/ horse, warbanner, virtue of duty

9 KE w/ FC, errantry banner
8 KotR w/ FC
8 KotR w/ FC
9 KotR w/ FC
9 KotR w/ FC
15 skirmishing archers

5 pegasus knights
9 questing knigts w/ FC

Total: 1998 points

moose
12-11-2008, 20:58
With my tomb kings I can throw out in 2500pts;
20 chariots
2 screaming skull catapaults
35 archers
3 liche priests
1 tomb king with DoE / collar of shapesh
4 tomb scorpions
8 light horsemen

OldMaster
12-11-2008, 21:10
Believe it or not, I came up with this idea as a theme - after I finished writing the list I realized most people would probably want to shoot me for playing it >.>

Characters:

Prince w/ Star Dragon, Lance, Talisman of Saphery, Armor of Caledor, Shield, Amulet of Light

Dragon Mage w/ Upgrade to level 2, Staff of Solidity, Jewel of Dusk, Silver Wand

Core:

10 Archers

10 Archers

Special:

5 Dragon Princes of Caledor w/ Musician

5 Dragon Princes of Caledor w/ Musician

5 Dragon Princes of Caledor w/ Musician

5 Dragon Princes of Caledor w/ Musician

Rare:

Great Eagle

Total: 1960pts

I'm sure there's far cheesier lists out there, but like I said, when I came up with it I was actually going for a theme rather than "how hard can I make this army?"

:eek: 21 sets of Dragon Armour!!!

We're doomed.

I think the only lists I hate to play against are lists where 80%+ of the untis can shoot. And even then, I have no problems with, for example, Wood Elves. I'm talking about Dwarfish and Empire gunlines, (well, Empire in a lesser degree).

Danger Rat
12-11-2008, 22:27
Not sure if this is cheese but i got calls of cheese at my club last week

T king on chariot, chariot of fire 4+ ward save, flail

T Prince on chariot sword of might enchanted shield

2 Liche Priests 2 scrolls cloak of dunes hiretic jar one on steed

16 chariots in units of 4

3 Scorpions

6 Light Horsemen

Lord Dan
12-11-2008, 22:35
I have no problems with, for example, Wood Elves.

Obviously that needs to be remedied!

Alter Lord with bow of loren, arcane bodkins, briarsheath
Noble with HOD arrow
Spellsinger w/ stave, scroll
Spellsinger w/ scroll

10 Glade Guard
10 Glade Guard
10 Glade Guard
10 Glade Guard
10 Scouts
10 Scouts
5 Glade Riders
5 Glade Riders
5 Glade Riders

3 Warhawk Riders
3 Warhawk Riders
3 Warhawk Riders

6 Waywatchers
6 Waywatchers

Not as bad as some, but still annoying for anything on foot.

solvay
12-11-2008, 22:54
well not exactly cheesy compared to some of those other lists but still hated by the few who have played it and feared by those who have seen it massacre

Night goblin great shaman
night goblin shaman
NIght goblin shaman
night goblin bsb

8 spear chukkas

2 giants
5 spider riders
5 spider riders
26 night goblin archers
26 night goblin archers
35 night goblin spearmen
all with 3 fanatics

ive only managed to play 3 games with it so far.. one against 2nd gen lizards one against princes and stardragon elves and once against the new warriors.... the warriors got half points for the general and the elves half for a unit of spider riders

randomhero
12-11-2008, 23:30
Here's a 2250 Pt SAD list i came up with i've never actually used a list like this by the way, i'm not a fan of gun lines and too much magic.

Grey Seer
Tenebrous Cloak
Dispel Scroll
Power Stone
Screaming Bell

Warlock Engineer
Eye of the Horned Rat
Dispel Scroll

Warlock Engineer
Dispel Scroll
Storm Daemon

Warlock Engineer
Warpscroll
Warpstone Token

3 x 20 Clanrats sd mu

3 x Ratling Gun

3 x 10 Warplock Jezzail teams

3 x 4 Poison Wind Globadiers

3 x 1 Giant Rat Pack

14 power dice
8 warpstone tokens

2245 pt

The Cowslayer
13-11-2008, 00:02
well a similar list has already been posted but a friend wanted the baddest list he could build in 2 weeks for last year's (dutch) GT, also using special characters BECAUSE it was allowed and to show they can be kindof broken...

