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stonehorse
07-12-2008, 22:29
I've been thinking of trying out an all infantry based Dark Elf force,

Dread Lord, Soulrender, Pendent of Khaeleth, Armour of Servitude. Total 225pts.

Master, Battle Standard Bearer, Hydra Banner, Heavy Armour, Halberd. Total 188pts.

Sorceress, Extra Level, 2 Dispel Scrolls. Total 185pts.

10 Repeater Crossbowelves. Total 100pts.

10 Repeater Crossbowelves. Total 100pts.

19 Dark Elf Warriors, Shields, Full Command. Total 148pts.

20 Witch Elves, Full Command, Rune of Khaine, Banner of Murder. Total 275pts.

20 Executioners, Full Command, War Banner. Total 295pts.

18 Black Guard, Full Command, Standard of Har Greaf. Total 304

War Hydra. Total 175pts.

Grand Total 1,995pts.

It'll feel strange having so many bodies in a Dark Elf force, I'm likeing the idea that I'll have a nice static combat result in my units... something which I haven't had in Warhammer for a very long time, due to playing Dark Riders heavy armies.

The Dread Lord and the Master go with the Black Guard, where the Hydra banner and the Standard of Har Greaf will really shine. I'd have liked to include a character with either the Executioners or/Witch elves, but the Khainite rule makes it hard to include a 'tough' character.

Any thoughts?

PARTYCHICORITA
07-12-2008, 23:00
Master, Battle Standard Bearer, Hydra Banner, Heavy Armour, Halberd. Total 188pts.
This guy is naked, even with ASF he's very vulnerable. Put him in a horse and give him a shield and SDC.

20 Witch Elves, Full Command, Rune of Khaine, Banner of Murder. Total 275pts.
Sadly unsuported this is a very bad unit, extremely vulnerable to charges. Needs either and assasin or a BSB hag

20 Executioners, Full Command, War Banner. Total 295pts.
Same is very true for this unit. In order to be worth a dam executioners need a hag BSB and a cauldron, other wise they are expensive and almost worthless.



You don't have any harpies (best unit in the book IMO) or riders so you are begging to get outmanouvered by the enemy. Also the BG is just to much with 2 characters in it, they are gonna get baited while the rest of the army gets butchered. From my experience i may add the best size for DE blocks of nonewarrior units is 18 in 6x3 with 21 in 7x3 beeing a little over the top.
A DE list themed on infantry can be done, but it needs support units which is what the DE are all about.

stonehorse
07-12-2008, 23:38
Some good points here,

How's this:

1st List.

Dread Lord, Soulrender, Pendent of Khaeleth, Armour of Servitude. Total 225pts.

Death Hag, Battle Standard, Dread Banner. Total 155pts.

Sorceress, 2 Dispel Scrolls. Total 150pts.

5 Dark Riders, Repeater Crossbows. Total 110pts.

5 Dark Riders, Repeater Crossbows. Total 110pts.

18 Dark Elf Warriors, Shields, Full Command. Total 141pts.

18 Witch Elves, Full Command, Rune of Khaine, Banner of Murder. Total 255pts.

8 Shades. Total 128pts.

17 Executioners, Full Command, War Banner. Total 259pts.

17 Black Guard, Full Command, Standard of Har Greaf. Total 291

War Hydra. Total 175pts.

Grand Total 1,999pts.

The shades, and Dark Riders will be used for what they do best and to annoy the enemy... or I could use this list.

2nd list.

Dread Lord, Soulrender, Pendent of Khaeleth, Armour of Servitude. Total 225pts.

Death Hag, Battle Standard, Dread Banner. Total 155pts.

Sorceress, 2 Dispel Scrolls. Total 150pts.

5 Dark Riders, Repeater Crossbows. Total 110pts.

5 Dark Riders, Repeater Crossbows. Total 110pts.

5 Harpies. Total 55pts.

17 Dark Elf Warriors, Shields, Full Command. Total 134pts.

18 Witch Elves, Full Command, Rune of Khaine, Banner of Murder. Total 255pts.

5 Shades. Total 80pts.

17 Executioners, Full Command, War Banner. Total 259pts.

17 Black Guard, Full Command, Standard of Har Greaf. Total 291

War Hydra. Total 175pts.

Grand Total 1,999pts.

Or I could buy a secod War Hydra and use them as support.

3rd list.

Dread Lord, Soulrender, Pendent of Khaeleth, Armour of Servitude. Total 225pts.

Death Hag, Battle Standard, Cry of War, Dread Banner. Total 165pts.

Sorceress, 2 Dispel Scrolls. Total 150pts.

10 Repeater Crossbowelves. Total 100pts.

10 Repeater Crossbowelves. Total 100pts.

12 Dark Elf Warriors, Shields, Full Command. Total 99pts.

18 Witch Elves, Full Command, Rune of Khaine, Banner of Murder. Total 255pts.

17 Executioners, Full Command, War Banner. Total 259pts.

17 Black Guard, Full Command, Standard of Har Greaf. Total 291pts.

War Hydra. Total 175pts.

War Hydra. Total 175pts.

Grand Total 1,994pts.

PARTYCHICORITA
08-12-2008, 05:31
I like the first 2 lists best. Here is some advice:

Put banner of Hag Graef on the BSB Hag and put her either with the executioners (give her also touch of death in that case) or the WE (give her rune of khaine then)

The khainaite unit that doesn't get hag should get an assasin to protect them in case of charges. Another option would be (if you don't find the points for the assasin) block of 18 models BG+lord, block of 18 models WE+hag, 2 blocks of 10 models executioners with champions.

Now if the banner of hag graef goes to the bsb then the BG needs some protection. Here is where the lord comes in: dagger of hotek+potion of strenght and pendant of Khaeleth gives you 5 ASF attacks that be S7 once per game+good defense. On following turns of combat I6 from the BG should be enough.