so i wrote him something like this (has been a while)

-fateweaver
-skulltaker on jugger
-blue scribes
-tzeentch herald with fly/master of sorcery (might have replaced it with a scroll not sure)

+/- 28 horrors with +1 to cast
10 horrors
14 bloodletters with some banner and command
5furies

2x 5fleshounds
5/6 flamers

im not sure on the numbers but think that was it

this list just has TOO much magic (fateweaver +scribes :cries:) where you can choose your spells, and some insane combat units with the speed to get to anywhere you want (unseen lurker anyone?)

the list that actually won the tournament was even worse, although not using special characters:

something like:

bloodthirster
3x tzeentch herald in flying chariot, 1 was bsb with -2ld banner, all had master of sorcery
3 units horrors (not sure on the numbers but i think quite big)

and some random fleshounds/flamers i think

anyone smells french cheese? :D

mistformsquirrel
13-11-2008, 00:07
@Oldmaster - I just realized that I mucked up the Dragon Mage >.< - he has 3 arcane items <x.x> replace those with a Seerstaff of Sapphery and a Dispel Scroll

Kahadras
13-11-2008, 00:29
Spellweaver + extra level and Wand of the Wych elm
Spellsinger + extra level and Calaingorís stave
Spellsinger + extra level and dispel scroll
Branchwraith + extra level and cluster of Radients

10 Dryads + branch nymph
10 Dryads

5 Wild riders
5 Wild riders
5 Wild riders

Treeman
Treeman

= 1997

Pretty nasty. Can close up the magic phase with rerollable dispel dice and a dispel scroll on hand for emergencies. Going forward just use the old tree singing spam to block your opponants movement and get your forest spirits into charge range.

Kahadras

Nekrodamus
13-11-2008, 15:53
My list from the last weekend (ger. GT finale):

Lector, Altar, Meteoric Iron, Speculum, Sword of Power
Lvl. 2, Powerstone, Rod of Power
2x Lvl. 2 Powerstone, Dispel Scroll
2x 10 Handguns
10 X-Bows
2x 5 Knights, Mus.
4x Cannon
2x Steamtank

Since I only managed to rank #10 of 16 (no. of participants is just a shame) it's proven to be not cheesy! ;) Well, perhaps it is and the outcome was only based on incompetence and lousy dicing ... By the way: The winner fielded Teclis.

Lord Dan
13-11-2008, 16:15
What did the loser field?

Nekrodamus
13-11-2008, 16:30
Finale GT 2008 Germany (http://games-workshop.de/home/veranstaltungen/gt/2008/wh-finale/index.shtm) (I guess all armies are easy to identify.) The least succesfull player fielded Lizzies with Carnosaur (can't remember more).

Deacon Bane
13-11-2008, 17:52
I assume that first army is High Elves, my Germen is lacking. Anyone know what list was used?

fnc6884
13-11-2008, 18:17
Well, How about this list:

EMPIRE
1 Archlector on war alter w/ +1 armour, van whatever switcherroo, greatweapon

lvl2 wizard w/rod of power, mounted barded
lvl2 wizard w/dispel scrolls, mounted barded

captain on pegasus w/ full plate, lance, enchanted shield, pistol, doomfire ring

core:

7 x knights
7 x knights

10 handgunners

10 handgunners

special:

2 great cannons
1 morter
8 x pistoliers w/mus

rare:

2 steamtanks


The steamtanks and arch lector would act as a anvil (staying force as they are unbreakable) while the knights swing in the flanks to finish off the enemies troops.

The wizards, plus, archlecher, plus waralter, plus doomfire ring would try to control the magic phase.

The captain, pistoliers, handgunners, and artillery would keep the fast enemy stuff in check.

I've played this list (minus one steam tank) and it DESTROYS!!!.....not very tactically fun though.

Lord Dan
14-11-2008, 05:26
Finale GT 2008 Germany (http://games-workshop.de/home/veranstaltungen/gt/2008/wh-finale/index.shtm) (I guess all armies are easy to identify.) The least succesfull player fielded Lizzies with Carnosaur (can't remember more).
Is the Vampire player who placed 15th related to you, or is Hofmann a common name in Germany?

Do you recall what the WE player who placed 4th ran? It seems so out of place amongst the Vampires and Daemons...

Nekrodamus
14-11-2008, 07:37
I assume that first army is High Elves, my Germen is lacking. Anyone know what list was used?

With the Elves we have a word by word translation, just check the first letter (H,W,D) and you'll have ist.

Allthough I played against him (draw), I can't remember the list in details. I'm sure about: Teclis, Lvl2, 2x DPs, small SM with B.o.Sorcery, 3 RBTs, Eagle

I'll send him a mail and come back afterwards.



Is the Vampire player who placed 15th related to you, or is Hofmann a common name in Germany?

Yes for both: Hofmann (more often with double F) is quite common in Germany (allthough far away from the number of Smiths and Millers) and he's my youngest son.



Do you recall what the WE player who placed 4th ran? It seems so out of place amongst the Vampires and Daemons...

No (played against the other one) but I'll try to contact him too.

oCoYoRoAoKo
14-11-2008, 09:36
Ive gotten many a cry of cheese from my daemon list (although not as powerful as it could be, people seem to have a really hard time with all the M10):

Keeper: siren, torment blade, allure, lvl4, soul hunger
Bluescribes
Masque
Tzeentch Herald: -2ld banner, disc

10 Daemonettes
10 Daemonettes
10 Daemonettes

5 Seekers
5 Seekers
5 Seekers

2 Fiends
2 Fiends

Total: 2000 points

works niceley against all of those Kairos lists when i get within 20" of him and force it to fly into combat with the keeper and hopefully over-running into some nice squishy horrors.

Cy.

Havock
14-11-2008, 10:57
Tough list there, but not completely cheesed out. Played against something similair, wnet up nice enough until I botched my rolls, lost combat and did the autobreak thingy with my chosen knights.
That problem, however, is solved.

Frgt/10
14-11-2008, 11:06
I was thinking about throwing this out at a 1250 tourney not too long ago:

Mannfred the acolyte w/ skullstaff

20 zombies
20 zombies
20 zombies
20 zombies
20 zombies

10 Bloodknights w/ FC

total: 1250

Walls
14-11-2008, 13:54
Weird, I always hear about Vampires being uber powerful yet only one list?

OldMaster
14-11-2008, 13:57
^ It's because Vamps don't really have specific cheesy lists I suppose. Everyone just automatically screams cheese when they play against one.

Maxing out on powerdice and characters helps, though.

Lord Dan
14-11-2008, 15:52
^ It's because Vamps don't really have specific cheesy lists I suppose.

Vampire Lord, lv. 4
Vampire, Lv. 2 BSB
Vampire, Lv. 2
Vampire, Lv. 2

10 Skeletons w/ full command
10 Skeletons w/ full command
10 Skeletons w/ full command
Corpse Cart w/ unholy loadstone
Corpse Cart w/ unholy loadstone
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves
5 Dire Wolves

4 Fell Bats
5 Black Knights
5 Black Knights

Vargulf
Vargulf

g0ddy
14-11-2008, 17:24
Throgg
14 Units of Trolls

VS.


Dark Elf Supreme Sorcereress
Sorceress
Sorceress
Sorceress

25 warriors
25 warriors
10 crossbowmen
10 crossbowmen
10 crossbowmen
10 crossbowmen
5 Harpies
5 Harpies

6 Shades
6 Shades

Bolt Thrower
Bolt Thrower
Bolt Thrower
Bolt Thrower

Then with whatever points you have left, buy more of anything that shoots.

The trolls would be better off with fewer, larger units... Think of all the Eye of the Gods rolls... Glorious.

~zilla

isidril93
14-11-2008, 20:16
:eek: 21 sets of Dragon Armour!!!

We're doomed.



you're right we're doomed...especially those who have a tzeenth daemon army:p
horror/flamers destruction list

w3rm
16-11-2008, 00:43
3x Warlock Engineers w/ each 5 Warpstone Tokens And full kit, no pistol-390
20x Clanrats w/ Ratling Gun-160
20x Clanrats w/ Ratling Gun-160
20x Clanrats w/ Warpfire Thrower-175
20x Clanrats w/ Warpfire Thrower-175
10x Jezzail-200
9x Jezzail-180
9x Jezzail-180
9x Jezzail-180
2x Warplightning Cannons-200
Total- 2000

Skaven Gunline!

matty_inda_ouse
21-11-2008, 18:27
dudes, i play chaos deamons lets just leave it at that:D

matt

Lord Dan
21-11-2008, 21:29
dudes, i play chaos deamons lets just leave it at that:D

matt

Who knows, you could have one Herald and a single unit of 100 bloodletters.

studderigdave
21-11-2008, 21:39
pffft, you havent seen cheesy til you played against this:

Vampire Lord
General, Lvl 3, Sword of Might, Bloody Hauberk, Helm of Commandment, Dark Acolyte, Infinite Hatred, Forbidden Lore, Hellsteeed.

Vampire
Wristbands of Black Gold, Cursed Book, Avatar of Death (GW), Flying Horror

Necromancer scrolls x2 vanhels and invocation

Wight King, BSB (banner fo the dead legion) GW

Corpse Cart w/ lodestone

10 crypt ghouls, Ghast
20 skellies, full command, spears, warbanner
25 zombies, muso and standard

5 fellbats
18 grave guard, full command, banner of the barrows, HW/SH

Vargulf
3 wraiths 1 banshee

surely the nastiest VC army at 2250! :)

BigbyWolf
21-11-2008, 22:54
pffft, you havent seen cheesy til you played against this:

Vampire Lord
General, Lvl 3, Sword of Might, Bloody Hauberk, Helm of Commandment, Dark Acolyte, Infinite Hatred, Forbidden Lore, Hellsteeed.

Vampire
Wristbands of Black Gold, Cursed Book, Avatar of Death (GW), Flying Horror

Necromancer scrolls x2 vanhels and invocation

Wight King, BSB (banner fo the dead legion) GW

Corpse Cart w/ lodestone

10 crypt ghouls, Ghast
20 skellies, full command, spears, warbanner
25 zombies, muso and standard

5 fellbats
18 grave guard, full command, banner of the barrows, HW/SH

Vargulf
3 wraiths 1 banshee

surely the nastiest VC army at 2250! :)

I was just wondering how this army works to make it a very nasty army?

Orge_ladd
21-11-2008, 23:33
gnoblar army list from white dwarf in england.. cheesy.... or is it funny.. its got to be oth with scrap launchers i think being core units! followin the same u must have 1 gnoblr unit per launcher.

Lord Dan
22-11-2008, 03:24
pffft, you havent seen cheesy til you played against this:

Vampire Lord
General, Lvl 3, Sword of Might, Bloody Hauberk, Helm of Commandment, Dark Acolyte, Infinite Hatred, Forbidden Lore, Hellsteeed.

Vampire
Wristbands of Black Gold, Cursed Book, Avatar of Death (GW), Flying Horror

Necromancer scrolls x2 vanhels and invocation

Wight King, BSB (banner fo the dead legion) GW

Corpse Cart w/ lodestone

10 crypt ghouls, Ghast
20 skellies, full command, spears, warbanner
25 zombies, muso and standard

5 fellbats
18 grave guard, full command, banner of the barrows, HW/SH

Vargulf
3 wraiths 1 banshee

surely the nastiest VC army at 2250! :)

I hate to disagree with anyone from eastern PA (represent :cool:), but that list actually looks rather balanced?

Tauren
22-11-2008, 03:33
Was gonna say... I see no wight king with drakenhoof banner in a graveguard unit o doom...

shredshredxx
22-11-2008, 04:03
my friend runs a daemons of slaanesh list,

keeper of secrets w/ level 4, etherblade, soul hunger, allure of slaanesh
herald w/ level 1, bsb,banner of +d3 cr
herald w/ level 1, many armed cluster**** of 6 attacks on a hero /:
herald w/ level 1, many armed

25 daemonettes
25 daemonettes
10 daemonettes

5 seekers

2 fiends

it's pretty gnar.

wizuriel
22-11-2008, 04:55
2k chaos dwarfs. have fun trying to maneuver :D
lvl 4 sorcerer lord + black gem of gnar + power stone = 285
lvl 2 sorc + dispel = 125
lvl 2 sorc + dispel = 125
bull centaur hero + great weapon + armour of gaz + gauntlets = 154

17 blunderbuss Warriors = 204
17 blunderbuss Warriors = 204
17 blunderbuss Warriors = 204
10 wolf riders + larm/shield + musician = 140
10 hobgoblins = 20
10 hobgoblins = 20
10 hobgoblins = 20
15 hobgoblins = 30

8 bolt throwers = 240

2 earthshackers = 220


1991

studderigdave
22-11-2008, 05:22
I hate to disagree with anyone from eastern PA (represent :cool:), but that list actually looks rather balanced?

I am glad you caught that Lord Dan! I was waiting for someone to catch my balanced VC list. I usually see some pretty crazy VC army lists floating around, and i just wanted to show that some people do play with a balanced VC army. my meager 8 PD at 2250 and all...

Frgt/10
22-11-2008, 08:02
This is to be used in an upcoming 3k game against a Dark Elf army that contains 30 cold one knights, no lords and only one lvl 2 sorceress:

Count Mannfred w/ barded steed, skullstaff, book of arkhan 595
Vampire Lord w/ extra lvl, walachs bloody hauberk, helm of commandment, black periapt, master of the black arts, dark acolyte, lord of the dead 440
Vampire w/ flayed hauberk, dark acolyte, lord of the dead 170
Wight King w/ BSB, Drakenhoff banner, barded steed, great weapon 255
Necromancer w/ Invocation, Danse, Scroll, corpse cart, unholy loadstone 195

26 zombies w/ command 116
15 skeletons w/ spears, command, banner of the dead legion 180
15 skeletons w/ spears, command 155
10 crypt ghouls w/ ghast 88
5 wolves 40
5 wolves 40

15 grave guard w/ great weapons, command, banner of the barrows 270
8 black knights w/ barding, command, standard of everlasting death 279

varghulf 175

total: 2998

wight king goes with grave guard
17 power dice means that those skeletons should be at 25-30 inside turn one.
normally i don't go uber character cheese but i thought id give it ago against cold one cheese

Muad'Dib
22-11-2008, 08:26
1200 HE

Dragon Mage, level 2, Silver Wand (+1 spell), Ring of Fury (level 3 bound spell, 2d6 S4 hits)
Mage, level 2, Jewel of the Dusk (+1 PD), Scroll
12 Archers
12 Swordmasters, full command, Banner of Sorcery (+d3 PD)
2xRBT

This list has between 8-10 PDs, the Dragon Mage can potentially generate 3 more from his spellcasts, and has a powerful bound spell.
It won't do well against gunlines, but all other armies will struggle greatly.

invinciblebug
22-11-2008, 13:07
1200 HE

Dragon Mage, level 2, Silver Wand (+1 spell), Ring of Fury (level 3 bound spell, 2d6 S4 hits)
Mage, level 2, Jewel of the Dusk (+1 PD), Scroll
12 Archers
12 Swordmasters, full command, Banner of Sorcery (+d3 PD)
2xRBT

This list has between 8-10 PDs, the Dragon Mage can potentially generate 3 more from his spellcasts, and has a powerful bound spell.
It won't do well against gunlines, but all other armies will struggle greatly.

It doesnt have to be a gunline, a bit of shooting and this army is dead. The swords masters will be shoot to death in no time, the archers wont do anything on their own, and the lone mage on foot wont last long either. The only thing that could e a problem is the dragon, tough a cannonball or a decent combat unit charging will see to that.

Muad'Dib
22-11-2008, 14:03
It doesnt have to be a gunline, a bit of shooting and this army is dead.
But how much shooting is 'a bit of shooting' in a 1200 army ? A cannon and few 10-men units won't be enough to outshoot this. Also, the Mage can take Seerstaff, instead of Jewel, with Lore of Life to get master of stone/woods versus any gunlines.
Also don't see how do you plan to charge the Dragon with a combat unit.

sniperjolly
22-11-2008, 17:00
But how much shooting is 'a bit of shooting' in a 1200 army ?


2 cannons and a steam tank :angel:

Lupinbell
22-11-2008, 20:13
Daemon Prince with ASF, Reroll to hit and reroll to wound. Not really really cheesy but pretty nasty in a friendly game.

w3rm
22-11-2008, 21:04
1k Empire
1x captain- 152
-Pegasus
-Armour of Iron
-Hammer of Judgement
-Shield
10x handgunners-80
10x handgunners-80
11x handgunners-80
3x Cannons- 300
SteamTank-300
total- 1000
if anyone says this isnt cheese i want thier name and rank!

Lupinbell
22-11-2008, 21:10
If I saw that on the other side of the table, I'd cry then pack the regenerating plaugebearers into some cover for 6 turns.

goodz
23-11-2008, 06:05
lol I would definitally take 3 wizards, with lore of heavens and leave my hole army in a forest for the whole game if I saw that empire army across from me

altho I beat very handily lastnight

2x 14 thunderers
1x organ gun
2x bolt throwers
2x cannons

2 blocks of warrios forget how large i think 15 or something

was 1250 points :(

we scatterd scenery and it worked wonders for me

w3rm
23-11-2008, 13:11
Bruiser(No upgrades)

20 bulls
20 bulls
3 maneaters
3 maneaters

DIEDIEDIE!!!!

Disciple of Caliban
23-11-2008, 16:11
^^ That ones illegal, only 2 core choices. You'd have to add another 3 bulls. Would be a laugh to field though

Wolfmother
23-11-2008, 19:29
skaven warlord heavey armour hand wep shield

2x warp lightning cannons

50 clanrats w/ command

50 clanrats w/ command

50 clanrats w/ command

30 slaves

30 slaves

30 slaves

10 jezzails

10 jezzails

warlock engineer wpa wec wb

warlock engineer wpa wec wb

warlock engineer wpa wec wb scroll

:D

Wolfmother
23-11-2008, 19:44
thats 2k btw and instead of a scroll on the last warlock i should have put eye of the horned rat

Cognitave
30-11-2008, 21:41
Night goblin great shaman
night goblin shaman
NIght goblin shaman
night goblin bsb

8 spear chukkas

2 giants
5 spider riders
5 spider riders
26 night goblin archers
26 night goblin archers
35 night goblin spearmen
all with 3 fanatics



Haha, that list placed 2nd at the SoCal Slaughter. 4 units of chuckas, a bunch of spider riders and night gobs with fanatics.

I played against it, and I'll admit it's total cheese...

Now when I want to lose friends I use:

Vampire Lord
Sword of +1s
Red Fury
4+ Ward, 2+ armor

Wight King
BSB with Banner of Regeneration

All in a unit of Grave Guard.
Then have mannfred the acolyte and my other casters spamming raise undead and Invocation.

Arisen
01-12-2008, 13:30
Cant remember exactly but DoC, it was basically 3 units of plaguebearers and literally EVERYTHING else was some sort of maxxed (upped to lvl 4 or whatever their max is) tzeentchi sorcerer unit using lore of metal agains armoured stuff and death against stuff like skaven. they literally just made a box in the corner with spellcasters in the middle and let everyone break themselves against them... Was NOT fun...

EDIT: Was pretty much:


Lords & Heroes:

ARMY GENERAL
Herald of Tzeentch - 115
Disc of Tzeentch - 20
Master of Sorcery - 30
TOTAL - 165

Herald of Tzeentch - 115
Disc of Tzeentch - 20
Master of Sorcery - 30
TOTAL - 165

Herald of Tzeentch - 115
Disc of Tzeentch - 20
Master of Sorcery - 30
TOTAL - 165

Herald of Nurgle - 115
Staff of Nurgle - 50
TOTAL - 165
*Goes with smaller Plaguebearer unit*

The Masque - 90

Core:

29 Plaguebearers - 348
Musician - 6
Standard Bearer - 12
Standard of Seeping Decay - 25
TOTAL - 403

20 Plaguebearers - 240
Musician - 6
Standard Bearer - 12
Standard of Seeping Decay
TOTAL - 283
*Non-BSB Herald of Nurgle goes here*


20 Plaguebearers - 240
Musician - 6
Standard Bearer - 12
Standard of Seeping Decay
TOTAL - 283

Rare:

6 Flamers - 210
Pyrocaster - 15
TOTAL - 225

Grunge
01-12-2008, 20:13
Cheese = WE on pitched battles. For some reason they're gone :)